Stuckey Wants To Be More Than “Slot”
As Bassett reported earlier, Chansi Stuckey is making the most out of this competition for the “other” WR spot opposite No. 1 Jerricho Cotchery. Well, after practice, Stuckey was asked how he wants to be known:
“As a reciever you just want to catch touchdowns and make plays … where you are. Inside, outside, in the backfield, wherever. Guys are going to have to defend. The defense is ogoing ot have to know where you are. So if you can go outside, inside and you just move around a lot, which we can do, that’s going ot have to make the defense prepare that much more.”
Stuckey made it clear he wasn’t afraid of being pigeonholed, either.
“No, I’m not afraid, because I’m not going to let it happen. I’m moving outside, inside. … I just wanna move around a lot and make plays everywhere.”
One of the things he was positive about was his ability to be a big-play wide reciever for the Jets.
“I’m definitely looking forward to stretching the field and doing deep stuff … Scotty’s (offensive coordinator Brian Schottenheimer) done a really good job of moving Jerricho (Cotchery) and I, and a lot of the other receivers around so DBs can’t really get a sonar on where are at all the time.”
A big theme with the offensive players today was the flexibility of the skill pieces the Jets have, regardless of their name value. It seems the offense is definitely going to revert to 2006 form with a lot of pre-snap shifts and motions. If taken at his word, Schottenheimer’s finally going to get a chance to run “his” offense the way he wants. Although everyone preached a fairly vanilla approach to the offense for Friday, it’ll be interesting to watch the offense progress through the preseason and into the regular season. One of the things I’ll be watching for is if all the pre-snap movement will actually affect the opposing defenses or whether it will be fancy dressing on a plane Jane doll.
34 Responses to Stuckey Wants To Be More Than “Slot”
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PAPA D says:
Love to have second big time receiver scoring TD’s
Maybe with Mangini gone the OFFENSIVE COORDINATOR can go back to yesteryear and put some fun and excitement into the play calling so the fans can really enjoy every last home game and stand up and cheer and yell loudly many, many times for the last season at the old stadium.
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JetFanINLA says:
I havent heard much about Brad Smith or David Clowney. Does anyone have any idea on there progress?
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Brett Justin says:
what happened to britt davis?
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Bent says: They’re all in the mix. All the jobs are up from grabs from WR2 downwards, although it would appear Stuckey is closer to wrapping that spot up than anyone else is to securing the third, fourth or fifth WR spot.
I’d guess that at the moment, Smith, Cotchery, Stuckey, Clowney, Wright and Davis (in no particular order) are the favorites to make the team, because everyone else seems to be mainly getting their reps with the third unit.
It could all change in preseason though. A couple of years ago, Chas Gessner had an amazing camp, but then dropped 4 of 5 passes thrown to him in the first two preseason games and was cut.
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vbsiena24 says:
Any word on Aundrae Allison?
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Bent says:
Allison has only been training since yesterday I think. Maybe the day before. There was a few days delay before he actually took part. I haven’t heard anything about him, other than that Ryan was interested to see what he could do. He has a few people to climb over to get into the first and second unit, but my guess is he’ll get a chance to play with the threes in the preseason game and if he does anything then maybe he can move up.
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john r says:
i dont think he is even close to a # 2. in college he was never that big of a reciever.
Stats Overview Receiving Rushing Fumbles
year catches yards td
2004 25 280 0
2005 64 770 4
2006 50 700 3i mean this is a guy who only had 7 td in all of college and now in the pro’s, he is going to be an solid producer. give me a break. if we want to talk about weakness, this is are number 1. forget about the qb, they will not have anyone to throw to
the facts just stand out to much in this case
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MSM says:
Matt Jones…
Anyone?… Anyone?????
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Harvlis says:
If, for two years in a row, Stuckey looks outstanding in pre-season — odds are he can play. He caught a TD in the first three games, last year, and fell off the map. I think he can be a tough assignment for the opposition. The fact that we don’t have one weapon for the enemy to concentrate on works in our favor.
As for the motion offense, I love it. There is no question that, when players are moving around, prior to the snap, the defense is back on their heels. Is the wide receiver, who is coming back to the QB, going to help block for the run or is he going to run a pattern to the middle of the field. Is the running back swinging out going to run a pass pattern or are they setting up a screen. We can throw to all of our RB’s so, the movement is real important. In addition, the QB gets to see what the coverage is going to be. Is a LB going to vacate his position, to cover a RB or TE who is shifting around.
I love it.
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oscarfactor says:
If Chansi can make it through 16 games without getting hurt, it will be a minor miracle.
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SackDance99 says:
History lesson. Schotty grew up in the Chargers system. In 2004, Brees had his first Pro Bowl season and had 27 TDs. His WRs? Eric Parker (47 rec.), Reche Caldwell (18), McCardell (31), Karim Osgood (15). Oh, he did have a pass catching TE, Gates (81 rec.). The story was more or less the same for Rivers in 2006, when he had 22 TDs and made the Pro Bowl, except Vincent Jackson replaced Caldwell and Malcolm Floyd replaced Osgood, but Gates still led the team in receptions.
Now, IMO, Cotchery is better, or at least equal, to any of the WRs that either Brees or Rivers had and Stuckey is better or equal to whichever WR you consider to be the Chargers no. 2. All in all, I think the Jets WR corps, with B. Smith, Clowney, Wright, etc is no worse than any of the Chargers’ WRs. With Keller as our Gates, I see no reason why the Jets can’t match the Chargers’ passing success.
And, I know that the Chargers had LT and overall a potent running game, but so do the Jets, especially if Leon and Greene are integrated properly. While getting a top notch WR would be great, as seen by the Chargers’ offensive success with Gates, a great pass-catching TE can be a more than adequate substitute.
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Bent says:
john r – Stuckey was an awesome collegiate player. He led the ACC in receiving in 2005, so it’s not like his numbers were that pedestrian (Calvin Johnson was 54-888 in 2005, for example). This was despite being on a team that had a great running game and did not pass the ball very much.
Collegiate seasons are 3/4 of the length of an NFL season and, as oscarfactor alludes to, he has missed some time. Laveranues Coles, who Stuckey is replacing had just 62 catches in his whole college career.
I hope he can stay healthy. There’s no reason he shouldn’t because he’s slightly bigger than Coles and has fully recovered from his foot problems. He managed to go through 16 games last year without getting hurt…he just needs to cope with the additional reps.
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first off, no way either of the jets options are better than brees.
secondly, in 2004 LT was the most dominent rb and offensive weapon in the game. i know we are good at running the ball, but are three headed monster is not as good as that
lastely, gates is a ton better than JC, DK or anything else you think the jets gotsack, you are right on a lot of things, but are way off here.
the jets need to bring in a couple of more option. aka matt jones. he adds size, which is something we do not have -
bent then why did he go in the 7th round? did he have injuries
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mole57 says:
john r,
same reason that Marques Colston went in the 7th round.And, we already have size at WR (Henry). We need someone who can separate. Not sure Matt Jones is able to do that either.
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Matt Jones is interesting only because we need a big WR. I mean we were previously interested in Plax who blew a whole in his leg.
In years past we have had great receivers but we have been lacking a 6’4 + guy. A go to guy in the redzone. It would take lots of pressure of KC or MS who ever gets the nod
The again I think adding Leon to certain packages is going to cause a ton of mismatches too so we might actually be ok at WR
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what would be wrong in trying matt jones out. whats the wrost thing, we cut him in the end
he had one mess up, give the man a chance
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Bent says:
john r – Yes. He had a stress fracture in his foot, which he played through in 2006 and then was hoping would be fully recovered by the combine, at which he was quoted as saying he hoped to run a 4.3 forty. When he only ran a 4.63, his stock fell and he lasted until the 7th round (he did run 4.53 and 4.49 at his pro day but I guess that didn’t help his cause), but at the end of 2005, some sources had been projecting him as a potential first rounder.
Here’s what Todd McShay said at the Combine in 2007:
“I think Chansi Stuckey is one of the more underrated prospects in this year’s class. I think because of that speed and his ability to separate and as a route runner will allow him to make it as a No. 2 or 3 reciever (sic) at the next level. He is only 5-10* and 193 pounds, but he’s got very good hands and he was extremely productive in his last two seasons at Clemson…It wouldn’t surprise me at all if he was drafted by the end of the first day.”
(Note: Chansi actually measured at 5’10 and 5/8 at the combine, but for some reason is listed at 6’0″ by the Jets).
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BubbyBrister/shovelpass says:
Bent – that “extra” 1and 3/8th inches always seems to get tacked on with Jets players…Just ask Vinny T. about crossing the goal line against Seattle…
lol
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john r,
This thread is not about the QB, of course Brees is better, so was Rivers (but, remember ’04 was Brees’ breakout year as was ’06 for Rivers…both were unproven to that point). The point of my post was the receiving corps and you side-stepped my central point: that the Jets WRs are better than the Chargers’ from 2004 and 2006. While LT is undoubtedly better than the Jets’ trio, I think the Jets’ OL is better. Fact is that as a defense you play the run the same whether the RB is LT or Leon. The point is that the running game is a threat and has to be defensed.
Now, let’s get to the Gates-Keller comparison. Gates is taller, but Keller is faster and a much better route runner (and Gates is not a good blocker). In Gates’ rookie season he had 24 receptions for 389 yards and 2 TDs. Keller had 48 receptions, 589 yards and 3 TDs. Gates exploded in his second year; why can’t Keller?
The Jets don’t necessarily need another WR if Keller steps up, like the Chargers didn’t need a true no. 1 WR with Gates. And, by the way, I just would like the Jets to have the 16th ranked offense or better. The Chargers, without a true no. 1 WR, had the no. 3 scoring offense in ’04 and the no. 1 in ’06. So, even accounting for the fact that the Jets, allegedly, have less talent at QB, RB and TE, I just want a mediocre offense. Anything more would be a bonus.
And, Matt Jones is your solution? He runs routes terribly, has bad practice habits and hasn’t established himself as a bona fide WR in the NFL. I’d rather have Marcus Henry, at least he was a beast in college.
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MrJetGreen says:
I would rather see Brad Smith in the slot. He has a much better chance of sustaining the “beatings” and can be easily featured into the “RAMJET” offense.
Miami can have the WILDCAT with Ronny Brown while the Jets can run the RAMJET with Brad Smith.
What do you think Jetfans, the RAMJET……
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Oh, and add T.J. Houshmanzadeh as another 7th round WR and Pro Bowler. Where a player is drafted (or a UDFA) only matters for the player’s contract. After that, everything is proven on the field and Stuckey has been a great practice player (like Westerman is now) and had good success last season in his first NFL action. Players usually get better with experience, especially at WR, where the learning curve might be the most difficult.
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Bent says:
Ugh…that just makes me shudder because it brings back memories of Patrick “Roger Ramjet” Ramsey.
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Bent, I didn’t know Ramsey was known as Roger Ramjet……… I think the RAMJET offense works but we need to steer clear of the term Swaggerlicious, how ever it is spelled………its simply foul……….LOL.
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The Jets have a real good bunch of receivers on the roster. I’ll put it in a better perspective……..There was a time we had a guy who could not catch a beach ball thrown by a toddler, that guy was Justin McCareins. Stuckey, Smith and a few others are ALL PRO material in comparison. Go Jets…….
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Freeman 24 says:
In total agreement with Sack, if Keller steps up and Chansi takes the next step with Leon out of the backfield and Cotch we can turn our perceived weakness into a well balanced dynamic pass attack. Teams are going to have to worry about our running game so there will be oppourtunities.
People sometimes get too hung up on last years stats or a players name. There is no reason to believe that Keller can’t come clost to Gates numbers this year based on what he showed last season. I think he and Cotch will be options 1 and 1a. Stuckey is entering that magical 3rd year for wrs and I haven’t read a bad comment about him from this years camp. All he needs to do is complement Cotch and Keller. With Leon out of the backfield look out.
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dakar says:
free…
i agree with you and every1else who thinks as you think…again…waisting money on matt jones is just that…waisting money…just my thoughts…
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Organized Chaos says:
JUST READ A REPORT THAT THE JETS ARE TRYING TO TRADE THOMAS JONES TO AN NFC WEST TEAM.
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Cakeboy says:
Plaese be crabtree or boldin if so ms will be rookie of the year
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Wise Old Jet Fan says:
Stuckey is not bigger than Coles, not even close to 6’0″ as mentioned above.
That 1 3/8 inches has also been added to Sanchez and Leon’s listed heights as well as others.
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greene says:
i have to agree with inches being added to jet players. have you seen pictures of sanchez standing next to stafford? stafford kinda monsters over him, in both width and height.
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Bent says:
The best measurement is the combine, because that’s an even playing field and all players are measured without shoes.
Stuckey was 5’10 5/8 whereas Coles was 5’11 1/4, so Coles is 5/8 of an inch taller, although Coles was listed at 5’11 and Stuckey is listed at 6’0″…although maybe he grew a bit more – he is theoretically young enough.
Sanchez was 6’2″ 1/8 and his listed height is 6’2″. Fair enough.
Huey Whittaker on the other hand was listed as 6’5″ in AFL, but is only listed at 6’2″ by the Jets (he didn’t attend the combine so we can’t use that on this occasion).
I think the lesson is that they don’t worry too much about being accurate, because they aren’t that bothered about an inch here or there and neither should we be.
Excellent point on window dressing, I thought Schott’s offense was effective in his first year due because it was so well disguised, but essentially it was a simple offense and by the end of the year became predictable, to me, my friends and of course the opponents.