Comments on: TJB Hall of Fame: The Class of 2009 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/06/27/tjb-hall-of-fame-the-class-of-2009/ Ranting and Raving about the Gang Green Sun, 12 Feb 2012 08:20:29 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Rex http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/06/27/tjb-hall-of-fame-the-class-of-2009/#comment-166107 Rex Fri, 17 Jul 2009 14:15:55 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/?p=13362#comment-166107 I'm a little late posting on this one but I couldn't agree more with Sackdance about Gastineau. He was an amazing football player and definitely the best Jets Defensive player of all time. He's had some hardships in his life but you can't take away what he did on the football field. He's the 2nd biggest Jets name ever, by far, after Joe Willie of course. I agree, retire Gastineau's #99! He accomplished way more than Klecko, I don't understand the recent popularity with Klecko. I mean, he was a great player but why all of the sudden is every Jet fan pushing for his HOF enshrinment now, he retired over 20 years ago??? I’m a little late posting on this one but I couldn’t agree more with Sackdance about Gastineau. He was an amazing football player and definitely the best Jets Defensive player of all time. He’s had some hardships in his life but you can’t take away what he did on the football field. He’s the 2nd biggest Jets name ever, by far, after Joe Willie of course. I agree, retire Gastineau’s #99! He accomplished way more than Klecko, I don’t understand the recent popularity with Klecko. I mean, he was a great player but why all of the sudden is every Jet fan pushing for his HOF enshrinment now, he retired over 20 years ago???

]]> By: sjfalcon2001 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/06/27/tjb-hall-of-fame-the-class-of-2009/#comment-164172 sjfalcon2001 Mon, 29 Jun 2009 22:45:36 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/?p=13362#comment-164172 My point was just that statistics weren't the only reason a player makes it into the HOF, because some people here throw out players like Byrd or Chrebet based solely on statistics, but that's not how our HOF is designed. Off field qualities matter too. My point was just that statistics weren’t the only reason a player makes it into the HOF, because some people here throw out players like Byrd or Chrebet based solely on statistics, but that’s not how our HOF is designed. Off field qualities matter too.

]]> By: The Iron Marshal http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/06/27/tjb-hall-of-fame-the-class-of-2009/#comment-164151 The Iron Marshal Mon, 29 Jun 2009 20:39:33 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/?p=13362#comment-164151 SackDance, around a year ago, I was browsing around on youtube when, sunnavagun, I pulled up some vids on Gastineau taken by a guy who met him and invited him over to his house for a holiday dinner. It was basically a home movie, save for the extra juice provided by the guys in the family who knew football and knew who Mark was. What impressed so much about Mark was how humble he was (he was there with his wife) and how much fun he was having. At first impression, he was a little shy, but then just warmed up to how well he was received by his hosts. There was this one cut, where one of the hosts brothers(in-law, and in his cups, too, by that point...) gets into a three point stance and Mark gets on three also, then quick as a flash, blew by the guy with a cat-like move and almost zen-like tap of the hand on his outboard shoulder to nudge him out the way. Absent the elemental force, it was just like watching him in the old days going against the NFL's best tackles... and beating them, over and over again. He had a great laugh at that one, everyone did... and it looked like whatever demons he may have had in the past were exactly there, in his past, defeated and put away. You know what I mean? Just a good flow of a good man with the blessings of health and family, having a good time with a bunch of fans who really appreciated his being there with them and ruckusing it for the old days. The man seems at peace, and being as how I bleed green'n'white, that makes me happy for him. T I M SackDance,

around a year ago, I was browsing around on youtube when, sunnavagun, I pulled up some vids on Gastineau taken by a guy who met him and invited him over to his house for a holiday dinner. It was basically a home movie, save for the extra juice provided by the guys in the family who knew football and knew who Mark was.

What impressed so much about Mark was how humble he was (he was there with his wife) and how much fun he was having. At first impression, he was a little shy, but then just warmed up to how well he was received by his hosts. There was this one cut, where one of the hosts brothers(in-law, and in his cups, too, by that point…) gets into a three point stance and Mark gets on three also, then quick as a flash, blew by the guy with a cat-like move and almost zen-like tap of the hand on his outboard shoulder to nudge him out the way. Absent the elemental force, it was just like watching him in the old days going against the NFL’s best tackles… and beating them, over and over again.

He had a great laugh at that one, everyone did… and it looked like whatever demons he may have had in the past were exactly there, in his past, defeated and put away. You know what I mean? Just a good flow of a good man with the blessings of health and family, having a good time with a bunch of fans who really appreciated his being there with them and ruckusing it for the old days. The man seems at peace, and being as how I bleed green’n'white, that makes me happy for him.

T I M

]]> By: SackDance99 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/06/27/tjb-hall-of-fame-the-class-of-2009/#comment-164127 SackDance99 Mon, 29 Jun 2009 15:53:24 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/?p=13362#comment-164127 In 10 years, Gastineau played in 137 games; in 11 years, Klecko played in 140. It was actually Klecko who was injured more than Gastineau, who played hurt as much as physically possible and never missed a playoff game. As for "flash" does that explain his 4 first team All Pro selections? That's football writers making the choice, not like the popularity contest of the Pro Bowl. Philbin deserves his own inclusion in the TJB HOF, but no need to take a dig at Gastineau, who had 107 sacks in 107 game starts...a phenomenal record. In 10 years, Gastineau played in 137 games; in 11 years, Klecko played in 140. It was actually Klecko who was injured more than Gastineau, who played hurt as much as physically possible and never missed a playoff game. As for “flash” does that explain his 4 first team All Pro selections? That’s football writers making the choice, not like the popularity contest of the Pro Bowl. Philbin deserves his own inclusion in the TJB HOF, but no need to take a dig at Gastineau, who had 107 sacks in 107 game starts…a phenomenal record.

]]> By: PoconoJoe http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/06/27/tjb-hall-of-fame-the-class-of-2009/#comment-164123 PoconoJoe Mon, 29 Jun 2009 14:32:34 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/?p=13362#comment-164123 Matt Snell and Emerson Boozer. Their career rushing totals don't look as good as Curtis Martin or Freeman McNeil but that was because they played in an era when there were fewer games and the halfback and fullback BOTH ran with the ball rather than just one being a runner and the other a blocker. Also Bruce Harper who was the Leon Washington of his time except he was a more important pass receiver. Dave Herman and John Scmitt as O Lineman. Gerry Philbin as a D Lineman. (Gastineau was mostly flash and didn't have half the heart of Joe Klecko who played longer and played hurt.) Jim Turner and Pat Leahy as kickers. Matt Snell and Emerson Boozer. Their career rushing totals don’t look as good as Curtis Martin or Freeman McNeil but that was because they played in an era when there were fewer games and the halfback and fullback BOTH ran with the ball rather than just one being a runner and the other a blocker.

Also Bruce Harper who was the Leon Washington of his time except he was a more important pass receiver.

Dave Herman and John Scmitt as O Lineman.

Gerry Philbin as a D Lineman. (Gastineau was mostly flash and didn’t have half the heart of Joe Klecko who played longer and played hurt.)

Jim Turner and Pat Leahy as kickers.

]]> By: Bent http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/06/27/tjb-hall-of-fame-the-class-of-2009/#comment-164108 Bent Mon, 29 Jun 2009 10:18:36 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/?p=13362#comment-164108 "My understanding (and correct me if I’m wrong Bassett & Bent) was that the TJB HOF was created to enshrine those players that likely wouldn’t get attention elsewhere to truly represent players TJB readers look to for inspiration whether by play OR by off field excellence. That is the reason Namath and Maynard were not inducted first if I remember correctly." Yes, that's true. Obviously we want to recognize the best players in team history too. If you want to understand the reasons for any of the choices, all you have to do is read the tribute. Thanks for all the suggestions everyone. I am looking forward to June 2010 already! “My understanding (and correct me if I’m wrong Bassett & Bent) was that the TJB HOF was created to enshrine those players that likely wouldn’t get attention elsewhere to truly represent players TJB readers look to for inspiration whether by play OR by off field excellence. That is the reason Namath and Maynard were not inducted first if I remember correctly.”

Yes, that’s true. Obviously we want to recognize the best players in team history too. If you want to understand the reasons for any of the choices, all you have to do is read the tribute.

Thanks for all the suggestions everyone. I am looking forward to June 2010 already!

]]> By: kennydajet http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/06/27/tjb-hall-of-fame-the-class-of-2009/#comment-164093 kennydajet Mon, 29 Jun 2009 02:12:19 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/?p=13362#comment-164093 I know its a big long shot but I was a big Victor Green fan. Except when he got burned by Elway in afc championship game in '98. lol Votes also for Mcniel, Gastineau, Marty Lyons, Buttle, Mehl, Leahy, Aaron Glenn, Mickey Shuler and how about Fireman Ed and Marty Glickman. LOL I know its a big long shot but I was a big Victor Green fan. Except when he got burned by Elway in afc championship game in ’98. lol Votes also for Mcniel, Gastineau, Marty Lyons, Buttle, Mehl, Leahy, Aaron Glenn, Mickey Shuler and how about Fireman Ed and Marty Glickman. LOL

]]> By: The Iron Marshal http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/06/27/tjb-hall-of-fame-the-class-of-2009/#comment-164089 The Iron Marshal Mon, 29 Jun 2009 01:58:41 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/?p=13362#comment-164089 Sack-man, your posting on the great Mark Gastineau is outstanding! I saved it to word on my box. Gastineau needs to be on the TJHOF! And I'd love to see him at Jets functions, along with all the other great Jets players. T I M Sack-man, your posting on the great Mark Gastineau is outstanding! I saved it to word on my box.

Gastineau needs to be on the TJHOF! And I’d love to see him at Jets functions, along with all the other great Jets players.

T I M

]]> By: Will62 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/06/27/tjb-hall-of-fame-the-class-of-2009/#comment-164081 Will62 Mon, 29 Jun 2009 00:24:28 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/?p=13362#comment-164081 Freeman McNeil. The guy was awesome. Freeman McNeil. The guy was awesome.

]]> By: dakar http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/06/27/tjb-hall-of-fame-the-class-of-2009/#comment-164080 dakar Sun, 28 Jun 2009 23:52:48 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/?p=13362#comment-164080 if no1 mentioned KYLE CLIFTON if no1 mentioned KYLE CLIFTON

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