What the ___ Was That?
Congrats Mark, your game yesterday not only killed one of the most brilliant games ever by a Jets running back, but also managed to go down as one of the single worst quarterback performances of all time, according to Pro Football Reference.
But what really makes Sanchez’ ineptitude so unique isn’t how bad he was, but rather how bad he was for as long as he was. Most QBs with terrible games are bad on 10 or 15 throws, but Sanchez was awful on 29 passes. Among quarterbacks with 25 pass attempts in a game since 1978, Sanchez’ -3.66 AY/A ranks as the fifth worst performance. If you adjust for era, it’s arguably one of the worst games in NFL history.
Another way to look at it — Sanchez had -106 adjusted yards. He became the third Jets QB and 31st NFL QB to have fewer than -100 adjusted yards in a game since 1978.
PFR then goes on to note some real luminaries who have had worse games, names like Lynn Dickey, Richard Todd, Jon Kitna, Dave Krieg Todd Marinovich and .. Richard Todd.
And guess who’s names don’t appear on the list … guys like Montana, Brady, Manning, Marino .. guys like that. What it doesn’t take into account is the coaches … how much brutal abuse do you let your QB take in a single game? When’s enough?
While the CBS announcers yesterday continued to talk about how the cold weather could be part of Sanchez’s bad performance, almost as a an excuse for it, it only made me more depressed. If cold weather is going to be that much of a factor for Sanchez and how he played, then the brother better start throwing passes in a cold storage facility during the week. If Sanchez hasn’t played or practiced in that sort of weather EVER, how exactly is the season going to get any better for him, if that was what was the matter? Last I checked, it only gets colder in New York during November and December.
Honestly, I think that Sanchez is a competent Quarterback, but he’s got to adjust to playing on the east coast, and quick. I think he’s got some real abilities that we’ve not seen from a Jets QB in a long time, but locking onto Edwards and making bad pass after bad pass to a terrible team doesn’t bode well for him this year.
We’re on the edge of the knife here with Sanchez right now, in my opinion. I understand why coaches want to play young QBs that the team went up to get, but confidence killers like yesterday’s loss to the Bills (THE F***ING BILLS!?!?!?!) can be galvanizing, or utterly destructive. Cimini noted that Sanchez was “on the verge of tears” … I just don’t know which we’ve just seen. Do you?
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B Schott is the reason he was bad for as long as he was….usually an OC will see that its just not the QB’s day and stick with ummm… the dominate running game that rushed for over 300 yrds!!
i saw Sanchez come back and play his ass off on the road against Miami after melting down againt the Saints.
I am not worried about this kids mental situation. he asnwered the questions the way a guy who just played horribly would after letting his teamates down.
Was it any different than Rex’s post game after the miami game?
The kid will be fine.
i put 100% of the blame for the L on schotty / rex ryan. as soon as they say the weather report, they should have come up with a game plan that limited sanchez to 15-20 pass attempts. thers no WAY he should have thrown the ball nearly 30 times. simply unacceptable and terrible coaching / game planning
this reminded me of the seattle game last year when we had mr wrangler jeans throwing the ball all over the field when a grind it out, running / field position game would have gotten the job done
schotty has to realize the kid is 22. put the kid in positions to succeed, not FAIL.
horrendous.
I am definitely worried about Sanchez in the cold.
He sure did bounce back in Miami, but the weather conditions weren’t exactly adverse there.
I’m NOT giving up on him. Heck no. But I AM a bit worried. Heck yes.
As for Schotty… He should be ashamed of himself. He has no excuse. None.
exactly, schotty made no adjustements yesterday. its not like Sancehz was throwing the ball great in the 1rst half and then imploded, he never was playing well, and then with the game on the line, after some huge INTs…well, lets THROW SOME MORE.. lol its comical at this point.
He was missing open guys in the 4th and OT on short passes though, so I cant blame Schotty there. But change things up, get him on some roll-outs or something, anything, just whatever it was that you were doing, it wasn’t calming Sanchez down at all.
also no where in the above article does it mention that his teammates offered sanchex NO help at all. by my count, keller alone had at least 3 drops on easy completions. 2 of the picks were tipped passes that the receivers could have done a better job of either catching, or making sure they fell incomplete
the penalties were also horrendous. come on d’brick, we cant have you false starting against the freakin BILLS at home.
this game was so frustrating on so many levels, it would probably take all day to list them out
As bad as Sanchez played yesterday, I don’t think you can put all the blame on him and I think his line makes him look worse than he actually played. 2 of his 5 picks were balls that hit off of Braylon Edwards’ hands. The other 3 were ill-advised throws that he never should have let go, but if Edwards times his jump on the deep ball, the safety doesn’t pick it. You also have to take into account how terrible Keller was yesterday; he had to have dropped 5 passes. I’m not trying to say Sanchez had a good day, because he didn’t and he made some really poor decisions, but you have to say that he didn’t get all that much help from his receivers. His 2 worst plays of the night were the past pick and the sack he took at the end of the 4th quarter, but I think these are the kinds of mistakes he’ll learn not to make with experience. I also feel that there was some pretty poor play calling towards the end of the game. Jones and Washington rushed for over 300 yards yesterday so why would the Jets even think about passing the ball on 1st or 2nd down. Combine this with the double digit penalties the Jets had yesterday and it makes for an all around awful performance, not just a bad day by the QB.
I agree, the biggest problem for the Jets right now is B Schott. A change just has to be made there or this team are going to continue going nowhere.
Personally I don’t think you can bench the kid yet. If you leave him out there to take his lumps in a game like that, what message is it sending to him to drop him for the next game. If you drop him now, who are you going to have in his place? Clemens? Please, he couldn’t get a game when Favre was busy stinking the place up (granted, I wouldn’t want to be the one to tell Brett he’d be warming the bench, but still….)
Let Sanchez learn this year. At the very minimum let him get to the bye and take another look then.
After sacking Schotty, Rex REALLY has to do something about the number of penalties the team are getting right now. That level of indiscipline is just a disgrace. I understand that in the kind of D he wants to run, there are going to be a couple of penalties here and there, fine, if it means sacks and pressure, I’ll take that trade. But right now it doesn’t. It just means free yards to the opposition. PAH!
Still. It can only get better, right?
I mean, we’re 3-3, not 0-6.
the Cimini post notes how Sanchez didnt once blame the conditions on his performance, in fact and sadly, he said he had not trouble gripping the ball, etc. he just sucked. Simple as that. Some times players dont have it, and after making some mistakes, it snowballed on him. I wasn’t thinking about pulling him yesterday, but all the points i just made would suggest that maybe pulling him was necessary.
With Sanchez playing that badly well into the fourth quarter yesterday, he should have been pulled for Clemens. I’m not saying that Clemens therefore should have been the starter for this Sunday had the Jets pulled it out, but, you play to win, and there’s NO way Clemens would have been worse than Sanchez yesterday. Bad, bad job by Rex and Schotty. Every practice this week needs to be outside, or failing that, Sanchez better be out on his own outside running routes with the WRs.
i didnt want to pull Sanchez but i would be lying if i didnt think about it in the 3rd quarter after another pick.
It was probably the right move to stick with him. Ryan chose him in training camp and we might have won the game but lost the war kind of deal with that.
The kid has to learn to play better even when he is taking it on the chin.
Was it Schott reading the defense and forcing throws off his front foot while scrambling? Sanchez had a lot of time yesterday against a very good D-line. He was just rushing throws, getting happy feet, locking onto a single receiver, and forcing throws into coverage. Rookie stuff, but on almost all those horrible tosses there was a safer option open underneath. Sanchez should have been checking down all game, not just on 3rd and longggggggggggg’s.
The offense’s split was 60/40 in favor of the run, so it’s not like his play calling was pass heavy.
I felt bad for Sanchez more than I felt annoyed at him. I mean, he’s got to make plays, but to me it didn’t seem like his coaches put him in a position to win.
I was at the game yesterday. Im just glad i was so obliviously drunk that its all a blur.. What a miserable long ride home it was to Long Island..
KISS- Keep It Simple Schotty.
I would definitely take Callahan over Schotty right now.
i was there…and usually i tivo the games i go to….so i can watch a day later to see the flow of the game….see how bad some penalty calls were…. and i was told the illegal contact call on the revis pick was weak…..
i didnt tivo this one…thankfully….
and of course we all think we know more then the coaches….say they suck…..but even being there, and not watching the game on tv….i could tell the play calling sucked….in terms of flow and overall smartness.
sanchez cant be asked to throw 29 times in those conditions when we are running it that well. YES we have to throw b/c the defense is gonna eventually sell out the run….so then it obviously falls on the QB as well to make better decisions.
yes the challenge sucked…what moron even told rex that the guy stepped out….. and calling timeout to try to draw the bills offsides….THEN taking a 5 yard penalty that turned a 36 yarder into a 41 yarder was even more moronic….thankfully feely made the kick.
14 penaltiies is a f—ing joke…..
and someone in the weiss recap post asked “where was keller”….. guess he didnt watch the game that closely…b/c he made a big catch early…had a big drop late…and was targetted several times…..10 according to the boxscore…including several forced throws like a deep one late……so dont ask stupid questions like that when the guy was targetted 10 freaking times please.
and we ran a pump and go….and a medium length slant….TO LEON!!! who the hell runs a slant to his running back……. get him in space…screens…dump offs….not pump and go’s and slants u ass…..
game was winnable….the OT hold that killed a chip shot QB i was told was legit….and we all certainly would have accepted an ugly loss…..
but this week should be about discipline….go out and win the raider game, then come home and remember what miami did to us 2 weeks ago.
listening to brandon tierney right now….wondering if they should bench sanchez….. such a loser. cant bench him now u moron….. another game like yesterday then u might do it during a game……but his bad game falls on everyone….not just sanchez.
have a good week all…..
It’s not the play calling its Sanchez throwing 5 picks, thats insane, his body language was defeated yesterday and adding to this Jenks is out for the year. I’m not sure how we can recover from all of that, But we know Oakland is a must win game. It seems like seasons ago that we beat the patriots are were rolling. Defense looks average sanchez looks like he is lost, Just like his coach. I just wish everyone could get on the same page, cuz then we might actually be good.
Haha it is so fun to read these posts. The kid stunk ! The coaching stunk1 THE SEASON IS OVER!
its pretty funny reading your posts reality jet fan…itll be even more fun when you stop posting.
sanchez and keller better start staying late after practice and figure out a way to get on the same page….must say looked like wayne hunter played pretty well for woody…and why every frickin play is number 75 an eligible receiver just call normal plays schotty and stop with the eligible receiver crap its annoying
I’m so disgusted by that performance that I can barely get myself to get involved in any discussion today but i think its time to just flat out start the Bill Callahan for OC movement. Its despicable that Sanchez was put in that position yesterday… ESPECIALLY after the way we were running the ball. Just utterly disgusting performance by a coach that clearly thinks hes playing Madden or something other than Pro Football. Rex needs to take control of this team NOW… even he could cal a better offensive game than Schotty at this point. Anyone with a pair of eyes would know to keep trouncing them with the run until they stop it. THEY WERENT STOPPING IT… thats the saddest part. We decided to air it out on a day when airing it out should of been the last option. Screens, short passes, and RUNS ALL DAY. Schotty is the last, disgusting, piece left of the Mangini era and until he goes, I guess we are still gonna play like that era.
Rusty: Schott put a guard at TE to block for runners. Keller, for everything else he’s usually good for, doesn’t block well. Maybe putting in a tackle at TE telegraphs the play so that the defense can sell out against the run, but that wasn’t the problem we were having yesterday.
rusty – Putting 75 in as an eligible receiver was so the Jets could get an extra offensive lineman in to block for our run plays, which I didn’t think was a bad idea considering how well we ran the ball yesterday.
devean – the only time the defense has looked average was against the dolphins. There are times, I admit, when I’m watching the game and I ask myself where this “great defense” is, especially when you look at the lack of sacks they’ve had. But, when it comes down to it, they only gave up 16 points yesterday in 5 quarters and have been great in keeping points off the board with the exception of miami.
Yeah – all Schotty’s fault, running game only produced 40 carries for 318 yards. Schotty’s fault that on at least 8 incompletions, receivers were wide open and the QB made horrendous throws.
After a horrible ride home after the game, I thought: can it really get any worse? I mean, I think what your stats show is that he really can’t play much worse than he did against the bills. And given that, we went into OT (and nearly one if not for a stupid hold and a botched kick).
I thought the same thing against the Saints, too (I guess I was wrong), but like Rex said, he’s not going to be perfect. Let’s get the bumps out early and maybe go into our bye week at 5-3?
You have to love the people who think we should start Clemens. For what?? Maybe he’ll win one of those three games we lost (probably two), but he likely wouldn’t have won against NE or Tenn, and Clemens is not going to be the future of this organization.
Being said, shoulda pulled Marky Mark after int #4. He was an emotional mess.
Toon,
Sanchez threw too many times. Why go away from a running game that was working so well?
It’s Schotty’s fault that after the 2nd… even 3rd interception, that he didn’t stick with the run that was working so well.
That’s his fault.
sorry, “nearly won” not one.
You guys have to realize you can’t run every play. We have to pass. 60/40 is more than acceptable as a ratio. What is unacceptable is having receivers drop the few good passes that get thrown, and sanchez forcing one footed Favre gunslingers without favre’s gunslinger arm.
The Jets (AKA Same Old Jets) are dead to me. They’ve played a lot of clunkers at home vs Bills, but this one was inexcusable. As a TEAM (coaches & players), nothing short of a team-wide case of food poisoning can be used as an excuse. Sanchez throws 5 picks? Where were the coaches to help him (Shotty by coaching him during the week and Rex by not pulling him after 3 INT’s)? Jets only give up 13 points in regulation? The D should have scored 21 by themselves against that rag-tag Bills offense (with a backup QB). Unfortunately, football is a TEAM game, and this was a TEAM effort. By an absolutely lousy football TEAM. SOJ.
hey rex ryan this is jet football!
only positive pom pom waving fans should post?
Mike: I understand that they played well yesterday but got no pressure, and we just need to step up even further, all reports say Jenkins is done for the year. Now the defense will really be average without him. Did anyone disagree with that awful illegal contact on Lito on the bills TD drive which he picked the ball off. Even the announcers were saying it was bad. Not the reason we lost with 14 penalties and 6 TO, but that was bull
Play-calling. Simple as that. The OC does not adjust, has short-sighted gameplans, and does not maximize the abilities of this offense.
As mentioned several times already, it’s utterly unacceptable that Schott allowed Sanchez to throw the ball that many times, particularly some of those deep balls at certain points of the game just when the running game was accumulating 1st downs.
WHY? ALL the passes on Sunday should have been of the short-to-medium range variety, with a few screens to Leon thrown into the mix…
The game would have been won EASILY had he simply followed a more conservative approach and not force his 22-yr old rookie QB to throw deep into the wind.
I mean, one would think after even the THIRD INT that Schott would play it close to the vest and just let his running game win for them. But No.
The OC has to go.
It should be added though that despite the bad offensive playcalling and INTs, we STILL WOULD HAVE WON if not for the penalties. We could have even won with 10 of those penalties, but there were 1 or 2 in crucial situations of yesterday’s game that killed us [the Hartstock hold in Overtime seems the most glaring].
Rex needs to improve the discipline.
But bottom line, the OC just flat out needs to be replaced.
I’m trying to think when was the last time the Jets won a game that started at 4pm. They lost both 4pm starts this season, all six 4pm starts last season, and I think all four of their wins in 2007 were at 1pm (unless the KC game was at four — can’t remember). When does this become statistically significant vs. just being an aberration?
WOW! we are in for a long year.
Mole57
I was saying the same exact thing yesterday. After explaining why I hate the 4pm start to a buddy. I couldnt remember what was the last 4pm win?
Its was almost weird reading what you wrote…..lol
I understand you guys have a hard-on for Schotty – but Jesus – the play calling had nothing to do with this.
The bottom line is that we had a QB who acted like his team was down 20 and couldn’t get the running game going, when in fact they were up 10 and couldn’t be stopped on the ground. He’s gotta learn to throw the ball away or take some sacks. He let the game get inside his head today, but it won’t last.
Trying to blame this on the OC is lunacy.
December 2007 was apparently the last time they won a Sunday 4pm game. In fact, I believe they have only one win in a non-Sunday 1pm game since then (and that was in OT v the Pats).
Jets Chiefs was a 4pm game. That was an OT win too, right?
So other than Sunday 1pm games, the Jets are winless in regulation since 2006. (MNF win over Miami).
Well guys we better figure it out, cuz Oakland= 4pm. But i agree with that I was thinking that as well.
hey we bought our tickets we knew what we were getting into…..i say let them CRASH!
you probably have to be over 35 to get that one!
put a fork in us, and the hype, were done and done once again, dogs breakfast, fittingly on a monday morning
SteveT
This is where an OC has to understand that his 22 yr old rookie playing in new conditions with only 16 career starts has to control the game by his play calling….
To not lay any blame at Schott’s game management or play calling is being blind to the situation…
For the record i am usually giving B Schott a fair shake and have always remembered his nice work from 2006.
Brian:
I trully believed that Franchez was ready to cry during his presser. He looked insipid with his woolly hat over his ears on the bench, he looked…….small !!
Spent miles hit the freking nail RIGH ON THE HEAD. For those that missed or refused to finish reading, here are his comments:
spentmiles, on October 19th, 2009 at 9:07 am Said:
Sanchez is proving himself to be an interception machine. Jenkins is out for the season. We can’t beat the worst team in the league on our own field. Oh wait, to play the worst team in the league we’d have to play ourselves. But, on the bright side, at least the letdown is coming early this year, though I’m not sure what’s worse: seeing a nose dive at the end of the season or suffering through another 3 and 13 debacle.
Now the question becomes, do we try to salvage the season by putting in Clemens, or do we give the rookie time to learn and write off the year? I vote to keep Sanchez. I’m morbidly curious to see how bad it can possibly get. I have a feeling that we are going to see him cry on the sidelines at some point. Not one of those single-tear-running-down-his-cheek cry either. I’m talking uncontrollable sobbing to the point that his mom comes down from the stands and takes him home in the middle of the game.
At this point in time, I don’t think Sanchez has what it takes to be an NFL quarterback. And what’s worse, is I don’t think he has the emotional fortitude to suck at his lifelong dream. It’s just a matter of time before his frustration reveals itself.
Bill Callahan for OC… thats all im saying… we need someone who specializes in running the ball run our offense. Anyone with a pair of eyes would of just known to run the ball last night and Schotty just couldnt contain himself. He had to let a shaken kid go down the field. Schotty is the last disgusting piece left of the Mangini era. Until he is gone, we are never fully beyond that coaching style.
what was once, “lets name this defence” became the prancing off off off broadway grandmothers revue. i could have 2 stepped around some of the tackles we missed, …. for free
the rookie got us 13, should have been enough, not including the bizarre crap that is football. maybe we do something next year
we got beat by another second string qb. you cant sugar coat this. this is diabolically horrendous.
im done, i hate sports, see you next weekend.
sorry hank, i disagree. Its just not that easy to make judgement on our season or his career on how he played yesterday. I responded already to that comment earlier in this thread.
And if they hadn’t moved the Tennessee game up to 1pm from 4pm, maybe we’d be 2-4 right now. (Hey, didn’t we hit our skid last year after beating NE and Tennessee in back-to-back games, when we refused to pull our INT-heaving QB? Those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it.)
JohnL
It looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue!!!
Anyone who doesn’t see the horrible play calling, and lack of adjusting to the game by our OC hasn’t been watching for the last few years.
Schotty seems to never go with what works. His play calling doesn’t have any flow, or sense to it. It just seems like he randomly picks plays. Last year there was probably tons of games where his play calling sucked.. but the one the sticks out the most was the game in bad conditions, snow, wind. ect.. he starts doing his ‘cute’ double reverse calls. A game where we should have been pounding the run – just like yesterday…. pound run, sprinkle in some short passes here and there. Not deep passes when your QB is having a terrible game already. He basically threw sanchez under a bus.
Just wait till it snows this year, and it’s windy out, and he calls a double reverse flee flicker lol
For anyone who’s even thinking about giving up on Sanchez yet, just remember what fans were saying about a few other QB’s during their rookie season (and even into their 2nd / 3rd seasons in most cases):
Eli – “He’s got a deer-in headlights look. He’s too mechanical. He doesn’t show any emotion.”
Brees – “He’s too small, too inconsistent, and his arm isn’t strong enough.”
Peyton – “He can beat the bad teams, but he chokes against good defenses.”
McNabb – “He’s not smart enough to learn the WC offense. He takes too long to make decisions.”
Ease up on Sanchez already. Rookie NFL QB is the most overwhelming job in all of sports. We stick with him, we let him learn, and hopefully keep growing towards becoming a championship-caliber QB.
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Dolfan…correct me if I’m wrong, but the fins are still under .500 right?
i have to agree on alot of points here. Stay with the running game, shotty not changing game plan,…
You don’t pull Sanchez. You don’t hit the panic button 6 games into his first year.
He wasn’t making the same mistakes he was two weeks ago. he was looking off defenders and pump faking rather well. it was his decision making that stuck yesterday, asking too much out of Edwards and being asked to throw 29 times when the ground and pound was working so well.
Yes, Sanchez lost the game again like he did against NO. It was his picks that gave the Bills 10 points on the board. But he came back into practice worked hard and corrected those mistakes. Had a good game against Miami. It was the D on that one. There’s no reason to think he will not do that this week. You show me a pattern emerge here and i’ll listen, but knee jerk reactions are for the Media to sell papers not for coaches to make decisions.
Please don’t respond to trolls.
Just when i think I have hit rock bottom…. A fonzie or Hank/Naples post gets me right back on track.
This is what comes with a rookie QB…There will be highs and there will be lows. This is another reason B Schott has got to understand the flow of a game something he seems to forget when his RBs and OL are kicking the crap out of a defense.
I am not throwing in the towel on anything this season. As depressed and disgusted I am right now…. we can have a successful season
Lets not forget fair weahter fans…..withour Sanchez we probably get blown out in miami last week.
The kid is inconsistent right now…. ummm something we should have all expected with a 16 career start rookie QB.
Now when the kid is handing out picks like candy on Halloweeen…..YOU RUN THE EFFING BALL!!!!!! Especially when you throw down a 300 spot on the opposing defense on the ground!
Anyone who is ready to quit on the season, please do. Fair weather fans aren’t needed on this ride. Last year people wondered if the Cardinals would even make the playoffs, and they were one play away from winning the Superbowl. We are 3-3 and one game out of first place. Yes, our ship is taking on water, but I’d rather stay aboard and ride it out than jump ship.
Anyone who complains about the defense gets their fan card taken away from them. This is all on the QB, receivers, and coaching. Drop balls, errant throws, mismanaged game clock and challenges, and a TON of penalties. These are all idiotic mistakes to have to deal with, but most are easily correctable.
shotty is to blame for this one. they have to get him into a riddim every game. not one screen pass called on sunday, with back like the one we have, come on man!? we need a new play caller! for real!
you’re complaining about screens? The Jets Rb’s combined for 373 all-purpose yards (not counting Leon’s kick returns). Notttt really sure that was the issue.
starz31;
Look, I trully understand the feelings and opinions of the fans, specially dificult times like today.
But you must understand the churning, convulsive, gut wrenching feeling of disappointment I have after watching, and SCREAMING about the damage this Owner and his suck-up have done to a hugely promising Jets team since the second game of last year’s pre-season.
The future looked, not promised, great!! Then these two Jerks DESTROY whatever team chemistry was starting to build, then the following year destroy even further our chances to rebuild/replenish the team with our young talent.
I have said from day one that the trade for three players giving up five players was not only inequitable, but deprive the team the ability to replenish/rebuild. I have stated before and I’ll say it again, Franchez does NOT convince me as an NFL QB because he doesn’t appear to have ” TESTICAL FORTITUDE and has serious flaws !!!
I have accused Woody and his Suck-up of orchestrating this trade mostly a a PR move to reach the Spanish market, period.
Think about it. We have given up TWELVE (12)players ( draft choices and or players) only to get back THREE (3) players. Looking back, where we are now, and towards the future, please tell me how we are right !!!!!
Guys…come on now. We’ve lost 3 in a row and are still only 1 game back of the Pats. All hope is not lost. The ship can be righted.
Losing Jenkins is a huge blow, but Rex has the smarts to change things around to give the defense a chance. The Franchez can only get better from here right? (please tell me I’m right on this!).
B. Schott just needs to start calling a passing game that allows Sanchez to find a comfort zone and build up some confidence.
starz31,
Isn’t schotty’s play calling also taking the loss and telling the media that it was responsible for the loss on sunday? Isn’t it the GOLDEN BOY third game in which he blames the loss on himself? Or is the GOLDEN BOY just looking good for the cameras and keep giving us hope that maybe next game he will do better?
Is it me or do the jets run the same five plays over and over! Schotty is horrible why does he get so much credit. He runs one of the most predictable games in the league. No imagination no adjustments, really are there only five plays in the jets attack? And all this talk about how great the o line is supposed to be because they are all #1 draft choices. They stink. They dont push any defences around it’s like they have lead feet. They certainly don’t protect Sanchez. As for the defence thats so great…where the pressure last in the league in sacks! That means every QB they play picks up the Blitz and handles it. That means the D is fooling no one! I am ebarrased to call myself a jet fan today. just utter BS from yet again another lack luster jet team!
Also forgive my spelling errors I’m just so pissed today!
The season is not over, Jets are 3-3.
Sanchez is 22 and used to playing in Southern California. Yesterday was NFL game #6 for him. He will learn to play in the cold.
If you play him then you live by the rookie and die by the rookie.(Peyton Manning was 3-13 first year, 13-3 his second)
Call different plays to play to Jets strengths and opponents weaknesses.
The D needs to tighten up, the loss to Miami exposed some holes.
Other than the Saints game (arguably the best team in football right now) the Jets have been in every game that they lost right up until the end. Ryan knows what he is doing, he can turn it around.
Yesterday was ugly, but the season ain’t over yet.
Chris,
I’m frustrated too, but the Jets O-Line played well yesterday. I agree with you on mostly everything else.
I dont blame Sanchez much. The kid is a rookie playing with limited weapons, putting a ton of pressure on himself, and in bad conditions.
The blame squarely falls on the shoulders of Rex and that idiot he has for an OC. How in the world you have a guy that is just mentally destroyed throwing the ball 30 times in a 13-13 game when you run for over 300 f’n yards is beyond me. That was perhaps the worst coaching gameplan in the last decade. No other coach in the NFL would have allowed their rookie to implode like that. None. They would have run the ball or thrown the ball 2 yards at a time, that it.
Look at it this way, the Oakland Raiders have the worst coaching staff in the world. They have arguably the worse starting QB in the last 25 years, but he is young and they dont want to totally ruin him. When they fell down by nearly 30 points to the Giants in the first 15 minutes did they throw the ball 50 times to allow him to be on the losing end of a 70-7 blowout? No. They threw it 13 times because he sucked and they knew he had no hope. Our guy looked worse than Russell maybe ever has yet they called throw after throw after throw in a tie game. And not dinks and dunks. Everything was long and it was against a team that plays cover 2 and zones everything to keep the big play from happening.
Our coaches are just bad. When you see the game situations and the playcalling leading up to them it is as if Rex and Schott dont even talk these things over. 3rd and 4 and the decision is pass makes zero sense when your coach has already made the decision to go for it on 4th down. The Jets should have fired Schottenheimer with Mangini and Rex needs to start paying some attention to the offense.
I absolutly hate the pats but there system seems to work no matter what QB is at the helm. Yeah we beat them but have they lost two in a row this year. 10 and 6 without Brady last year. The reason ,they keep it simple and use there streagnths. Our streangth is the running game, has to be with Jones and Washington in the back field. Two good RB’s with most teams would take a huge burden off of a young QB. Here is when I disagree with Revis on his comment to mine. The O line although they had an ok performance, they don’t seem to impose there will on the D or any D this year. They don’t dictate the game! It really was the skill of Jones and Wahington that got all that yardage yesterday not really the o-line. The jets did not grind or wear down the Bills like in seasons past. I feel like the Jets don’t know who they are on offence. I blame schott for that.
I agree with a lot of whats being said here..here is what I think the major issues are:
1. Schotty should have run it down their throat in the fourth like Miami did against the Jets. I couldn’t fathom why the F he kept calling pass plays. Shotty is a bush league OC, couldn’t believe Rex kept him at first but I hoped deep down it was all Mangina and not Shotty. He bad beat get rid of him
2. The penalties are ridiculous. As someone said it might be worth it if we are getting pressure and sacks, but we aren’t….at all. I think the last time we had a high pressure/high sack game was against New England (that wont get better with Jenkins gone)…clean it up Rex
3. Calling timeouts, challenging plays, clock management….what is going on? What is Herm Edwards coaching again….again clean it up Rex
4. They should’ve managed Sanchez better, I knew that Sanchez was having a piss poor day after the first series…where was Shotty there. But don’t blame Sanchez, he’s young and he’s gonna have some ruts. The only reason this one was so bad was because how poorly Shotty managed the game and Sanchez
5. Finally I have to jam on Sanchez for one thing. Mark..every defense in the NFL..and even the UFL…knows exactly where you are throwing the ball. I don’t know exactly what your doing, one I’m not on the field and two i’m not a defensive back….but I’m also not retarded. You have to be staring at these guys for long enough for a defensive back..or lineman for that matter…to stop what they are doing, redirect, and pick you off. It’s happening all the time now, get a trainer, coach, or watch one of those how to be a better quarterback videos
It is never a good idea to have your OC be a “leftover” from the last “Coaching Administration”. Rex kept Schotty….now you see the results. Schotty threw Sanchez under the bus in the Bills game. The Jets were averaging 8 yards a carry and you allow a rookie quarterback throw more than 25 times (in weather and wind that Sanchez has never experienced)!!!! Rex is also at fault since he didn’t do anything about it. As always, a Jet fan should not get too excited nor too depressed…as the say in golf “is par for the course”
Once we saw how the team was playing we all “knew” deep in our hearts that the Jets were going to lose. I seen it over and over again in the last 40 years. The Jets don’t need a new quarterback, or a new coach what I realize they need is a “Exorcism”. I think in the next draft we should draft an excellent high performance “Voodo Doctor”. I believe that is the only way we can get rid of the “Spell”.
As for Rex – “When you win don’t say anything, when you lose say even less” (Paul Brown)
the only people I give credit to are those who say fire schotty….my sister knows his play calling…
1st down – up the middle to Thomas “one-yard” Jones
2nd down – up the middle to Thomas “one-yard” Jones
3rd down – a 4 yard pass which is either knocked down or caught and tackled immediately
OVER AND OVER AND OVER…
SCHOTTY IS HORRRRRRRRRRIBBBBLLE..he is everything wrong with this team..and I don’t get how Woody doesnt see it…Tannenbaum is having gay sex with Schotty – thats the only way i can justify it
i don’t care if he threw 5 INT, when your team runs the ball for over 300 yards…WHY STOP!!??? the shocking part is Sanchez had his worst game and we still almost won. penalties and poor play calling lost the game for us. no holding call at the end and we’re 4-2.
that was ridiculous.