Jets Waive FB Jason Davis, Sign LB Ryan Fowler
M.A. Mehta noted on Twiter that the Jets have waived backup Fullback Jason Davis in favor of Ryan Fowler, who tried out yesterday. Fowler started 16 games for the Titans two years ago, eventually being replaced by Stephen Tulloch last year as a starter.
For those of you scoring at home, yes, that’s the team’s 10th linebacker. I do believe that Tannenbaum needs to wean himself from the caffeine.
72 Responses to Jets Waive FB Jason Davis, Sign LB Ryan Fowler
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nyr2k2 says:
Didn’t Bent report this like 4 posts down the page? :-)
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starz31 says:
more depth the better. with the way bodies will be flying around the ball, i have no problem with depth… especially considering game 1 and then 2-4.
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JetObsessed28 says:
Eh.. this guy will be waived tomorrow for another punter.
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J-Kay says:
…why is Izzo still on the team
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igs says:
LBs – 10
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MEL31602 says:
At least the Post gives the Jets some respect, picking us to go 10-6 and make the wild card this year.
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Wise Old Jet Fan says:
The post picked the Jets to make the Super Bowl last year.
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someguy says:
Can we PLEASE get someone to backup the o-line? Why do we have 10 linebackers and 3 backup o-lineman?
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Cabras says:
Why does it seem like we are scrambling/shuffling at this point in the season? I agree with the lack of depth at O Line and WR.
As I said on Sunday, 1 appearance and 0 playoff wins in 5 years. I am not interested in names only results, I hope the staff can squeeze water from a stone!
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Jack says:
4 QBs and 10 LBs?
Um…..
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Tot yard avg. in20 in10 TB
Reggie Hodges 44 1884 42.8 14 3 12Steve Weatherford 59 2521 42.7 8 1 14
Ben Graham 37 1571 42.5 10 4 8
Really not expecting this guy to be the answer, same as it ever was, in fact worse inside 20 and 10.
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Jets-Fan-4-Life says:
I know whats going on here….. Maybe if Mike T collects enough LB’s to build a second team, he can trade “Team 2″ for 1 WR.
Works for me!
LOL
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Is there not a CB out there floating around that is better than Drew Coleman?
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8 “experts” make their Super Bowl and playoffs picks, not a single one picks the Jets to make the playoffs. Reality sucks.
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Bent says: “4 QBs and 10 LBs?
Um…..”
I’m trying to get my head round this too.
Until week six, there is no Pace, so they have just 9 linebackers (and for week one with no Ellis they have just 6 defensive linemen – 5 if DeVito can’t go).
If they’re maybe going to play 4-3, then all the OLBs become DEs and all of a sudden that changes to 11 defensive linemen and 5 linebackers (although Trusnik and Westerman could probably be counted as linebackers which would make it 9 and 7). Is that any better?
Hopefully we have enough versatility that this isn’t as stupid as it sounds! (Note: 11 DBs is pretty excessive too). If they just have an excess to cover for the loss of the suspended guys and the roster becomes more balanced when they return, then alright (although if they create room for Pace/Ellis by releasing an offensive lineman, we’ll all be scratching our heads!)
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BigKatFan says:
we need all the veterans we can get. especially linebackers
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Bent says:
Wise – If Hodges plays like he did in preseason (40.5 / 39.0) then even “same as it ever was” is an upgrade!
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Bob Vila says:
Some real head-scratchers on the personnel front.
We kept Izzo. We kept Coleman and Cole.
We waived Woodhead. We waived Caulcrick.
We have 2 TEs. We have 3 backup o-linemen. We have 10 LBs. We have 4 QBs.
We did not sign Matt Jones. We did not sign Alex Smith.
I want to keep on trusting Rex and the crew, and I know the season has yet to begin, but these choices are kinda weirdin’ me out.
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Bob Vila, I couldn’t have said it better myself. Nothing is being done abot WR and OL and every good FA that comes free the Jets look past… unless it’s a mediocre LB that lost his job to a less mediocre LB. There’s a reason why the Jets don’t EVER go to the SB. No matter what HC, GM or regimes are in, the same ugly monster keeps raring its ugly head. That monster is atrocious personnel decisions.
I feel like losing a couple pounds, putting on some geeky glasses, sneaking up on Mike Tanning-Bum, and whispering in his ear “Now you’re Terry Bradway.” As a matter fact when the Jets don’t make the playoffs this season I’m going to see if I can get an appointment.
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I want answers says:
Why is that we have the best return man in the league and arguably the best special teams coach and we can find a decent punter? Who was the last punter worth a kick?
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igs…. good points and great idea! At this point why don’t they just call Doug Jolley for the 3rd TE position?
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answers,
lol, or maybe they can convert VG into a TE. Pouha can learn how to play OL.
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Can someone tell me what it is with the Jets and paying they’re own guys when the time is due? It seems like every time they draft a decent player they would rather let the player walk than resign them. Is this a pattern?
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michael says:
umm, hope this doesn’t mean they are trading harris
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Sure would seem that way! Going all the way back to Hugh Douglas…. John Abraham (who by the way could do what Vernon does in 4 games even to this day)… J Vilma…. first go around with L. Coles…. on and on. They fall in love with everyone else’s players’ and neglect their own. I sure do hope that they tale care of Leon this year.
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Answers,
James Farrior would be a shingin example of that. But I don’t think they’ve been especially bad in that area.
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The guys you named are guys that were traded away toward the end of their contracts. But basically you’re right.
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It seems to be their M.O. Sure was hoping for more from Tanning-bum. Establish players that are good and that fans can get to know. Farrior would be a prime example.
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Another problem has been the change of regimes. Herm is in. They run a 4-3. They draft 4-3 guys. Things don’t work out. They get Man-Genie. He runs a 3-4. They get rid of great 4-3 guys like Vilma, a valueable draft pick, or Dewayne Robertson, who Bradway was dumb enough to trade 2 first round picks to get.
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Yep, you’re right he’s another D-Lineman that they fell in love with. Bradway has to rank as one of the worst personal men the Jets have ever employed. And getting rid of Vilma with the trade restriction and pending free agency was just stupid. Inept. Of course he was going to resign with N.O and they would wait to do it. Who puts that in a trade?
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Bent says:
It’s quite common, actually. The Eagles put a similar clause in the Lito Sheppard trade.
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I’m not much for the predictions of “experts” (guys who get paid for doing what we are doing while getting paid to do something else) but how the hell do people pick the friggin Bills to be better than the Jets this year? Their first team O didn’t score a single touchdown this pre-season, they fire their O coordinator 1 week before the 1st game, they dump their starting left tackle today, their QB’s suck…..
What’s the frequency Kenneth?
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Yep, geesh, I didn’t know there was anyone else on this blog that knows how to have an objective, clear opinion of what’s best for the team. It’s quite refreshing. I believe that’s also the reason they traded Abraham for a 2nd round pick.
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Pete57 says:
All this FO bashing is hysterical. The talent level on this team is much better than when Mr T took over. That’s the bottom line. They have been trying to get a better punter for a few years now. Just like 26 other teams. Hmm, maybe there’s not alot of quality punters available. Yeah and let’s knock Terry Bradway. The guy doesn’t know what he’s doing. Bill Parcells considers him one of the best talent evaluators in the league, but so what? We know better.
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I also seem to remember that Abraham’s first year with Atlanta, he got hurt and was out for the year. The trade was very good for the Jets. Abraham is unreliable at best.
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Pete,
But that’s not why Abraham got the boot. He got the boot because he was a 4-3 end. And Dewayne Robertson left because he was a 4-3 DT that couldn’t cut it as a NT.
The talent level of this team is generally high right now – Just talent, not achievement or experience – but that talent level has produced nothing and has come a the cost of having less talent spread throughout the team. Having less talent spread throughout the team’s positions For example, Darelle Revis is great pick at CB. But I think the team would be much better off having both of the picks they traded to get him, taking a lesser CB and adding another high round player.
The Jets tend to fixate on these players because they don’t really have aknack for developing talent. Which is also problematic.
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*I meant to say that having a less talent spread evenly throughout the team is one of the formulas for success in the NFL.
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SO the Jets traded a 1st, a 2nd, and a 5th round pick to get Revis. Perhaps they could have taken a lesser talent with that 1st pick, another strong contributor with that 2nd and a late round gem, perhaps a RB with that 5th. Instead you just have Darelle Revis.
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lgs – good points, but expecting the 1st and 2nd round picks to both work out well and the 5th rounder to be a gem is a lot to expect, don’t you think?
I do agree that that should stop trading away picks, but when it works – as in the case of Revis – I think it’s worth it. I’ll take the superstar over the gamble of flops/busts any day of the week, if we are lucky enough that it works out as in Revis’s case. I remember reading that they didn’t think it was a strong draft class that year and didn’t like their options below. They can’t keep doing those deals year in/year out though, we do need depth.
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BubbyBrister/shovelpass says:
“…Instead you just have Darelle Revis…”
I can totally live with that.
Next Question?
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Green Lantern says:
“…Instead you just have Darelle Revis…”
Instead we have a top 5 CB that is going into his thrid year in the pros…..Yea I DEFINITELY Would live with that. -
Bent says:
“But that’s not why Abraham got the boot.”
Correct. He got the boot for financial reasons. The Jets couldn’t afford to sign him to a long term deal and to franchise him would put him over the cap. As you’ll recall, the Jets had to release several vets (including Mawae and Sowell) to get under the cap that year.
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Matt E. says:
In regard to Farrior, Jets actually offered MORE than he got from Pittsburgh, Farrior and his agent badly overstated his value. Farrior ended up with Pittsburgh to save face, either he wouldn’t go back to the Jets or his pride wouldn’t let him. I recall reading this.
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NYC – that’s up to the team. I keep trying to strees that you don’t hope that the pick works out. You make the right pick and then you make sure he works out.
So for me evis is nce. But if I had say, Aaron Ross, a good WR prospect that we developed from the 2nd round in that draft. And a good late round RB, a la a Ryan Grant or Ahmad Bradshaw, I’ll take that over Darelle Revis any day.Bubby and Green – Of course you can live with it. You’re probably pretty used to not going to the playoffs. Next question…
Bent – Which is one of the upsides to Tanning-Bum. He can manage the hell out of that cap and and he does some phenomenal things with player contracts.
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Hmm, I wonder did the Steelers have any top 5 corners last season? Did the Giants win the SB with a top 5 corner. Didn’t the steelers at some point win a championship with Earthwind Moorland as their 2nd corner?
The better thing is to have more talent spread throughout the team instead having all your picks tied up in a couple of players.
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*I’m sorry I said steelers when I meant Patriots.
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supercooljetfan says:
i still get mad at the vilma trade the giants got a 2nd rounder straight up for shockey from the saints meanwhile we had to put all these clauses in our trade with arguabully at the time the 2nd best mlb in the league…but then new england trades seymour for 1st rd pick for a 30 year old in his last year of his contract…even the robertson trade once the broncos were out of the playoff hunt they sat him so they didnt even have to give us a 7th rd wtf!! lets not forget a 1st rd for doug jolley
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the jets traded abraham cause he wanted a lot of $$,he was always getting hurt,he was disgruntled from getting franchised the year be4,and a new regime (mangini) was coming in and wasnt crazy about him plus it aint proven but i think wussed out of the playoffs that year on us
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The Steelers and Giants both had amazing Pass Rushes which is Equivalent to having good Corners everywhere.
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Rusty,
And suppose all of that wasn’t so. Suppose Abraham never got hurt, had never been franchised, and didn’t want an exorbitant amount of money. What position was he going to play in the 3-4. You couldn’t ask him to all of a sudden become a LB after 5 years in the 4-3. He’s definately too small to play 3-4 DE. He would’ve still had to be dealt.
The smart thing for the Jets to have done in that situation was bring in another 4-3 coach to follow Herm. But they were just so obsessed with riding Belli-Cheat’s coattails that they brought in his boy wonder assistant, thus rendering all the 4-3 specific players useless or requiring a long period of adjustment.
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Green Lantern, that’s exactly my point. Having a strong pass rush with corners that are very good – not top 5 – but very good means your talent is distributed throughout the team instead of being caught up in one position. That makes you more flexible on the field as well as when you draft. It makes it easier to carry on when one player gets hurt. And it makes makes all your personnel decision that much easier. Thats how you win championships.
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The Giants corners aren’t really that good they just abused the Pats very bad.
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This is beyond the point we traded up for a top 5 CB whats wrong with that. Its not like we missed out on a bunch of Talented players that year..
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Green,
Apparently you don’t watch very many Giants game. They certainly dont have a corner as good as Revis. Ross can match Revis any day in technique but doesn’t have Revis’ athleticism or hands. Plenty of time I’ve seen Ross run a receiver’s route as if he were the receiver, he’s a very smart CB.
But let me ask you Green, how many of those players did the Steelers trade up to get?
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In exchange for John Abraham, the Jets got the 29th pick in the first round from Atlanta. They took Nick Mangold with the pick. I expect that trade to work in the Jets favor, by the time both guys are retired.
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This Pointless We missed out on nothing the Year Revis was drafted and we have possibly the 2nd best CB in the League. I love the pick.
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Couldn’t answer my question huh Green?
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igs,
thas what i meant about the new regime… should of been more specific about the changing to a 3-4 -
i think the giants secondary do good cause their pass rush is excellent where i feel like our pass rush does alright cause our secondary is excellent…i bet you if you watch last years games majority of our sacks are coverage sacks
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igs
couldnt agree more about the jets sticking with a 4-3 coach…i might get abused for this but i wanted donnie henderson to take over for herm that year at first…not gonna lie tho once they hired mangini i thought we were gonna get a baby belichik… -
I can answer the question we are just veering off topic.
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Green,
the question was, out of that Steeler’s team that you called a great pass rush and great DBs and the best safety in the league, which player did the Steelers trade picks and move up to get?
Rusty,
I certainly think it would’ve been better results to bring in Henderson. Even if the Jets tank for a few years – which they did anyway, players like Vilma and Robertson would be able to sharpen their skills in their natural defensive setting. It’s not like he could’ve done worse. I also thought we might get a baby Belli-Cheat. But I also was afraid that we would be Man-Genie’s stop off team on the way to success.
I think ultimately with the Giants, the pass rush and the coverage is balanced. One, you got one of the best pass rushes in the NFL without trading away picks ore moving around. Two you have a very good DB corp without trading away picks or moving aruond.
I mean, what exactly is Tanning-Bum’s model for all this pick wasting? Is he a disciple of Al Davis?
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That wasn’t the original question..
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Yes it was:
But let me ask you Green, how many of those players did the Steelers trade up to get?
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“SO the Jets traded a 1st, a 2nd, and a 5th round pick to get Revis. Perhaps they could have taken a lesser talent with that 1st pick, another strong contributor with that 2nd and a late round gem, perhaps a RB with that 5th. Instead you just have Darelle Revis.”
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Green,
that was the general statement, yes. But I posed a question specifically to you:
You said:
“But The Steelers have a excellent pass rush and good corners with the best safety in the league…”
And I responded with this question:
“But let me ask you Green, how many of those players did the Steelers trade up to get?”
Now you seem to want to tiptoe around the question. But forget it because we all know the answer. The point is that winning teams don’t waste draft picks in trades and don’t overvalue any one player. Winning teams take the best players available to them and develop them.
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That question is ireelevant to why I even started debating I am defending The Revis pick thats why I am “tiptoeing” around it.
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Seems to me, if there was some kind of precedent for that kind of thing, then it wouldn’t be so hard for you to come up with an example. Case closed.
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Bent says:
igs – they traded up for Polamalu (which after one season many people felt was a huge mistake) and also for Santonio Holmes.
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Bent,
Thank you Bent for answering my question.This is exactly what I’m talking about. They traded, I believe a 3rd rounder and a 7th rounder and didn’t move again in that draft. To move up for Holmes they gave up a 3rd and a 4th round pick. In each example you got one move, that doesn’t give up too much and they’re still left with plenty of picks.
They still had 9 picks in the 2006 draft and 5 in 2003. The Jets’ constant wheeling in dealing is truly unlike any other team in the league.
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Bent says:
Well, other than Oakland…
Maybe with Pace and Ellis out, some of those Linebackers will be playing more 4-3 DE, and they wanted the depth at 4-3/inside 3-4 linebacker. I’m sure one or two will be cut once Pace returns.