Comments on: Leon to Reporter: “I Have No Confidence in a Deal Getting Done” http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/07/31/leon-to-reporter-i-have-no-confidence-in-a-deal-getting-done/ Ranting and Raving about the Gang Green Sun, 21 Mar 2010 19:33:35 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Bent http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/07/31/leon-to-reporter-i-have-no-confidence-in-a-deal-getting-done/comment-page-1/#comment-168297 Bent Sat, 01 Aug 2009 11:13:13 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/?p=14673#comment-168297 Jason, "I do think the Jets are somewhat limited in what they can give in performance benefits to Washington and comply with the CBA." That's my line of thinking...the only way the Jets can bridge the gap between 3.5 and 6 is with NLTBE incentives, but that is going to be tough to achieve without backloading the salary to some extent. Also, I still think knowing whether or not there will be a cap is important not only because they know the urgency with which they must sign him, but also because they probably intend to use their current year cap space to lighten the 2010 burden. With no cap in 2010, that may not be necessary. Jason,

“I do think the Jets are somewhat limited in what they can give in performance benefits to Washington and comply with the CBA.”

That’s my line of thinking…the only way the Jets can bridge the gap between 3.5 and 6 is with NLTBE incentives, but that is going to be tough to achieve without backloading the salary to some extent.

Also, I still think knowing whether or not there will be a cap is important not only because they know the urgency with which they must sign him, but also because they probably intend to use their current year cap space to lighten the 2010 burden. With no cap in 2010, that may not be necessary.

]]> By: Jason http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/07/31/leon-to-reporter-i-have-no-confidence-in-a-deal-getting-done/comment-page-1/#comment-168283 Jason Sat, 01 Aug 2009 04:38:56 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/?p=14673#comment-168283 Mel, I don't think the CBA is as big of a deal as people are making it to be. In some ways its a PR move by the Jets to give the fans an excuse for not extending a popular player. I think the two sides are far apart in numbers. Leons camp wants 6/year and Keels has never been a guy to move off his numbers. I cant see any logical reason for the Jets to go over 3.5. The only way the CBA really gets in the way of the deal is that they are limited in the way they can structure the contract. This is a situation where Keels could normally save face by saying he got Leon 6 years, 36 million but the real numbers are 4 years 16 million with basically 20 million in salary in years 5 and 6 which would never be seen. The CBA does not allow that to happen. The only other CBA related hangup would be performance clauses. I do think the Jets are somewhat limited in what they can give in performance benefits to Washington and comply with the CBA. Still the bottom line is there is a huge difference in money figures. Mel,

I don’t think the CBA is as big of a deal as people are making it to be. In some ways its a PR move by the Jets to give the fans an excuse for not extending a popular player. I think the two sides are far apart in numbers. Leons camp wants 6/year and Keels has never been a guy to move off his numbers. I cant see any logical reason for the Jets to go over 3.5.

The only way the CBA really gets in the way of the deal is that they are limited in the way they can structure the contract. This is a situation where Keels could normally save face by saying he got Leon 6 years, 36 million but the real numbers are 4 years 16 million with basically 20 million in salary in years 5 and 6 which would never be seen. The CBA does not allow that to happen. The only other CBA related hangup would be performance clauses. I do think the Jets are somewhat limited in what they can give in performance benefits to Washington and comply with the CBA.

Still the bottom line is there is a huge difference in money figures.

]]> By: John http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/07/31/leon-to-reporter-i-have-no-confidence-in-a-deal-getting-done/comment-page-1/#comment-168273 John Sat, 01 Aug 2009 03:05:13 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/?p=14673#comment-168273 If thats the kind of player he is... good riddance. If thats the kind of player he is… good riddance.

]]> By: MikeJames http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/07/31/leon-to-reporter-i-have-no-confidence-in-a-deal-getting-done/comment-page-1/#comment-168272 MikeJames Sat, 01 Aug 2009 02:52:52 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/?p=14673#comment-168272 I wouldnt be suprised if he absolutley destroys it and holds out at an important game during the season. Can you hold out during the regular season? I wouldnt be suprised if he absolutley destroys it and holds out at an important game during the season. Can you hold out during the regular season?

]]> By: Lj http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/07/31/leon-to-reporter-i-have-no-confidence-in-a-deal-getting-done/comment-page-1/#comment-168255 Lj Sat, 01 Aug 2009 01:40:37 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/?p=14673#comment-168255 We need to lock Leon up before the season. If he has a good year, there will be teams like the redskins who will be willing to pay him 6 mil a year, and since he is a restricted free agent next year, we will be able to match his offer, but if he has a good year the market will be a competitive one for Leon. Also, If I were Leon I would be very angry with this whole situation. He's watched the front office overpay free agents the past two seasons, and meanwhile our 2 time reigning team MVP (I think) is making only a half million dollars a year and the team is giving him Lowball offers of 2 million per year. Sign him for 5 years around 23.5 million with half of that guaranteed, and some sort of incentives. We need to lock Leon up before the season. If he has a good year, there will be teams like the redskins who will be willing to pay him 6 mil a year, and since he is a restricted free agent next year, we will be able to match his offer, but if he has a good year the market will be a competitive one for Leon. Also, If I were Leon I would be very angry with this whole situation. He’s watched the front office overpay free agents the past two seasons, and meanwhile our 2 time reigning team MVP (I think) is making only a half million dollars a year and the team is giving him Lowball offers of 2 million per year. Sign him for 5 years around 23.5 million with half of that guaranteed, and some sort of incentives.

]]> By: TJBfan (twitter @infresco4) http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/07/31/leon-to-reporter-i-have-no-confidence-in-a-deal-getting-done/comment-page-1/#comment-168254 TJBfan (twitter @infresco4) Sat, 01 Aug 2009 01:36:52 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/?p=14673#comment-168254 It may not affect his play but it certainly will affect his loyalty. Thats what worries me most, because if the Jets aren't willing to get it done now he's just gonna walk when the time comes. It may not affect his play but it certainly will affect his loyalty.

Thats what worries me most, because if the Jets aren’t willing to get it done now he’s just gonna walk when the time comes.

]]> By: Deven http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/07/31/leon-to-reporter-i-have-no-confidence-in-a-deal-getting-done/comment-page-1/#comment-168253 Deven Sat, 01 Aug 2009 01:12:19 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/?p=14673#comment-168253 yea 6 million is steep for someone who is great but not an every down guy. give 2-3 mil and call it a day. lace it with incentives. that way he can make more based on performance and touches yea 6 million is steep for someone who is great but not an every down guy. give 2-3 mil and call it a day. lace it with incentives. that way he can make more based on performance and touches

]]> By: NorCal http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/07/31/leon-to-reporter-i-have-no-confidence-in-a-deal-getting-done/comment-page-1/#comment-168251 NorCal Sat, 01 Aug 2009 00:34:41 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/?p=14673#comment-168251 I like Leon, but c'mon, $6million/year? I can understand why Mr. T isn't willing to do that. If Leon wants a deal now (instead of when he has all the leverage in 2 years) then he needs to accept less. That is the way things are, in football and in life. I like Leon, but c’mon, $6million/year? I can understand why Mr. T isn’t willing to do that. If Leon wants a deal now (instead of when he has all the leverage in 2 years) then he needs to accept less. That is the way things are, in football and in life.

]]> By: Bent http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/07/31/leon-to-reporter-i-have-no-confidence-in-a-deal-getting-done/comment-page-1/#comment-168250 Bent Sat, 01 Aug 2009 00:28:56 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/?p=14673#comment-168250 Hopefully, you're both right. Fingers crossed! Hopefully, you’re both right. Fingers crossed!

]]> By: WilcoNYC http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/07/31/leon-to-reporter-i-have-no-confidence-in-a-deal-getting-done/comment-page-1/#comment-168249 WilcoNYC Sat, 01 Aug 2009 00:16:48 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/?p=14673#comment-168249 I don't think it will effect Leon's play. If anything, it should make him play his butt off even more. However, it will I'm sure linger in his mind about how he his being treated by this organization. He is arguably the best player we've got and Rex has talked about his importance. This deal needs to get done sooner rather than later. I don’t think it will effect Leon’s play. If anything, it should make him play his butt off even more. However, it will I’m sure linger in his mind about how he his being treated by this organization. He is arguably the best player we’ve got and Rex has talked about his importance. This deal needs to get done sooner rather than later.

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