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		<title>By: Bent</title>
		<link>http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/07/17/the-wr-corps-of-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-166251</link>
		<dc:creator>Bent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 22:12:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s true that Smith doesn&#039;t offer the ideal size or speed that would be a good compliment to Cotchery.  I don&#039;t view Smith as a potential starter, as I would imagine the inside track is actually Stuckey.  He&#039;s no deep threat, but has outstanding short-area quickness that offers something of a contrast.  I wouldn&#039;t rule out Smith beating out Clowney for the 3rd wideout role, but my comment was more to do with the fact he shouldn&#039;t be written off altogether.  If he makes the roster, even as 4th or 5th wideout, then that&#039;s good news for the special teams.

The further up the depth chart Clowney can justifiably get, the better, because him being a deep threat will be a big deal, but I think Keller can stretch the field down the middle too.  Right now, Clowney&#039;s behind Stuck and Smith on the depth chart, so unless he can overtake them, what you&#039;re probably looking at is (hopefully a much better) Jonathan Carter or Justin McCareins 4th wideout and occasional deep threat.  Clowney isn&#039;t expected to help on specials unless they have him returning kicks.

Smith MAY have potential, but the reality is that his trade value is very low.  However, the same could be said for Ratliff, Coleman and Elam, so if Mangini would be willing to reduce the draft pick compensation by including him in a trade for Edwards, then the Jets could get a bargain.  However, do they want to pay $10m a year for a WR?  If they do, why not wait and get a better one in next year&#039;s free agent class?  That way they can evalutate whether it might be smarter to retain Smith, who as I say is an ideal 4th or 5th wideout due to his ST prowess.

If they are going to add a WR (and I&#039;m not sure they will), I think they&#039;ll get a short term fix (Jones or Plax, or even one of the others out there), so they keep their options open for next year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s true that Smith doesn&#8217;t offer the ideal size or speed that would be a good compliment to Cotchery.  I don&#8217;t view Smith as a potential starter, as I would imagine the inside track is actually Stuckey.  He&#8217;s no deep threat, but has outstanding short-area quickness that offers something of a contrast.  I wouldn&#8217;t rule out Smith beating out Clowney for the 3rd wideout role, but my comment was more to do with the fact he shouldn&#8217;t be written off altogether.  If he makes the roster, even as 4th or 5th wideout, then that&#8217;s good news for the special teams.</p>
<p>The further up the depth chart Clowney can justifiably get, the better, because him being a deep threat will be a big deal, but I think Keller can stretch the field down the middle too.  Right now, Clowney&#8217;s behind Stuck and Smith on the depth chart, so unless he can overtake them, what you&#8217;re probably looking at is (hopefully a much better) Jonathan Carter or Justin McCareins 4th wideout and occasional deep threat.  Clowney isn&#8217;t expected to help on specials unless they have him returning kicks.</p>
<p>Smith MAY have potential, but the reality is that his trade value is very low.  However, the same could be said for Ratliff, Coleman and Elam, so if Mangini would be willing to reduce the draft pick compensation by including him in a trade for Edwards, then the Jets could get a bargain.  However, do they want to pay $10m a year for a WR?  If they do, why not wait and get a better one in next year&#8217;s free agent class?  That way they can evalutate whether it might be smarter to retain Smith, who as I say is an ideal 4th or 5th wideout due to his ST prowess.</p>
<p>If they are going to add a WR (and I&#8217;m not sure they will), I think they&#8217;ll get a short term fix (Jones or Plax, or even one of the others out there), so they keep their options open for next year.</p>
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		<title>By: Dean Barbella</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dean Barbella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 17:59:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bent,

Always great knowledge, but gotta dissagree on Smith&#039;s pick (thus far).

I&#039;m not saying he&#039;s a Anthony Schlegel - BUST! I&#039;m saying he&#039;s a Special Teamer with unrealized potential.

And, potentially potential at a position that we&#039;ve already got covered. We&#039;ve got Cotchery, so why do we need Smith?

Rather, we would better benefit if David Clowney makes the team, because we don&#039;t have a deep threat. That&#039;s why I&#039;m totally hoping he wins out!

I know the guys was a huge stud in college and that he checked his ego at the door when Mangini asked his to convert to a wideout; yet, I didn&#039;t realize your point about the guy&#039;s first downs as aJet (when given his looks), only patience isn&#039;t my virtue. 

That&#039;s why ee need Plax and/or Matt Jones - Already!

How &#039;bout?

- Plax or Matt Jones - #1 Wideout
- Jerricho Cotchery - #2 Wideout
- Chanci Stuckey - Slot
- David Clowney - Deep Threat
- Wallace Wright - Special Teams/Wideout Depth
- Brad Smith - Special Teams/Wideout Depth

And, we keep one or two of our Too Tall Red Zone targets on the practice squad: Marcus Henry, Huey Whittaker and Mario Urrutia

Also, if Mangini believe&#039;s in Brad Smith&#039;s potential as much as you (and you know he does), why not include him in a trade for Braylon Edwards?

Of course, I know that he had a poor season (dropping the ball) last year, but I&#039;m confident that he can bounce back. 

Dean</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bent,</p>
<p>Always great knowledge, but gotta dissagree on Smith&#8217;s pick (thus far).</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not saying he&#8217;s a Anthony Schlegel &#8211; BUST! I&#8217;m saying he&#8217;s a Special Teamer with unrealized potential.</p>
<p>And, potentially potential at a position that we&#8217;ve already got covered. We&#8217;ve got Cotchery, so why do we need Smith?</p>
<p>Rather, we would better benefit if David Clowney makes the team, because we don&#8217;t have a deep threat. That&#8217;s why I&#8217;m totally hoping he wins out!</p>
<p>I know the guys was a huge stud in college and that he checked his ego at the door when Mangini asked his to convert to a wideout; yet, I didn&#8217;t realize your point about the guy&#8217;s first downs as aJet (when given his looks), only patience isn&#8217;t my virtue. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s why ee need Plax and/or Matt Jones &#8211; Already!</p>
<p>How &#8217;bout?</p>
<p>- Plax or Matt Jones &#8211; #1 Wideout<br />
- Jerricho Cotchery &#8211; #2 Wideout<br />
- Chanci Stuckey &#8211; Slot<br />
- David Clowney &#8211; Deep Threat<br />
- Wallace Wright &#8211; Special Teams/Wideout Depth<br />
- Brad Smith &#8211; Special Teams/Wideout Depth</p>
<p>And, we keep one or two of our Too Tall Red Zone targets on the practice squad: Marcus Henry, Huey Whittaker and Mario Urrutia</p>
<p>Also, if Mangini believe&#8217;s in Brad Smith&#8217;s potential as much as you (and you know he does), why not include him in a trade for Braylon Edwards?</p>
<p>Of course, I know that he had a poor season (dropping the ball) last year, but I&#8217;m confident that he can bounce back. </p>
<p>Dean</p>
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		<title>By: Bent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 16:56:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course, Smith could come in and do very little again this year, but he&#039;s just as likely to have a decent season.  I&#039;m not guaranteeing it or anything close, but I wouldn&#039;t rule it out either.

When Smith was drafted it was reported he&#039;d be a possession receiver with an ability to get yards after the catch and that&#039;s what he&#039;s been.  Nobody ever expected him to be a deep threat.

If you saw Smith play in college he was absolutely awesome.  They haven&#039;t even scratched the surface of what this kid can do - and he is still only 25.

Last year, with Stuckey replacing McCareins, Smith was relegated to 4th choice wide receiver and got fewer reps as a result.  The only game when he got starter reps (for just over a half) was the best of his career (against Oakland).  I see that as potential signs of growth.

He wouldn&#039;t earn nearly as much money in the CFL - the highest paid player in the league earns just $500K a year.

For a 4th round pick, he&#039;s given them excellent special teams play and is usually good for a couple of first downs a game (he only had two less than Chris Baker last year, despite hardly any reps on offense.  That&#039;s not a bad return.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course, Smith could come in and do very little again this year, but he&#8217;s just as likely to have a decent season.  I&#8217;m not guaranteeing it or anything close, but I wouldn&#8217;t rule it out either.</p>
<p>When Smith was drafted it was reported he&#8217;d be a possession receiver with an ability to get yards after the catch and that&#8217;s what he&#8217;s been.  Nobody ever expected him to be a deep threat.</p>
<p>If you saw Smith play in college he was absolutely awesome.  They haven&#8217;t even scratched the surface of what this kid can do &#8211; and he is still only 25.</p>
<p>Last year, with Stuckey replacing McCareins, Smith was relegated to 4th choice wide receiver and got fewer reps as a result.  The only game when he got starter reps (for just over a half) was the best of his career (against Oakland).  I see that as potential signs of growth.</p>
<p>He wouldn&#8217;t earn nearly as much money in the CFL &#8211; the highest paid player in the league earns just $500K a year.</p>
<p>For a 4th round pick, he&#8217;s given them excellent special teams play and is usually good for a couple of first downs a game (he only had two less than Chris Baker last year, despite hardly any reps on offense.  That&#8217;s not a bad return.</p>
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		<title>By: Dean Barbella</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dean Barbella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 16:19:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dax,

You sped through Bedford Stuy alone. You may be right I may be crazy, but Mildcat Smith is not the QB/WR we&#039;re looking for.

He&#039;s just to slow... Can&#039;t get no separation... no,  no, no. He&#039;ll leave you stranded in the combat zone. You may be right. I may be crazy, but David Clowney&#039;s the deep field threat we&#039;re looking for... it&#039;s time to test him in a game.

I agree Smith could of, should of, would of gone to the CFL to be QB like Flutie and Warner. His WR Route to the NFL seems to have become a button hook to Special Teams at best.

What a waste of 4th round pick! 

Billy Joel</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dax,</p>
<p>You sped through Bedford Stuy alone. You may be right I may be crazy, but Mildcat Smith is not the QB/WR we&#8217;re looking for.</p>
<p>He&#8217;s just to slow&#8230; Can&#8217;t get no separation&#8230; no,  no, no. He&#8217;ll leave you stranded in the combat zone. You may be right. I may be crazy, but David Clowney&#8217;s the deep field threat we&#8217;re looking for&#8230; it&#8217;s time to test him in a game.</p>
<p>I agree Smith could of, should of, would of gone to the CFL to be QB like Flutie and Warner. His WR Route to the NFL seems to have become a button hook to Special Teams at best.</p>
<p>What a waste of 4th round pick! </p>
<p>Billy Joel</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 15:20:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s my formula for the jets to have a successful season:  RUN, RUN, RUN!!!!  And hopefully our stout defense can hold the opposing team to 13 or fewer points.  I&#039;m not sold on Sanchez or Kellen.  First round QB&#039;s only pan out half the time.  Should make a trade for Denver&#039;s disgruntled WR (I forgot his name off the top of my head).  I think we&#039;ll be ok.  Just gonna be very boring to watch offensively this year. But wait, Baltimore was quite boring offensively too last year and they made the playoffs!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s my formula for the jets to have a successful season:  RUN, RUN, RUN!!!!  And hopefully our stout defense can hold the opposing team to 13 or fewer points.  I&#8217;m not sold on Sanchez or Kellen.  First round QB&#8217;s only pan out half the time.  Should make a trade for Denver&#8217;s disgruntled WR (I forgot his name off the top of my head).  I think we&#8217;ll be ok.  Just gonna be very boring to watch offensively this year. But wait, Baltimore was quite boring offensively too last year and they made the playoffs!</p>
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		<title>By: Dax -from BedSty to Speed,NC</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dax -from BedSty to Speed,NC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 07:48:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is safe to say  the team may indeed need to address the WO position.But take a deep breath for a minute.Training camp league wide has yet to begin and we all know they will be some players that have all the tools but will get caught up in the numbers game and also why from some, to kick Brad Smith to the curb or to the Browns when even a few HOFer&#039;s at WO said it takes anywhere from 2-3 years to start understanding the pro game.When it was the Jets who asked him to change from a position he more than likely been playing since pee-wee or maybe even midget football.Lets give him every FAIR chance to make such a change smoothly.Cause I doubt if any of us here could have made the switch any quicker.Think about it cause he could&#039;ve pulled a Warren Moon and went to Canada to learn his heart felt craft with a chance of being on a level with a Flutie or maybe a Moon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is safe to say  the team may indeed need to address the WO position.But take a deep breath for a minute.Training camp league wide has yet to begin and we all know they will be some players that have all the tools but will get caught up in the numbers game and also why from some, to kick Brad Smith to the curb or to the Browns when even a few HOFer&#8217;s at WO said it takes anywhere from 2-3 years to start understanding the pro game.When it was the Jets who asked him to change from a position he more than likely been playing since pee-wee or maybe even midget football.Lets give him every FAIR chance to make such a change smoothly.Cause I doubt if any of us here could have made the switch any quicker.Think about it cause he could&#8217;ve pulled a Warren Moon and went to Canada to learn his heart felt craft with a chance of being on a level with a Flutie or maybe a Moon.</p>
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		<title>By: Dean Barbella</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dean Barbella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 07:24:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(Not so) Fast Fred,

My point regarding “taking a page out of the Patriots [and Bills] playbook” is both TO and Moss were great values as each was acquired on the cheap (TO = 4th round pick), beacuse they had worn out their welcome with theire respective clubs due to off the field antics. 

Now, do ya get the comparison?

Of which, we can say the same of both Plax and Matt Jones regardless of the off the field antics with drugs, guns or just shooting off their big mouths. 

I want the Jets to possibly capitalize on a proven player like Plax or Jones&#039;s huge (6&#039;6&quot;) potential with little risk (trades, salery) except for the opportunity cost... which is either of these guys going to another team like Miami. 

Or should I say, let&#039;s keep up with the Jones&#039; Belacheats and Parcells of the AFC East and take a chance on Matt?!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(Not so) Fast Fred,</p>
<p>My point regarding “taking a page out of the Patriots [and Bills] playbook” is both TO and Moss were great values as each was acquired on the cheap (TO = 4th round pick), beacuse they had worn out their welcome with theire respective clubs due to off the field antics. </p>
<p>Now, do ya get the comparison?</p>
<p>Of which, we can say the same of both Plax and Matt Jones regardless of the off the field antics with drugs, guns or just shooting off their big mouths. </p>
<p>I want the Jets to possibly capitalize on a proven player like Plax or Jones&#8217;s huge (6&#8242;6&#8243;) potential with little risk (trades, salery) except for the opportunity cost&#8230; which is either of these guys going to another team like Miami. </p>
<p>Or should I say, let&#8217;s keep up with the Jones&#8217; Belacheats and Parcells of the AFC East and take a chance on Matt?!</p>
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		<title>By: Pdubbs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pdubbs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 06:14:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Stuckey is just like Coles, no ?  Coles didn&#039;t hit 1000 yards last year..... not impossible to duplicate. 

However, every pass should go to Dustin keller.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Stuckey is just like Coles, no ?  Coles didn&#8217;t hit 1000 yards last year&#8230;.. not impossible to duplicate. </p>
<p>However, every pass should go to Dustin keller.</p>
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		<title>By: Mikekamin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mikekamin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 05:19:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greenblood-

are you his agent? Or maybe the Jets PR?
I can guarantee he won&#039;t be the teams most productive WR and if he is the Jets are in real trouble!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greenblood-</p>
<p>are you his agent? Or maybe the Jets PR?<br />
I can guarantee he won&#8217;t be the teams most productive WR and if he is the Jets are in real trouble!</p>
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		<title>By: GREENBLOOD</title>
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		<dc:creator>GREENBLOOD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 05:05:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marcus Henry is on our roster. He will end up as the second most productive WR this year, in some cases the most productive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marcus Henry is on our roster. He will end up as the second most productive WR this year, in some cases the most productive.</p>
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