Comments on: How Much Tread is Left on Jones Tires? http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/10/27/how-much-tread-is-left-on-jones-tires/ Ranting and Raving about the Gang Green Sun, 12 Feb 2012 13:32:08 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Bent http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/10/27/how-much-tread-is-left-on-jones-tires/#comment-196502 Bent Wed, 28 Oct 2009 18:30:21 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/10/27/how-much-tread-is-left-on-jones-tires/#comment-196502 Good post, mike. Hopefully this game showed the Jets that when the box is stacked, you can still break long runs if you execute well, so they shouldn't let the other team dictate what they shall do. Agree to move on. Nice win, time to focus on Miami. Good post, mike. Hopefully this game showed the Jets that when the box is stacked, you can still break long runs if you execute well, so they shouldn’t let the other team dictate what they shall do.

Agree to move on. Nice win, time to focus on Miami.

]]> By: miketaliaferro http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/10/27/how-much-tread-is-left-on-jones-tires/#comment-196494 miketaliaferro Wed, 28 Oct 2009 18:15:23 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/10/27/how-much-tread-is-left-on-jones-tires/#comment-196494 Not wrestling with 20/20 hindsight is a good thing. Before the game, hank/naple's reasoning had its points, and was as valid as anyone else's. Every team in the league knows now what the Jets are going to do. And will line up to stop it and force Sanchez to beat them. Maybe in a year or two, that will be a mistake and Mark will strike fear in DCs' hearts. But we're certainly not there yet. If you're the opposing DC, you say, stack the box with all you've got, shut down the run and let your DBs control the game. Now, back to h/n, there are two ways to beat that defensive plan, both presenting challenges -- run 50+ to wear them down in a close game, or go over the top. Going in planning to run 50+ times means you're hoping for a close game. If it's not, there goes that plan. If you go over the top, you're now in 50-50 Land -- either Mark has a good game or a rotten game (he's shown both so far -- how can you plan for one or the other?). Fear of the rotten game is what, I believe, spurred h/n's comments. No one on this board, or in either locker room, the press box or on millions of couches across America (or the UK) could have foreseen 14-0, game-set-match, before people found their seats. 3 3/4 periods of garbage time had more to do with the 50+ ground attempts than anything else. Let's all move on, there's nothing to see here... Not wrestling with 20/20 hindsight is a good thing.

Before the game, hank/naple’s reasoning had its points, and was as valid as anyone else’s. Every team in the league knows now what the Jets are going to do. And will line up to stop it and force Sanchez to beat them. Maybe in a year or two, that will be a mistake and Mark will strike fear in DCs’ hearts. But we’re certainly not there yet.

If you’re the opposing DC, you say, stack the box with all you’ve got, shut down the run and let your DBs control the game.

Now, back to h/n, there are two ways to beat that defensive plan, both presenting challenges — run 50+ to wear them down in a close game, or go over the top. Going in planning to run 50+ times means you’re hoping for a close game. If it’s not, there goes that plan. If you go over the top, you’re now in 50-50 Land — either Mark has a good game or a rotten game (he’s shown both so far — how can you plan for one or the other?). Fear of the rotten game is what, I believe, spurred h/n’s comments.

No one on this board, or in either locker room, the press box or on millions of couches across America (or the UK) could have foreseen 14-0, game-set-match, before people found their seats. 3 3/4 periods of garbage time had more to do with the 50+ ground attempts than anything else.

Let’s all move on, there’s nothing to see here…

]]> By: Pdubbs http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/10/27/how-much-tread-is-left-on-jones-tires/#comment-196449 Pdubbs Wed, 28 Oct 2009 14:44:17 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/10/27/how-much-tread-is-left-on-jones-tires/#comment-196449 Jones is right .... the dude is a physical beast and cannot be grouped in with ALL OTHER RB's. The 31 yr old rule might not apply to him. However, I do not think that he will be around for many years ... but why not 2-3 more ? I think the Jets need character guys like this to help our team have some depth. Otherwise we are just the Redskins. Jones is right …. the dude is a physical beast and cannot be grouped in with ALL OTHER RB’s. The 31 yr old rule might not apply to him. However, I do not think that he will be around for many years … but why not 2-3 more ? I think the Jets need character guys like this to help our team have some depth.

Otherwise we are just the Redskins.

]]> By: shah http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/10/27/how-much-tread-is-left-on-jones-tires/#comment-196404 shah Wed, 28 Oct 2009 10:47:39 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/10/27/how-much-tread-is-left-on-jones-tires/#comment-196404 we should at least keep him around for another year to help ease the transition from him to shonn greene as full time RB. we should at least keep him around for another year to help ease the transition from him to shonn greene as full time RB.

]]> By: dakar http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/10/27/how-much-tread-is-left-on-jones-tires/#comment-196343 dakar Wed, 28 Oct 2009 01:52:57 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/10/27/how-much-tread-is-left-on-jones-tires/#comment-196343 if TJ ends up with another 1300-1500 yard season then there is no reason not to pay him 3.5 - 4.5 a year for 2-3 years...if possible...and yes the line is opening up big holes...its there job to open up holes for the RBs... what RB in this leauge will get 100 yards in a game without good o-line blocking...none...as some1 said on top...TJ only gets 3 yards when the line doesn't do a good job opening up holes for him...well those 3 yards are better than most RBs in this league in the same scenario...i think he's worth another 2-3 years...just my thoughts... if TJ ends up with another 1300-1500 yard season then there is no reason not to pay him 3.5 – 4.5 a year for 2-3 years…if possible…and yes the line is opening up big holes…its there job to open up holes for the RBs… what RB in this leauge will get 100 yards in a game without good o-line blocking…none…as some1 said on top…TJ only gets 3 yards when the line doesn’t do a good job opening up holes for him…well those 3 yards are better than most RBs in this league in the same scenario…i think he’s worth another 2-3 years…just my thoughts…

]]> By: Steve Barger http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/10/27/how-much-tread-is-left-on-jones-tires/#comment-196290 Steve Barger Tue, 27 Oct 2009 22:56:53 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/10/27/how-much-tread-is-left-on-jones-tires/#comment-196290 Jones is under contract with the NY Jets for the 2010 season. He has a 3 million dollar roster bonus due him and a 2.8 millon dollar salary. He current contract expires after the completeion of the 2010 season. Jones is under contract with the NY Jets for the 2010 season. He has a 3 million dollar roster bonus due him and a 2.8 millon dollar salary. He current contract expires after the completeion of the 2010 season.

]]> By: hank/naples http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/10/27/how-much-tread-is-left-on-jones-tires/#comment-196277 hank/naples Tue, 27 Oct 2009 22:21:42 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/10/27/how-much-tread-is-left-on-jones-tires/#comment-196277 Bent; Do I note one iota of support in your voice Bent? Can't be, holy moly, geezzz wizzzz !!!! Bent;

Do I note one iota of support in your voice Bent?

Can’t be, holy moly, geezzz wizzzz !!!!

]]> By: Bent http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/10/27/how-much-tread-is-left-on-jones-tires/#comment-196271 Bent Tue, 27 Oct 2009 22:05:44 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/10/27/how-much-tread-is-left-on-jones-tires/#comment-196271 If you had to leave the site every time you got something wrong, there'd be none of us left! We all make mistakes from time to time, even me...uhh, especially me! If you had to leave the site every time you got something wrong, there’d be none of us left!

We all make mistakes from time to time, even me…uhh, especially me!

]]> By: hank/naples http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/10/27/how-much-tread-is-left-on-jones-tires/#comment-196262 hank/naples Tue, 27 Oct 2009 21:46:20 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/10/27/how-much-tread-is-left-on-jones-tires/#comment-196262 Jesus: Just to show you how much of a nice guy I am I'll save you the trouble of looking back. I said : "there is no way Oakland would allow the Jets to run the ball 45-50 times" This ofcourse was assuming that Oakland would play a physical, competitive game. However, refering to my statements (2-4 ) above the game for all intents and purposes was over by the 1st quarter when they benched Russell. Does that make me right? Ofcourse not.They did run for 50+ yards. But, for you to crow over those runs, is just plain weak. Jesus:

Just to show you how much of a nice guy I am I’ll save you the trouble of looking back.

I said : “there is no way Oakland would allow the Jets to run the ball 45-50 times”

This ofcourse was assuming that Oakland would play a physical, competitive game.

However, refering to my statements (2-4 ) above the game for all intents and purposes was over by the 1st quarter when they benched Russell.

Does that make me right? Ofcourse not.They did run for 50+ yards. But, for you to crow over those runs, is just plain weak.

]]> By: 2g http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/10/27/how-much-tread-is-left-on-jones-tires/#comment-196261 2g Tue, 27 Oct 2009 21:41:44 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/10/27/how-much-tread-is-left-on-jones-tires/#comment-196261 No prob lol. My memory served me well. Let's see how he spins this now. No prob lol. My memory served me well. Let’s see how he spins this now.

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