Comments on: Film Room: Jets Raiders Recap

By: JOSE_THE_JET

JOSE_THE_JET — Tue, 27 Oct 2009 19:14:56 +0000

So if we cant run on the Bills are we the best running team in the NFL?
-You are right about running 11 times. But we still need to run more when we are losing.thanks for the link. A good running team runs when they are down. What will we do when we get 3rd and 4th downs at the goal line. throw the ball?

By: Bent

Bent — Tue, 27 Oct 2009 18:48:34 +0000

JOSE – here is the play by play for you to analyze:

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2009101811/2009/REG6/bills@jets/watch/contentid:09000d5d8138692e#tab:analyze/analyze-channels:cat-post-playbyplay

I’ll help out though:

Ints occurred three times on 1st down, once on 2nd and once on 4th.

Also, I note the criticism of Schottenheimer for calling too many runs on second down, but a review of the 2nd downs tells us:

They ran 11 times and passed 11 times, but when ahead in the second half they had a spell where they ran on 6 of 7 consecutive second downs.

Although you may think passing 11 times was too much, they went 4-9-68-1 int, which is actually better than all other throws (6-20-47-4 ints).

Running on second down wasn’t particularly successful, suggesting that the Bills stacked the box and wanted them to pass. When the Jets did run, they gained just 45 yards on 11 carries, just over 4 a pop…but 25 of these were on one play…the other 10 averaged just 2 yards a carry, so it’s pretty obvious that passing on 2nd down made more sense than you might think.

I am not a great Schottenheimer fan or apologist, but criticizing him for this game is off-base. He has called far worse gameplans than this.

By: JOSE_THE_JET

JOSE_THE_JET — Tue, 27 Oct 2009 18:27:30 +0000

I’m curious to see on what downs Sanchez’s into occurred? You have that one? Are these stats located in any particular website

By: JOSE_THE_JET

JOSE_THE_JET — Tue, 27 Oct 2009 18:23:15 +0000

So now we are number one. Our opponenets have nothing to do with it? Lets do it again this weekend!

By: Brendan

Brendan — Tue, 27 Oct 2009 18:20:23 +0000

Jose,

Those draws were the Paul Hackett special. They never worked, don’t know what runs you’re remembering.

In the Bills game, which we shouldn’t even bother talking about, we ran the ball at a 60/40 clip (right in your little range of success) and almost set a franchise record. Maybe, it was because we were getting 1 yard, then 2 yards and looking at 3rd and 7′s all game. 14 penalties also took us out of rushing situations. The Jets are a rushing team, and we rush the ball plenty.

By: JOSE_THE_JET

JOSE_THE_JET — Tue, 27 Oct 2009 18:09:53 +0000

I’m curious to see how many running vs passing plays we’ve ran on second down. I’m thinking about 50%-55%passing.

By: JOSE_THE_JET

JOSE_THE_JET — Tue, 27 Oct 2009 17:58:09 +0000

2 games ago we weren’t and should’ve been. We rarely ran the ball on 2nd down back then. After a short run we would then pass. Usually it would be incomplete. Then we would get stuck with a third and long and have no choice but throw. We need to start running on first and second downs. We have the linemen to do it. When we had Martin we would run a draw on 3rd and 12-15 and get a first down. How many screens have the Jets ran this year? It all starts with the run!!!

By: Brendan

Brendan — Tue, 27 Oct 2009 17:52:19 +0000

You just said it best. We weren’t the best running team against the Bills. Which means we were getting 2-3 yards on a lottttt of runs and were in a lot of 3rd and 6 or more situations. They had to pass in those situations.

But to say we don’t run the ball enough is just plain wrong. We’re the #1 rushing team in the league. Everyone likes to bring up Big Ben’s Steelers, and for good reason. Well, right now the Jets are out-rushing them on a per-game average. Perception vs. reality.

By: JOSE_THE_JET

JOSE_THE_JET — Tue, 27 Oct 2009 17:48:43 +0000

With a rookie QB we didn’t run the ball often enough. Every time he faked the run he faked no one out. LBs just dropped back. Now when he fakes the run the LBs will stay and respect the run!

-The Bills game was HUGE. Sanchez kept throwing interceptions. Like this weeks game. We cannot lose this game. We were’nt the best running team vs the Bills. Lets get 300 yrds this week. And hold the ball for 35-40 minutes of the game.

By: Brendan

Brendan — Tue, 27 Oct 2009 17:33:17 +0000

Still on the Bills game? That was 2 weeks ago. We run the ball 59% of the time, for the 3rd best average ypc and the most yards per game. Enough of this ‘we don’t run the ball enough’ nonsense. WE JUST HAD TWO 300 YARD GAMES IN A ROW>