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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/07/20/lets-talk-contracts/#comment-166460</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 03:20:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bent I think there was another thing that Rosenhaus didn&#039;t realize and that was how the committee backfield would come back into play.  When the Jets traded for Jones most teams were still featuring the &quot;stud back&quot; and in fact that was going to be Jones role on the team.  By the end of 2007 the NFL had pretty much realized it was a bad idea. Larry Johnson, Shaun Alexander and  Edgerrin James all pretty much fell apart and people realized they couldn&#039;t come back.  Even younger guys like Steven Jackson and Frank Gore saw their stats drop dramatically after getting huge workloads. 

Jones had worked himself into being the workhorse of the Bears and was going to be that in NY.  I&#039;m sure Rosenhaus&#039; plan was for TJ to be the guy in NY and in year three negotiate an extension for fear of losing Jones in year 4 or perhaps even planning a holdout when the contract was first signed, explaining why he agreed to the salary structure in the first place.  Little did he know the Jets would heavily invest in a QB and how unimportant a player like Jones would become in just two years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bent I think there was another thing that Rosenhaus didn&#8217;t realize and that was how the committee backfield would come back into play.  When the Jets traded for Jones most teams were still featuring the &#8220;stud back&#8221; and in fact that was going to be Jones role on the team.  By the end of 2007 the NFL had pretty much realized it was a bad idea. Larry Johnson, Shaun Alexander and  Edgerrin James all pretty much fell apart and people realized they couldn&#8217;t come back.  Even younger guys like Steven Jackson and Frank Gore saw their stats drop dramatically after getting huge workloads. </p>
<p>Jones had worked himself into being the workhorse of the Bears and was going to be that in NY.  I&#8217;m sure Rosenhaus&#8217; plan was for TJ to be the guy in NY and in year three negotiate an extension for fear of losing Jones in year 4 or perhaps even planning a holdout when the contract was first signed, explaining why he agreed to the salary structure in the first place.  Little did he know the Jets would heavily invest in a QB and how unimportant a player like Jones would become in just two years.</p>
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		<title>By: Harlan Lachman</title>
		<link>http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/07/20/lets-talk-contracts/#comment-166459</link>
		<dc:creator>Harlan Lachman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 03:20:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wayne, read up on your NFL rules.

Leon cannot go anywhere. He will either be paid a pittance to play here for three years (if there is no CBA, inasmuch as he will be an RFA for two seasons after this one), or

He will be paid a pittance this year and get tagged next year meaning he will have averaged less than $3.5 mil for the two years,

Or he will sign a multi-year deal, if he is lucky, in the 3.5 - 4 million range with the first year and a half to two guaranteed.

He just has no leverage. He ain&#039;t going anywhere. If he goes, he gets nada, nothing, just retired.

With the August 11th rule, he cannot even sit out all of training camp without making his situation worse (he gets no credit for the year and you can add a year to the situations above).

harlan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wayne, read up on your NFL rules.</p>
<p>Leon cannot go anywhere. He will either be paid a pittance to play here for three years (if there is no CBA, inasmuch as he will be an RFA for two seasons after this one), or</p>
<p>He will be paid a pittance this year and get tagged next year meaning he will have averaged less than $3.5 mil for the two years,</p>
<p>Or he will sign a multi-year deal, if he is lucky, in the 3.5 &#8211; 4 million range with the first year and a half to two guaranteed.</p>
<p>He just has no leverage. He ain&#8217;t going anywhere. If he goes, he gets nada, nothing, just retired.</p>
<p>With the August 11th rule, he cannot even sit out all of training camp without making his situation worse (he gets no credit for the year and you can add a year to the situations above).</p>
<p>harlan</p>
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		<title>By: Wayne</title>
		<link>http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/07/20/lets-talk-contracts/#comment-166453</link>
		<dc:creator>Wayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 03:08:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Run Leon Run........away from the Jets, and to a team that understands how valuable you are.  The Jets know your value is between $6.5 - $7.0 per year, with about $15 million guaranteed.  If they do not realize it now, they will over the next few years, as you tear up the league as a starter somewhere else.  Don&#039;t give in to their posturing.....Without you, they&#039;ll have to score passing it, and Sanchez is not ready to handle that type load.  Good luck!  I sure hope we do the right thing and lock you up!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Run Leon Run&#8230;&#8230;..away from the Jets, and to a team that understands how valuable you are.  The Jets know your value is between $6.5 &#8211; $7.0 per year, with about $15 million guaranteed.  If they do not realize it now, they will over the next few years, as you tear up the league as a starter somewhere else.  Don&#8217;t give in to their posturing&#8230;..Without you, they&#8217;ll have to score passing it, and Sanchez is not ready to handle that type load.  Good luck!  I sure hope we do the right thing and lock you up!</p>
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		<title>By: 2revis4</title>
		<link>http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/07/20/lets-talk-contracts/#comment-166429</link>
		<dc:creator>2revis4</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 22:42:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>july 31st the first day of camp at SUNY cortland..that is open to the public correct?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>july 31st the first day of camp at SUNY cortland..that is open to the public correct?</p>
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		<title>By: Bent</title>
		<link>http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/07/20/lets-talk-contracts/#comment-166418</link>
		<dc:creator>Bent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 21:53:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was basically for 20m and he&#039;s already had 13m of it.  At the end of 3 years he will have earned 14m.

Some journalists actually report the money from the first 3 years of a long term deal because it&#039;s such a given that anything beyond that might not be paid.

So, the money he received is nothing like 9-10m a year, but still decent market value considering his performance in year one did not come close to matching what he achieved last year.

It&#039;s actually rare for the Jets to structure a deal for a veteran this way.  I can&#039;t believe that Rosenhaus and Jones were unaware of the implications at the outset, so I figure that Rosenhaus probably told him at the time &quot;If you have a great year in year two, we&#039;ll be able to guilt trip them into advancing you more money and perhaps get the fans to pressure the team (unsaid: and then I can get another huge check for getting you more money)&quot;

I think he underestimated just how cap savvy the Jets front office (and its fans and bloggers) are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was basically for 20m and he&#8217;s already had 13m of it.  At the end of 3 years he will have earned 14m.</p>
<p>Some journalists actually report the money from the first 3 years of a long term deal because it&#8217;s such a given that anything beyond that might not be paid.</p>
<p>So, the money he received is nothing like 9-10m a year, but still decent market value considering his performance in year one did not come close to matching what he achieved last year.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s actually rare for the Jets to structure a deal for a veteran this way.  I can&#8217;t believe that Rosenhaus and Jones were unaware of the implications at the outset, so I figure that Rosenhaus probably told him at the time &#8220;If you have a great year in year two, we&#8217;ll be able to guilt trip them into advancing you more money and perhaps get the fans to pressure the team (unsaid: and then I can get another huge check for getting you more money)&#8221;</p>
<p>I think he underestimated just how cap savvy the Jets front office (and its fans and bloggers) are.</p>
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		<title>By: mikenyjets</title>
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		<dc:creator>mikenyjets</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 21:22:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No one seemed to comment that TJ insisted on a front-end loaded contract.  He made a ton of money early and is now complaining that he isn&#039;t making enough this year.  I don&#039;t know the exact amounts, but wasn&#039;t it $14ish a year for the first two, so his 3yr avg is about $9-10M.  Pretty damn good if you ask me!  I like him, but he should shut up and play!  Jets gave him cash up front, but I wouldn&#039;t expect a pro athlete to actually save it.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No one seemed to comment that TJ insisted on a front-end loaded contract.  He made a ton of money early and is now complaining that he isn&#8217;t making enough this year.  I don&#8217;t know the exact amounts, but wasn&#8217;t it $14ish a year for the first two, so his 3yr avg is about $9-10M.  Pretty damn good if you ask me!  I like him, but he should shut up and play!  Jets gave him cash up front, but I wouldn&#8217;t expect a pro athlete to actually save it&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Harvlis</title>
		<link>http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/07/20/lets-talk-contracts/#comment-166413</link>
		<dc:creator>Harvlis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 21:20:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is no sense in arguing with Rudy.  Either he is here to get Jet fans upset or he is the most ignorant Jet fan to post this blog.  

Tannenbaum is the man.  He will end up doing the best he can, to keep TJ and Leon here, while staying within the cap.  If he can&#039;t please them, he will make sure we have depth at the position.  Trust in Tanny.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no sense in arguing with Rudy.  Either he is here to get Jet fans upset or he is the most ignorant Jet fan to post this blog.  </p>
<p>Tannenbaum is the man.  He will end up doing the best he can, to keep TJ and Leon here, while staying within the cap.  If he can&#8217;t please them, he will make sure we have depth at the position.  Trust in Tanny.</p>
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		<title>By: AKA.....Drew</title>
		<link>http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/07/20/lets-talk-contracts/#comment-166398</link>
		<dc:creator>AKA.....Drew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 18:42:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unlike Janes from TN ( you big SEC lover ... lol ) Shonne Greene dominated all stout Big Ten run defenses this year and will be a stud for us down the line. 

TJ is a must for this year. We are not ready for Leon to be a featured back.....just yet</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unlike Janes from TN ( you big SEC lover &#8230; lol ) Shonne Greene dominated all stout Big Ten run defenses this year and will be a stud for us down the line. </p>
<p>TJ is a must for this year. We are not ready for Leon to be a featured back&#8230;..just yet</p>
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		<title>By: NYCal</title>
		<link>http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/07/20/lets-talk-contracts/#comment-166397</link>
		<dc:creator>NYCal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 18:28:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think losing Thomas Jones is the equivalent of losing Pete Kendall.  RB is one of the easier positions to replace.  OL men need time to gel and learn to work together.

Pay Leon and keep Jones for one more year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think losing Thomas Jones is the equivalent of losing Pete Kendall.  RB is one of the easier positions to replace.  OL men need time to gel and learn to work together.</p>
<p>Pay Leon and keep Jones for one more year.</p>
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		<title>By: James in TN</title>
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		<dc:creator>James in TN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 17:53:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the FO has done a great job of drafting and signing players.  Only one blemish on their record and that is Vernon Gholston who played in the big 10.  There is still a chance he might contribute(as a security guard).  I think the moves that the team has made puts us on a successful track.  Leon needs to be extended @3 mil per and TJ needs to have the contract divided equally for the next 2 years putting him at 3.8mil per year I think.  Greene needs a teacher and who better than TJ to get him ready.  Also in a run first offense you need as many weapons ready as possible at the RB position.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the FO has done a great job of drafting and signing players.  Only one blemish on their record and that is Vernon Gholston who played in the big 10.  There is still a chance he might contribute(as a security guard).  I think the moves that the team has made puts us on a successful track.  Leon needs to be extended @3 mil per and TJ needs to have the contract divided equally for the next 2 years putting him at 3.8mil per year I think.  Greene needs a teacher and who better than TJ to get him ready.  Also in a run first offense you need as many weapons ready as possible at the RB position.</p>
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