Comments on: Buzz: Jets Interest Cooling on Plex?

By: Harvlis

Harvlis — Tue, 16 Jun 2009 19:39:26 +0000

I have gone back and forth on this. On one hand, I hate players that don’t practice with the rest of the team and I hate players that end up on the front pages of newspapers, rather than the back pages. On the other hand, I have watched Plax for years and he is a major force on the football field. Eli Manning is a completely different QB, without Plax. The Giants are a different team, without him. If we could get him for a reasonable price, I would jump all over it. He immediately gives our QB’s a serious target. He instantly takes our WR group from questionable to formidable.

As for the idea that, if he comes to the Jets, he will be getting even with the Giants — that is garbage. He was playing in NY. Now, he could continue playing in NY without changing his life around. Obviously, it makes some sense for him. I don’t feel that he is a thug or a criminal. Does he make some bad decisions — you bet but, everybody deserves a second chance. Tanny, sign this guy, before he goes to Miami. He would look great in kelly green. Just like the jolly green ex–Giant.

By: GlockNSoul

GlockNSoul — Tue, 16 Jun 2009 17:05:34 +0000

Let’s face it, as good as Plax is – at best, you’re renting him for one year. And he’s a tough guy to root for – hell, he was late for his court appearance this week. He ain’t changin’.

By: vinnywasthebest

vinnywasthebest — Tue, 16 Jun 2009 16:51:58 +0000

I agree that we can wait until some cuts are made in various camps, but why take a chance that NO ONE GOOD will be cut? plus, if we can get a WR into camp, we can start building chemistry between the WR and new QB be it either Clemens or Sanchez

By: SackDance99

SackDance99 — Tue, 16 Jun 2009 15:50:26 +0000

I generally agree with the idea that it’s best to build for the future through the draft, but WR and QB are positions where, if you can get a legitimate NFL starter, you do it. Good prospects at QB and WR are usually 1st rounders and usually fail. That’s a double waste of a high pick and money. Free agent money to acquire a WR usually isn’t that much more (and is often much less) than what it would take to sign a vet. Plus, there are plenty of teams that improved themselves through acquiring veteran WRs or pass-catching TEs within 2 years or sooner, like the Pats, Eagles (never would’ve made the SB w/out TO), Bucs (vets McCardell and Johnson were the starters on the SB winner), Ravens (Q. Ismail and Shannon Sharpe, who was a TE in name only and who was acquired their SB winning year). For other examples, Chris Chambers has helped the Chargers raise their passing game to a whole new level. The reason the Pats WR corps is all vets/FA signings is because getting a vet takes a lot of guesswork out of the equation.

As for FA signings and Super Bowls, I’m guessing that the comments were limited to WR because the Steelers signed Justin Hartwig last season to be the center and anchor of thier OL, which still wasn’t all that good, but would’ve been much worse without Hartwig and, for that matter, Mewelde Moore ended up being very important and he, too, was signed before last season.

By: JustAGreenGuy

JustAGreenGuy — Tue, 16 Jun 2009 15:07:19 +0000

Thanks I just wanted to play GM. I had some of the same people on my list. I didn’t know Woody’s contract details. At least 4 of the 7 people you mentioned wont be on the team next year in my opinion.

By: Bent

Bent — Tue, 16 Jun 2009 15:02:20 +0000

Don’t forget the other option – do nothing.

JAGG – Here’s the list (and I am not saying they should replace all five, just that they have some flexibility to do so – or restructure – in 12 months time).

Thomas Jones (cap savings $5.9m)
Damien Woody (cap savings $4.1m)
Bryan Thomas (cap savings $2.8m)
Shaun Ellis (cap savings $3.6m)
Sione Pouha (cap savings $1.1m)
Total potential savings – $17.5m

Strickland is another guy that they could save over a million on if he doesn’t work out and they could abort the Lito deal before his roster bonus becomes due next year to save a huge chunk.

By: Harlan Lachman

Harlan Lachman — Tue, 16 Jun 2009 15:01:18 +0000

Vinnie wtb and others,

In addition to the players noted above, there are the players that none of us know who will be available later this summer.

Each year, a team gets an injury at one position and trades from strength to fix it. We could trade a Leon or TJ and get a WR in a similar contract situation, a deal benefitting both teams.

Each year a team finds cheaper younger players who perform as well or better as expensive aging vets who they let go.

Settling now will preclude our having the roster spot and cash to benefit from the marketplace.

Since we are unlikely to win it all this year anyway, I say, rather than tying up millions, a roster spot and the players we trade in any of these guys, we hold onto our hand and see what cards hit the table.

harlan

By: vinnywasthebest

vinnywasthebest — Tue, 16 Jun 2009 13:46:52 +0000

Ugh, look at the choices:

Plax- Deadbeat teammate, late for his own court appearance where HE WAS GETTING AN ADJOURNMENT!!! shoots himself in the ass, moaps around training camps.

Marshall- Beats girlfriends on a consistent basis, cuts his hands (his $ makers!) fooling around, and instigated fights at clubs (PERFECT for NYC. He’d get his ass shot on the L.E.S. maybe by Plax?)

Braylon Edwards/Anq Boldin- would take a HUGE trade where we give up good player/picks for guys who have drops(Edwards) or hip issues (Boldin)

So why not Matt Jones? hes cheap, and got caught doing something stupid but WAY less stupid than Plax or Marshall because he was snorting the coke into HIS OWN NOSE and not beating someone else or risking others’ lives by carrying a loaded weapon into a public place.

By: JustAGreenGuy

JustAGreenGuy — Tue, 16 Jun 2009 13:41:13 +0000

Hey bent, can I get a list of those 5 guys you consider they can dump for the money next year?

By: Vincent

Vincent — Tue, 16 Jun 2009 12:47:15 +0000

I think the team has to give the first chance to the players it drafts. Chansi Stuckie had 32 catches, 300 yards and 3 td’s in his first season. Brad Smith is going to make strides in what will be his 3rd full season of actual playing time at WR. David Clowney will be explosive, but he needs the opportunity. The spot vacated by Lavernues Coles should just go to Marcus Henry, and the other receivers should be pushed up the depth chart. Why trade draft picks before you even give 3 guys the chance to see what they can do come August even?