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	<description>Ranting and Raving about the Gang Green</description>
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		<title>By: Michael M</title>
		<link>http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/11/16/welcome-to-the-nadir/#comment-201421</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 18:48:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amen, bassett. Amen.</description>
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		<title>By: reality jet fan</title>
		<link>http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/11/16/welcome-to-the-nadir/#comment-201418</link>
		<dc:creator>reality jet fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 18:46:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like to know how mark sanchez had time to write a speech between end of the game and press conference. Did he write one speech for a loss and one speech for a win!</description>
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		<title>By: Brendan</title>
		<link>http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/11/16/welcome-to-the-nadir/#comment-201406</link>
		<dc:creator>Brendan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 18:35:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bernie,

&quot;who?&quot; is a 6&#039;8&quot; 310+ lbs. behemoth who was manhandling the Jags tackles in the second half. Get used to him, he&#039;s going to be our guy at DE for the next few years, alongside Devito. It&#039;s nice you&#039;re so quick to call them both backups when they&#039;ve had...oh...about 10 seconds to show their worth so far this season. How about you wait a while before writing off two guys who are 24 &amp; 25 years old.

Steelers have Woodley &amp; Harrison. Gmen have about 10 DE&#039;s. Ravens have Suggs and J. Johnson. Eagles would definitely take Pace (Victor Abiamiri?? What?) So would the Vikings (no thanks, Ray Edwards). My point is every team has different strengths. You think the Broncos wouldn&#039;t want Pace instead of Mario Haggan? You don&#039;t think the Bengals wished they had him right now? The Pats? The Cowboys wouldn&#039;t start him over Anthony Spencer? Pace is a very good football player, and would start on many contenders defenses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bernie,</p>
<p>&#8220;who?&#8221; is a 6&#8217;8&#8243; 310+ lbs. behemoth who was manhandling the Jags tackles in the second half. Get used to him, he&#8217;s going to be our guy at DE for the next few years, alongside Devito. It&#8217;s nice you&#8217;re so quick to call them both backups when they&#8217;ve had&#8230;oh&#8230;about 10 seconds to show their worth so far this season. How about you wait a while before writing off two guys who are 24 &amp; 25 years old.</p>
<p>Steelers have Woodley &amp; Harrison. Gmen have about 10 DE&#8217;s. Ravens have Suggs and J. Johnson. Eagles would definitely take Pace (Victor Abiamiri?? What?) So would the Vikings (no thanks, Ray Edwards). My point is every team has different strengths. You think the Broncos wouldn&#8217;t want Pace instead of Mario Haggan? You don&#8217;t think the Bengals wished they had him right now? The Pats? The Cowboys wouldn&#8217;t start him over Anthony Spencer? Pace is a very good football player, and would start on many contenders defenses.</p>
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		<title>By: Jets-Fan-4-Life</title>
		<link>http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/11/16/welcome-to-the-nadir/#comment-201403</link>
		<dc:creator>Jets-Fan-4-Life</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 18:27:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andy... Ok agreed.

Just keep in mind that there are 5 &quot;proven&quot; SB winning HC&#039;s available next year.  

(1) Cower (The Golden Chin)
(2) Holmgren
(3) Shanahan
(4) Gruden (Add Bill Callahan to the mix and just think of the possibilities).
(5) Fassel</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andy&#8230; Ok agreed.</p>
<p>Just keep in mind that there are 5 &#8220;proven&#8221; SB winning HC&#8217;s available next year.  </p>
<p>(1) Cower (The Golden Chin)<br />
(2) Holmgren<br />
(3) Shanahan<br />
(4) Gruden (Add Bill Callahan to the mix and just think of the possibilities).<br />
(5) Fassel</p>
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		<title>By: bernie</title>
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		<dc:creator>bernie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 18:21:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brendan,

Wow. Let&#039;s just say I disagree. A lot. Calvin Pace would not start on the Steelers, or the Giants, or the Eagles, or the Ravens, or the Vikings, or the Pats... in other words, any legit contender that considers their defense to be elite. Pace is a nice player, don&#039;t get me wrong. But if he&#039;s your best pass rusher, you are in serious trouble. 

I won&#039;t even comment on Devito and Pitoutoua (who?) being forces on the d-line. They are backups (maybe) on an elite team.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brendan,</p>
<p>Wow. Let&#8217;s just say I disagree. A lot. Calvin Pace would not start on the Steelers, or the Giants, or the Eagles, or the Ravens, or the Vikings, or the Pats&#8230; in other words, any legit contender that considers their defense to be elite. Pace is a nice player, don&#8217;t get me wrong. But if he&#8217;s your best pass rusher, you are in serious trouble. </p>
<p>I won&#8217;t even comment on Devito and Pitoutoua (who?) being forces on the d-line. They are backups (maybe) on an elite team.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 17:02:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jets-Fan-4-Life-

Listen I never said you cant say anything negative or knock the Jets when they do bad. I do too, but what my issue is is the quick axe that some people have.  Listen Shotty yes should go. let him get his head coaching job some where. But we still do not know what Rex is yet it is not fair to say exactly what kind of coach he is. The book is still out on him. I do applaud you for sticking with the team I know it is tough and frustrating but there is still plenty of football to play, and if it don&#039;t work out then there is always next year..LOL. Yah and I hated that superbowl too, just like this past world series being a Mets fan.

reality jet fan,
Iam not saying they are bad fans, I think that it just ads to the frustration. Besides the koolaid is good! LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jets-Fan-4-Life-</p>
<p>Listen I never said you cant say anything negative or knock the Jets when they do bad. I do too, but what my issue is is the quick axe that some people have.  Listen Shotty yes should go. let him get his head coaching job some where. But we still do not know what Rex is yet it is not fair to say exactly what kind of coach he is. The book is still out on him. I do applaud you for sticking with the team I know it is tough and frustrating but there is still plenty of football to play, and if it don&#8217;t work out then there is always next year..LOL. Yah and I hated that superbowl too, just like this past world series being a Mets fan.</p>
<p>reality jet fan,<br />
Iam not saying they are bad fans, I think that it just ads to the frustration. Besides the koolaid is good! LOL</p>
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		<title>By: reality jet fan</title>
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		<dc:creator>reality jet fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 16:46:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its amazing if you dont drink the kool aid u r a bad fan!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its amazing if you dont drink the kool aid u r a bad fan!</p>
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		<title>By: Jets-Fan-4-Life</title>
		<link>http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/11/16/welcome-to-the-nadir/#comment-201355</link>
		<dc:creator>Jets-Fan-4-Life</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 16:33:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andy,
 Let’s get something straight, like most who cheer for this team we&#039;ve been through more downs then ups! After giving 34 years of my life, my money, my heart, and my devotion to this franchise (which I will never get back - so I’m invested) I am not going to jump to another team because you want me too. I&#039;m entitled to say what I want, when I want in regards to &quot;MY&quot; Jets, I have no problem with a rookie QB, nor do I have an issue with the inexperienced back-up players who are doing what they can to cover an injured starter. I like Rex and his bravado, but I&#039;ve had it with re-building years because of new rookie coaches, and I have had it with Shotty too!!! Its time this team gets a &quot;PROVEN WINNER&quot; to call the shots!! Just like it&#039;s time this team stops being a joke to the rest of the league and stops dumping on us fans. I&#039;m so tired of helping other teams get to the playoffs, and saying &quot;Brand new team, same old Jets&quot;!

Since I’m ranting…. I will never root for the Giants because they are the other local team, and so you know I’ve boycotted the Giants/Pats SB a few years ago because I despise both teams.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andy,<br />
 Let’s get something straight, like most who cheer for this team we&#8217;ve been through more downs then ups! After giving 34 years of my life, my money, my heart, and my devotion to this franchise (which I will never get back &#8211; so I’m invested) I am not going to jump to another team because you want me too. I&#8217;m entitled to say what I want, when I want in regards to &#8220;MY&#8221; Jets, I have no problem with a rookie QB, nor do I have an issue with the inexperienced back-up players who are doing what they can to cover an injured starter. I like Rex and his bravado, but I&#8217;ve had it with re-building years because of new rookie coaches, and I have had it with Shotty too!!! Its time this team gets a &#8220;PROVEN WINNER&#8221; to call the shots!! Just like it&#8217;s time this team stops being a joke to the rest of the league and stops dumping on us fans. I&#8217;m so tired of helping other teams get to the playoffs, and saying &#8220;Brand new team, same old Jets&#8221;!</p>
<p>Since I’m ranting…. I will never root for the Giants because they are the other local team, and so you know I’ve boycotted the Giants/Pats SB a few years ago because I despise both teams.</p>
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		<title>By: Brendan</title>
		<link>http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/11/16/welcome-to-the-nadir/#comment-201338</link>
		<dc:creator>Brendan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 16:06:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bernie,

Pace an overpaid backup? Have you watched any games this year. The guy is a force, plain and simple. Our linebackers are fine, although an upgrade over Thomas would be nice. Our D-line needs more studs, that is certain. Ellis may be aging, but he is one of the best D-lineman in the league. If you compare him to DT&#039;s instead of DE&#039;s (because he really plays a DT-style position) then you&#039;d see his production is more than solid. Pouha, Devito and Pitoitua are all showing they have potential to be very good D-line. I saw Devito and Pitoitua yesterday creating chaos with their penetration. They&#039;re both big and strong and young. Not everyone can be a Pro-Bowler, but those guys are the future at DE for us. Leonhard had a ridiculous game yesterday, and if not for the club he was forced to wear he would have had an INT and a forced fumble. The talent is there, we just need more time in the scheme and a few more pieces.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bernie,</p>
<p>Pace an overpaid backup? Have you watched any games this year. The guy is a force, plain and simple. Our linebackers are fine, although an upgrade over Thomas would be nice. Our D-line needs more studs, that is certain. Ellis may be aging, but he is one of the best D-lineman in the league. If you compare him to DT&#8217;s instead of DE&#8217;s (because he really plays a DT-style position) then you&#8217;d see his production is more than solid. Pouha, Devito and Pitoitua are all showing they have potential to be very good D-line. I saw Devito and Pitoitua yesterday creating chaos with their penetration. They&#8217;re both big and strong and young. Not everyone can be a Pro-Bowler, but those guys are the future at DE for us. Leonhard had a ridiculous game yesterday, and if not for the club he was forced to wear he would have had an INT and a forced fumble. The talent is there, we just need more time in the scheme and a few more pieces.</p>
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		<title>By: bernie</title>
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		<dc:creator>bernie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 16:00:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bassett, I honestly don&#039;t see the talent that you do, and I&#039;ve been saying this for a few years now. Seriously, look at our d-line, sans Jenkins, and where is the talent? An aging Ellis? Journeymen like Pouha, Douglas, Green or Devito? Look at the LB&#039;s and you see two overpaid backup-types (IMO) in Pace and Thomas, a complete bust in Gholston, a guy who talks more than he plays (Bart) and one really promising, talented player in Harris. As far as the secondary, we all know Revis is a stud. After him, Rhodes is horribly overrated, Lowery is a nickel guy at best, and I guess Leonard is a nice story, but not exactly Pro Bowl-caliber. So again, where is all this talent?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bassett, I honestly don&#8217;t see the talent that you do, and I&#8217;ve been saying this for a few years now. Seriously, look at our d-line, sans Jenkins, and where is the talent? An aging Ellis? Journeymen like Pouha, Douglas, Green or Devito? Look at the LB&#8217;s and you see two overpaid backup-types (IMO) in Pace and Thomas, a complete bust in Gholston, a guy who talks more than he plays (Bart) and one really promising, talented player in Harris. As far as the secondary, we all know Revis is a stud. After him, Rhodes is horribly overrated, Lowery is a nickel guy at best, and I guess Leonard is a nice story, but not exactly Pro Bowl-caliber. So again, where is all this talent?</p>
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