Comments on: Link: King on the Jets http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/12/07/link-king-on-the-jets/ Ranting and Raving about the Gang Green Sun, 12 Feb 2012 08:20:29 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Brendan http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/12/07/link-king-on-the-jets/#comment-208508 Brendan Tue, 08 Dec 2009 01:01:02 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/12/07/link-king-on-the-jets/#comment-208508 **gave up a lot FOR him **gave up a lot FOR him

]]> By: Brendan http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/12/07/link-king-on-the-jets/#comment-208507 Brendan Tue, 08 Dec 2009 01:00:33 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/12/07/link-king-on-the-jets/#comment-208507 I wanted Long badly in that draft. Virginia plays a 3-4 so his transition would have been easy. Whatever, I like our young DEs. D-Rob probably got that reputation because Jets fans (as is their nature) needed a scapegoat. He was a 4th pick and we gave up a lot from him, so anything less than Warren Sapp would be looked down upon. That dissatisfaction snowballed into people believing he was a bad player. He was just put in an unfortunate position where his build wouldn't let him play the position he inevitably had to play (NT). I always admired how he played every game, even with that chronic knee condition. And he also gave me his gloves after a practice at Hofstra a few years back, so he gets bonus points. I wanted Long badly in that draft. Virginia plays a 3-4 so his transition would have been easy. Whatever, I like our young DEs.

D-Rob probably got that reputation because Jets fans (as is their nature) needed a scapegoat. He was a 4th pick and we gave up a lot from him, so anything less than Warren Sapp would be looked down upon. That dissatisfaction snowballed into people believing he was a bad player. He was just put in an unfortunate position where his build wouldn’t let him play the position he inevitably had to play (NT). I always admired how he played every game, even with that chronic knee condition. And he also gave me his gloves after a practice at Hofstra a few years back, so he gets bonus points.

]]> By: Bent http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/12/07/link-king-on-the-jets/#comment-208502 Bent Tue, 08 Dec 2009 00:15:32 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/12/07/link-king-on-the-jets/#comment-208502 Chris Long hasn't been the player I thought he would be either, but he should have been drafted by a 3-4 team. I wonder if both him and Gholston would be doing better if the Rams drafted VG and the Jets got Long. D-Rob was never "routinely blown back on every snap". I have no idea why he has that reputation. Chris Long hasn’t been the player I thought he would be either, but he should have been drafted by a 3-4 team. I wonder if both him and Gholston would be doing better if the Rams drafted VG and the Jets got Long.

D-Rob was never “routinely blown back on every snap”. I have no idea why he has that reputation.

]]> By: EastSide http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/12/07/link-king-on-the-jets/#comment-208500 EastSide Mon, 07 Dec 2009 23:53:31 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/12/07/link-king-on-the-jets/#comment-208500 If it makes anyone feel any better, Glenn Dorsey (who was drafted one place in front of Gholston) has looked every part the bust that Gholston has. Once touted to be a once-in-a-decade DT in the mold of Sapp, this season he's resembled the much hated Dewayne Robertson- getting routinely blown back on every snap. If it makes anyone feel any better, Glenn Dorsey (who was drafted one place in front of Gholston) has looked every part the bust that Gholston has. Once touted to be a once-in-a-decade DT in the mold of Sapp, this season he’s resembled the much hated Dewayne Robertson- getting routinely blown back on every snap.

]]> By: SackDance99 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/12/07/link-king-on-the-jets/#comment-208443 SackDance99 Mon, 07 Dec 2009 20:06:40 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/12/07/link-king-on-the-jets/#comment-208443 Can we officially retire the "watch him go to the Pats and kill us" rap? Didn't work with Hobson, Baker, Ventrone (who might have been the best of the recent raids), Mickens, etc. When BB went to the Pats he raided the Jets roster to great effect, since then the Jets have had the better end of the Pats-Jets shuttle with Ty Law especially. And, in the long history of the Pats-Jets rivalry, nothing beats the Jets stealing C-Mart away. If the Pats are crazy enough to sign Gholston, then let them. Kerry Rhodes, on the other hand, would hurt because he's actually a very good player, just not a consistent one. I would give Gholston one last chance. Rex has had a full year to see what he can do and there is a chance that in the off-season VG can work on the skills that Rex thinks could make him a productive NFL player. I just don't think that will ever include rushing the passer, as I said well-before he was drafted. He's just not a natural pass rusher. IMO, if he could bulk up to 290 lbs or more, he could be a good DL and he'd have fewer things to work on. Forget his ever being a WILL or SAM, he just doesn't have what it takes to play LB in the NFL. Can we officially retire the “watch him go to the Pats and kill us” rap? Didn’t work with Hobson, Baker, Ventrone (who might have been the best of the recent raids), Mickens, etc. When BB went to the Pats he raided the Jets roster to great effect, since then the Jets have had the better end of the Pats-Jets shuttle with Ty Law especially. And, in the long history of the Pats-Jets rivalry, nothing beats the Jets stealing C-Mart away. If the Pats are crazy enough to sign Gholston, then let them. Kerry Rhodes, on the other hand, would hurt because he’s actually a very good player, just not a consistent one.

I would give Gholston one last chance. Rex has had a full year to see what he can do and there is a chance that in the off-season VG can work on the skills that Rex thinks could make him a productive NFL player. I just don’t think that will ever include rushing the passer, as I said well-before he was drafted. He’s just not a natural pass rusher. IMO, if he could bulk up to 290 lbs or more, he could be a good DL and he’d have fewer things to work on. Forget his ever being a WILL or SAM, he just doesn’t have what it takes to play LB in the NFL.

]]> By: Bent http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/12/07/link-king-on-the-jets/#comment-208441 Bent Mon, 07 Dec 2009 20:04:53 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/12/07/link-king-on-the-jets/#comment-208441 Yeah, JR, two different things. One established player not playing as well as we know he can, one young player not playing as well as we hope he can. While I agree that Gholston makes absolutely no impact whatsoever, they probably wouldn't have won in weeks 1 and 3 if he'd played poorly and he doesn't consistently have a negative impact when he's in there. His injury couldn't have come at a worse time, because he could do with the reps and wasn't hurting the team while he was out there. Yeah, JR, two different things. One established player not playing as well as we know he can, one young player not playing as well as we hope he can.

While I agree that Gholston makes absolutely no impact whatsoever, they probably wouldn’t have won in weeks 1 and 3 if he’d played poorly and he doesn’t consistently have a negative impact when he’s in there. His injury couldn’t have come at a worse time, because he could do with the reps and wasn’t hurting the team while he was out there.

]]> By: Brendan http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/12/07/link-king-on-the-jets/#comment-208440 Brendan Mon, 07 Dec 2009 19:58:33 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/12/07/link-king-on-the-jets/#comment-208440 Everyone needs to calm down with the trade calls. You make it seem like people would be lining up to take Gholston from us. I don't think they'd take him back at OSU. As for Rhodes, I can guarantee that teams WOULD be lining up to get him. He is a good player. If other teams are praying that you overreact and get rid of a guy, that's telling you that you probably shouldn't do it. Everyone needs to calm down with the trade calls. You make it seem like people would be lining up to take Gholston from us. I don’t think they’d take him back at OSU.

As for Rhodes, I can guarantee that teams WOULD be lining up to get him. He is a good player. If other teams are praying that you overreact and get rid of a guy, that’s telling you that you probably shouldn’t do it.

]]> By: Zartan http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/12/07/link-king-on-the-jets/#comment-208438 Zartan Mon, 07 Dec 2009 19:51:56 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/12/07/link-king-on-the-jets/#comment-208438 JesusRevis, i was thinking the same thing but if Rhodes continues to play lame ball then bill can have him for a pick. JesusRevis, i was thinking the same thing but if Rhodes continues to play lame ball then bill can have him for a pick.

]]> By: JesusRevis http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/12/07/link-king-on-the-jets/#comment-208437 JesusRevis Mon, 07 Dec 2009 19:51:11 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/12/07/link-king-on-the-jets/#comment-208437 Its unfair to compare Rhodes' level of disapointment to Gholstons. Rhodes contributes every game and plays the majority of the snaps. Gholston makes absolutely no impact whatsoever. Rhodes was a 4th round pick, Gholston was 6th overall. Its unfair to compare Rhodes’ level of disapointment to Gholstons. Rhodes contributes every game and plays the majority of the snaps. Gholston makes absolutely no impact whatsoever. Rhodes was a 4th round pick, Gholston was 6th overall.

]]> By: Bent http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/12/07/link-king-on-the-jets/#comment-208436 Bent Mon, 07 Dec 2009 19:40:52 +0000 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/12/07/link-king-on-the-jets/#comment-208436 Yeah, that's why I won't advocate trading them unless it's really necessary (ie if they were being a negative influence or legitimately keeping playing time from someone better - as disappointing as both have been, I don't think that's the case). You don't want to cut off the nose to spite the face. Of course, they could insert a clause to prevent a team from trading him on to an AFC East team. Yeah, that’s why I won’t advocate trading them unless it’s really necessary (ie if they were being a negative influence or legitimately keeping playing time from someone better – as disappointing as both have been, I don’t think that’s the case). You don’t want to cut off the nose to spite the face.

Of course, they could insert a clause to prevent a team from trading him on to an AFC East team.

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