The More You Know
After last week’s game, Mark Sanchez has thrown 10 interceptions on the season so far.
How many did Flacco and Ryan throw last year?
Media take note, this is your stop to get off the bus comparing Flacco and Ryan to Sanchez as rookies.
39 Responses to The More You Know
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charleyjet says:
Those guys both came of out of schools in the northeast. No matter that he denied it, Mark has to learn how to throw in the swirling winds of the Meadowlands. Manning had to learn it as a Giant and so does Mark. Growing pains.
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Bent says: It’s not looking good for the “at least he won’t throw 22 interceptions like Brett Favre” crowd either.
Let’s hope 5 in 5 games was more what we can expect and the 5 interceptions game was an aberration brought about by the missing WRs and the poor weather.
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lajetfan says:
Sanchez will be fine. Expectations were raised from the team’s overall performance the first three weeks and, due to a variety of reasons, we’re not as good as we had hoped.
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starz31 says:
Flacco’s first 6 weeks in 2008:
2 Wins – 3 Losses (BAL didn’t play in week 2 due to hurricane IKE)1 TD — 7 INTs — 12sacks — 5 fumbles (1 lost)
never went over 300 yards. under 200 yards, four times.was 90/192 in completions/attempts
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Its also seems that Sanchez is throwing the ball alot more and asked to do alot more that those 2 kids were ….especially in the first 6 games.
Maybe im wrong but can look into that?…..anything on that Bent?
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jcjets says:
8 of those 10 came in two games! I dont know if that’s better, or worse than having them spread out over the 6 games we’ve played but either way its ugly.
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Jack says:
Here’s a fun fact. Guess who the top two rushing teams in 2008 in number of attempts were.
Anybody?
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Brendan says:
ravens and falcons.
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winner, winner chicken dinner.
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AKA……..Drew
no need to ask bent on that one. you are absolutely right. i know we the identity to run, but in big spots we are asking this kid to throw the ball. on a day like yesterday, he should have been just handing off. nothing wrong with treating this kid like a rookie. i think rex’s machismo is getting in the way here of some of his coaching decisions. like not calling time out against miami, or believing he can throw the ball against buffalo in a stiff wind in OT when he had already thrown 4 picks. this hurts. but this is what we have to go through. it’s going to take a few years. he’s not going to be at the top next year either.
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JesusRevis says:
Guess who the league leader SHOULD be the year?
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Dave75 says:
Oh Jesus.
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Brad says:
Don’t worry too much. INTs through 6 games are not a very helpful way of predicting future performance. If you look at some high profile guys over last 10 years, the amount of picks in their first 6 rookie starts do not correlate at all with how they ended up performing. Some examples:
Peyton – 14
Eli – 8
Carr – 6
Couch – 4 -
I have said this all morning but its a lot harder to throw picks when your sticking the ball in TJ’s and Leon’s stomach for big chunks of yards….
just saying
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JETSFANW&L says:
To be fair, its only been 6 games when each of Flacco’s and Ryan’s stats are for their entire season.
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NJets says:
Jack… you have identified the key comparison. At the end of the day, the team and the coaching staff is responsible for sheltering this kid from obvious incoming implosions. They have failed miserably so far. The Falcons and the Ravens ran the ball, not because they have better RBs than the Jets, but because they were committed to winning with veterans and with a style of play that was conducive to teaching rookies how to play in the NFL. The Jets have failed as miserably as possible in Sanchez’s development and I dont know what its going to take for Schotty to finally hold some responsibility for the total lack of offensive logic.
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starz31 says:
Flacco’s first 6 weeks in 2008:
2 Wins – 3 Losses (BAL didn’t play in week 2 due to hurricane IKE)
1 TD — 7 INTs — 12sacks — 5 fumbles (1 lost)
never went over 300 yards. under 200 yards, four times.
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mole57 says:
And to think, if the West Side Stadium had been approved, the dome would have been on, Sanchez would have been able to actually throw the ball, and I wouldn’t have had to freeze my a$$ off for four hours. Export You, Sheldon Silver!
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john sec.125 says:
sheldon silver is a moron.
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Hey, it’s all good. I can now put more focus on my beloved Rangers while awaiting their inevitable meltdown into mediocrity until the Mets come around one more time to munch on my soul.
I think I’ll apply for a job with the bomb squad. If I can survive decades of this I can take anything.
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Drew says:
AKA Drew:
“Its also seems that Sanchez is throwing the ball alot more and asked to do alot more that those 2 kids were ….especially in the first 6 games.”
Agreed. While Sanchez looked good vs Miami, it appears as if he’s been asked to throw a LOT more than he was in the first couple games.
So while he’s responsible for his INT’s, the play-calling isn’t exactly positioning him to succeed.
What I don’t understand is why we’re not pounding the ball more in the 4th quarter. TJ has a career and franchise day and Leon is getting big chunks of yards all over, but Sanchez is still chucking it all over the field.
Granted, there were some drops (Keller, namely), but he should have been handing it off way more than he did.
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Always fun to see a Drew respond to AKA….Drew…lol
I just dont understand where Schotty comes up with this game plan on a day like that.
IMO we could have rushed for 400 yrds against that defense and won a boring feild position game.
Still shocking to me
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damn, Jack, at least you got the Rangers…I got the mets and Islanders…and i was at the boston bruins game in which we blew a 3-0 lead with 8 min left…lol ugh, wheres the pill bottle, JD, and the gun?
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Im with both the Drews…
Just utter shock at the game planning and lack of adjustments on Schottys part… the kid has never played in below 50 degree weather and we are throwing play action bombs to Edwards with the lead after TJ and Leon run wild all game. Im embarrassed by this coach. He is the last disgusting piece of the Mangini era… I dont understand why he is still here.
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Drew, and well, Drew,
If the Jets were smart they would run the ball 50 times against Oakland. Give Jones 25 carries, Leon 15 and Greene 10. I cant imagine Oakland being able to score on us, so why give them a chance by throwing picks? This is a power running football team, why don’t we start acting like it?
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supercooljetfan says:
im glad we didnt do the west side stadium it would of only fit 60,000 they would of made it that you can only take mass transit to the game and no tailgating…they should of put it right next door to citifield with a dome and it would of only been 10 mins from my house
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sanchez gotta learn to throw the ball in the cold sooner or later…i just feel they gotta run shorter routes more 3 step passes mixed in with runs then every once in a while you go for the homerun
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brian311 says:
is the team able to practice at giants stadium during the week? the weather report was the same all week – we knew it was going to be cold, raining, and windy. we need to get sanchez reps in the stadium, and not when the INTs he throws count. i believe they only practiced outdoors once last week. that obviously isnt going to cut it. he needs to get reps throwing in the swirling winds in the swamps of jersey
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Had it been raining, it might have been a different story. Then the Buffalo DBs may have dropped a couple of ints. But I’d wager the rain still wouldn’t have altered Schotty’s game plan.
Maybe they need to lock Sanchez in a meat locker for a few days until he gets acclimated to the cold.
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subwayfare says:
I can’t help but wonder if height is an advantage for a rookie QB playing right away. Seems like the recent wunderkinds, Rothlisberger, Ryan and Flacco are all tall pocket passers. Do they see the field better? I’m sure it has more to do with the run heavy offenses and OC’s designing plans that protect them from themselves. Drew Brees sat a year but he did hit 60 % of his throws in his first full season.
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GANGGREEN says:
Wait a sec,,,Didn’t we move up in the draft to get Sanchez with all his potential and raw talent…Why are we now going to baby and coddle him…He’s in the NFL time to grow up man…Sanchez’s problem is that he stares down his reciever so long a blind man can get the jump and intercept his passes…He’s got Braylon now so he is reminding me of Farve in the fact that he’s just throwing it up and hoping Edwards will make a play…And didn’t we draft Sanchez for his smarts and ability to throw the long ball and now Jets should handcuff him and put him in more of a shell shock…Sanchez is a work in progress and we will suffer with him until he gets into the NFL game speed inwhich he clearly is not…Slow reads,under and over throwing receivers,and heaving it up and hoping on many plays…I can understand in games we weren’t running the ball well but yesterday was not the case…i think Sanchez needs a few years of grooming before he will be NFL ready…
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scapp says:
I got to the game early yesterday, Rex Ryan was tossing the ball around to some kid (his son?).. With no effort he was throwing perfect 35 yard passes to the kid running routes all round the field… I say he should suit up for the Raiders game.. He looked pretty good!
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..Also, if I were Ryan, i’d get a coach to follow Sanchez around with a giant snowmaker (like they use in the ski slopes), blasting him in the face with cold wet snow all day long… then playing in Buffalo in December will seem balmy!
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luckily we’ll play buffalo in a dome next time around (in Toronto, that is)
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Green Lantern says:
Ryan and Flacco had WAYYY shorter leases than Sanchez as rookies.
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LanceJ says:
Without question – 2 of Sanchez’s last 3 games have been horrible. You cannot compare Sanchex to Ryan and Flacco for two reasons:
1) Both Ryan and Flacco palyed for their colleges for 4 years. Sanchez started at USC for 1.
2) the success of Ryan and Flacco are not ordinary for rookies. Many QB’s who are now in the HOF and will be in the HOF struggled mightily in their 1st season.
Peyton Manning 28 int’s
John Elway -
Terry Tate says:
While Sanchez did force throws yesterday, the offensive play calling was all wrong. I thought that Sanchez would only be asked to manage the game and let the RB’s do the work? Yesterday, Sanchez threw way too much. If the play calling was more conservative down the stretch, we would’ve had a win. Penalties also didn’t help the cause at all. Let’s see the kid bounce back next week.
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jess says:
I want to know how many pass attempts they had
Brian:
As usual, right on to call out the media on the comparisons.