Comments on: Link: Douglas Ready to Lead and Contribute on Big Stage http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/08/28/link-douglas-ready-to-lead-and-contribute-on-big-stage/ Ranting and Raving about the Gang Green Mon, 22 Mar 2010 04:57:16 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: fonzie http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/08/28/link-douglas-ready-to-lead-and-contribute-on-big-stage/comment-page-1/#comment-174241 fonzie Sat, 29 Aug 2009 04:05:42 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/08/28/link-douglas-ready-to-lead-and-contribute-on-big-stage/#comment-174241 Well I know that Coleman and Douglas are NOT replacable. There is one HUGE difference between the two of them. Coleman was required to hold the line against the run in 2007 and 2008 as a 3-4 base defensive end but he went under the radar because he was not 'explosive'. Thats fine. I did see the first preseason game during the second series against the Rams. Not only was Douglas turned around, pushed back, and slammed into the ground but I could see that he was dominated because he was mouthing off and trying to pick fights after each running play. His tricks don't work against a solid experienced offensive line. The patriots offensive line this year (though they are not that strong according to some people) will eat him up all day long. Douglas can only work in Ryan's scheme and thats it. Coleman is working on improving his 3-4 base play and incorporating new looks of the 3-4. I said this before "When the front seven of both teams meet at the line, will the jets front seven win on the key play to turn the game into their favor?" This point during the game will be obvious to tell it just up to you guys to accept it. The jets are as good as their weakest link and that is the defensive line. Well I know that Coleman and Douglas are NOT replacable. There is one HUGE difference between the two of them. Coleman was required to hold the line against the run in 2007 and 2008 as a 3-4 base defensive end but he went under the radar because he was not ‘explosive’. Thats fine. I did see the first preseason game during the second series against the Rams. Not only was Douglas turned around, pushed back, and slammed into the ground but I could see that he was dominated because he was mouthing off and trying to pick fights after each running play. His tricks don’t work against a solid experienced offensive line. The patriots offensive line this year (though they are not that strong according to some people) will eat him up all day long. Douglas can only work in Ryan’s scheme and thats it. Coleman is working on improving his 3-4 base play and incorporating new looks of the 3-4. I said this before “When the front seven of both teams meet at the line, will the jets front seven win on the key play to turn the game into their favor?” This point during the game will be obvious to tell it just up to you guys to accept it. The jets are as good as their weakest link and that is the defensive line.

]]> By: steviek http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/08/28/link-douglas-ready-to-lead-and-contribute-on-big-stage/comment-page-1/#comment-174209 steviek Fri, 28 Aug 2009 21:56:11 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/08/28/link-douglas-ready-to-lead-and-contribute-on-big-stage/#comment-174209 a 3-4 end? hold the line. dont get pushed off your spot or containment. penetration or sacks are just gravy. a 3-4 end? hold the line. dont get pushed off your spot or containment. penetration or sacks are just gravy.

]]> By: Harvlis http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/08/28/link-douglas-ready-to-lead-and-contribute-on-big-stage/comment-page-1/#comment-174205 Harvlis Fri, 28 Aug 2009 21:50:31 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/08/28/link-douglas-ready-to-lead-and-contribute-on-big-stage/#comment-174205 Kirk, This year is different than the past three. It will be the system that is important, not individual performance. Our pass defense will be much better, because we will be putting pressure on the opposition. For the past three years, we have sat back and provided token pressure, allowing rookies and incompetents to look good against us. With Ryan and Pettine, this is a whole 'nother ball game Kirk,

This year is different than the past three. It will be the system that is important, not individual performance. Our pass defense will be much better, because we will be putting pressure on the opposition. For the past three years, we have sat back and provided token pressure, allowing rookies and incompetents to look good against us. With Ryan and Pettine, this is a whole ‘nother ball game

]]> By: Bent http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/08/28/link-douglas-ready-to-lead-and-contribute-on-big-stage/comment-page-1/#comment-174202 Bent Fri, 28 Aug 2009 21:45:12 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/08/28/link-douglas-ready-to-lead-and-contribute-on-big-stage/#comment-174202 Pitoitua was great last week. One step at a time though. I think he's earned a shot with the second unit - and maybe even some first team reps. Let's see how he gets on there. It will be disappointing if he only plays with the third unit. Pitoitua was great last week. One step at a time though. I think he’s earned a shot with the second unit – and maybe even some first team reps. Let’s see how he gets on there. It will be disappointing if he only plays with the third unit.

]]> By: Nikolas http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/08/28/link-douglas-ready-to-lead-and-contribute-on-big-stage/comment-page-1/#comment-174201 Nikolas Fri, 28 Aug 2009 21:41:45 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/08/28/link-douglas-ready-to-lead-and-contribute-on-big-stage/#comment-174201 Ellis, Jenkins and Douglas will be a load for any OL. This will allow the LB line to make plays. My concern is the two OLB, with Pace out for 4 games. Bryan Thomas is at best average and Gholston has show nothing so far. Ellis, Jenkins and Douglas will be a load for any OL. This will allow the LB line to make plays. My concern is the two OLB, with Pace out for 4 games. Bryan Thomas is at best average and Gholston has show nothing so far.

]]> By: david i http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/08/28/link-douglas-ready-to-lead-and-contribute-on-big-stage/comment-page-1/#comment-174190 david i Fri, 28 Aug 2009 20:29:56 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/08/28/link-douglas-ready-to-lead-and-contribute-on-big-stage/#comment-174190 I think Ripoti Pitoitua has looked solid and I wonder if he is going to make the team. I think Ripoti Pitoitua has looked solid and I wonder if he is going to make the team.

]]> By: Kirk the Jerk http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/08/28/link-douglas-ready-to-lead-and-contribute-on-big-stage/comment-page-1/#comment-174183 Kirk the Jerk Fri, 28 Aug 2009 19:51:39 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/08/28/link-douglas-ready-to-lead-and-contribute-on-big-stage/#comment-174183 This hasn't really been discussed much, but the Jets REALLY NEED a strong contribution from Douglas, Devito and Pitoitua. The pass defense last year was WEAK and even with upgrades at S and CB, the team needs strong play at the ends of the D-line. When Jenkins sits, the pass rush suffers. When Pace is out, the pass rush suffers. When Ellis is out,...well you get the idea. It's the unheralded players on the D-line that will get the difference this year between a playoff contender and a playoff pretender. This hasn’t really been discussed much, but the Jets REALLY NEED a strong contribution from Douglas, Devito and Pitoitua. The pass defense last year was WEAK and even with upgrades at S and CB, the team needs strong play at the ends of the D-line. When Jenkins sits, the pass rush suffers. When Pace is out, the pass rush suffers. When Ellis is out,…well you get the idea. It’s the unheralded players on the D-line that will get the difference this year between a playoff contender and a playoff pretender.

]]> By: Harvlis http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/08/28/link-douglas-ready-to-lead-and-contribute-on-big-stage/comment-page-1/#comment-174181 Harvlis Fri, 28 Aug 2009 19:37:46 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/08/28/link-douglas-ready-to-lead-and-contribute-on-big-stage/#comment-174181 Excuse me, RE not LE. Excuse me, RE not LE.

]]> By: Harvlis http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/08/28/link-douglas-ready-to-lead-and-contribute-on-big-stage/comment-page-1/#comment-174180 Harvlis Fri, 28 Aug 2009 19:36:10 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/08/28/link-douglas-ready-to-lead-and-contribute-on-big-stage/#comment-174180 A LE, in a 3-4, has a different set of responsibilities then a LE in a 4-3. The 4-3 end is usually lighter, faster, and the teams' best pass rusher. In a 3-4, you need someone like Douglas who is heavier, has great explosion, and can require a double team. He has to occupy or wall off the Offensive linemen, so that the LB's can make the plays. Douglas might be the right man for the job. If Ryan, who knows more about Defense than 99.999% of living beings, thinks that Douglas can do the job -- that's good enough for me. A LE, in a 3-4, has a different set of responsibilities then a LE in a 4-3. The 4-3 end is usually lighter, faster, and the teams’ best pass rusher. In a 3-4, you need someone like Douglas who is heavier, has great explosion, and can require a double team. He has to occupy or wall off the Offensive linemen, so that the LB’s can make the plays. Douglas might be the right man for the job. If Ryan, who knows more about Defense than 99.999% of living beings, thinks that Douglas can do the job — that’s good enough for me.

]]> By: vajet http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/08/28/link-douglas-ready-to-lead-and-contribute-on-big-stage/comment-page-1/#comment-174174 vajet Fri, 28 Aug 2009 19:32:27 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/08/28/link-douglas-ready-to-lead-and-contribute-on-big-stage/#comment-174174 why "a pig?" he's a solid contibutor, and not historically, an injury-prone player. considering that jenkins will still be spelled out occassionally, i am very happy rex brought him along from balt. to solidify our line. why “a pig?”

he’s a solid contibutor, and not historically, an injury-prone player. considering that jenkins will still be spelled out occassionally, i am very happy rex brought him along from balt. to solidify our line.

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