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		<title>By: Wise Old Jet Fan</title>
		<link>http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/10/20/link-needless-speculation/comment-page-3/#comment-194220</link>
		<dc:creator>Wise Old Jet Fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 16:27:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Harlis, obviously Mr. T agrees with you, we will know soon enough who was correct.

We have different perspectives on this season, to me it ended when Jenkins was carted off. 

My goal is to win a Super Bowl, Mr. T went &quot;all in&quot; when he acquired Edwards, and I believe the slim chances of that happening ended with Jenkins injury. He is the MVP of the defense and like it or not they are going to miss him big time.

I really dont care if they win nine games or six games, and would rather bring something back for Jones while getting Greene started in his NFL career. Jones big game was an aberration vs. a horrible run defense.

Like QB&#039;s most RB&#039;s need an adjustment period before succeeding in the NFL, may as well get Shonn&#039;s behind him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Harlis, obviously Mr. T agrees with you, we will know soon enough who was correct.</p>
<p>We have different perspectives on this season, to me it ended when Jenkins was carted off. </p>
<p>My goal is to win a Super Bowl, Mr. T went &#8220;all in&#8221; when he acquired Edwards, and I believe the slim chances of that happening ended with Jenkins injury. He is the MVP of the defense and like it or not they are going to miss him big time.</p>
<p>I really dont care if they win nine games or six games, and would rather bring something back for Jones while getting Greene started in his NFL career. Jones big game was an aberration vs. a horrible run defense.</p>
<p>Like QB&#8217;s most RB&#8217;s need an adjustment period before succeeding in the NFL, may as well get Shonn&#8217;s behind him.</p>
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		<title>By: Harvlis</title>
		<link>http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/10/20/link-needless-speculation/comment-page-3/#comment-194040</link>
		<dc:creator>Harvlis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 19:24:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unwise Old Jet Fan,

If you don&#039;t think that Thomas Jones is our best every down running back, what team are you watching?   Were you with us last year, when Jones led the AFC in rushing and was the starting running back for the AFC in the Pro Bowl.   How about the Bills game, was it my imagination or did he set the Jet record for rushing in a single game?  

As for trading him -- we are one game out of first place in our division.  We play all of our division rivals again.   Our defense had one bad game, Miami, and we still should have won that game.   Why would we trade our best back &quot;by far&quot;, when the season is far from over.   

I am excited about Shonn Greene, as well but, the only thing he has done is get hurt repeatedly.   TJ is an iron man.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unwise Old Jet Fan,</p>
<p>If you don&#8217;t think that Thomas Jones is our best every down running back, what team are you watching?   Were you with us last year, when Jones led the AFC in rushing and was the starting running back for the AFC in the Pro Bowl.   How about the Bills game, was it my imagination or did he set the Jet record for rushing in a single game?  </p>
<p>As for trading him &#8212; we are one game out of first place in our division.  We play all of our division rivals again.   Our defense had one bad game, Miami, and we still should have won that game.   Why would we trade our best back &#8220;by far&#8221;, when the season is far from over.   </p>
<p>I am excited about Shonn Greene, as well but, the only thing he has done is get hurt repeatedly.   TJ is an iron man.</p>
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		<title>By: GANGGREEN</title>
		<link>http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/10/20/link-needless-speculation/comment-page-3/#comment-193922</link>
		<dc:creator>GANGGREEN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 14:47:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its not the fact that the Jets are 3-3 but more so that they have lost the last 3 in a row...Injuries are piling up and Sanchez is going through the growing pain of a rookie QB...The suprising thing this year is that what most Jets fans banked on was stability at the OL and DL and that is not the case..Both sides of our trenches have lacked consistent solid play....Sanchez while shining at times is finding that good defensive teams adjust and adapt finding ways to bait him into throws that maybe he could make at the collegic level but DB&#039;s are making him pay in the NFL..I am definitley not a Clemens fan but at this point I think it is time to put him in due to the fact of his time in the league,knowledge of the offense,and fact that he can be a game manager...With all the consistency problems on offense and defense stability at the QB position is a must...Its tuff enough to win week to week for this inconsistent Jet team but turning the ball over the way we have is outrageous...And to think that with all the turnovers we have had on offense we are still in games in the 4th quarter is something to be positve about...If this Jet team turns it around and wins the turnover battle week to week WE WILL WIN GAMES...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its not the fact that the Jets are 3-3 but more so that they have lost the last 3 in a row&#8230;Injuries are piling up and Sanchez is going through the growing pain of a rookie QB&#8230;The suprising thing this year is that what most Jets fans banked on was stability at the OL and DL and that is not the case..Both sides of our trenches have lacked consistent solid play&#8230;.Sanchez while shining at times is finding that good defensive teams adjust and adapt finding ways to bait him into throws that maybe he could make at the collegic level but DB&#8217;s are making him pay in the NFL..I am definitley not a Clemens fan but at this point I think it is time to put him in due to the fact of his time in the league,knowledge of the offense,and fact that he can be a game manager&#8230;With all the consistency problems on offense and defense stability at the QB position is a must&#8230;Its tuff enough to win week to week for this inconsistent Jet team but turning the ball over the way we have is outrageous&#8230;And to think that with all the turnovers we have had on offense we are still in games in the 4th quarter is something to be positve about&#8230;If this Jet team turns it around and wins the turnover battle week to week WE WILL WIN GAMES&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: AKA....Drew</title>
		<link>http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/10/20/link-needless-speculation/comment-page-3/#comment-193895</link>
		<dc:creator>AKA....Drew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 12:49:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WOJF

I would rather see TJ walk after the season than give him up for a 6th this year. I am not saying we are making the SB but i dont want to &quot;hope&quot; Greene and Leon are ready to carry the load while our rookie QB gets smashed for the lack of running game.

You let TJ get his yards and all 3 carry the load to help get our Qb back to just winning games and not making so many mistakes.

Its more about Sanchez than it is about a 6th round pick..... So while you talk about being short sighted you might want to realize that protecting our QB is the real reason you dont trade TJ ....not really about TJ&#039;s stats.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WOJF</p>
<p>I would rather see TJ walk after the season than give him up for a 6th this year. I am not saying we are making the SB but i dont want to &#8220;hope&#8221; Greene and Leon are ready to carry the load while our rookie QB gets smashed for the lack of running game.</p>
<p>You let TJ get his yards and all 3 carry the load to help get our Qb back to just winning games and not making so many mistakes.</p>
<p>Its more about Sanchez than it is about a 6th round pick&#8230;.. So while you talk about being short sighted you might want to realize that protecting our QB is the real reason you dont trade TJ &#8230;.not really about TJ&#8217;s stats.</p>
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		<title>By: Wise Old Jet Fan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wise Old Jet Fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 12:19:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Harvis wrote &quot;PS – Those of you calling to trade Thomas Jones are xxxxxxed up. Why would you trade an outstanding running back when, he is, by far, the best back we have and we would probably get nothing in return. Makes absolutely no sense.&quot;

While I completely disagree with your premise that he is &quot;by far the best back we have&quot; I will answer since I raised the issue to begin with (does not matter, he was not trade, I know).

NEWFLASH - The Jets are NOT winning the Super Bowl this year, and probably, but not definately, making the playoffs with the MVP out for the year.

Jones is a terrific runner that I admire, but of all the Jets vets he was the most tradeable entitiy because of his contract status and recent excellent performance. And his heir apparent is in place, healthy and ready to begin getting the work that is needed to develop a running back (same argument for continuing to play Sanchez applies to Greene).

At some point, you have to stop worrying about next week and think about the big picture, and in the grand scheme of building a football team draft picks are valuable, and they have too few next season.

So you take the best offer for him. 

They did not and all of those opposing his trade will realize I was right (as I also was with Pennington in the same situation in 2007) when Greene is getting his reps by Week 10 and TJ walks for nothing next season.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Harvis wrote &#8220;PS – Those of you calling to trade Thomas Jones are xxxxxxed up. Why would you trade an outstanding running back when, he is, by far, the best back we have and we would probably get nothing in return. Makes absolutely no sense.&#8221;</p>
<p>While I completely disagree with your premise that he is &#8220;by far the best back we have&#8221; I will answer since I raised the issue to begin with (does not matter, he was not trade, I know).</p>
<p>NEWFLASH &#8211; The Jets are NOT winning the Super Bowl this year, and probably, but not definately, making the playoffs with the MVP out for the year.</p>
<p>Jones is a terrific runner that I admire, but of all the Jets vets he was the most tradeable entitiy because of his contract status and recent excellent performance. And his heir apparent is in place, healthy and ready to begin getting the work that is needed to develop a running back (same argument for continuing to play Sanchez applies to Greene).</p>
<p>At some point, you have to stop worrying about next week and think about the big picture, and in the grand scheme of building a football team draft picks are valuable, and they have too few next season.</p>
<p>So you take the best offer for him. </p>
<p>They did not and all of those opposing his trade will realize I was right (as I also was with Pennington in the same situation in 2007) when Greene is getting his reps by Week 10 and TJ walks for nothing next season.</p>
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		<title>By: AKA....Drew</title>
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		<dc:creator>AKA....Drew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 12:01:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We saw it with the very best back this franchise has seen. Curtis Martin went from rushing title to nothing in a year or 2. Leon is a great back but is not going to carry the load for this team. A TJ replacement is vital especially when we should be running the ball 35 times a game with a rookie QB.

Drafting Greene was a smart move. As good as TJ was on Sunday he looks slower than last year and is probably not going to be here next year. Greene will have a year of NFL experience and he and Leon can share the load while TJ looks like E James on a non winning ball club somewhere.

Go show me the team that has bitgtime depth on the OL and DL. When starters get hurt ....teams struggle a bit. Depth is a thing of the past with the salary cap. 

I will say this again. Mr T has done a really good job with this franchise. For the doubters tell me how they liked the previous guys we have had?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We saw it with the very best back this franchise has seen. Curtis Martin went from rushing title to nothing in a year or 2. Leon is a great back but is not going to carry the load for this team. A TJ replacement is vital especially when we should be running the ball 35 times a game with a rookie QB.</p>
<p>Drafting Greene was a smart move. As good as TJ was on Sunday he looks slower than last year and is probably not going to be here next year. Greene will have a year of NFL experience and he and Leon can share the load while TJ looks like E James on a non winning ball club somewhere.</p>
<p>Go show me the team that has bitgtime depth on the OL and DL. When starters get hurt &#8230;.teams struggle a bit. Depth is a thing of the past with the salary cap. </p>
<p>I will say this again. Mr T has done a really good job with this franchise. For the doubters tell me how they liked the previous guys we have had?</p>
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		<title>By: hank/naples</title>
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		<dc:creator>hank/naples</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 08:36:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m glad to see some of you are comming to your senses about the value that T. Jones brings to the Jets. 
I spoke out from the very beggining against the Jets(Tann/Woody) not honoring a core players contract yet again !!!!
How can Tannenbaum not man up and honor this guy his well deserved salary.

I said that Tannenbaum had tied himself into knots, painted himself into a corner, when he gave up three draft choices for this guy as leverage of L .Washingtons NEW salary demands and TJ&#039;s fear of not geting paid (Tannenbaums history with core players) his just salary !!!

Just a sense of fairness would have resolved BOTH issues, and we would today have our line depth!!!

Take a look at our offensive team and ask yourselves; did we really need Green or could the three (3) draft choices  have been better used to back up our trenches, which everyone knew was desperately needed !!!
All you experts, again, tell me how I was dead wrong, and tell me (again) how Tannenbaum did NOT tie himself into knots on this issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad to see some of you are comming to your senses about the value that T. Jones brings to the Jets.<br />
I spoke out from the very beggining against the Jets(Tann/Woody) not honoring a core players contract yet again !!!!<br />
How can Tannenbaum not man up and honor this guy his well deserved salary.</p>
<p>I said that Tannenbaum had tied himself into knots, painted himself into a corner, when he gave up three draft choices for this guy as leverage of L .Washingtons NEW salary demands and TJ&#8217;s fear of not geting paid (Tannenbaums history with core players) his just salary !!!</p>
<p>Just a sense of fairness would have resolved BOTH issues, and we would today have our line depth!!!</p>
<p>Take a look at our offensive team and ask yourselves; did we really need Green or could the three (3) draft choices  have been better used to back up our trenches, which everyone knew was desperately needed !!!<br />
All you experts, again, tell me how I was dead wrong, and tell me (again) how Tannenbaum did NOT tie himself into knots on this issue.</p>
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		<title>By: Eddie DiGio</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eddie DiGio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 04:38:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sanchez should have until this week&#039;s game before they think about benching him.

 The real solution to the problem is give him some short easy reads to get him in a rhythm and run the freaking football like we did last week. Throw some bubble screens to a wideout or one to a back. Give him some sprint-outs with a short, intermediate and deep route. Max protect for him sometimes.  Thats exactly what the Dolphins did with Henne when they played us. Dont let him throw it where he wants to throw it, tell em where he is gonna throw it. &quot;We&#039;re trying to get the ball to JCO on this play, if they are in Cover 3 you dump it down to Leon or chuck it out of bounds. The worst that can happen is you punt the ball and play defense&quot;. And if he is still out there throwing it where ever he wants, then you yank em.

They are burdening him with too much responsibility too early. The game has to slow down for him and that takes even the greatest NFL QBs a while. The more he plays, the more he takes care of the ball, the more you let him do. He saw a lot of vanilla looks early before teams could gameplan towards his tendencies and no one had film on him yet. I mean I dont have film of my own but Id bet my life they are disguising coverage on him. You cant expect or ask him to do what Brady or Peyton does, (changing routes, calling audibles etc)

Its also on the veterans to know that they have to help this kid out. You cant drop easy passes. Keller was an absolute disgrace last week, the guy didnt even bother showing up and Ive never been so down on him.

Rex, I love the aggressiveness on the defensive side but you cant translate it to a rookie QB on offense. He has to have limits and boundaries and its on Schotty to gauge when you can take a chance or when to just be smart. If he cant do that, get rid of em. 

Its not time to bench the kid just yet, its just time to pull the reigns in and be smarter on how many chances he has to mess things up, not throw the ball down the field 30 times in the wind at the Meadowlands when you run the ball for 300 yards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sanchez should have until this week&#8217;s game before they think about benching him.</p>
<p> The real solution to the problem is give him some short easy reads to get him in a rhythm and run the freaking football like we did last week. Throw some bubble screens to a wideout or one to a back. Give him some sprint-outs with a short, intermediate and deep route. Max protect for him sometimes.  Thats exactly what the Dolphins did with Henne when they played us. Dont let him throw it where he wants to throw it, tell em where he is gonna throw it. &#8220;We&#8217;re trying to get the ball to JCO on this play, if they are in Cover 3 you dump it down to Leon or chuck it out of bounds. The worst that can happen is you punt the ball and play defense&#8221;. And if he is still out there throwing it where ever he wants, then you yank em.</p>
<p>They are burdening him with too much responsibility too early. The game has to slow down for him and that takes even the greatest NFL QBs a while. The more he plays, the more he takes care of the ball, the more you let him do. He saw a lot of vanilla looks early before teams could gameplan towards his tendencies and no one had film on him yet. I mean I dont have film of my own but Id bet my life they are disguising coverage on him. You cant expect or ask him to do what Brady or Peyton does, (changing routes, calling audibles etc)</p>
<p>Its also on the veterans to know that they have to help this kid out. You cant drop easy passes. Keller was an absolute disgrace last week, the guy didnt even bother showing up and Ive never been so down on him.</p>
<p>Rex, I love the aggressiveness on the defensive side but you cant translate it to a rookie QB on offense. He has to have limits and boundaries and its on Schotty to gauge when you can take a chance or when to just be smart. If he cant do that, get rid of em. </p>
<p>Its not time to bench the kid just yet, its just time to pull the reigns in and be smarter on how many chances he has to mess things up, not throw the ball down the field 30 times in the wind at the Meadowlands when you run the ball for 300 yards.</p>
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		<title>By: CWPOST1993</title>
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		<dc:creator>CWPOST1993</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 04:25:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The sky is falling ? Jeeez, guys! What the hell did you guys expect us to be in week 6 ? I bet if I asked that question before the season started - 75 pct of you would have said 3 -3. I know we&#039;ve lost two ugly games in a row, What did you expect from a rookie QB ? 

We&#039;ll be fine .. I still believe we&#039;ll win 6 more games. Have faith ...it&#039;s a tough pill to swallow. They showed us a preview of what it could be ... now we just need to run on all cylinders.

It&#039;s going to be a long nail biting season ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The sky is falling ? Jeeez, guys! What the hell did you guys expect us to be in week 6 ? I bet if I asked that question before the season started &#8211; 75 pct of you would have said 3 -3. I know we&#8217;ve lost two ugly games in a row, What did you expect from a rookie QB ? </p>
<p>We&#8217;ll be fine .. I still believe we&#8217;ll win 6 more games. Have faith &#8230;it&#8217;s a tough pill to swallow. They showed us a preview of what it could be &#8230; now we just need to run on all cylinders.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s going to be a long nail biting season &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: rusty sanchez</title>
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		<dc:creator>rusty sanchez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 02:24:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think we need rex to give a you play to win speech maybe that will turn things around... team shrek part deux!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think we need rex to give a you play to win speech maybe that will turn things around&#8230; team shrek part deux!</p>
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