Comments on: Don’t Harsh His Time on Revis Island

By: Patriot Games: Jets tussel with the Brady Bunch in Foxborough « Talk of New York (T.O.N.Y) Sports

Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:22:29 +0000

[...] Wide receiver Randy Moss has been equally as impressive, raking in 525 receiving yards and six TD’s in the four games. If you remember, Moss was shut down by standout cornerback Darrelle Revis, and held to just four catches for 24 yards. This matchup is bound to be the main even Sunday, and it got quite awkward when Revis was asked about his week two matchup with Moss. [...]

By: JesusRevis

JesusRevis — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:52:30 +0000

Here’s the link.

http://www.profootballfocus.com/by_player.php?tab=by_player&season=2007&surn=Revis&playerid=3630&group=7

By: JesusRevis

JesusRevis — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:51:21 +0000

Sack,

According to ProFootballFocus.com, which is the link Bent referenced a week ago during the Kerry Rhodes discussions, Darrelle Revis allowed 4 receptions for 25 yards in that game. So while he may have been lined up on Moss for some plays, I’m pretty sure he was covering other receivers for the most part. And I can say with 100% confidence that he was not involved in the 51 yard touchdown. He definitely wasnt the shutdown guy he is now, but I remember watching him his rookie year and being blown away by how impressive he was.

By: Dave

Dave — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 05:21:28 +0000

I think in Revis’ first game Moss caught a sideline route that went for 30ish yards on Revis. That’s it. Compare that to two picks Revis has on Moss in man coverage throughout their time playing against each other and there’s no reason at all to overblow one performance because Revis has been doing it for almost three years now.

All Mike Florio(as well as media types on both the Jets and Patriots beat) are showing is their football ignorance in the way that they’re trying to discredit Revis because of “help”. There’s a difference between a double team and “help”. A double team is a deliberate attempt to limit a player. “Help” can be a variety of things like one or two safeties over the top, and that’s something every single corner in the league gets on pretty much a consistent basis from Nnamdi Asomugha to Revis to Bailey to the scrubs of the world. There’s not a single team in the league that runs Cover 0(all man across the board) for more than a few plays at most a game. It’s just not a smart coverage to run in today’s league.

By: andrew

andrew — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 01:39:40 +0000

Alright so we’ll find out Sunday with Welker back AND Leonhard out.

By: SackDance99

SackDance99 — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 23:39:03 +0000

It’s too long ago for me to have a specific recollection, so maybe Revis wasn’t beaten on the 51-yarder, but I do recall Revis in man-coverage being beaten by Moss, there was a big play for the Pats’ final TD. Revis was locked up in man coverage and Moss almost scored…something like a 12 yard gain. There were a couple of others, too. I think Gaffney beat Revis. I remember that Revis was great, but he wasn’t Mr. Shutdown, like he is now.

By: CautiouslyOptimistic

CautiouslyOptimistic — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 22:44:00 +0000

And also, has anyone noticed that whenever Revis DOES get beaten for a score it’s always a play where something improbable happens?

Like when Braylon had that impossible one-handed grab in the endzone against Revis or Abram Elam running into Revis who already had his hands on the ball against Lee Evans, allowing Evans to gain possession of the ball and then run away?

That speaks to how good Revis is, it takes that much to beat him for a score.

By: CautiouslyOptimistic

CautiouslyOptimistic — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 22:37:04 +0000

Yea I remember that play vividly. JesusRevis is right, Revis was in zone coverage. Revis put his hands on Moss initially right off the snap but then dropped off into zone coverage.

So technically Moss never really beat Revis for a big play, ever. But with regards to safety help, no corner, not even Deion in his prime can cover a guy like Moss with no safety back deep if Brady has time to throw the ball. Has anyone seen some of the defensive pass interference calls this year? Granted they’ve helped the Jets more than once but corners are severely handcuffed these days playing wideouts in man coverage.

By: JesusRevis

JesusRevis — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 21:40:33 +0000

Sack,

Revis wasnt covering Moss on that play, and I dont think he was really covering Moss much at all that game. On the long TD, the players chasing Moss were David Barret, Jonathon Vilma and Erick Coleman. Revis was pressing Moss at the line of scrimmage, but Revis immediately passed him off to the other d-backs and assumed coverage of the tight end.

Revis has shadowed Moss every game since then and Moss has 0 TD’s and unimpressive yardage

By: JEFFDOLFINI

JEFFDOLFINI — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:51:30 +0000

He shut Moss down, he is better than Moss. Moss is the one that needs to shut up!