Time to Pay the Pipers
The Jets have spent the last four years acquiring the level of talent that currently resides on the roster. While it’s a blessing to do so, the curse is that everyone eventually is going to want to get paid, and 2011 will be one of those years for the Jets. On ESPN New York, Cimini writes that contracts could be a big storyline for the Jets in the next year.
The organization needs to show a willingness to take care of its own. The Jets have done it in the past, giving rich extensions to players like Jerricho Cotchery and Kerry Rhodes(gone), but the latest perception is that they’d rather take on one-year, hired guns than develop and pay homegrown talent.
But here’s the catch: The uncertain labor landscape is making it hard for teams to give lucrative extensions. Mike Tannenbaum is one of the most aggressive, proactive general managers in the NFL, but he’s reluctant to shell out mega-contracts because the CBA rules could change and there’s a looming work stoppage in 2011. In a sense, he feels handcuffed.
The “30-percent rule” is causing the most angst. By rule, in this uncapped year, the base salaries in a re-negotiation are allowed to grow only 30% from one year to the next. Teams can get around that by doling out an enormous signing bonus, but they’re leery of paying big bucks in such an uncertain financial time.
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Consider: Mangold is entering the fifth year of a five-year contract, Harris the fourth year of a four-year deal, Ferguson the fifth year of a six-year contract (but 2011 is a “fake” year) and Revis … well, his contract is open to interpretation.
First on Revis, when news came out right around the end of the season that the team wanted to re-do his deal, it sounded fishy to me. Not only is Revis going to be paid $1 million this year, they have the right to contractually franchise him (at lesser than franchise CB prices) through 2012. Why would the team jump to renegotiate what’s turned into a pretty good deal for the Jets? Unless the Jets consider him such a talent that they basically are giving him a carte blanche … which I don’t see happening.
Beyond Revis, the Jets are going to be forced to make some tough decisions between now and next offseason, but most teams are trying to postpone contracts until they know what they are getting themselves into in 2011 from a CBA perspective..
62 Responses to Time to Pay the Pipers
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Marvel(I wanted TM) says:
Cimini is an idiot who knows nothing about football .. I really don’t like the guy .. He should work for TMZ because he’s good at making something out of nothing ..
Btw..AF was a steeler .. -
It’s a legitimate concern, but I’m sure management has a plan. Cromartie and Holmes are the two ‘hired guns’ he’s referring to, and given their history, I’d call this year more a trial than a mercenary contract. If they work out, we’ll sign them, possibly at Braylon’s expense so far as Santonio is concerned.
We’re not the Bills. Our people know what they are doing.
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Jeff says:
I believe Mangold will get a deal like Evans: 7yrs $50-60million. Which comes to around 7-8.5 a season. Sounds like alot, but Mangold is the best center in the NFL statiscally for like 3yrs now.
I remember when we gave Revis that contract which was like $36million. I remember pundits saying how we overpaid, and that we have messed up the way players are paid when drafted based on their slot. But looking back, that was one of the smartest moves ever!!
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ramble914 says:
I hate Rich Cimini! The guy always seems to have an agenda attached to his artciles.
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PA Matt says:
In case you didn’t hear, LT (not Tomlinson) has been charged with raping a 15 yr old girl at the Holiday Inn in Suffern NY
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“but the latest perception is that they’d rather take on one-year, hired guns than develop and pay homegrown talent”
How is this a true statement by Cimini? Where have the Jets thrown money at hired guns and ignored their homegrown talent? Just another dumb comment…… IMO
The Jets have done a great job of drafting the last 4 years. Now since they have hit on alot of them…… tough decsions are ahead.
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J Roc says:
In addition to the players mentioned, the FO will have to make decisions regarding Holmes/Edwards (may the best man win) and Cromartie. I just can’t see us not having Revis, Mangold, Harris or Brick for the long haul so I think they’ll get locked up,, hopefully sooner than later.
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JEFFDOLFINI says:
The funny thing is that we will be able to sign everyone that is up for a contract next season. We can afford all of these guys because we have cheap Guards, cheap defensive line, and cheap safeties………… Our management know exacty what they are doing.
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This is what Cimini should have wrote, “the Jets have done such a good job drafting the past four seasons, they’re in a position where they may not be able to lock-up all their home grown talent, many of which became All-Pro at their respective positions.”
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WW85 says:
What a tragedy about Laurence Taylor. I can only hope this isn’t true. I think he is the greatest defensive player of all time & maybe the greatest player of all time.
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Harlan Lachman says:
Kewpies to all the Cimini haters. Too bad he went from a NY rag to an otherwise credible source.
My understand was that if the Jets exert their option, they have the rights to Revis for another two years at $10 million each for a total of three more years. While that is a lot of change, averaged over three years it is chump change for the best CB in the league.
The reason to renegotiate now is to use the leverage of the low salary now to add a year or two. Revis might agree because he gets more cash this year (probably as a bonus, he could lock up the non guaranteed two years currently at the Jets option, for tha little less so that with bonus spread out there is no additional cap charge, and add a year or two. As Leon found out, sometimes there is risk of holding out for everything.
Most Jet fans would be willing to trade another $5-8 million of Woody’s money to lock up Revis for 4 or 5 years instead of 3.
Locking in $50 million is better than a team option for $21.
harlan
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AKA Jack says:
How are TJ (a Bear, Buc and Card before a Jet) and Faneca (a Steeler before a Jet) any more our own than any other free agent that filters through? In fact, how is getting rid of “hired guns” like TJ and Faneca and replacing them with guys we draft, Greene and Ducasse/Slauson, not talking care of our own?
I’m sure Tanny and the collected brain trust just sit around taking hits off a crack pipe picking players names out of a hat with no regard whatsoever to the salary cap or future payroll. I mean, that would assume they are actually focused on their jobs.
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Ben Nevis says:
It may be time to come up with a list of the worst pundits in football, guys who don’t understand the game, yes, but also guys who are high profile, get lots of attention, and have clout in the football world,despite the fact that they don’t understand the game:
__________________________________________THE WORST PUNDITS IN FOOTBALL
1. FRANCESA
2. FLORIO
3. PETER KING
4. CIMINI
5. CHRIS CARLIN
(Carlin doesn’t have any of the clout of the others on the list, but he’s just so friggin awful.)I’d put Bob Costas and Keith Olbermann on the list, but no one even thinks of them as pundits. They’re like the pretty girl reporters on the sidelines, only without the saving grace of being pretty girls.
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JetsFan65 says:
I hope you are right JEFFDOLFINI… What you are saying does make sense and maye tanny can convince players to make good but reasonable contracts for the sake of the team.
Would be awesome if we could some way resign both Edwards and Holmes but if not then Holmes should be the one we keep.
Not worried about Revis, Mangold, Harris, or Brick. Those are locks to get resigned.
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JesusRevis says:
I have been posting comments regarding this issue for the last year and a half, usually about once a week. Bent has told me several times that the Jets should be able to “re-sign everybody with money to spare”, but I just dont buy it. We have a bunch of players who are young, and considered elite for their respected position (Revis, Harris, Ferguson, Mangold), and they will all command huge contracts. Revis and Mangold will both become the highest paid players EVER at their position, Left Tackle’s always garner huge contracts and D’bricks will be no different, and based on the extension the 49ers gave Patrick Willis, you have to assume that David Harris is going to warrant a similar deal.
Rich Cimini put out an article on a subject i’ve been trying to address for over a year. Boy do I wish i was a writer.
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Revis for the next 3 years I believe is 2.5, then 5, then 15 in the final year, which is still pretty good. I don’t think we will touch Revis’s contract until two more years at least. That leave Ferguson getting 7/ year, Mangold about 7.5/ year, Harris 8/ year, Cro 6/ year, Braylon 7/ year. If anyone has to go in my mind it would be Holmes.
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Jesus—
Everyone and his mother has been talking about all of the big contract hits the team would be taking next year. It’s not news.
But Cimini puts a new spin on it: that the Jets would “rather take on one-year, hired guns than develop and pay homegrown talent.”
Which is just pure bs.
Also, Cimini points to Alan Faneca as a “productive” veteran, who “played like a Jet” last season (ie, played well, played his heart out).
I thought cutting Faneca was a little weird for one reason alone: we have to pay him $5.2 mil NOT to play for us this year. But AF did not play well last year at all. In fact, for most of the year, he was just awful. His pass protection was so bad, he almost got Sanchez killed.
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deevee says:
ugh cimini…
buggggaaaahhhhhhh (throwing up)
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MCD77 says:
What does Cimini mean when he said 2011 is a “fake” year for Ferguson?
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MEL31602 says:
Did anyone here Schotty on Mike and Mike this morning? Apparently the Jets had this thing today where the coaches go out and learn about other jobs and he watched Mike and Mike for the day. He joked about how Greeny is the Sanchez of the show but if Sanchez treated his o line the way Greeny treats Golic the team would be in trouble. They also asked him some football questions afterwards but nothing we haven’t heard before (rookies need to step up, etc.)
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Ben Nevis-
Why Carlin, you really think he’s awful?
I use to watch Loudmouth’s all the time when i actually had time and i think Carlin is pretty good. Very realistic and i respect his opinion as far as judging teams performances and predictions.
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He is saying fake year because of the probable lockout, i am assuming.
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JetsFan65—
Sorry, but last season Carlin was wrong about virtually everything I heard him say. He picked the Bengals over the Jets in the playoffs, for instance, after we had just beat them—and beat them decisively—in the final game of the season. He picked the Chargers as well. But it’s not just his picks, it’s the supposed logic he uses to arrive at his picks. It’s clear he hasn’t watched the games or the teams he’s talking about, or if he has, that he has no idea what he’s seeing when he watches a game.
Carlin, for the most part, is there to say outrageous things for the sake of getting an argument going. And what he says IS outrageous, but what he says is usuallys so ridiculous, it’s not worth arguing with him.
Carlin is much more suited to a show like “Beer Money.” First, on that show he has the answers to the questions in his hand, so he can’t really embarass himself. Second, he can poke some good-natured fun at the fans he quizzes. Third, there’s always some cute girl who co-hosts with him.
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brian311 says:
i dont think the patrick willis deal means much in the context of david harris. i love david harris but he is no patrick willis, and its not even close.
what it may do is put a little more pressure on tanny to get an extension done, but the CBA seems to mess with that. i expect tanny to do his thing and find a way to extend harris this year
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for the record, i cant stand carlin either. or adam schein. i think ray lucas is hilarious though. and i like brian custer. they really could make the jets post game a lot better if they replaced schein
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majasko says:
Ben Nevis,
I would add mike Lombardi of the NFL network to your list. Belichick kiss ass!
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Bent-
Where are you with your smart opinions to clarify what will realisticly happen with our players that we need to resign.
On another note, I think if Cro, Holmes, and Edwards all do good enough to deserve extensions that i wouldn’t be shocked if they resigned Holmes and Edwards since we have Kyle Wilson who might develope into a stud.
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brian311—
I agree: Schein is pretty bad (though Carlin is even worse), and Lucas is hilariuos, especially when paired with Buttle, who is also a lot of fun.
Would love to see Buttle & Lucas on the postgame. And keep Schein & Carlin on some show I don’t have to watch.
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will says:
Cimini does seem to have it ass backwards. The Jets have been very smart to acquire guys who are in contract years and who will be highly motivated to perform this season: Cromartie, Edwards, Holmes. At the same time the Jets have shed themselves of some bigger contracts: Jones, Faneca and Rhodes. So it seems the Jets have been savvy in dealing with the salary structure and will have plenty of powder with which to pay the young core. I guess the Jets will have to decide if they want to keep either/or Holmes/Edwards and Cromartie but certainly not at the expense of the three core guys: Mangold, Brick and Revis. I love Harris but don’t think he is at the level of the others. It might be that eventually the Jets view Holmes or Cromartie as better long term investments than Harris. One never knows.
Its exciting as a Jet fan to see the team have issues that are normally associated with the better franchises — too many good players.
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They mean fake year because he is due 12.5 in 2011 and he will never see that much so he need to be re-signed after this season. JetsFan65, Cro is more important than a reciever as long as he has a good season. Rex loves corners, he would resign Cro before he would resign both recievers.
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Ben Nevis,
Lol at the last paragraph.
About him not seeing the games, i believe he is a Jets season ticket holder. I don’t blame him for making those picks because i made those picks too. It was the safer bet at the time based on how the Jets year even though deep down inside i knew they could pull it off. Plus i don’t like jinxing the team. I rather pick them to lose so they can actually win lol. Call me weird.
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Ben Nevis –
I like your list but Cimini is worse than King, IMO. As others have noted Schein belongs on that list, personally I think he is worse than Carlin but they both suck so I see how you could hate Carlin more.
But…
You left off the Queen of terrible writers (Francesca being the KIng) –
Gary Myers!Have could you leave that ignoramus off the list?????
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neauone says:
What you have to balance into the topic is who will be with the Jets at season’s end. Bryan Thomas may be gone, Ferguson may be gone, Woody may be gone. Out of the 2 WR’s Edwards and Holmes only one will stick. Cromartie will have to have a pro bowl year and Kyle Wilson may be the heir apparent at CB especially if Donavan Warren turns out. Fanica, T.J. and L.W. are gone and for good reason. Fanica lost a step, T.J. was ok, but for the line he had in front of him did less than expected especially in light of the yards S.G. was getting with the same line. L.W. may not play for another year and has had to have a rod put into his leg. These were all decisions based on availability and productivity or lack thereof. The Jets have plenty of money to sign these . I mean how do all the other teams keep their best players? I think it is all a non issue.
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Browning's Nagle says:
@ Ben Nevis
I completly agree with your assessment of the pundits/ talking heads!
Francesa & Florio are the absolute WORST in the business! King and Cimini are not far behind.
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overhypedfans says:
I dont understand how all u ignorant Jets fans think u r a superbowl guarantee. Your simply not good enough. OK, your D is sensational, I’l give u that. But honestly, u think that “Sanchize”, lol, and Shonn Greene are going to lead u to the promised land?? Wake up, Jets fans, your team simply isnt good enough. Maybe next year.
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The NYC Parking Expert& Browning’s Nagle—
I didn’t mean the above list to be definitive, but a starting point that would generate futher additions. In other words, I’d like to see us as a group create a more complete list, and, yes, Gary Myers should be on it.
But as for who’s worse—King or Cimini—it’s close, but I think I’d have to give King the edge here. He’s just a little more predictably wrong and irrelevant than Cimini.
But, yes, Schein should also be added to the list.
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JetsFan65—
When you pick games, you don’t (I’m guessing) don’t get paid for doing so. Carlin does. Which means that Carlin has a particular responsibility to know what he’s talking about, in a way that other (ie, fans) don’t.
But if, as you say, Carlin actually watches the games, then he’s even worse than I thought.
But, yes, thank god for those cute girls (one after another) on Beer Money.
_______________________________________Browning’s Nagle—
Yes, I think we agree.
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Pete57 says:
overhyped, who is saying the Jets are definitely going to be in the SB? On the other hand, wouldn’t you agree that we Jet fans have good reason to be optimistic? You said yourseld the defense is sensational. By the way, who is your team, and what is your prediction for them?
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The NYC Parking Expert, majasko, JetsFan65 & Browning’s Nagle—
Here’s an Updated List, to reflect the additions made by NYC PE & majasko.
I don’t have NFL Network, majasko, so I’ll have to take your word on Mike Lombardi.
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THE
W O R S T
P U N D I T S
IN
F O O T B A L L
___________1. FRANCESA
2. FLORIO
3. PETER KING
4. CIMINI
5. GARY MYERS
6. CHRIS CARLIN
7. ADAM SCHEIN
___________________HONORABLE MENTION:
BOB COSTAS
KEITH OLBERNMANN
(These two aren’t really taken seriously as pundits. They’re like the pretty girl reporters on the sidelines, only without the saving grace of being pretty girls.)
_______________________________________If you have another pundit you think deserves to be on the List, please add a comment below.
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green dream says:
Harris is a issue because can we afford to pay both our inside linebackers 8MM/ yr. Dansby and ryans form houston got around 6-8MM. I don’t think we can do it for both SCOTT and HARRIS. Plus PACE is earning his 6MM as well. BT is gone after this year so that frees up 4mm but idunno. Brick is a top 10 LT he stays and will get around 10MM/yr, Mangold best in the league at C has to command at least 8MM/yr. That means woody gets cut next year he’s making about 5MM/yr. Vlad or Rookie RT takes his place.
As for REVIS, this is the year that his performance shortens his contract. So as of next year the JETS must buy back years 5 and 6 but at 10MM/ yr. That’s still a discount for the best CB in the league. Nnamdi is getting16MM/yr. So if the jets do anything with revis it will be to reward him and extend the contract in a cap friendly way but allow him to get prob 12mm.
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miketaliaferro says:
I just commented on this exact topic and the Cimini article on an earlier post today.
I’ll just re-cap here:
IMHO, Tanny has the capabilities to weather all these pending mega-deals coming for the next two classes of Tanny’s Quality Over Quantity players finishing up their rook deals, all hitting Star status at once and looking at sparkling paydays. We’ll probably do better with re-upping this slew of talent at one time than just about any other team would. I feel Tanny is that good at that part of the job.That said, I cannot begin to imagine the hit Tanny has taken in that locker room. These elite classes of young studs have watched their friends, colleagues, leaders and mentors get crapped on as they were shoved out the door. As football decisions go, a sound argument can be made for each and every one of these moves since the Pete Kendall era. But the way they were treated has had to resonate throughout that room. Each and every player in there now has to know that this is how THEY will be (or most likely will be) treated when their time is up.
Will Mangold forever be leery of his cell phone ringing during the calamari on a Friday night?
They’ve all been shown that THIS is how the Jets work what we ALL agree is the ugly business side of football. Not a man in there can feel that the organization (including Rex now, which is a shame…) has their back.
So, my question to Tanny is: Why DO this? Why put locker room “Bulletin Board” stuff out there? Why provoke your players to dig in and fight for every inch? Why make your job harder? Each and every one of those former players could have been shed with pride and dignity intact. That would have been a much cleaner message to send to your locker room — that we honor your time as a Jet, no matter what we decide along the way. Why make these young guys prepared to scrap for every dollar they get from the Jets — because players they respected had to…and still got crapped on.
Why take their focus off of “playing like a Jet”? Star players looking over their shoulders at the FO sure doesn’t help smooth out Rex’s job any.
I only assume that agents, team-wide, are now being directed to draw up proposals that basically would be Tanny-proof, which of course, makes the negotiations get off to a difficult start.
But would YOU do any differently? I wouldn’t.
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Bent says: I’m actually working on some calculations to lay out semi-accurately what they can do.
Of course, the cap is a moving feast so pretty impossible to project accurately, but I’ll see what I can come up with.
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On the other side, which reporters/ pundits do you like?
Brandon Tierney gets my vote
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Pete57—
Sorry, but not crazy about Brandon Tierney.
I think Cris Collinsworth is terrific. Also like Tom Jackson, Steve Young, Mark Schlereth, Jon Gruden, and Tedy Bruschi (a former Pat who was objective enough to pick the Jets against the Bengals & Chargers in the playoffs last year).
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BubbyBrister/shovelpass says:
I agree with most of your list, Ben, but I’d swap out Steve young for ‘Jaws’…I know Jaws is a little pollyanna at times (see Kellen Clemens draft review) but I like how he disects the passsing game.
Truth be told, though they were a little campy, I miss those Edge NFL Matchups with Suzy, Jaws, and Merrill…
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SackDance99 says:
mike t,
What are your thoughts on the fact that many quality players, like Sharper, Asomugha, Adalious Thomas, etc. have all expressed enthusiasm about becoming a Jet? I think what you don’t consider is the fact that the grass isn’t always greener. The Steelers have shown, time and again, a willingness to allow their top UFAs to test the market. Sometimes, like letting Joey Porter go, it didn’t hurt the team. But, failing to keep Faneca along with some ill-timed injuries have decimated their OL.
Look at the Giants and Osi? He’s dying to leave the Giants, but is left there stewing…he’s like their Pete Kendall because he will have to be let go, but Pierre-Paul likely won’t be. Look at the Dolphins, who allowed the heart and soul of their defense for a decade–Zach Thomas and Jason Taylor–walk away. How about the Jags who broke up the best DT tandem in the NFL by allowing Stroud to go and then cutting John Henderson. How about the Broncos who traded Cutler and Marshall, two of the most talented young offensive skill position players in the NFL?
I think that the type of hard decisions that are made by all NFL front offices don’t engender the animosity that you posit. The NFL is a business and the players know this very well and to believe that the Jets are better or worse in this regard just isn’t backed up by any facts.
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*Pierre-Paul likely won’t be ready to replace Osi.
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BubbyBrister/shovelpass—
“I know Jaws is a little pollyanna at times. . .”
Yeah, sometimes Jaws just seems to go off into outerspace. But I do enjoy watching him. Also enjoy Suzy & Merrill.
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iJets says:
I am not concerned about the Cimini post. He’s doing his job by stirring the pot and getting reaction. Tanny is a cap genius. Once a new NFL deal is set, I am confident Tanny will be ahead of the curve and will contractually keep the players most important to the Jets and their success in house.
The Tanny player releases made in the past years have made sense. I think the Kendall situation was a learning experience and a basis for the Faneca/TJ/Rhodes releases.
I like the philosophy the the FO is taking, though unpopular to players’ pockets. Let’s remember, there are still NFL players out there that WANT to be here. The organization is doing something right… FINALLY.
Total non-issue like the recent iPod-Gate
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The stories came out so early about extending Revis and Mangold that I think there was some merit to the Jets doing it in order to use the uncapped year. When the NFL clarified the 30% rule I think it set alot of teams scrambling. At the very least I know agents expected to get some big extensions this year and they may have floated those stories before the rules became clear.
While I think Cimini’s article is designed to stir up trouble I think he has a point. The Jets have broken the bank for players outside the organization and, other than Rhodes, spent little on home talent. This is something that at least two unnamed Jets (likely Moore and Baker) complained about in the past, but Id imagine will be something others talk about especially late in the year if the Jets low ball Mangold and turn down Cotchs request for a raise.
As for Revis his buyback in 2011 is 5 million dollars. 2012 is based on playtime and pro bowls. If he nabs 4 pro bowls (He has two already and barring injury should get the 4) its a 15 million buyback. My guess is the Jets do not consider extending him until after the 2011 season.
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hank/naples says:
Guys!!!
Before all you worshipers start demanding that the Vatican canonize Tannenbaum into GM Sainthood, just remember that this will be his holyness SECOND trip arround the MEGA Contract$ and we still have NOT even won our division yet!!!!
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NYJ2010 says:
Under the current salary cap rules, shouldn’t only Mangold be a free agent after this year, as Harris will have only 4 years of service, thereby making him a restricted free agent?
If this is case, it makes everything much easier- secure Mangold, give 1st and 3rd tender to Harris if extension cant be reached and then work on Cro, Holmes and/ or Brayon and Brick this offseaso and focus on Harris and Revis the year after- it seems we really can keep all these guys long term!
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Bent says:
Not exactly. The current rules were just transitional rules for if there was an uncapped year. The new CBA will likely go back to the old rules. If there is no CBA, then we have a lockout and player movement will not be possible.
It’s possible they could continue playing under a temporary agreement, which could mean the transitional rules continue to apply, but I don’t expect it.
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hank-
Tanny’s job has always been to get the players the coaching staff wants. Anyone who has any understanding of his role with the Jets knows that he has never been a talent evaluator but rather a cap and salary maven. The coaching staff’s job is to take that talent and win.
Eric Mangini took the talent he wanted and produced a 23 – 25 record in NY (not to mention a 5 -11 record in Cleveland). Ryan took the same talent and a rookie QB and was 30 minutes from the Super Bowl in his rookie season.
Before you start talking about not winning the division take a good hard look at the coach you think walks on water and is a bad start in 2010 from being out of the HCing business.
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dakar says:
Ben Nevis,
you forgot pete the prick presco…i really cant stand this guy…him cimini and king all seem to have it out for the jets…never ever say anything good without saying a whole bunch of bad…they just hate the jets and even more the fans…and the feeling is mutual…just my thoughts…
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Tos9987 says:
They better not let revis ride out his contract that guy deseves to be payed . As for the others they should get the money too .
I can see revis not get the extention till next year though that would be ok
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AKA Jack:
What you are saying is exactly true. The question is: Why then is Tannenbaum given credit for all the draft picks since ’06 and why was Feely given his walking papers when in fact Rex wanted to keep him?
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dakar—
I don’t know Pete Prisco’s work, so I’ll have to take your word for it.
Here’s the Updated List, which reflects your contribution:
__________________________________________THE
W O R S T
P U N D I T S
IN
F O O T B A L L
___________1. FRANCESA
2. FLORIO
3. PETER KING
4. CIMINI
5. GARY MYERS
6. CHRIS CARLIN
7. ADAM SCHEIN
8. PETE PRISCO
___________________HONORABLE MENTION:
__BOB COSTAS
KEITH OLBERNMANN
(These two aren’t really taken seriously as pundits. They’re like the pretty girl reporters on the sidelines, only without the saving grace of being pretty girls.)
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jp losman says:
ben – can you add a 9th person to your list?
9. HANK/NAPLES
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hank-
Who is giving Tanny all the credit for the draft choices since ’06? Not me.
Were Revis, Mangold or Brick tought picks? No. They were top choices on everyones boards. Tanny may get some deserved credit for making the trades to get Mangold and Revis but I don’t know anyone who thinks they were his picks. They were the picks of the coaches and the scouts.
Tanny has done a very good job of managing the cap and building the roster that the coaches wanted and being creative in getting the talent that they wanted through trades. Yes, Rex wanted to keep Feely. I did too. But at the right price, a price that made sense when balanced against the needs of the roster as a whole. Feely chose not to accept the money that was available for his slot and frankly his worth to this team. That’s always going to happen when players want to play for that last contract instead of taking a home team discount. It even happens with the God like Pats. This isn’t MLB and the Jets aren’t the Yankees.
The Jets have one of the most talented rosters in the NFL and that’s not my opinion that’s a universally accepted position throughout the NFL. Tanny deserves a lot of credit for structuring the contracts of top flight talent that made it possible.
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Sack,
As per the other players, Tanny has always been willing to spend when gaining vets from elsewhere. He’s always been willing to do what it takes. Especially since it’s pretty clear that Sharper, et al. would be getting no more than one contract from the Jets.
Again, it’s not about the hard choices that have to be made on an on-going basis. that’s just pro football. Then, when you do decide, it’s key to treat your players with the respect they deserve.
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ron2473000 says:
I really have to agree with everyone about Cimini’s report I honestly believe this guy has an agenda everytime he writes a column at first I was okay he is being a reporter but he sees both sides of the story but now I think he becoming a total douche so I still read when I find things interesting otherwise I would rather read the Janet chick’s column.
Anyhow back to the story at hand honestly I don’t know if guys check out the Jets Salary Cap website but you can pick up some interesting things on the site as far as money wise when it comes to our Jet players and if anyone hasn’t noticed there is a number on there if you add all the cash saved by our roster moves this year it shows we have basically saved our selves a shade over 29 million for the 2010 cap and the 2011 will be significantly be lowered meaning we will be way under the cap next year and we havent added what the rookie salary cap addition plus what will be added towards the cap and I could be wrong but last year’s number was about 127 mil (like I said Bent or Weeks can check to see if I’m wrong here) and I wouldn’t doubt it will be about 130 mil when the CBA is resigned (hopefully anyway)
So if you take that number of 29 mil and we have to resign 3 of our guys ( I didn’t include Brick because his money is accounted for through 2011 so I don’t see his contract being a concern until then) so if you do just simple arithmetic that average is 9.5 per person so tell me who out of those three guys wouldn’t take 9.5 mil per year…….plus if we resign Cromartie or we take either Holmes or Edwards we have the extra couple mil to cover those guys because we will have negotiating power because those guys have something to prove. Our hard decisions will be who to keep out of those three not our home grown talent.
In the end when you look at the numbers we can resign our home grown talent and still make out like bandits so everyone criticizes the FO for making all these moves when we should be congratulating them for having the foresight to make those hard decisions so we can keep our core talent around for many years to come. Here is my official thank you to the FO…………THANKS NYJ FO FOR DOING A GREAT JOB AND HAVING THE FORESIGHT AND BALLS TO SEE THE BIGGER PICTURE.
If ya read the beginning of the article, Cimini’s incoherent.
He implies that releasing TJ & AF, will have an impact on the players up for contract, in that management doesn’t take care of their own… only free agents. Duh??