Comments on: The Rundown: The Lament of Richard Seymour http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/09/10/the-rundown-the-lament-of-richard-seymour/ Ranting and Raving about the Gang Green Sun, 12 Feb 2012 16:35:21 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: GANGGREEN http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/09/10/the-rundown-the-lament-of-richard-seymour/#comment-178924 GANGGREEN Fri, 11 Sep 2009 12:48:18 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/09/10/the-rundown-the-lament-of-richard-seymour/#comment-178924 The New England defense has been an aging group over the last several years.Billicheat is just getting value for an aging player while he can.One thing you have to give credit for to New Englands staff is they are great evaluators of talent.Look at Randy Moss everyone though he was a problem and he leads this team with Brady to the superbowl.Seymour voiced last year that he was looking to get out of New England and Bill gave him his wish.New England is looking to get younger and faster on defense and this is one move that will accomplish that goal.I cant stand the Patriots really i cant but their scouts and coaching staff always seem to make the right moves at the right time... The New England defense has been an aging group over the last several years.Billicheat is just getting value for an aging player while he can.One thing you have to give credit for to New Englands staff is they are great evaluators of talent.Look at Randy Moss everyone though he was a problem and he leads this team with Brady to the superbowl.Seymour voiced last year that he was looking to get out of New England and Bill gave him his wish.New England is looking to get younger and faster on defense and this is one move that will accomplish that goal.I cant stand the Patriots really i cant but their scouts and coaching staff always seem to make the right moves at the right time…

]]> By: Davidus1 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/09/10/the-rundown-the-lament-of-richard-seymour/#comment-178877 Davidus1 Fri, 11 Sep 2009 00:18:22 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/09/10/the-rundown-the-lament-of-richard-seymour/#comment-178877 I tend to agree with the suggestion that Oakland will not be as bad as projected. (Although it still makes me sick to know that the Patriots will have yet another 1st rounder). Heres how I see it. This trade is for a 2011 1st round pick. Thats not this draft, instead 2 drafts from now. So the value of this pick will be dependent on the results of the Oakland Raiders season from that year. Lets examine. We know that the Raiders will be playing their AFC West counterparts, so that is 6 games versus Kansas City, Denver and San Diego. Obviously San Diego is a great team, but Denver and Kansas City are teams in transistion (if you want to call it that) and the Raiders stand a good chance against these teams. The Raider will also play 8 games against the AFC East and NFC North (probably). Thats New England, Jets, Dolphins, Bills, Greenbay, Minnesotta, Chicago and Detroit. This represents the challenging portion of their schedule. Vikings will be looking for a new QB as will the Dolphins (probably), and Detroit will be another team in transition. Otherwise, this is a difficult schedule. Finally the Raiders will have 2 games against either the 2nd or 3rd ranked teams from the remaining two divisions (AFC North and AFC South). My guess is they will finish 3rd this season behind San Diego and Denver, but either way they will play teams like Bengals/Browns & Texans/Jaguars. All-in-all, with a young team that stands to get better. Jamarcus Russell and Darren McFadden are on the rise, this is a team that could win 7+ games in 2011. This would probably make the pick fall somewhere between 10-15 (based on recent years). While this is still great for the Pats, its not a top 5 like many people have been suggesting. Every win over 7 would make a huge difference. I tend to agree with the suggestion that Oakland will not be as bad as projected. (Although it still makes me sick to know that the Patriots will have yet another 1st rounder).

Heres how I see it. This trade is for a 2011 1st round pick. Thats not this draft, instead 2 drafts from now. So the value of this pick will be dependent on the results of the Oakland Raiders season from that year. Lets examine.

We know that the Raiders will be playing their AFC West counterparts, so that is 6 games versus Kansas City, Denver and San Diego. Obviously San Diego is a great team, but Denver and Kansas City are teams in transistion (if you want to call it that) and the Raiders stand a good chance against these teams.

The Raider will also play 8 games against the AFC East and NFC North (probably). Thats New England, Jets, Dolphins, Bills, Greenbay, Minnesotta, Chicago and Detroit. This represents the challenging portion of their schedule. Vikings will be looking for a new QB as will the Dolphins (probably), and Detroit will be another team in transition. Otherwise, this is a difficult schedule.

Finally the Raiders will have 2 games against either the 2nd or 3rd ranked teams from the remaining two divisions (AFC North and AFC South). My guess is they will finish 3rd this season behind San Diego and Denver, but either way they will play teams like Bengals/Browns & Texans/Jaguars.

All-in-all, with a young team that stands to get better. Jamarcus Russell and Darren McFadden are on the rise, this is a team that could win 7+ games in 2011. This would probably make the pick fall somewhere between 10-15 (based on recent years). While this is still great for the Pats, its not a top 5 like many people have been suggesting. Every win over 7 would make a huge difference.

]]> By: Zartan http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/09/10/the-rundown-the-lament-of-richard-seymour/#comment-178837 Zartan Thu, 10 Sep 2009 20:55:26 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/09/10/the-rundown-the-lament-of-richard-seymour/#comment-178837 I still don't get why u guys are counting the raiders out. I really think they'll be in it. Seymour will help a lot. I still don’t get why u guys are counting the raiders out. I really think they’ll be in it. Seymour will help a lot.

]]> By: Glocknsoul http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/09/10/the-rundown-the-lament-of-richard-seymour/#comment-178777 Glocknsoul Thu, 10 Sep 2009 18:04:37 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/09/10/the-rundown-the-lament-of-richard-seymour/#comment-178777 Only way the trade makes sense is if they give Seymour a 4-year deal, otherwise, you rented a player who won't be the difference for a lousy team at the cost of a top-five, rookie salary capped player. Stupefying. Only way the trade makes sense is if they give Seymour a 4-year deal, otherwise, you rented a player who won’t be the difference for a lousy team at the cost of a top-five, rookie salary capped player. Stupefying.

]]> By: Glocknsoul http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/09/10/the-rundown-the-lament-of-richard-seymour/#comment-178776 Glocknsoul Thu, 10 Sep 2009 18:02:57 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/09/10/the-rundown-the-lament-of-richard-seymour/#comment-178776 No way we get Seymour this year, although given Al Davis' logic, maybe a 4th rounder should get it done? No way we get Seymour this year, although given Al Davis’ logic, maybe a 4th rounder should get it done?

]]> By: Wise Old Jet Fan http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/09/10/the-rundown-the-lament-of-richard-seymour/#comment-178767 Wise Old Jet Fan Thu, 10 Sep 2009 17:52:32 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/09/10/the-rundown-the-lament-of-richard-seymour/#comment-178767 PS - sorry, screwed up some details above, but you get the pont (i hope). PS – sorry, screwed up some details above, but you get the pont (i hope).

]]> By: Wise Old Jet Fan http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/09/10/the-rundown-the-lament-of-richard-seymour/#comment-178766 Wise Old Jet Fan Thu, 10 Sep 2009 17:51:38 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/09/10/the-rundown-the-lament-of-richard-seymour/#comment-178766 Seymour wants a big contract, it is ALWAYS about money. This is his last chance for a big fat signing bonus and if Al Davis ponies up he will suit up in black and silver with a smile. Then of course, he will get tired of losing after 12 games, refuse to report, and OAK will trade him to the Dolphins for a 3rd round 2012 pick. Mr. T will miss the boat because he will be flying to MS to try and convince TO to report after trading our number one pick to the Bills to obtain his rights. Seymour wants a big contract, it is ALWAYS about money. This is his last chance for a big fat signing bonus and if Al Davis ponies up he will suit up in black and silver with a smile.

Then of course, he will get tired of losing after 12 games, refuse to report, and OAK will trade him to the Dolphins for a 3rd round 2012 pick.

Mr. T will miss the boat because he will be flying to MS to try and convince TO to report after trading our number one pick to the Bills to obtain his rights.

]]> By: Tish http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/09/10/the-rundown-the-lament-of-richard-seymour/#comment-178757 Tish Thu, 10 Sep 2009 17:37:35 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/09/10/the-rundown-the-lament-of-richard-seymour/#comment-178757 Seymour would appear to simply being unhappy with the idea of moving from a Pentouse franchise to an Outhouse franchise. Trades come with disruptions and this is really short notice, although extra money from Davis could calm the all-pro. Perhaps a few dollars and an assurance from Oakland that he won't be franchised next year will make him happy enough to visit the Raiders for a year. And I wouldn't even attempt to analyze what goes on inside of Davis' head in making such a move for one year. Seymour would appear to simply being unhappy with the idea of moving from a Pentouse franchise to an Outhouse franchise. Trades come with disruptions and this is really short notice, although extra money from Davis could calm the all-pro. Perhaps a few dollars and an assurance from Oakland that he won’t be franchised next year will make him happy enough to visit the Raiders for a year. And I wouldn’t even attempt to analyze what goes on inside of Davis’ head in making such a move for one year.

]]> By: Paul http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/09/10/the-rundown-the-lament-of-richard-seymour/#comment-178756 Paul Thu, 10 Sep 2009 17:35:28 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/09/10/the-rundown-the-lament-of-richard-seymour/#comment-178756 I would like to see Seymour on the Jets. Act now, and make a move. He would be the DE the Jets have needed for a long while, and would he thrive against his former teammates. I would like to see Seymour on the Jets. Act now, and make a move. He would be the DE the Jets have needed for a long while, and would he thrive against his former teammates.

]]> By: Bent http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/09/10/the-rundown-the-lament-of-richard-seymour/#comment-178753 Bent Thu, 10 Sep 2009 17:26:34 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/09/10/the-rundown-the-lament-of-richard-seymour/#comment-178753 Mel - Even so, you don't make that trade unless you know you're getting the guy for more than a season. (Unless it's a get-you-over-the-hump type move). That's the aspect of it that I find unbelievable and troubling, not the fact that the pick might be a high one (that's just me being pessimistic). Since Favre was clearly 100% likely to play, it would have been inaccurate to call him "probable" therefore, go away, NFL. PS - How dumb are you, NFL? Everyone could tell he was injured from the Raiders game onwards. You should have fined them at the time, or asked to examine him yourselves. Mo - I think if you don't report for a medical, the rule is different from if you were to show up and fail it. If Seymour wants to be NE's problem, he should show up, soak in some west coast sunshine and then deliberately flunk the medical (although I expect he'd get in trouble for that and I'm sure the Pats would still come out of it with their noses clean). Mel – Even so, you don’t make that trade unless you know you’re getting the guy for more than a season. (Unless it’s a get-you-over-the-hump type move). That’s the aspect of it that I find unbelievable and troubling, not the fact that the pick might be a high one (that’s just me being pessimistic).

Since Favre was clearly 100% likely to play, it would have been inaccurate to call him “probable” therefore, go away, NFL.

PS – How dumb are you, NFL? Everyone could tell he was injured from the Raiders game onwards. You should have fined them at the time, or asked to examine him yourselves.

Mo – I think if you don’t report for a medical, the rule is different from if you were to show up and fail it. If Seymour wants to be NE’s problem, he should show up, soak in some west coast sunshine and then deliberately flunk the medical (although I expect he’d get in trouble for that and I’m sure the Pats would still come out of it with their noses clean).

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