I think I’d rather gouge my eye with a grapefruit spoon rather than talk about trading for Brandon Marshall, but Mike Lombardi at NFP won’t let me. This morning, Lombo is reporting that he’s hearing rumors that the Jets are still interested in Denver WR Brandon Marshall.
I keep hearing from my Jets sources that they’re having internal discussions regarding Brandon Marshall and would love to put together a package of players that might entice the Broncos and still keep their first-round pick.
GAHHHHHHHHHH!
This dude was the INTENDED TARGET in the Darrent Williams murder.
Let that sink in. So this guy is alive and a decent human being is dead, because — well — Brandon Marshall acted like a bitch on New Year’s Eve, even inciting gang members to bring their guns. Guns which were used to murder his teammate. Nice.
Last year, the Broncos wanted David Harris from the Jets to make this move. If David Harris is part of a trade for a punk like Marshall, I’m going to riot.
I hate this idea for a variety of reasons, and I’ll detail them later, but here’s what I will say for now. Jerricho Cotchery is a damn good receiver, and I’d imagine that he’d be moved in the trade if they do this deal. That’s a HUGE mistake.
Second, Mike Tannenbaum likes to talk in flowery prose about “looking at the whole person” and pat his own organization on the back for moves like Laveranues Coles and others like Kris Jenkins. It’s clear that this organization now thinks it’s Boys Town and can redeem lost souls.
This move is nothing like those moves. The “whole person” is a douchebag, in this case Mike. Marshall is “manly” enough to (allegedly) beat women he’s been in relationships with, ON MULTIPLE OCCASIONS. Marshall has also been cited for shooting a handgun at his own father. He’s a real class act. How would the team not bring in Matt Jones over substance issues last year but be willing to take a chance with this guy? It makes absolutely no sense to me.
Marshall is an incredible talent, to be sure, but it’s also carried onto the field. There was that video of him dogging it in practice, and then there was the benching he received in a game with playoff consequences. His actions, alleged or otherwise have proven, he’s trash. Strong words? Am I worried about libel? No, because the truth is an absolute defense.
Cotchery’s constant toe drags and underneath receptions during the playoffs kept us in contention. I feel like he singlehandedly forced Marvin Lewis to burn his challenge flags. The man is a master of his craft and a first down machine. He was a mentor for Stuckey and the respect that the players have for him oozes at every interview opportunity.
If he goes, I don’t know how I won’t vomit uncontrollably.
AKA….Drew,
Where did I say that he is not an elite talent? i said that he is not a top 5 PLAYER in the league like RJF insisted he was. I do think he is a top 10 receiver, I just don’t think he is a top 5 talent. He gets thrown to an insane amount of times. He is a very good player, dont get me wrong, but the system he plays in pads his stats a lot.
I would say he is like the 4th best wr. Fitzgerald Andre and Welker are the only guys I would rather have at that position.
Almost certain Cotchery would go in this deal. Braylon and J-Co ain’t a bad starting tandem…what the team needs is a SLOT WR. That’s where the draft comes into play. Brad Smith could have been, so could David Clowney, but neither really showed anything good in the slot last year (and Smith basically was only under center for the end of the year). We need to be able to play with three WR’s out there, and I know I sound arrogant, but without Ben Hartsock, Robert Turner, and Wayne Hunter.
Maybe I misread your point but you did say guys like Sydney Rice and Greg Jennings were better and they just are not.
Plus Denver’s system has changed since 2 years ago and he has had 3 years with 100+ catches and 1,000 yards… ( not to mention games missed for suspension) without a decent player playing opposite of him like the Moss/Welker, Jennings/Driver, Fitz/Boldin.
Trade Braylon not Cotch….there is no way you can get rid of Cotch.
No way is Marshall as good as Sidney Rice! Rice was rated as the #2 receiver on profootballfocus.com. Marshall was rated as the #32 WR! He is a good player, but he is not a top 5 WR. He is a product of Denver’s system. Gaffney had 213 receiving yards when Marshall was out!
Is Gaffney an elite WR as well?
im sorry but Marshall is 2x better than cotchery. Marshall is a FREAK who can take over games by himself look at what he did against the Giants. Look at what he did when he set the receiving yds record against the Colts. This is a go to guy. Tanny lets get it going.
Dylan, (yeah dude?…….. yeah?) Greg Jennings huh, Calvin Johnson, yep, Sydney Rice ok, Randy Moss sure, all of those are signs of being delusional my friend. Really it is!
Dude, as Drew stated 3yrs w/ 100 catch seasons. Tell me which one of those WR’s that you named has that kind of production. Really dude I live off of stats not affection. In the beginning of the year I was on Andre Johnson hard, real hard! He’s probably the only person worthy. He’s another person that has great speed, superior strength to crush CB’s and has good hands. Brandon Marshall has great hands, good speed, and will dominate blocks. He catches everything, rarely and I mean rarely do you see balls bounce off his hands. Larry Fitz has everything, but its not too many times that I see Larry blow by anyone on a fly route. He out physicals you and out jumps you…. But he is a precise route runner. Everybody else you named are 2nd tier WR’s
“How would the team not bring in Matt Jones over substance issues last year but be willing to take a chance with this guy?”
Uh, because he’s nine bajillion times better than Matt Jones?
I don’t want Marshall, but comparing him to Matt freaking Jones is ridiculous. He may be a bad dude but the guy is an absolute monster on the field.
Doesn’t anyone care about character anymore? look wat T.O did to all the teams he was on. he was without question a great receiver and he was a cancer o every team he was on. Come on guys. We took Braylon & Cromartie. Don’t we have enough projects on our team now? He’s been nothing but a distraction to Denver.
RJF your right on the money…tho i dont agree marshall is a top 5 player in the league..i do think without a doubt hes a top 5 WR in the league..we all know his issues but the guy delivers on sunday..hes a matchup nightmare..and hes only 25 yrs old..you guys crack me up..cotchery is a very solid number 2 WR but cmon..r u kidding me?i love cotch too but not enuff not to put in a package for marshall..remeber that marshall issues with the denver organization stems from getting paid peanuts for his production…i do agree harris is a deal breaker..but as long as we can perserve our draft picks this year and fill our needs id trade for marshall in a heartbeat…A HEARTBEAT!!!!
Dylan, You can’t be more wrong on your top 5. You got a one year wonder the just did good because of Farve’s arm in your top 5 (Sidney Rice)? Not to mention the always injured Calvin Johnson, give me a break. BM is a top 5 receiver no doubt and the Jets obviously need another receiver because they didn’t rank in the top 25 in passing/receiving offense last year. I wouldn’t like to part with Cotch but the Jets need better receivers to help them break the top 10 in passing offense. Towards the end of the year teams stopped doubling Edwards on the deep ball cause he drops it 60% of the time. I say we package Edwards and our first round pick for marshall and let that be that…But if the Broncos really want cotch, I wouldn’t mind us sending cotch and our second round pick for BM.
If Brandon Marshall is obtained in exchange for a package that includes either Jerricho Cotchery or David Harris, I am going to seriously rethink my allegiance to this team. And I love the Jets. I also think the low-key but incredibly solid Cotchery is my favorite player.
Do we really want to keep on bringing in guys with issues off of the field? A couple guys is alright, but eventually its going to hurt this teams chemistry. Bringing in problem players hasn’t worked for the Bengals or the Cowboys.
We trade David Harris for Marshall and I’m gonna have a stroke
DH is one of our CORE guys. The kid is good enough to build an entire defense around
Corey,
Edwards and our 1st round pick? You have got to be kidding. I wouldn’t even trade Edwards and a second for Marshall. Marshall is very good, but he is much worse than his stats. Marshall also is going to cost way more and has a ton off issues off the field. I would take him, but only at a very reduced cost.
Did you see Rice in the playoffs? He was getting double covered and was still torching other teams. He is a much better deep threat than Marshall, which is why I think he is better.
Hey Dylan which players have the jets bought in that have been chemistry killers or distractions?? maybe we have been watchin different teams over the years…our team character is in a different stratoshpere than the bengals!! lol
GangreenTed,
There haven’t been any problems yet, but if they keep bringing in guys like Marshall there will be. Did you watch that video of Marshall during practice last year? The guy is a selfish crybaby who beats women. Just the kind of guy we want on our team right?
umm sidney rice?? are we basing one year of production vs.. 3 straight 100 reception years..cmon!! theyre the same age and same size but totally not the same production..what did rice do before favre came in..i know marshall still caught 100 balls with a scrub like orton throwing the ball…just because rice is a downfield threat doesnt make him a better reciever..
Make no mistake about it. marshall will absolutely kill the chemistry
if marshall was such a team distraction why did the players vote him the team captain??
so you’re saying he is not a distraction? what planet are you from?
GangreenTed,
Marshall turns 26 this month and Rice turns 24 in September. They are not the same age. And yes, Rice took longer to develop into a great player, but that doesn’t mean he isn’t better. It normally takes receivers about 2 years before they develop into a great player. It only took Marshall one year, but he also had Cutler throwing him the ball instead of Tavaris Jackson.
If anyone thinks that BM can be had for less than Edwards and our 29th, I think they’re dead wrong. If Seattle is offering them their mid first round pick, why would the broncos give him to us for anything less than our late, late first round pick and a player? I just don’t see them pulling the trigger on Edwards and a second rounder when Edwards contract is up at the end of the year and he drops more deep balls than he catches. I bet you they want Cotch and our first which I think would be a big mistake on our part. Cotch is clutch for us and I would be upset to see him go. I don’t think that Tanny will give away our flush hand for a joker, but hey you never know… and I won’t be sad to see us give up our first round pick and edwards for BM… I think the risk is worth the possible reward. We can’t do much worse with BM and minus Edwards. I think this would be a win-win for both organizations.
Corey,
You know Marshall’s contract is up at the end of the year too, right? But that doesn’t matter because trading our 1st and our #1 receiver for Marshall would be an absolutely horrendous move.
Last I heard its BM thats available not Rice. Also, do you know BM JK? The way you write about him is like you went to school with the dude and he beat your girlfriend or something. The guy has learned from his mistakes and is looking for a new team to start over on. Look at what Randy Moss did for New England. He had the same label and he made that team championship caliber, no doubt about it. So your telling us we should be happy with ranking worse than 5/6 of the league in passing/receiving? Come on now.
Corey, Seriously? You must be joking. Do you know him? Don’t bring my girlfriend, wife or anybody inot this you idiot. He ogt one of his teammates killed. He is a constant distraction. He’s been fined by his team numerous times.
Yes Dylan I do know that, but that is not keeping other teams from offering him their low first round picks. I would give up my first round pick anyday for a proven top-5 receiver with baggage. He is proven and the potential first round pick is a prospect. Look at how good Gholston is doing for us. BM is no bust.
Corey,
And the way that you defend him makes it look like he is your brother. What makes you think that he has learned from his mistakes? Marshall has been getting arrested or in trouble with the law his whole career!
Corey – they can sign him as an RFA and it will only cost the 29th pick so there is no sense in trading MORE than that.
I was making a point JK, stop crying… I did not say anything bad about your family, I was making a point that no one really knows him, so leave what you hear about him in the media out and judge him based on what he does on the field. I also wouldn’t be so quick to point the finger at him for getting his friend killed. Again, you weren’t there to see what really happened, so its all hearsay from the media who blows things way outta proportion to get people to read their media and to sell papers and ads.
Corey,
Yeah obviously me having a problem with a dude who beats on women is personal, right? I mean who cares if he is satan himself as long as he can catch the football…
Corey,
so I guess he is just a victim of the media, huh? Poor Brandon. It’s funny how guys like Thomas Jones or Peyton Manning and so many other Pro’s seem to b so lucky to avoifd that. You ‘re a saint Corey.
The only thing I care about the Jets putting themselves in their best possible position to win a championship while our team is still relatively young. I think BM puts us in a way better position. I don’t know the dude, I am talking purely off of how I have seen him play. The media is always gonna find someone to pick on, so if its not BM, than they will talk about Edwards buying 400 bottles of champagne or some crap. I am media myself, so I know how the media game works.
His numbers improved a lot this year in terms of percentage of balls thrown, but they were still not that great. Since a lot of them were short passes whereas Braylon usually catches the ball downfield, Braylon wasn’t far behind at all on yards per target.
His raw numbers are good, but he is thrown to a lot more than any other WR in the league. It’s not the same as a runner who makes yards by just having a ton of carries because you still have to get separation just to get thrown to, but “he catches everything” is an exaggeration because he caught only about 60% of his targets (and much less last year) and had the same number (or more, depending whose stats you use) of drops as Braylon.
We had a great team going last year. I wish they’d stop replacing elements that we know can succeed with guys who might not fit in any better.
Guys, I think we’re all forgetting who our coach is. There is no way he is gonna let David Harris go for a wide receiver. I don’t care who it is, you can forget it. They said they are trying to put a package together to get Brandon. I would think if Tanny even suggests Harris, Rex will leg drop him
Corey,
Lol yeah cause buying a lot of alcohol and getting DUIs, getting your teammate killed, assaulting a police officer, and beating on woman more than once are basically the same thing.
Bent,
Thats exactly what I am saying! He is a good player, but he is definitely a product of the system. 1100 yards on 100 catches is not very impressive. Normally 100 receptions means closer to 1500 yards. Welker has those types of numbers every year but he catches like 80% of the passes instead of 60%.
So did you witness that Dylan or did you read that online from your favorite media outlet? They were out at the club together so I get it that he’s guilty by association, but think about it in another perspective. Your hanging at the club with your friend and he’s drunk and mouths off to some dude and then gets his ass beat. Is that your fault that he got his ass beat? I’m not saying this dude is perfect by any means, but I don’t think Rex will put up with his crap and I don’t really care about what players do on their off time as long as they perform well on the field. Everyone makes mistakes, especially dudes that get handed millions of dollars at such a young age…But most people grow up and I’d be happy to have him now after he got in trouble and is working on cleaning himself up. I take it you wouldn’t be happy if we got Plaxico either? I would be happy as anything if we picked him up as well, regardless of the club incident. People change, I know that from experience.
Corey,
There are such things as bad people in this world, right? It is possible that he is what he seems to be, no? What is he doing to rectify his mistakes and change? Are you gettting that info from the media?
Corey,
I would take Plaxico and I do believe in second chances. However, I don’t believe that players should get 50 chances. Marshall has been given plenty of opportunities imo.
And I don’t really get your club reference, but Marshall was the one being shot at, and I have a hard time believing it was for no reason.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/02/27/brandon-marshalls-testimony-leaves-no-doubt-he-was-the-real-target/
While Tanny has been known to pull off huge deals, I don’t want to seem him gamble by getting rid of a key part of the team in exchange for a guy who constantly is getting in trouble.
I will say this though, I’m sure Kellen Clemens is somewhere in that trade package.
edwards for marshall in a heart beat…i dont care for marshall’s past crimes…forgive and forget…
I WANT A SB…
and if it means getting marshall im all for it…besides if scumbagssss like pac man jones and stallworth the drunk driving murderer can have chances to change there venue and have second or even 3rd chances… then i believe MARSHALL does 2…with all the thoughts going through my head right now let me just say these are my thoughts for now…
WTF…Marshall, LT, letting Jones go…I always hate this time of year and it seems with each passing year it gets worse. I am not interested in rooting for a white and green jersey. I want to cheer for the guys in those jerseys, but this revolving door is getting old. Bringing in a few key players at the right time is one thing, letting go of core Jets players during the prime of their career (ie: if they let go off Harris/ Cotchery) is another. If we play KC I am already rooting for TJ to run all over us. They send Cotchery and Harris I may have to buy a Bronco’s jersey……go jets =-0
We havn’t even gave Braylon a full year who knows what could happen next year after gaining chemistry between Sanchez. For all we know Marshall might not be able to come in the first year and be the major play maker and with no chemistry Sanchez. I will take my chances with Edwards and draft a WR, Dez’s stock is dropping I would rather have him than Marshall but it’s not a major need. I would really like to have Marty Gilyard possibly in the third or Shipley.
I’m just glad I’m not Tanny. The dew falls on his head. Let’s see what he has up his gifted sleeve.
Rather have Marshall, than LT. He is one of the top five wrs in the league despite his baggage. Cotchery would be a tough pill to swallow, but I would try to give Braylon instead.
This guy makes Plax look like Ghandi. He is a talent, but I would not invest one dime in him because of his off the field issues. Regardless of how good he is I cannot root for him and want him far away from my team.
Cotchery = catches the tough balls over the middle and makes excellent sideline catches
We don’t need Marshall. A quick and/or speedy slot guy is all we need in the passing department. We’re a run-first team and we already have 2 solid WRs, not to mention an emerging TE in Keller. With Tomlinson/Leon, you also have options coming out of the backfield.
Marshall isn’t even the first Bronco I’d want. I’d take Dumervil and Bailey (could you imagine?) over him.
By all means, go get Marshall if the price is reasonable, but please, PLEASE do not overpay the bastard.
i tihnk we need to get nadamukun suh…trade for the top 3 pick like we did to get sanchez.. [forget] drafting many players and use our picks to draft one beast son of a gun like nadamakong SUH DA BIGGEST BEAST IN THE EAST
I find it funny that so many people are against trading for a top 5 wide receiver.
Who do you guys think is the worst of the two, Odell Thurman or Brandon Marshall?……..Did Thurman’s career even start at all ?
Although we may not want Marshall, you have to appreciate the due diligence of our FO on any way they can surround Sanchez with weapons. Not many other QB can say they have that luxury.
some of your responses are just retarded, someone actually wrote that brandon marshall and braylon edwards have the same potential!! Last time I looked Marshall caught more than 100 receptions in the last three years, with two different qb’s mind you and holds NFL records. When has Edwards done anything remotely close to this production? Edwards is a one hit wonder who had a good year when D. Anderson did his best K. Warner impression for one year and he actually CAUGHT the balls thrown at him. Lets not forget, Edwards lead the league in drops more than once… If I get to pick which reciever I can have between these two I’m picking Marshall every single time.
t $$ – please don’t make comments like that on this blog.
In any case, Braylon’s numbers in 2007 (1,239 yards, 16 TDs) stack up nicely against Marshall’s best seasons.
Marshall has been thrown to well over 300 times the last two years. Given the same opportunity, Edwards is capable of posting similar numbers. Maybe not quite as good, but certainly not enough of an upgrade to consider giving up core players, extra picks and millions of dollars for.
If the Jets truly are putting together a package for Marshall, I would be very excited. Just imagine surrounding our 23 year old QB with the best set of skill position players in the NFL, because thats what the Jets would have if they added Marshall. Currently we have Edwards on a 1 year try-out. If we pull off the trade for Marshall, we would have atleast 1 season of a very dynamic receiving core. At the end of the year, the Jets can choose to let Edwards walk and stick with Marshall (the better receiver). Or, if things really work out, we can re-sign both. Either way, I like the fact that the Jets Front Office is always trying to make this team better and especially trying to surround our young QB with great talent.
As far as the “package” the Jets are supposidly putting together for Marshall, I would assume it will consists of a player or two (maybe Bryan Thomas?) and a few draft picks.
Marshall is a GREAT player and a play maker. say what you will about the man but he does his job. He is not the reason Denver SUCKS. I want to see the JETS take the next step and PLAYMAKERS will get us there. I believe B Edwards had his share of OFF THE FIELD problems and actually has not had a good season since two years ago, drops passes but we know the potential is there. Marshall is in a higher level as player than BE. I believe T-REX will handle marshall.
Sorry, I disagree… MArshall would be a HUGE addition for us.. Sanchez would have had atleast 5 more TDs if Edwards could catch.. Cotchery hasnt made a big impact.. Jets got as far as they did because of their #1 defense and only 2nd to last (31st) in passing.. Now we all know Sanchez has the arm but the receivers just arent getting the job done.. Getting Marshall would bring 10 more Tds and atleast 100 yards a game to the Jets.. They have ignored this position in the draft (1st round) way too long and now they have to look in a trade for one. If Jets had a “TRUE” #1 go to guy, they would have have won that game against the Colts.. Jets NEEDS Marshall and would go BACK to the AFC game if he is aquired