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	<title>Comments on: Abstract Matchups: Dolphins Week</title>
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		<title>By: rusty sanchez</title>
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		<dc:creator>rusty sanchez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 02:37:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>shonn ran pretty good against the fins until he hurt is ankle...he def not washington but i feel hes faster than advertised and can break the big one...plus hopefully the rust is off pace and his 3 sack game wasnt just because it was the raiders...that would be sick if shonn gets another 100+ yd and 2 td game</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>shonn ran pretty good against the fins until he hurt is ankle&#8230;he def not washington but i feel hes faster than advertised and can break the big one&#8230;plus hopefully the rust is off pace and his 3 sack game wasnt just because it was the raiders&#8230;that would be sick if shonn gets another 100+ yd and 2 td game</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Nevis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben Nevis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 00:03:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would rotate Shonn G into the TJ running game a bit more seriously even earlier on. Make the Fins adjust to the two different styles. Then throw Woodhead in for a serious change of pace, especially on a screen, a draw. Wouldn&#039;t involve DW in a lot of snaps (unless the Fins can&#039;t figure him out), but sparingly in the slot, the screen and/or a reverse.

Would also like to see the Jets spread the field with three WR every now and then, with JCo and Braylon pulling all the extra coverage while the Clown goes fast and deep. Trick is the OL has to give MS time so he doesn&#039;t make bad decisions, and has a chance to look off the DBs.

Also an effective TJ &amp; Greene run game will open up the field for either JCo or Braylon--whichever one draws the extra help in  coverage, should allow MS to find the other in man.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would rotate Shonn G into the TJ running game a bit more seriously even earlier on. Make the Fins adjust to the two different styles. Then throw Woodhead in for a serious change of pace, especially on a screen, a draw. Wouldn&#8217;t involve DW in a lot of snaps (unless the Fins can&#8217;t figure him out), but sparingly in the slot, the screen and/or a reverse.</p>
<p>Would also like to see the Jets spread the field with three WR every now and then, with JCo and Braylon pulling all the extra coverage while the Clown goes fast and deep. Trick is the OL has to give MS time so he doesn&#8217;t make bad decisions, and has a chance to look off the DBs.</p>
<p>Also an effective TJ &amp; Greene run game will open up the field for either JCo or Braylon&#8211;whichever one draws the extra help in  coverage, should allow MS to find the other in man.</p>
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		<title>By: hank/naples</title>
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		<dc:creator>hank/naples</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 22:58:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike T;

I know readers may get the wrong idea that I HAPPEN to agree with just about all your posts, but darn it, your are right again !!

Your use of the word &quot;weight&quot; as in &quot;weight Green&#039;s data&quot; it&#039;s correct. Forget &quot;estimates&quot; when your&#039;re talking about macho, down hill, pund &#039;n ground running !!

Add to that the fact that he ran for about eighty (80) yards on three (3) carries, then you have a very NFL yds per ground &#039;n pund carry AGAINST a pourous NFL run D.

 You know the fourth ranked run D is not an Oakland run D. The kid is going to have to EARN his stripes !!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike T;</p>
<p>I know readers may get the wrong idea that I HAPPEN to agree with just about all your posts, but darn it, your are right again !!</p>
<p>Your use of the word &#8220;weight&#8221; as in &#8220;weight Green&#8217;s data&#8221; it&#8217;s correct. Forget &#8220;estimates&#8221; when your&#8217;re talking about macho, down hill, pund &#8216;n ground running !!</p>
<p>Add to that the fact that he ran for about eighty (80) yards on three (3) carries, then you have a very NFL yds per ground &#8216;n pund carry AGAINST a pourous NFL run D.</p>
<p> You know the fourth ranked run D is not an Oakland run D. The kid is going to have to EARN his stripes !!!</p>
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		<title>By: jay</title>
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		<dc:creator>jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 22:58:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>no let down this time fins your wildcat belongs in a videogame Rex is right its a gimick! im going to enjoy watching the jets knock your a**** in the ground bunch of bums. go JETS!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>no let down this time fins your wildcat belongs in a videogame Rex is right its a gimick! im going to enjoy watching the jets knock your a**** in the ground bunch of bums. go JETS!</p>
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		<title>By: SackDance99</title>
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		<dc:creator>SackDance99</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 22:30:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bassett,

There&#039;s no denying that Leon will be missed and that Greene has a different skill set.  But, he also has a different skill set than Jones.  Thomas Jones runs between the tackles with authority, but he is not a second-level threat (and I don&#039;t mean running 40 yards after breaking through 8 men in the box...I mean punishing DBs).  Greene is a load.  His low center of gravity and legs churning style make him impervious to arm tackles.  If you can soften up the D with TJ, Greene&#039;s the hammer.  In theory, Leon was a 1st quarter player, use him to get the homerun and the lead.  Greene is a 4th quarter player.  For some games and in some situations, Greene IS the better choice.  But, I already knew I was a moonbat!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bassett,</p>
<p>There&#8217;s no denying that Leon will be missed and that Greene has a different skill set.  But, he also has a different skill set than Jones.  Thomas Jones runs between the tackles with authority, but he is not a second-level threat (and I don&#8217;t mean running 40 yards after breaking through 8 men in the box&#8230;I mean punishing DBs).  Greene is a load.  His low center of gravity and legs churning style make him impervious to arm tackles.  If you can soften up the D with TJ, Greene&#8217;s the hammer.  In theory, Leon was a 1st quarter player, use him to get the homerun and the lead.  Greene is a 4th quarter player.  For some games and in some situations, Greene IS the better choice.  But, I already knew I was a moonbat!</p>
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		<title>By: HAGS</title>
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		<dc:creator>HAGS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 20:41:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am so excited to see the JETS face off the FINS...what an important week for us...I will be at game sunday and feel confident that it will be an exciting game...till the end...AND I don&#039;t care how many hot dogs SANCHEZ eats..as long as he AS WELL AS  the team performs better at THIS matchup....My prediction 24 to 10...JETS....also, Defense should be more prepared for Sunday and Ryan surely has learned a few things since the last meeting...can&#039;t wait Jet fans...JETS..JETS..JETS!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am so excited to see the JETS face off the FINS&#8230;what an important week for us&#8230;I will be at game sunday and feel confident that it will be an exciting game&#8230;till the end&#8230;AND I don&#8217;t care how many hot dogs SANCHEZ eats..as long as he AS WELL AS  the team performs better at THIS matchup&#8230;.My prediction 24 to 10&#8230;JETS&#8230;.also, Defense should be more prepared for Sunday and Ryan surely has learned a few things since the last meeting&#8230;can&#8217;t wait Jet fans&#8230;JETS..JETS..JETS!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: EastSide</title>
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		<dc:creator>EastSide</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 20:28:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shonn Greene was a linebacker as well as a tailback in high school.  That&#039;s pretty much all that needs to be said.
Leon&#039;s style deflates a defenses&#039; morale
Greene&#039;s style grinds them down physically

Leon is the more talented and versatile of the two but the playing field is leveled by the fact this team is built around Greene&#039;s style.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shonn Greene was a linebacker as well as a tailback in high school.  That&#8217;s pretty much all that needs to be said.<br />
Leon&#8217;s style deflates a defenses&#8217; morale<br />
Greene&#8217;s style grinds them down physically</p>
<p>Leon is the more talented and versatile of the two but the playing field is leveled by the fact this team is built around Greene&#8217;s style.</p>
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		<title>By: Brendan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brendan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 20:24:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike,

I guess I just didn&#039;t get the randomness to your method. I get what you were trying to get across, I just don&#039;t agree with it, at least not this game. Greene had his most carries (in a quarter) in the 2nd quarter against the Raiders, when they still had a shot, and gained 83 yards on 12 carries (6.9 YPC). He is a battering ram, a wrecking ball, a bulldozer, whatever you want to call him, he busts through arm tackles and falls forward (much like our primary focus this week: Mr. Ronnie Brown). So to say he did it against a worn out and depleted Raiders team isn&#039;t really true. Jones, on the other hand, had 17 carries for 53 yards in the first half (3.11 YPC). 

Now I am not saying Greene is better than Jones, but Greene has something Jones doesn&#039;t and that&#039;s a young body. His style of running wouldn&#039;t suit Jones well, since Jones has a patient style of running the ball. But Greene is a special player and reminds me of Michael Turner in the sense that it is never an easy tackle and his bigggg legs give him immense power in between the tackles.

I guess ineffective isn&#039;t the word I meant to use. But it wasn&#039;t very good. Take away Steve Weatherford&#039;s rushing totals, and the Jets had 112 yards on 29 carries (3.8ish YPC). That isn&#039;t very good. Anyone who watched the MNF game against Miami would be able to tell you that it was very physical, and the Jets will need Greene to wear down that defense with his pounding style of running. Jones and Greene are both &#039;between the tackle&#039; runners, but with very differing styles of running.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike,</p>
<p>I guess I just didn&#8217;t get the randomness to your method. I get what you were trying to get across, I just don&#8217;t agree with it, at least not this game. Greene had his most carries (in a quarter) in the 2nd quarter against the Raiders, when they still had a shot, and gained 83 yards on 12 carries (6.9 YPC). He is a battering ram, a wrecking ball, a bulldozer, whatever you want to call him, he busts through arm tackles and falls forward (much like our primary focus this week: Mr. Ronnie Brown). So to say he did it against a worn out and depleted Raiders team isn&#8217;t really true. Jones, on the other hand, had 17 carries for 53 yards in the first half (3.11 YPC). </p>
<p>Now I am not saying Greene is better than Jones, but Greene has something Jones doesn&#8217;t and that&#8217;s a young body. His style of running wouldn&#8217;t suit Jones well, since Jones has a patient style of running the ball. But Greene is a special player and reminds me of Michael Turner in the sense that it is never an easy tackle and his bigggg legs give him immense power in between the tackles.</p>
<p>I guess ineffective isn&#8217;t the word I meant to use. But it wasn&#8217;t very good. Take away Steve Weatherford&#8217;s rushing totals, and the Jets had 112 yards on 29 carries (3.8ish YPC). That isn&#8217;t very good. Anyone who watched the MNF game against Miami would be able to tell you that it was very physical, and the Jets will need Greene to wear down that defense with his pounding style of running. Jones and Greene are both &#8216;between the tackle&#8217; runners, but with very differing styles of running.</p>
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		<title>By: miketaliaferro</title>
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		<dc:creator>miketaliaferro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 20:04:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>See? Greg / 130 gets it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See? Greg / 130 gets it!</p>
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		<title>By: miketaliaferro</title>
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		<dc:creator>miketaliaferro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 20:02:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brendan,
Apologies, shouldn&#039;t have said weight, but estimates. Reasonable estimates. Greene did most of his damage against a poor team that was already demoralized and had been continually pounded by TJ. Plus, 33 of those 144 yds came on one breakaway where the men in black rolled over and played dead. You could take away a couple other good gainers for the same reason. But the way the OL has been playing and what Greene showed leads me to believe he&#039;d end up with at least a solid 60 yds. but less than 80 against just about anyone. That sounds about right.

For TJ? You have to assume that if it&#039;d had been more of a ballgame, Oakland&#039;s D would have been stiffer. Again, with the success of the OL, and the way he&#039;s been running, I think it would have taken most of the game (cutting down many of Greene&#039;s carries), but I can&#039;t see TJ NOT being able to slog out a solid 100-yd. game against just about any team at this point. Take away a long gainer or two, and 102-105 sounds right.

Brendan, I don&#039;t see anything other than pure supposition for your last graph re: Miami. Doesn&#039;t make sense to me. I don&#039;t see it. Pls. explain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brendan,<br />
Apologies, shouldn&#8217;t have said weight, but estimates. Reasonable estimates. Greene did most of his damage against a poor team that was already demoralized and had been continually pounded by TJ. Plus, 33 of those 144 yds came on one breakaway where the men in black rolled over and played dead. You could take away a couple other good gainers for the same reason. But the way the OL has been playing and what Greene showed leads me to believe he&#8217;d end up with at least a solid 60 yds. but less than 80 against just about anyone. That sounds about right.</p>
<p>For TJ? You have to assume that if it&#8217;d had been more of a ballgame, Oakland&#8217;s D would have been stiffer. Again, with the success of the OL, and the way he&#8217;s been running, I think it would have taken most of the game (cutting down many of Greene&#8217;s carries), but I can&#8217;t see TJ NOT being able to slog out a solid 100-yd. game against just about any team at this point. Take away a long gainer or two, and 102-105 sounds right.</p>
<p>Brendan, I don&#8217;t see anything other than pure supposition for your last graph re: Miami. Doesn&#8217;t make sense to me. I don&#8217;t see it. Pls. explain.</p>
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