Comments on: Question Three: The Great Schottenheimer Debate

By: GoalieTJ1

GoalieTJ1 — Wed, 25 Nov 2009 04:34:59 +0000

I agree, Schotty needs to go. I do believe he is a great football mind. And probably a great OC, just not for our team and the personel we have. As Rex says and i personally believe, we have the personel to win now; just not with this offensive scheme. I dont want him to be the QB killer he has been known to be (based on previous experiences) with our young QB on hand. Sanchez appears to me to be a down field fieled stretching type of QB, not like farve but more downfiel than pennington. We need to utilize this ability and Callahan is next in line so time for him to step up

By: bleedsgreen&white

bleedsgreen&white — Wed, 25 Nov 2009 03:38:42 +0000

schotty has to go. Im one of those people that defended schotty for years but it glaring now. Its a rookie RUN the ball we were the number one rushing team. run run and run some more. So what their gonna stack the box theyve been doing that all year. He has no rhythm no imagination. And are you honestly going to call a wildcat play agains the pats when their still mad they got pounded last year by it…and do you really think ur going to catch them off guard with such a stupid play..on 3rd and 2?

bottom line hes got to go or rex needs to let him know…hey moron!!!stop being stupid!!!

hes a jerk

By: Bent

Bent — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 13:44:16 +0000

Credit where credit’s due, that great article was written by Jason from nyjetscap.com (the same guy that made the 3rd comment in this thread), but it was a good find by Harlan and an extremely relevant addition to the debate.

By: Brendan

Brendan — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 13:43:17 +0000

WOJF,

That’s saying Clemens ever gets another shot to start. I don’t see that happening. Bad team and QB Killing Offense aside, he really would just make terrible decisions (yes, even worse than Sanchez makes).

By: Fire Tannenbaum (WOJF)

Fire Tannenbaum (WOJF) — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 13:38:25 +0000

Harlan, great job, thanks for providing evidence.

Please send a copy to Woody Johnson.

Reading between the lines there, Clemens struggles certainly seem explainable, I am surprised the writer dismisses him.

If they system explains Sanchez’ struggles would it not also vindicate Clemens somewhat since he had much, much less talent to work with.

He low completion percentage and high INT rate certainly would seem explainable simply be mentioning his two mains recievers, Brad Smith and J McDroppins.

I still believe Clemens will be yet another QB that will leave Schotts system and improve dramatically in his next home, which is completely intuitive considering results of Chad and Farve.

By: Brendan

Brendan — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 12:57:07 +0000

Harlan,

Great stuff. That is some serious evidence right there showing QB’s in Schotty’s system. I’m starting to believe his system is a QB killer. Ok, not starting, but now I am fully behind the QB Killer tag he’s gotten.

I mean, Favre’s injury might’ve made his stats a little worse, but he was not playing as well as ‘07 or ‘09 until that point when he got hurt.

I’m in favor of Callahan stepping up for a few reasons. He has been working with the O-line for a few years now and has instituted his zone blocking scheme that he would use in his offense. He’s had experience running an offense. It would play well to our personnel as he likes a power running game and vertical passing game (and with our receiving corps we could easily pull that off). He has head coaching experience so Rex really could leave his O-coordinator to his own devices this go-round. It would be the easiest transition for the running game and Sanchez is a smart kid I think he would be able to handle learning Callahan’s offense (because Callahan would have the common sense to dumb it down a bit, rely on his running game, and let Sanchez slowly develop a larger role…as he earns it).

By: Jetsrdone

Jetsrdone — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 11:31:22 +0000

Basset, you stated that Jets fans love to call for the head of the offensive coordinator and said that it’s like in our DNA or something. However, the only other offensive coordinator that I can recall Jets fans hating is Paul Hackett who is not coincidentally connected to Brian Schottenheimer..Remember, Paul Hackett was Marty Schottenheimer’s (Brian’s father) offensive coordinator for years at Kansas City….I wouldn’t be surprised if Brian learned from Hackett….Is there any other offensive coordinator who was vilified by Jets fans because I can’t think of any?

By: Eddie DiGio

Eddie DiGio — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 09:48:02 +0000

Harlan-that was OUTSTANDING, the best post Ive ever read on this site

By: Dean Barbella

Dean Barbella — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 07:28:45 +0000

Jetsrdone and Jetsrdone,

I remember Rex doing all the coach-speak about how Schotty will be a head coach someday and how he trusts everyone to do their jobs. Given, his last statement. Let’s say the writings on the wall. Who’s the next Jets Offensive coordinator?

Dean

By: Eddie DiGio

Eddie DiGio — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 06:12:25 +0000

Bassett-
“Never go against a Sicilian when death is on the line!!!!!”AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA..AHAH..HA (drops dead)

JetsRdone-
I heard the exact same thing, Rex was stuck with Schotty this season or no job. I heard that from people who have family that work for the Jets.