I hear you, but I have another bone to pick: Gonzo is not and was not ever a good blocker. KC had a great OL and Tony Richardson (as he is now) was a great blocking FB. Another thing that I keep saying about Keller, as long as the Jets OL is strong and T-Rich is around, who cares if Keller can block? I want him going out for passes and drawing defenders to him. Let Faneca pull and T-Rich lead block with Keller occupying an LB in the flat…tough to play 8-men in the box if those guys do their jobs because you’ll overwhelm the D at the point of attack.

1, i’m not comparing them player for player. You seem to keep doing that. So yeah, Holms was great, but that’s not my point. Im not knocking the Jets players. I’m looking to fill a specific position. Morton was great with the Lions and for whatever reason the Cheifs made it work. And Kennison wasn’t Randy Moss but he played his role and they made it work. Gonzo was a very good, productive TE, But just that, a good receiving TE. He could block to boot.

Understand, when I’m looking at these Jets players, i’m not looking to put them down. i’m saying that I know who can do what. And they can’t do what needs to be done. They’re good in their own right. If the Jets want to win a SB next season, they get that last guy.

No, Johnnie Morton was a colossal failure with KC. His best years were with the Lions, when Herman Moore was one of the NFL’s best WRs. And, are you kidding me with stone hands Kennison? You’re calling them GREAT? Gonzo led the Chiefs in receiving 3 out of the 5 Vermeil seasons and, especially, the 2003 season, which I refer to above. KC’s RBs (Holmes, T-Rich, Blaylock) almost had as many receptions as Morton and Kennison. Kennison was okay (he never made a Pro Bowl during his 13-year career), but no better than Cotch, and Morton was a failure (never cracked 800 yards in his 3 seasons with KC) and the rest of the Chiefs WRs were middling.

Priest Holmes was great and much better than any single RB that the Jets have; however, TJ, Leon and Greene collectively could match his production. Let’s get back to my central point, a stud WR is not necessary for a potent offense. A strong running game and great pass-catching TE can make up for lack of star quality at WR.

But, I needed a laugh. Kennison and Morton “great” as Chiefs? That’s comedy. You were just pulling my leg, right?

Ramble, maybe not great yet, you’re right. But talented and the sky is the limit.

Bent, that’s all I was saying. I never said they were the second coming of the ‘99 Rams. I know Bent, that I don’t have to explain to you the abilities of Roy Williams. Even if he did have a bad year with the dysfunctional Cowboys. Even if he continues to have bad years with the dysfunctional Cowboys. He’s a great WR and cements some things for the other receivers, who are also good, to work around.

Also I would say that they have an advantage in that their best WR is marquee NFL commodity, #1split end receiver and ours is a complimentary WR. And the entire NFL knows that.

Sack,

Ooooh, Sack, you’re actually right about the Cheifs. THey Had Eddie Kennison AND Jonnie Morton to go along woth Dante Hall who was a fabulous KR. And didn’t they have Preist Holmes running the ball? All that? And Dick Vermeil as head coach. Man, Tony Gonzalez was having a field day. He was eating cookies and picking his nose on the sidelines. Yeah, that was a bad example. But you still proved my point. TE gotta do what TEs do and WR gotta do what WRs do. And neither makes up for the other.

And yes Jonnie Morton and Eddie Kennison WERE both GREAT WRs, each in their own respect.

KC has never had a defense, their offence has never been anything, we are a much better team now than KC has ever been in the last 5 years, probably 10 years. If they had some other talent around Gonzalez, like maybe Cotchery, or Leon Washington, coupled with our running game things would have been different for them.

I don’t see how you are touting the Dallas WR’s, they’ve done nothing, the least of which is Austin. Roy Williams has also done nothing, I might very well take our group of WR over Dallas’. Also, our backfiels is as good as anyone in the league.

Again, I’ll say the same thing…when you have Cotchery/Keller and Leon on the field at the same time, that is a lot for any defense to handle. If one of our other WR steps up, and I believe Stuckey or Smith can do it, we will have a prertty good group of skill position players, who should make things a lot more interesting than people are giving them credit for.