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	<description>Ranting and Raving about the Gang Green</description>
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		<title>By: Johnny Reefer</title>
		<link>http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/11/20/daily-links-the-cotch-rocket/comment-page-2/#comment-202764</link>
		<dc:creator>Johnny Reefer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 05:38:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Sack on the DE/OLB.</description>
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		<title>By: SackDance99</title>
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		<dc:creator>SackDance99</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 02:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and I think the Jets need to draft a DE/OLB hybrid that can rush the passer.  It&#039;s the missing link on the defense, even if they have trade up to do so...lol.

Mor</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and I think the Jets need to draft a DE/OLB hybrid that can rush the passer.  It&#8217;s the missing link on the defense, even if they have trade up to do so&#8230;lol.</p>
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		<title>By: SackDance99</title>
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		<dc:creator>SackDance99</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 02:03:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>igs,

Because I have time, I will explain my position and yours.

As for a top CB returning punts, my point was that it&#039;s not as unusual as you said.  Revis was just doing it in an emergency, but way back in 2007, Charles Woodson, as he did during most of his career, was a top punt returner.  Your argument that it&#039;s indicative of a lack of depth or something that isn&#039;t done in the NFL, even recently, is false.  Oh, and I guess you now know that Cotch specifically asked Westhoff if he could return punts...you can&#039;t criticize that, can you?

Now, I&#039;ll explain my Plax point, even though it was obvious.  Your thesis is that the Jets have traded away too many draft picks.  My opinion is that the Jets have been smart in trading draft picks in order to get the best quality players on the team.  Now, I&#039;m contrasting the Jets trade for Edwards to the Giants recent use of 5 high draft picks to try to replace Plax, who was a UFA.  Edwards was traded for Trusnick, Stuckey and 2 draft picks (a 3rd and 5th).  The Giants have used a first, 2 seconds and 2 third rounders to try to round out their WR corps.  Now, no matter what you say, only 3 WRs can get significant playing time, so the Giants have, essentially wasted 2 1st day picks on WRs.

The Jets, on the other hand, had a specific need--a true no. 1 WR to pair with Jerricho (a 4th rounder).  My point is that, in this instance, the Jets were smarter because their gambit of 4 players yielded a bona fide, if troubled, top WR, who was a no. 3 pick in the 1st round.  The players they gave up were a UDFA, a 7th rounder, a prospective 3rd rounder and a fifth.

Now, IMO, the Jets have filled out their WR corps in a more effective manner.  Why?  Because the Jets got a guy who was in the pro bowl and the Giants still have a bunch of question marks, besides Smith.  The Giants have used 5 1st day draft pick to try to get 2 (or maybe 3) bona fide WRs, the Jets sacrificed just 2 picks, and only 1 is a first day pick.  The Giants have all but given up on Moss and they will, at some point, give up on 1 of the others...when they do, I guarantee that I will be able to point out a dozen players that the Giants could have and should have drafted, but didn&#039;t.

So, as I said before, drafting players and hoarding picks often does not result in the ultimate goal, which is to field the best team possible.  So, please, defend the Giants use of 5 first day draft picks for WRs and, then, tell me how the Edwards trade wasn&#039;t a better way to address the position.  IMO, the Giants just should have traded for a top WR, they&#039;re wasting valuable time in Eli&#039;s career saddling him with inconsistent and young WRs.  Getting WRs in free agency is better (even if you have to give up draft picks to do so), that&#039;s why the Pats, for instance, sign WRs for Brady and do not draft them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>igs,</p>
<p>Because I have time, I will explain my position and yours.</p>
<p>As for a top CB returning punts, my point was that it&#8217;s not as unusual as you said.  Revis was just doing it in an emergency, but way back in 2007, Charles Woodson, as he did during most of his career, was a top punt returner.  Your argument that it&#8217;s indicative of a lack of depth or something that isn&#8217;t done in the NFL, even recently, is false.  Oh, and I guess you now know that Cotch specifically asked Westhoff if he could return punts&#8230;you can&#8217;t criticize that, can you?</p>
<p>Now, I&#8217;ll explain my Plax point, even though it was obvious.  Your thesis is that the Jets have traded away too many draft picks.  My opinion is that the Jets have been smart in trading draft picks in order to get the best quality players on the team.  Now, I&#8217;m contrasting the Jets trade for Edwards to the Giants recent use of 5 high draft picks to try to replace Plax, who was a UFA.  Edwards was traded for Trusnick, Stuckey and 2 draft picks (a 3rd and 5th).  The Giants have used a first, 2 seconds and 2 third rounders to try to round out their WR corps.  Now, no matter what you say, only 3 WRs can get significant playing time, so the Giants have, essentially wasted 2 1st day picks on WRs.</p>
<p>The Jets, on the other hand, had a specific need&#8211;a true no. 1 WR to pair with Jerricho (a 4th rounder).  My point is that, in this instance, the Jets were smarter because their gambit of 4 players yielded a bona fide, if troubled, top WR, who was a no. 3 pick in the 1st round.  The players they gave up were a UDFA, a 7th rounder, a prospective 3rd rounder and a fifth.</p>
<p>Now, IMO, the Jets have filled out their WR corps in a more effective manner.  Why?  Because the Jets got a guy who was in the pro bowl and the Giants still have a bunch of question marks, besides Smith.  The Giants have used 5 1st day draft pick to try to get 2 (or maybe 3) bona fide WRs, the Jets sacrificed just 2 picks, and only 1 is a first day pick.  The Giants have all but given up on Moss and they will, at some point, give up on 1 of the others&#8230;when they do, I guarantee that I will be able to point out a dozen players that the Giants could have and should have drafted, but didn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>So, as I said before, drafting players and hoarding picks often does not result in the ultimate goal, which is to field the best team possible.  So, please, defend the Giants use of 5 first day draft picks for WRs and, then, tell me how the Edwards trade wasn&#8217;t a better way to address the position.  IMO, the Giants just should have traded for a top WR, they&#8217;re wasting valuable time in Eli&#8217;s career saddling him with inconsistent and young WRs.  Getting WRs in free agency is better (even if you have to give up draft picks to do so), that&#8217;s why the Pats, for instance, sign WRs for Brady and do not draft them.</p>
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		<title>By: igs</title>
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		<dc:creator>igs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 16:58:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree, 1st round - if it&#039;s there - D-line. It would be coup if the Jets could get Mt. Cody and Arthur Jones in the same draft. Jones is mostly projected as a 2nd round but it&#039;s a possibility. This is also why the Jets need to keep Shep on the bench. They need that 2nd rounder.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, 1st round &#8211; if it&#8217;s there &#8211; D-line. It would be coup if the Jets could get Mt. Cody and Arthur Jones in the same draft. Jones is mostly projected as a 2nd round but it&#8217;s a possibility. This is also why the Jets need to keep Shep on the bench. They need that 2nd rounder.</p>
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		<title>By: Dylan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dylan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 16:04:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah I like Lowery as a player, I just don&#039;t know if he was the speed to start opposite Revis. He seems like more of a nickelback to me. I would love if the Jets could get Cody. If not I think they should take the best DE or CB available, assuming Lito isn&#039;t resigned. I would&#039;t mind a safety either, though though I would use our first rounder on D-line.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah I like Lowery as a player, I just don&#8217;t know if he was the speed to start opposite Revis. He seems like more of a nickelback to me. I would love if the Jets could get Cody. If not I think they should take the best DE or CB available, assuming Lito isn&#8217;t resigned. I would&#8217;t mind a safety either, though though I would use our first rounder on D-line.</p>
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		<title>By: igs</title>
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		<dc:creator>igs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:56:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah. I also think the Jets need to figure out what they want to do with Lowery before the draft. To me he looks like a fast safety. They seem to want to make him into a slow corner. A high pick on the D-line would be great. Mt. Cody anyone? He&#039;d have to get in shape, and who knows with all that money, but the guy is a play maker. And if Lowery is only a nickelback than they need to draft a safety with some good speed and range.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah. I also think the Jets need to figure out what they want to do with Lowery before the draft. To me he looks like a fast safety. They seem to want to make him into a slow corner. A high pick on the D-line would be great. Mt. Cody anyone? He&#8217;d have to get in shape, and who knows with all that money, but the guy is a play maker. And if Lowery is only a nickelback than they need to draft a safety with some good speed and range.</p>
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		<title>By: Dylan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dylan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:34:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>igs,
For once I actually think we agree on something. I would also rather the Jets use their own picks, or even trade down a little if they can get similar value. The Jets already have lots of talent at most position, but they need more depth. I would like to see the Jets solidify their D-line, secondary, and O-line in the draft.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>igs,<br />
For once I actually think we agree on something. I would also rather the Jets use their own picks, or even trade down a little if they can get similar value. The Jets already have lots of talent at most position, but they need more depth. I would like to see the Jets solidify their D-line, secondary, and O-line in the draft.</p>
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		<title>By: igs</title>
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		<dc:creator>igs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:21:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dylan,

Like I said, you can find good logic to bring in any one of those picks (even Shonne Green if they hadn&#039;t already done the Sanchez trade - which I loved). But you just can not do it every year.

I&#039;m also not for stockpiling picks. The Jets still have their #1 pick which should be in the late to early teens and several later picks. Hopefully if they don&#039;t play Shep too much they should have their 2nd. 

What I want Tanning-Bum to do is just sit tight. Look at the draft prospect this season. Value will be there. I guarantee it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dylan,</p>
<p>Like I said, you can find good logic to bring in any one of those picks (even Shonne Green if they hadn&#8217;t already done the Sanchez trade &#8211; which I loved). But you just can not do it every year.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m also not for stockpiling picks. The Jets still have their #1 pick which should be in the late to early teens and several later picks. Hopefully if they don&#8217;t play Shep too much they should have their 2nd. </p>
<p>What I want Tanning-Bum to do is just sit tight. Look at the draft prospect this season. Value will be there. I guarantee it.</p>
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		<title>By: Daily Links: The Cotch Rocket &#124; JetsVine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daily Links: The Cotch Rocket &#124; JetsVine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 08:47:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Johnny Reefer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johnny Reefer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 05:11:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With everything, Draft, FAs, UDFAs.

but i&#039;m not gonna bash what they brought to the team in the last five drafts, we&#039;ve had plenty of great picks and 2 &quot;busts&quot;.</description>
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<p>but i&#8217;m not gonna bash what they brought to the team in the last five drafts, we&#8217;ve had plenty of great picks and 2 &#8220;busts&#8221;.</p>
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