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		<title>By: WOJF</title>
		<link>http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/12/19/audible-we-are-all-witnesses/#comment-212126</link>
		<dc:creator>WOJF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 15:14:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wrote after about 8 games that we were not only witnessding one of the best Jet defenders abut one of the NFL&#039;s best in history, a future Hall of Famer whcih pretty much says it all.

That written, I truly believe Klecko os HOF worthy too so I will wimp out and call it a tie.

In truth it is very difficult to compare different positions in different eras.

Gastineau is not in the conversation. Even during his monster season the intelligent teams gameplanned by running the ball right at him. 

A truly great defender does everything great, Mark was one dimensional.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wrote after about 8 games that we were not only witnessding one of the best Jet defenders abut one of the NFL&#8217;s best in history, a future Hall of Famer whcih pretty much says it all.</p>
<p>That written, I truly believe Klecko os HOF worthy too so I will wimp out and call it a tie.</p>
<p>In truth it is very difficult to compare different positions in different eras.</p>
<p>Gastineau is not in the conversation. Even during his monster season the intelligent teams gameplanned by running the ball right at him. </p>
<p>A truly great defender does everything great, Mark was one dimensional.</p>
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		<title>By: greg sec 130</title>
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		<dc:creator>greg sec 130</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 13:24:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Again Harlan, take away the BS  that came with him and Gastineau&#039;s 1984 was better than any single season Klecko ever had. That is the discussion here, and I don&#039;t think on a Jets blog we should be limited to holding our pom poms about the Falcon game and holding off all other discussion until next year. This is what its all about. I totally respect Harlan&#039;s opinion that Revis&#039; 2009 is outdoing Mark&#039;s 1984, and that Klecko was so much more dominant throughout his career than Mark. I just think that Mark&#039;s one year was a perfect storm of his one-trick pony-ness, and that 2) Revis season is not over yet, so it can get better or worse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again Harlan, take away the BS  that came with him and Gastineau&#8217;s 1984 was better than any single season Klecko ever had. That is the discussion here, and I don&#8217;t think on a Jets blog we should be limited to holding our pom poms about the Falcon game and holding off all other discussion until next year. This is what its all about. I totally respect Harlan&#8217;s opinion that Revis&#8217; 2009 is outdoing Mark&#8217;s 1984, and that Klecko was so much more dominant throughout his career than Mark. I just think that Mark&#8217;s one year was a perfect storm of his one-trick pony-ness, and that 2) Revis season is not over yet, so it can get better or worse.</p>
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		<title>By: steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 08:31:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://talksportsphilly.com/?p=1465

^^^ Week 15 Nfl Picks and analysis against the pointspread</description>
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<p>^^^ Week 15 Nfl Picks and analysis against the pointspread</p>
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		<title>By: DSmizzle</title>
		<link>http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/12/19/audible-we-are-all-witnesses/#comment-212094</link>
		<dc:creator>DSmizzle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 07:45:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey broskis - long time, no post (been busy as ever at work and trying to get my affairs in order before my fiance pops out twin boys - due date March 28 but that&#039;s unreliable with twins).

Anyway, Revis is NO DOUBT having one of the best seasons ever for a JETS defender, and comparing him to Gastineau is a bit unfair because Gastineau was &#039;involved&#039; in every play (even when doubled, a pass-rusher can get through and get a sack - and realistically you can&#039;t double him all game anyway, and a sack is obviously a statistical plus, whereas when a top-flight CB is locking down the other team&#039;s top WR - he&#039;s not getting any balls thrown his way - or very few - far less of an opportunity than the number of chances Gastineau had to get a good pash rush on the other teams&#039; QBs.)

As for comparing his season THIS YEAR to Woodson&#039;s, that&#039;s another story.  I&#039;d take Revis the player (the way he&#039;s played this year) over Woodson in his best-ever season, because he&#039;s a better lockdown corner.  I also think Revis is a pretty big dude for a lock-down CB and can tackle pretty damned good for a guy who can shut out top WR&#039;s the way gentle &#039;lil Deion Sanders did during his hey-days.  That being said, if Woodson is even &#039;very good&#039; in coverage, when you look at those other stats, they&#039;re pretty damn impressive.  So I definitely would rather have Revis on my team, but as for DPOY, I can&#039;t say ANYONE in the NFL should definitely get it over Woodson this year based on his stats (again, presuming he&#039;s &#039;good&#039; as a pure cover man).

What a damned good player Revis is though - we are lucky to have this guy folks.  Ditto &#039;lil Leon - I miss that guy.  Great players - and from what I know - even better people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey broskis &#8211; long time, no post (been busy as ever at work and trying to get my affairs in order before my fiance pops out twin boys &#8211; due date March 28 but that&#8217;s unreliable with twins).</p>
<p>Anyway, Revis is NO DOUBT having one of the best seasons ever for a JETS defender, and comparing him to Gastineau is a bit unfair because Gastineau was &#8216;involved&#8217; in every play (even when doubled, a pass-rusher can get through and get a sack &#8211; and realistically you can&#8217;t double him all game anyway, and a sack is obviously a statistical plus, whereas when a top-flight CB is locking down the other team&#8217;s top WR &#8211; he&#8217;s not getting any balls thrown his way &#8211; or very few &#8211; far less of an opportunity than the number of chances Gastineau had to get a good pash rush on the other teams&#8217; QBs.)</p>
<p>As for comparing his season THIS YEAR to Woodson&#8217;s, that&#8217;s another story.  I&#8217;d take Revis the player (the way he&#8217;s played this year) over Woodson in his best-ever season, because he&#8217;s a better lockdown corner.  I also think Revis is a pretty big dude for a lock-down CB and can tackle pretty damned good for a guy who can shut out top WR&#8217;s the way gentle &#8216;lil Deion Sanders did during his hey-days.  That being said, if Woodson is even &#8216;very good&#8217; in coverage, when you look at those other stats, they&#8217;re pretty damn impressive.  So I definitely would rather have Revis on my team, but as for DPOY, I can&#8217;t say ANYONE in the NFL should definitely get it over Woodson this year based on his stats (again, presuming he&#8217;s &#8216;good&#8217; as a pure cover man).</p>
<p>What a damned good player Revis is though &#8211; we are lucky to have this guy folks.  Ditto &#8216;lil Leon &#8211; I miss that guy.  Great players &#8211; and from what I know &#8211; even better people.</p>
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		<title>By: wyojim</title>
		<link>http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/12/19/audible-we-are-all-witnesses/#comment-212087</link>
		<dc:creator>wyojim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 06:22:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eighty percent of the time a deep ball is thrown Revis&#039; way, the *offensive* player has to play defense to keep Revis from intercepting it.

This is certainly the best I&#039;ve ever seen a Jets DB play, in 30-plus years of watching the team.

Gastineau, however jacked up he might have been, dominated at times. So did Abraham. But not for an entire season the way Revis has done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eighty percent of the time a deep ball is thrown Revis&#8217; way, the *offensive* player has to play defense to keep Revis from intercepting it.</p>
<p>This is certainly the best I&#8217;ve ever seen a Jets DB play, in 30-plus years of watching the team.</p>
<p>Gastineau, however jacked up he might have been, dominated at times. So did Abraham. But not for an entire season the way Revis has done.</p>
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		<title>By: jon in bk</title>
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		<dc:creator>jon in bk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 05:26:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not saying I wouldn&#039;t take Revis if offered either player right now.  I can even see the argument for him for DPOY, having seen him play every game.  

I just think it&#039;s tough to expect writers across the country to vote for him when Woodson has been so great, also, and has a more impressive stat-line.  

And to clarify from earlier, tackles is definitely a meaningless stat for CB&#039;s.  A great tackler like Woodson, though, who gets involved in a lot of plays that don&#039;t involve getting beaten in coverage, is clearly an asset.  He&#039;s making tackles up in the box, sacking the QB, doing it all.  

I&#039;ve only seen him a few games, but from what i&#039;ve seen he&#039;s been just as impressive as DR.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not saying I wouldn&#8217;t take Revis if offered either player right now.  I can even see the argument for him for DPOY, having seen him play every game.  </p>
<p>I just think it&#8217;s tough to expect writers across the country to vote for him when Woodson has been so great, also, and has a more impressive stat-line.  </p>
<p>And to clarify from earlier, tackles is definitely a meaningless stat for CB&#8217;s.  A great tackler like Woodson, though, who gets involved in a lot of plays that don&#8217;t involve getting beaten in coverage, is clearly an asset.  He&#8217;s making tackles up in the box, sacking the QB, doing it all.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve only seen him a few games, but from what i&#8217;ve seen he&#8217;s been just as impressive as DR.</p>
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		<title>By: Harlan Lachman</title>
		<link>http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/12/19/audible-we-are-all-witnesses/#comment-212055</link>
		<dc:creator>Harlan Lachman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 03:46:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bent, while Gastineau got HIS sacks, he made sure the rest of the league knew about it. His selfishness cost us the playoffs against Cleveland.

I guess he was a two trick pony. He could make sacks and act like a jerk with the best of them. I wonder if he still has Nielsen&#039;s name tatooed on his butt.

Klecko, much like Revis, just dominated.

h</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bent, while Gastineau got HIS sacks, he made sure the rest of the league knew about it. His selfishness cost us the playoffs against Cleveland.</p>
<p>I guess he was a two trick pony. He could make sacks and act like a jerk with the best of them. I wonder if he still has Nielsen&#8217;s name tatooed on his butt.</p>
<p>Klecko, much like Revis, just dominated.</p>
<p>h</p>
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		<title>By: Eddie DiGio</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eddie DiGio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 03:30:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Darelle has only been in the league 3 years and has already climbed to the top of the mountain. He was damn good his rookie season, he was a Pro Bowler last year,then he dominated the recievers at the Pro Bowl, and this year he has been so dominant I dont ever remember a corner who can do what he does. He covers, tackles, plays the deep ball, breaks up the short routes, its just unreal.

Its not DR&#039;s fault its only his 3 rd year, so right now its impossible to call him the best Def Jet ever. But barring catastrophic injury, there is no doubt in my mind he will be not only the best Jet defender ever, but the greatest Jet of all time. I truly feel that he will revolutionize the CB position the way LT did for OLBs. He has a chance to be the greatest defensive back of all time if he keeps this up. That is how much I think of Darrelle. Cool guy when I met him at Hofstra, loved to talk up football and is a humble cat.

Sit back and enjoy, cause we are witnesses to a possible once in a lifetime player</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Darelle has only been in the league 3 years and has already climbed to the top of the mountain. He was damn good his rookie season, he was a Pro Bowler last year,then he dominated the recievers at the Pro Bowl, and this year he has been so dominant I dont ever remember a corner who can do what he does. He covers, tackles, plays the deep ball, breaks up the short routes, its just unreal.</p>
<p>Its not DR&#8217;s fault its only his 3 rd year, so right now its impossible to call him the best Def Jet ever. But barring catastrophic injury, there is no doubt in my mind he will be not only the best Jet defender ever, but the greatest Jet of all time. I truly feel that he will revolutionize the CB position the way LT did for OLBs. He has a chance to be the greatest defensive back of all time if he keeps this up. That is how much I think of Darrelle. Cool guy when I met him at Hofstra, loved to talk up football and is a humble cat.</p>
<p>Sit back and enjoy, cause we are witnesses to a possible once in a lifetime player</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 03:09:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that is the perfect point Harlan.  As a one season deal this is likely the best.  You cant compare Revis to Klecko (or anyone else for that matter who was a Jet for a long time) for a career, but for one season he has just been awesome and I doubt will ever play at this peak level again.  I was young when I watched Klecko and Gastineau, but I never recall having conversations with older Jets fans who ever made it seem like Klecko was a slam dunk HOFer off of one season.  It was always the fact that he was really good at multiple roles and multiple positions.  He is one of those players that people who are not following the Jets 24-7 probably view after the career and say &quot;this guy really deserves consideration for the Hall&quot; after seeing a compilation of versatile pro bowl level play for a long period. Revis, in just his third year, is getting comments from all kinds of commentators, players, and coaches that you are watching a HOF career take off and how he has the potential to be one of the best ever at the position.  I have never head that about a young Jets player and I doubt anyone has heard it about a Jets player unless they were around for Namath.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that is the perfect point Harlan.  As a one season deal this is likely the best.  You cant compare Revis to Klecko (or anyone else for that matter who was a Jet for a long time) for a career, but for one season he has just been awesome and I doubt will ever play at this peak level again.  I was young when I watched Klecko and Gastineau, but I never recall having conversations with older Jets fans who ever made it seem like Klecko was a slam dunk HOFer off of one season.  It was always the fact that he was really good at multiple roles and multiple positions.  He is one of those players that people who are not following the Jets 24-7 probably view after the career and say &#8220;this guy really deserves consideration for the Hall&#8221; after seeing a compilation of versatile pro bowl level play for a long period. Revis, in just his third year, is getting comments from all kinds of commentators, players, and coaches that you are watching a HOF career take off and how he has the potential to be one of the best ever at the position.  I have never head that about a young Jets player and I doubt anyone has heard it about a Jets player unless they were around for Namath.</p>
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		<title>By: WW85</title>
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		<dc:creator>WW85</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 01:23:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Revis, Gastineau, Klecko. How do you pick one of those guys? I&#039;m sure most of us start with Klecko because we all freaking love the guy to no end. 3 different positons. Klecko was the greatest NT I ever saw play this game &amp; Gastineau the greatest DE I ever saw play. They are the only Jets I can say that about. I havent seen enough of Woddson this year to really compare him to Revis, just like Aikman hasn&#039;t seen Revis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Revis, Gastineau, Klecko. How do you pick one of those guys? I&#8217;m sure most of us start with Klecko because we all freaking love the guy to no end. 3 different positons. Klecko was the greatest NT I ever saw play this game &amp; Gastineau the greatest DE I ever saw play. They are the only Jets I can say that about. I havent seen enough of Woddson this year to really compare him to Revis, just like Aikman hasn&#8217;t seen Revis.</p>
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