Comments on: Links: Reactions on Trade From Cleveland Media http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/10/08/links-reactions-on-trade-from-cleveland-media/ Ranting and Raving about the Gang Green Sun, 12 Feb 2012 18:02:55 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Biebs http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/10/08/links-reactions-on-trade-from-cleveland-media/#comment-188477 Biebs Fri, 09 Oct 2009 14:03:44 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/10/08/links-reactions-on-trade-from-cleveland-media/#comment-188477 To be fair, Edwards has been a mess the last 18 months in Cleveland. I do think the Browns were tired of his act and probably unwiling to resign him anyhow. I don't think any of the comments were particularly out of line. To be fair, Edwards has been a mess the last 18 months in Cleveland. I do think the Browns were tired of his act and probably unwiling to resign him anyhow.

I don’t think any of the comments were particularly out of line.

]]> By: dakar http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/10/08/links-reactions-on-trade-from-cleveland-media/#comment-188405 dakar Thu, 08 Oct 2009 22:43:43 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/10/08/links-reactions-on-trade-from-cleveland-media/#comment-188405 nyr... that was some funny shiite wasn't it... aka drew... it would be great to see all 5 on the field at the same time...that can cause some real problems for opposing Ds...but then there is SHOTTY calling the plays... satrburied... maybe the problem with edwards is he's wearing cast iron gloves over his stone hands...jk... wes... that was hillarious...OMG... i love this site...blog...whatever you want to call it...its the best... nyr…

that was some funny ****e wasn’t it…

aka drew…

it would be great to see all 5 on the field at the same time…that can cause some real problems for opposing Ds…but then there is SHOTTY calling the plays…

satrburied…

maybe the problem with edwards is he’s wearing cast iron gloves over his stone hands…jk…

wes…

that was hillarious…OMG…

i love this site…blog…whatever you want to call it…its the best…

]]> By: Wes http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/10/08/links-reactions-on-trade-from-cleveland-media/#comment-188390 Wes Thu, 08 Oct 2009 20:55:36 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/10/08/links-reactions-on-trade-from-cleveland-media/#comment-188390 I'm from Cleveland and can tell you with some confidence that Edwards will turn out to be a star player for you guys. Starburied is right about the 3 steps of all NFL teams, but don't forget the Brown's 5 SPECIAL steps: Step 1: Draft / get in trade a highly promising player Step 2: Play that player for a few years and be amazed at how poorly his performance is despite such talent. Step 3: Trade that player to a better team (ANY NFL team if you're the Browns) and watch them suddenly play to their potential. Step 4: Watch in dismay as the traded player wipes the field with you next time you're playing his new team. Step 5: Realize that maybe the problem isn't just one player, maybe it's the overall awfulness of the organization. Go Browns! :) I’m from Cleveland and can tell you with some confidence that Edwards will turn out to be a star player for you guys. Starburied is right about the 3 steps of all NFL teams, but don’t forget the Brown’s 5 SPECIAL steps:

Step 1: Draft / get in trade a highly promising player
Step 2: Play that player for a few years and be amazed at how poorly his performance is despite such talent.
Step 3: Trade that player to a better team (ANY NFL team if you’re the Browns) and watch them suddenly play to their potential.
Step 4: Watch in dismay as the traded player wipes the field with you next time you’re playing his new team.
Step 5: Realize that maybe the problem isn’t just one player, maybe it’s the overall awfulness of the organization.

Go Browns! :)

]]> By: greg sec 130 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/10/08/links-reactions-on-trade-from-cleveland-media/#comment-188384 greg sec 130 Thu, 08 Oct 2009 20:44:14 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/10/08/links-reactions-on-trade-from-cleveland-media/#comment-188384 I love this deal and don't think Bray lost anything (I think it's more like Moss in Oakland), but I'm just saying. I love this deal and don’t think Bray lost anything (I think it’s more like Moss in Oakland), but I’m just saying.

]]> By: greg sec 130 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/10/08/links-reactions-on-trade-from-cleveland-media/#comment-188383 greg sec 130 Thu, 08 Oct 2009 20:43:19 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/10/08/links-reactions-on-trade-from-cleveland-media/#comment-188383 Step 1: We love this Player A, he’s gonna be a huge star! Step 2: Player A is traded away. Step 3: Player A sucks! Worthless, wasn’t ever gonna make it, over the hill, a headache et al. Can't the same be said about Eric Mangini? It's possible between Step 1 and Step 2 that he lost something, like Eric did (his brain) Step 1: We love this Player A, he’s gonna be a huge star!
Step 2: Player A is traded away.
Step 3: Player A sucks! Worthless, wasn’t ever gonna make it, over the hill, a headache et al.

Can’t the same be said about Eric Mangini?

It’s possible between Step 1 and Step 2 that he lost something, like Eric did (his brain)

]]> By: Green Lantern http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/10/08/links-reactions-on-trade-from-cleveland-media/#comment-188325 Green Lantern Thu, 08 Oct 2009 17:43:54 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/10/08/links-reactions-on-trade-from-cleveland-media/#comment-188325 Starburied- In that losing year he was trying to do to much and wasn't focusing on just catching. Starburied-
In that losing year he was trying to do to much and wasn’t focusing on just catching.

]]> By: Eddie DiGio http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/10/08/links-reactions-on-trade-from-cleveland-media/#comment-188320 Eddie DiGio Thu, 08 Oct 2009 17:36:40 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/10/08/links-reactions-on-trade-from-cleveland-media/#comment-188320 nyr2k2 “If the Browns set out to put together a roster of more bland, run-of-the-mill players, they probably couldn’t do a better job.” I LOLed. Me too man. I just thought, typical Mangini nyr2k2
“If the Browns set out to put together a roster of more bland, run-of-the-mill players, they probably couldn’t do a better job.”

I LOLed.

Me too man. I just thought, typical Mangini

]]> By: Bent http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/10/08/links-reactions-on-trade-from-cleveland-media/#comment-188271 Bent Thu, 08 Oct 2009 15:16:54 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/10/08/links-reactions-on-trade-from-cleveland-media/#comment-188271 It could be any number of factors. Passes slightly off the mark, concentration, maybe he was constantly double covered so they were tougher catches. He does have a high average, so the percentage would usually be lower. Ultimately, it's probably mostly down to the fact that he just doesn't have good hands, though. A guy like that can still be a weapon (as shown by his big numbers in spite of the drops), but you hope he doesn't hurt you in the clutch. On third down, I'd perhaps be more inclined to look elsewhere. On a slight tangent, his numbers (10-139) in the first three games don't look great, but in the opener, this happened: "Quinn threw deep to Braylon Edwards, who made a tremendous catch for an apparent touchdown. However, Benny Sapp interfered with Edwards and pushed Edwards out of bounds at the six. The Vikings challenged and the touchdown was called back. " I saw this game and this was a great catch and the replay could have gone either way (he was pushed out of bounds but then appeared to re-establish himself inbounds before making the catch). 11-178-TD in four games would at least look a little better, although Stuckey himself had 11-120-TD. It could be any number of factors. Passes slightly off the mark, concentration, maybe he was constantly double covered so they were tougher catches. He does have a high average, so the percentage would usually be lower.

Ultimately, it’s probably mostly down to the fact that he just doesn’t have good hands, though. A guy like that can still be a weapon (as shown by his big numbers in spite of the drops), but you hope he doesn’t hurt you in the clutch. On third down, I’d perhaps be more inclined to look elsewhere.

On a slight tangent, his numbers (10-139) in the first three games don’t look great, but in the opener, this happened:

“Quinn threw deep to Braylon Edwards, who made a tremendous catch for an apparent touchdown. However, Benny Sapp interfered with Edwards and pushed Edwards out of bounds at the six. The Vikings challenged and the touchdown was called back. ”

I saw this game and this was a great catch and the replay could have gone either way (he was pushed out of bounds but then appeared to re-establish himself inbounds before making the catch). 11-178-TD in four games would at least look a little better, although Stuckey himself had 11-120-TD.

]]> By: Starburied http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/10/08/links-reactions-on-trade-from-cleveland-media/#comment-188263 Starburied Thu, 08 Oct 2009 14:47:49 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/10/08/links-reactions-on-trade-from-cleveland-media/#comment-188263 Bent, Agreed. That is terribly low. Everyone talks about his dropped passes but does anyone know why he drops these passes? It can't just be stone hands. Is he trying to catch off the shoulder too much? Is he worried about getting hit over the middle? Lack of OJ Isotoners? I haven't seen enough of his game play to see what his issue may be. Bent,

Agreed. That is terribly low. Everyone talks about his dropped passes but does anyone know why he drops these passes?

It can’t just be stone hands. Is he trying to catch off the shoulder too much? Is he worried about getting hit over the middle? Lack of OJ Isotoners? I haven’t seen enough of his game play to see what his issue may be.

]]> By: are-tee http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/10/08/links-reactions-on-trade-from-cleveland-media/#comment-188261 are-tee Thu, 08 Oct 2009 14:46:57 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/10/08/links-reactions-on-trade-from-cleveland-media/#comment-188261 I think Edwards' behavior could be a problem long-term, but he's in his final contract year. He'll act like a choir boy this season. I think Edwards’ behavior could be a problem long-term, but he’s in his final contract year. He’ll act like a choir boy this season.

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