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	<title>Comments on: Buzz: Broncos Want Harris &#8216;In Any Deal&#8217; For Brandon Marshall</title>
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		<title>By: Rizzo</title>
		<link>http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/09/02/buzz-broncos-want-harris-in-any-deal-for-brandon-marshall/#comment-176424</link>
		<dc:creator>Rizzo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 03:44:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Enough Seanmac</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Enough Seanmac</p>
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		<title>By: RKNYC</title>
		<link>http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/09/02/buzz-broncos-want-harris-in-any-deal-for-brandon-marshall/#comment-176125</link>
		<dc:creator>RKNYC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 16:30:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just to reiterate some comments from above:

Bat sh1t crazy
Bukkake
Absurd
McDaniels Assclown

That pretty much sums up this speculation for David Harris being traded.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to reiterate some comments from above:</p>
<p>Bat sh1t crazy<br />
Bukkake<br />
Absurd<br />
McDaniels Assclown</p>
<p>That pretty much sums up this speculation for David Harris being traded.</p>
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		<title>By: seanmac31</title>
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		<dc:creator>seanmac31</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 15:42:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s nothing wrong with sniffing around Marshall- a GM should always be looking to upgrade his team, and if there is a talented player available, then you need to due the dilligence.  

But I think that people need to accurately evaluate not just the talent on the team but the talent in question.  Marshall is a possession receiver.  His raw numbers hide that because you don&#039;t see the number of pass attempts it took to get him to those numbers.  Yards per completion also hide it to a certain degree.  Marshall was sixth or seventh in the league in yards per game, but if you look at the yards per attempt, there is a big gap between him and the guys ahead of him.  Here&#039;s a list:

Andre Johnson: 9.26
Calvin Johnson: 8.87
Greg Jennings: 9.22
Steve Smith:  11.01
Larry Fitzgerald: 9.29
Reggie Wayne: 8.80
Roddy White: 9.33
Randy Moss: 8.06 ** (This is with a backup quarterback all season- with Brady, he was at 9.33)

Laveranues Coles: 7.39
Jerricho Cotchery: 7.72
Brandon Marshall: 6.98

So on a per throw basis, not only was Marshall nowhere near as effective as the top receivers in the game, he wasn&#039;t even as good as either starting receiver for the Jets last season.  Does that mean that he&#039;s less talented than Coles or Cotchery?  No, not necessarily.  After all, maybe he was drawing heavy coverage and was the focal point of the opposing defense&#039;s game plan.  But even so, you have to look at what the Jets want to do and then ask yourself if this move makes any sense.  The Broncos had an elite quarterback and had to throw the ball 600+ times last year.  Nearly one in three of those passes was directed at Marshall, and even then he only generated around 1250 yards.  If the Jets are going to throw the ball 350-400 times, then exactly how much more effective is Marshall going to be than Jerricho Cotchery would be in that situation?  Not enough.  

You build a team with an end in mind, not just by running around thoughtlessly after players.  

**As an aside, I find it amusing that people are perfectly happy to throw away draft picks for Brandon Marshall, but as soon as they see a quality player who they like come into the discussion, they scream bloody murder.  Do you know what David Harris is?  The result of our draft picks.  The whole point of the draft is to find young, cheap talent that is locked in for a set time into your cap structure.  So when people want to start winging off our draft picks to Denver, just picture David Harris or Darrelle Revis in place of that pick.  It should help provide perspective.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s nothing wrong with sniffing around Marshall- a GM should always be looking to upgrade his team, and if there is a talented player available, then you need to due the dilligence.  </p>
<p>But I think that people need to accurately evaluate not just the talent on the team but the talent in question.  Marshall is a possession receiver.  His raw numbers hide that because you don&#8217;t see the number of pass attempts it took to get him to those numbers.  Yards per completion also hide it to a certain degree.  Marshall was sixth or seventh in the league in yards per game, but if you look at the yards per attempt, there is a big gap between him and the guys ahead of him.  Here&#8217;s a list:</p>
<p>Andre Johnson: 9.26<br />
Calvin Johnson: 8.87<br />
Greg Jennings: 9.22<br />
Steve Smith:  11.01<br />
Larry Fitzgerald: 9.29<br />
Reggie Wayne: 8.80<br />
Roddy White: 9.33<br />
Randy Moss: 8.06 ** (This is with a backup quarterback all season- with Brady, he was at 9.33)</p>
<p>Laveranues Coles: 7.39<br />
Jerricho Cotchery: 7.72<br />
Brandon Marshall: 6.98</p>
<p>So on a per throw basis, not only was Marshall nowhere near as effective as the top receivers in the game, he wasn&#8217;t even as good as either starting receiver for the Jets last season.  Does that mean that he&#8217;s less talented than Coles or Cotchery?  No, not necessarily.  After all, maybe he was drawing heavy coverage and was the focal point of the opposing defense&#8217;s game plan.  But even so, you have to look at what the Jets want to do and then ask yourself if this move makes any sense.  The Broncos had an elite quarterback and had to throw the ball 600+ times last year.  Nearly one in three of those passes was directed at Marshall, and even then he only generated around 1250 yards.  If the Jets are going to throw the ball 350-400 times, then exactly how much more effective is Marshall going to be than Jerricho Cotchery would be in that situation?  Not enough.  </p>
<p>You build a team with an end in mind, not just by running around thoughtlessly after players.  </p>
<p>**As an aside, I find it amusing that people are perfectly happy to throw away draft picks for Brandon Marshall, but as soon as they see a quality player who they like come into the discussion, they scream bloody murder.  Do you know what David Harris is?  The result of our draft picks.  The whole point of the draft is to find young, cheap talent that is locked in for a set time into your cap structure.  So when people want to start winging off our draft picks to Denver, just picture David Harris or Darrelle Revis in place of that pick.  It should help provide perspective.</p>
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		<title>By: jeffjets4</title>
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		<dc:creator>jeffjets4</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 15:18:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is just stupid.  A first rounder and a star lb for a reciever that will prob get suspended by the league naex year? just stupid</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is just stupid.  A first rounder and a star lb for a reciever that will prob get suspended by the league naex year? just stupid</p>
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		<title>By: matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 14:17:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i wouldnt do this now but if marshall never had a off the field issure and wasnt a hot head ever i would make that trade but all that off the field stuff brings his value down</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i wouldnt do this now but if marshall never had a off the field issure and wasnt a hot head ever i would make that trade but all that off the field stuff brings his value down</p>
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		<title>By: DP</title>
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		<dc:creator>DP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 14:05:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No way, JOSE!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No way, JOSE!</p>
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		<title>By: GP</title>
		<link>http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/09/02/buzz-broncos-want-harris-in-any-deal-for-brandon-marshall/#comment-176038</link>
		<dc:creator>GP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 13:38:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the words of my man Coach Boone, they must be outside their minds!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the words of my man Coach Boone, they must be outside their minds!</p>
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		<title>By: JustAGreenGuy</title>
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		<dc:creator>JustAGreenGuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 13:18:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not disagreeing with you, but it is still more complicated than that. There was the Kendall situation and the way Baker (We still haven&#039;t replaced him) was handled. Plus the fact that I think Woody will be holding him responsible shall we lose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not disagreeing with you, but it is still more complicated than that. There was the Kendall situation and the way Baker (We still haven&#8217;t replaced him) was handled. Plus the fact that I think Woody will be holding him responsible shall we lose.</p>
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		<title>By: niko1677</title>
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		<dc:creator>niko1677</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 13:11:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JAGG, the Jets inconsistency over the seasons he has been GM here has been mainly due to 2 points, QB play and the inability of the defense to carry the offense when it struggles.  I think his biggest mistake was that it took so long to settle the QB situation, but he was dealing with a QB who was loved in NY (Chad) and another that never lived up to his talent (Clemens).  Both the QB and defense issues have been addressed now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JAGG, the Jets inconsistency over the seasons he has been GM here has been mainly due to 2 points, QB play and the inability of the defense to carry the offense when it struggles.  I think his biggest mistake was that it took so long to settle the QB situation, but he was dealing with a QB who was loved in NY (Chad) and another that never lived up to his talent (Clemens).  Both the QB and defense issues have been addressed now.</p>
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		<title>By: JustAGreenGuy</title>
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		<dc:creator>JustAGreenGuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 13:01:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Niko- He has raised the talent level, but if we still can&#039;t win what was the point? To spend a lot of money? To get the fans to pay PSLs?

I think Tanny has done a great job, but all that matters in this league is winning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Niko- He has raised the talent level, but if we still can&#8217;t win what was the point? To spend a lot of money? To get the fans to pay PSLs?</p>
<p>I think Tanny has done a great job, but all that matters in this league is winning.</p>
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