Link: Dolphins Writer Takes Shot at Rex
A day after absolutely ripping apart the Jets, Miami Herald columnist Armando Salguero is back at it again, this time poking fun at Rex Ryan’s weight issues.
Really professional Armando…
There’s a saying in golf. “It doesnt matter how you get there, all that matters is the score on the card.” Does it really matter how Rex lost the weight? In the end, all that matters is that he’s healthy and ready to lead this team to the Super Bowl.
704 Responses to Link: Dolphins Writer Takes Shot at Rex
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CWPOST1993 says:
Fidel would had his head …. Better be thankful you live in America. LOL
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neauone says:
Who cares what he writes, he’s trying to reassure his fan base that they are the better team. What do you expect players from other teams to say, YEAH, THEY ARE GOING TO WHOP US?
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Bent says: Like Bill Parcells used to say “you are what the scales say you are”. Well, sort of.
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Andrew Weiss says:
Every newspaper seems to have its Gary Myers and Mike Francesa. The Miami Herald’s version is Armando Salguero.
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JetObsessed28 says:
wow.. that’s a bit “2nd grade” Armando….
Armando Salguero is to writing as Armando Benitez is to saving games.
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jetsfan0906 says:
i love how jason ferguson says the dolphins are the best team in the east cuz why wouldnt he believe in his own team? but isnt this article about the jets believing in their team?
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and braylon had 3 tds in the 3 meetings, however sean smith(who?) got the better of him…..good stuff
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*2 meetings
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southpaw says:
hahaha…the dolphins are so weak..how about we talk about FOOTBALL and not coaches wieght loss…uuugh i HATE THE F’N FINS MAN
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Ed L says:
I can’t wait for the season….
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James says:
Talk about being professional.
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david harris says:
neither can i Ed L… neither can i.
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rusty sanchez says:
someone should put a lap band around this guys throat
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jay says:
I just e mailed that dope…his e mail is on that blog page, everyone should barrage him let him know he is a bozo
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Jets fan in Miami says:
Dear Armando,
You are a biased d bag. Its because of your jet hating that i refuse to read the herald. This year we will sweep the fins and you will be deported back to whatever hispanic country you came from.
You blow ,
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Green Lantern says:
I Hate The Phins More Than The Pats….I Hate Pats Fans but The Phins Players, Coaches, Fans and Writers Get On My Last Nerve.
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Eric in StL says:
not to be too high on the bandwagon, but i don’t see much of a way this team implodes this year. consider that rex took a mediocre defense and turned them into the #1 D statistically in ONE YEAR. that’s insane, i understand the D came up short in a few key spots, but they were on the field a lot with the O and were inexperienced in the system. Now- remove lito sheppard and kerry rhodes to add cromartie, pool, jenkins, jason taylor, gholston as a DE (i know delusional, but apparently he’s having a bunch of sacks in camp) and an extra year of experience playing with each other in what i imagine is a very difficult defense to figure out i would not be all that surprised if the jets have a D that’s up there with the all time greats. as for the offense- the jets sacrificed a little of the grind it out for a lot more passing. if Sanchez plays like he did in the playoffs- which i’m sure the coaches are getting him to do as he became more reined in toward the end of the season, this is easily a 13 win team. salguero is a fool, the dolphins are worse at just about every position- QB and RBs are the only place where it is a wash. their big free agent pick up for the D wouldn’t start on the Jets D. that statement truly says it all.
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Shane L. says:
The Dolphins have officially re-claimed their spot on my most hated list. I love how every Miami news article has something to do with the Jets. I hope their players are this concerned with us, cuz if they are they won’t even remember how to put on their jock straps come sundays.
They keep ragging on the Jets for talking, yet I haven’t heard any Jet talk about Miami this offseason except when Revis acknowledged them getting Marshall. On the other hand I haven’t heard any Miami reporter, player, or fan, open their mouth this offseason without taking a shot at the Jets.
@Jetfan0906
I’m glad I wasn’t the only one that picked up on that comment. WTF is that guy talking about? “I def won those matchups” Really? Exactly which times did you win said battles? When Braylon caught 2 TDs on you after only being with the team for 3.5 days? lol Get a life.
God I hate those guys. I hope we seriously beat them 49-3 on national tv week 3.
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As someone who has also gotten the same lap band procedure as Rex Ryan, let me say this:
This piece of (poop) columnist can go (play with) himself.
There is NOTHING easy about weight loss–especially when it involves realizing that A) you NEED to do something about this and B) that you’ve failed doing it on your own.
I don’t mean to offend anyone by relating it to this, but it’s a lesser version of an alcoholic realizing he needs help. I struggled with my weight for twenty years (and Rex, I’m sure, for longer than that) before coming to the conclusion that my own vices were going to kill me unless I did something about it. I’m sure Rex felt the same way.
It’s not easy having a lap band. I hope this scumbag chokes on the big, fat, juicy, double bacon cheeseburger that Rex and I would love to have.
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Steve says:
OMG, I’m so glad I don’t live in S. Florida anymore. The only thing the Herald and the Sentinal are good for is wrapping your fish. Between the heat, hurricanes, no jobs and now oil. It’s nice to be back home.
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JohnR says:
I love these Dolphin fans who think they’re team has accomplished anything in the last 25 years since being waxed by the 49ers. The Jets are the Lombardi Packers compared to them. I tell every Dolphin fan that I sleep better at night knowing that Dan Marino never won a Super Bowl. This year begins another run of beating them 18 out of 22 times.
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Maybe this guy should be more concerned with the Dolphins league leading 4 offseason arrests than another teams coach’s weight loss plan.
I admit some of the hype talk Bart and company do is over the top but if it works for them its good. Myself I would rather come in under the radar,but obviously that will not happen this year anyway with last years success. So go ahead and have fun with it.
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greg sec130 says:
Armando Salguero is 20 lbs overweight and he is making fun of someone who lost weight?
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Jetfan in Miami aka adornoj1 says:
What did i tell you guys?!?!?! this is what i live with daily!!! lol. He is a joke though..not many people take him seriously
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Jimmy V says:
Okay, let me shed a liitle light on the Jets vs Fins rivelry~ I’ grew up in Miami as a Jets fan! The only timeframe in history that the Dolphins were considered the better of the two teams was as soon as Marino came into the mix. Marino & O’Brien used to go back and forth. Defense what defense _ if I remember correctly the scores were always 45-43 etc. I remember when marino faked a spike (Great Play) although I also remember Testeverde bringing the Jets back 35-3 at half only to win 38-35! Now for present time ~ Jets have a far suppior team. The Dolphins have to rebuild. Please remember > The enemy is the Patriots !!!!
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Angel Navedo says:
This is the exact reason I don’t understand Salguero. He relentlessly blurs that line between fan and journalist, and I don’t get it. Maybe it’s because I’m still in green and in j-school, but it just seems off.
I don’t know if he’s trying to make a name for himself by going at the human quote machine, or what. But it’s pretty lame.
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Brendan says:
Thank you, Armando. If this incredibly focused, scary and physical Jets team needed any more reason to rip the Phins’ soul right out of their collective chest (doubtful) then they just found it. I cannot wait for the first Jets/Phins game because our boys are going to be coming out to handle business and thump these posers as a gift to their coach. This is gonna be epic….
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BigKatt says:
Did anybody look at the column, and some of the dolphin fans comments? Wow.
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yes Big Katt, i fight the good fight on those threads often!!
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hahaha i just read the article he wrote from a few days ago, and its just amazing the kind of spin these people put down here. Brendan you are so right, when we rip the soul out of this organization’s chest… we shall collectively utter this phrase:
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hanknaples says:
Mike Davie:
Didn’t rex bring this on himself by unfairly “challenging” his player to a weight loss race? I mean, it’s the equivalent to challenging your friends to out jump you while your are on a trampoline.
On a side note, the video of rex next to Vlad in camp looked like it was not lap band surgery Rex got, but instead it looked like a he got a full piece orchestra placed in there !!
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sexy rexy says:
DOLPHINS BLOW!! Everything about that team is corny.
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harryW says:
Armando Who????
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Zach says:
Jets fans are so F’n irrational! the point he was trying to make is that sparano, unlike rex, didnt take any shortcuts
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LipsInToronto says:
Agree with Armando or not, as least he leaves the outrageous and bashing comments from jets fans on his blog. He hardly censors any of the unfriendly banter…
It seems any pro Dolphins post is being deleted from here..
Ironic, really – using a lap band equivalent, you delete any argument you can’t beat!
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miafan says:
last year counts for squat!! unless you are a saints fan you were not good enough! End of discusssion! Well maybe the colts can say something since they won the conference, but not much. Everybody else can take what they did and some change, it will buy a paper!
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And ya, it was a slight cheap shot at Rex – but Rex takes every one he can at the phins, with a smile.. so he is ok playing that game.. but the bigger topic is that Sporano is training twice daily and in the best shape he has been in for 12 yrs.
While I wish Rex good luck with his weight loss and hope his overall health improves because of it… saying the ends justify the means is just wrong.
On a steady diet of cocaine, am sure he would lose weight too… how about bolemia or anorexia.. while not illegal or as dangerous as the methods I mentioned, lap band is not the recommended or preferred way to lose weight.. so kudos to Coach S for doing it right.
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The whole problem is he is right . The Jets go sign everyone who is over 30 with a good past and now over the hill . Miami is building young talent if you compare rosters honestly better talent.
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bleedTeal&Orange says:
this rivalry is going to continue to b hated for years to come , as a fan of the game i can see how both sides value their own teams. whether jets fans appreciate armando’s column or not it is still his opinion. bottom line of this is two styles of weight loss. blood sweat and tears (sparano) vs a quickie shortcut surgery (ryan). a surgery is not the same as actually putting in the work to do so!
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Bent says:
Dolphins fans – It is not “any pro-Dolphins” post that is being deleted from here, but we will remove any posts which break the site rules, which include no name calling, curse words, comments designed solely to bash Jets players or fans or this website, trolling or off-topic posts.
If you can comply with these rules, then you are welcome to post here, but if you are unable to do so posts will go via moderation and may not be published.
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Jimbo says:
Who even cares about miami. The patriots are the only real threat to us winning the AFC east. Dolphins are a non-factor.
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Josh says:
Bent, if those are the rules than 3/4 of the Jets fans posts should be deleted. Talk about a double standard
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Bent says:
Where Jets fans posts break the rules, they are deleted. The ones that remain didn’t break the rules.
Obviously, we have to treat posts from opposing teams’ fans differently, but if you are willing to abide by the rules, then this shouldn’t cause a problem.
If someone is just here to troll or to bash the Jets on a Jets website then we won’t allow that, because it will just descend into a flamewar.
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305 Jets Fan says:
Looks like Salguero has gotten wind of this post and is encouraging his followers to come here and defend him. I say we keep hassling him on his blog and email until he shuts up about the Jets.
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Jets666 says:
As a 23 year old Jet fan i think most people in my age bracket would say that the PATS have been the team we hate MOST…prob based upon the fact that they have kicked our ass for 99% of the time we have been die hard JET fans….THINGS HAVE CHANGED….
PHINS HAVE BEAT US 3 IN A ROW AND THEIR FANS NEED TO BE SHUT THE HELL UP.
I AM GOING TO MIAMI FOR TH GAME THIS YEAR…LETS SEE HOW MANY JETS FANS WE CAN GET THERE THIS YEAR
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Did I miss something?
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Bent says:
Please don’t troll his site.
If you do, be respectful and keep it clean (which is actually what he asked Miami fans to do if they come here).
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FinsFan says:
You can delete my comment, but you can’t delete our three victories in a row over you, or the fact that yeremiah bell knocked your beloved QB into another division, he was so damn scared.
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War Machine says:
Its like why are worried about the Pacers (Miami) when we have to beat the Bulls (Pats)
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Canadian Dolfan says:
Rules. Darn it!
Well, all I can say I I’m glad to be a Miami fan and proud of the teams growth.
I realize Jet fans like their team as well, but seriously??? You base all your hopes on Rex and Sanchez? Seriously?
Let’s be real here.
Miami has a great young team with a couple of wiley vets and serious superstars.
Miami swept the Jets last year and beat them at home to win the division the year before…. What’s the controvery?
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At the end of every game, the only thing that matters is the score, but while Miami swept the Jets, we didn’t exactly dominate them. They were very hard fought games that Miami could have easily lost. So while I appreciate the 3 game streak, and I doubt Miami gets swept by the Jets this year… I also doubt Miami will so easily extend the streak to 5 games..
if any fan knows anything – is that divisional games are hardly ever predictable.
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michael says:
Guys, If phins fans feel the need to assert their superiority over their jets by supporting their coach’s method of weight loss rather than Ryan’s, then who the heck really cares. Congratulations.
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Being that both the Patriots and Dolphins have been division champs in the past 2 yrs, and the Jets havent smelled a division title since 2002 AND have they been smoked by Miami in the past 3 games, that’s a rather bold statement there about the Dolphins being a nonfactor, chief.
Nevertheless good luck with that elusive 5th division title which the Dolphins attained in the 70s,
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iJets says:
Please keep running the wildcat this year… Would love to see the Jets skin/shut it down the kitty.
Then what?
Boldin??? Come get some..
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David says:
Most overrated team heading into the season. Can’t wait for the Chargers-like flop. Take your new stadium with you. And don’t visit when it’s cold either, we’re good.
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FinzOrDie says:
Whats wrong with speaking the truth? Ok Rex Ryan didn’t get surgery he lost weight through hard work and exercise (LIE). Tony Sparano is the one who got surgery (LIE).
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Kevin Martin says:
It’s difficult to defend the notion that Miami is so terrible and is a “non-factor” for the division title. Everyone knows the Jets made it to the AFC Championship game but many forget that the Colts came away victorious. The Colts still currently play in the AFC in the NFL. New England went 4-2 in the division and won it. Miami went 4-2 as well. The Jets went 2-4 in the division and 0-2 against Miami. To discount New England or Miami is complete folly and displays a severe case of myopia. You can guarantee that Coach Ryan and the rest of the New York Jets are not taking the same view as many of their fans are.
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Le' Sean Roberts says:
I only have respect for football players out of Florida, no matter what level. I just don’t recognize the social environment in Florida., especially media guys like this chocha hija or choca………catch my drift.
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David says:
How about them PHINS!!! The bottom line between both teams is that we have not been good enough to win the Super Bowl. Whether it is coaches, QBs, etc We are still behind and wishing for the best. Both teams improved in the off season, and I look forward to the games. Sports writers-who really cares, and what do they really know. As a Dolphin fan, I love the games between the JETS-always good games. I could not care less about making the playoffs-I want a Superbowl, and I like the way Parcells is making our team younger, and we will be better in the long run. Good Luck to you guys, except when you play the Phins!!!
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amused says:
Nothing new here… just another Dolphin outworking a Jet. Tony Sparano decided to take it upon himself to change his lifestyle and health before it was too late. Rex Ryan, however, decided he couldn’t put in the work because he’s too busy mapping out his parade float route and running his mouth to the media.
I agree with you jet fans, as I also can’t wait for the season…
Why? Because last I checked, thats when you mark W’s & L’s – not the offseason. Once The ‘Fins decide to beat teams outside their division, its a wrap.
2009 Division Records: Fins 4-2, Pats 4-2, Bills 2-4, Jets 2-4
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dolfaaan says:
Guuys do you still have the broom from last year you know when you swet us??? OH NO….wait… WE SWEPT YOU thanks guys keep at it and if you are gonna come up with the “we made the playoffs b.s” you only made the playoffs because two teams played their 3rd stringers against you…. and yes we have a better team, henne is a much better qb than sanchez, our o line is better or lb’s are better our coach is better aand we are just cooler than you guys, live with it!
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uh ohh this sounds like Blog war!! lol So why dont you tell us Mr. B how the Dolphins are the better team??
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NYJMitch says:
Miami’s two wins last year could have gone either way and the second game was historically ridiculous. Miami was held to their fourth lowest yardage in franchise history, and least in a win. Please don’t come here and tell me that you dominated a game where you won by the skin of your teeth courtesy of two returns and a fumble recovery.
On concerning other attacks I have seen, the Jets only “old” players they signed will be situational. I think Santonio Holmes wouldn’t classify as old.
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Zartan says:
Zach,
You need to get a grip. He didn’t have to say anything but he did. He’s talking about our coach, were from New York/New Jersey , and you mess with one , you mess with thw WHOLE family.
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AV says:
If Ted Ginn Jr. can single handily beat you guys….
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P.a yuengsnwings says:
Ok,that out of the way,the jets on paper look good.But the injury bug hits all.
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Black Bart says:
Unfortunately for NY Jets fans and the team, they will not win the Superbowl this year and will fail to make the playoffs. They are not the best team, the best- coached team or the team with the best players, in fact. And the Jets definitely had subtraction by addition with their RB situation this off-season (why would Coach Rex Ryan get rid of the RB’s in the #1 rushing attack?): this is just one of the many, many indications that the Jets are actually being mis-managed. Bringing in high-priced free agents has been done again, and again, and again. That alone will not create a winning team. Hard work and commitment and real evaluation and action are the ingredients to build a winner. That is why the Jets have not seen Superbowl turf since 1968. And that, my friends, is a long 40 years….
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FinsfaninPA,
I know you want attention, and im gonna give it to you.
Dophins are a respected phoe but the games that you won last season, was luck in both. The way you guys won games was a gimmick, and i would be ashamed of my team for winning the way they did. A win is a win but not really.
The Phins are much improved and do have a chance to beat us, note chance but we are a far superior team.
Will we win the Super Bowl? maybe not but i like our chances better than yours and any other team in the league.
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The lack of discipline by “Coach” Ryan to even go on a diet is the reason why this team will not achieve greatness.
Try not to cry in your beer this season….
The Miami Dolphins work-ethic and coaching philosophy and determination = another sweep of the NY Jets.
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Mike says:
I’m a Dolphin fan, but don’t really think most Dolphin fans know what’s up, but Jet’s fans are straight up delusional! Both teams are good and have made huge upgrades this offseason, so it’s impossible to say whose gonna be better yet. Yes, B Edwards get get the best of Sean Smith last year, I have know idea why the opposite was written. Henne has also looked like the a better QB with a lot less to work with. There is a reason that Jet’s fans are viewed as the the least knowledgeable and most obnoxious in football…… because the are!
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Ixxy13 says:
LOL @ Zartan. You say our wins were luck and you would be ashamed to win like that. Are you ashamed you won your last two games of the season when the opponents were sitting their starters? Thats the only way and reason you guys barely squeeked into the playoffs. Practice what you preech.
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this is pretty hilarious. on my blog i just wrote about how ridiculous it is that the fins cant stop yapping. click my name if you want to read it.
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Dean Barbella says:
Hey Armando,
If only you were a better writer, you could write for a newsworthy team and not have to make your own story, eh?
Good luck writing for Miami Fish Wrap. Their scoreboard is burried in the obituaries. Try transferring to the gossip column… it’s what you do best, Gurl!!!
Dean
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Oh snap!
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Ranger Rob says:
Wow. Did a bunch of fins fan show up here to brag about their coach losing weight? Pretty pitIful thing to be proud of if you ask me.
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What many people dont get is the over the hill guys we brought in arent going to be center pieces of our team, they are gonna do what they do best. for example, LT on 3rd down and passing downs..Jason taylor to see 30 plays a game where he just goes and gets the qb. wait thats two guys. who are these other supposed over the hill pickups?
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Dave says:
I’m sorry you guys seem to forget who swept who last year. You guys did could in the playoffs I’ll give you that but you shouldn’t have even been there if it wasn’t for Indy taken the second half off in week 16 against you.
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madbacker12 says:
one question i have for dolphins fans is what team did you beat beside us and the patriots that was actually good?
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Come on Dolfans, whos rushing the QB this year for you??? Randy Starks? I Think John Starks would be better suited for that! Its a pity Brandon Marshall can’t play some Defense for you this year too, Crowder could use the help :X
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hilarious! the trolls actually followed me to my blog and tried to comment there. trollzapping the comments section is pretty fun. well, at least it’s easier for me because i don’t get too many comments. :P
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Brian McMullin says:
It is so comical to read all the comments about how terrible the Dolphins are. I do admit that I am a Dolphins Fan but if a team beat the Dolphins twice last year, like the Pats have done numerous times I think I would keep my mouth shout until my team beat that other team at least once!
But you guys don’t seem to have that level of intelligence. I guess we could blame it on the school system up there. That makes the most sense because these immature thoughts permeate through all the jets blogs and this isn’t the only year…..it’s every year.
I read things like….. “…as long as Sanchez plays like he did last year we will easily win 13 games.” Is that a joke? Do you not see how an outsider who doesn’t have a pair of “Our team is great” glasses on would be scratching his head after watching the next Joe Montana, I mean Sanchez scrambling for his life last postseason looking like a child playing a mans game.
Or how about another brilliant comment “…..the only place Miami is even as talented is the RB everywhere else we are way better.” Well, every ESPN anylest and NFL network anylest (although not politically correct) rated Chad Henne superior to Sanchez. You may note know this but Henne has a better record then Sanchez and did not start last year as the starter so he came in after four games. Also, he never looked like a kid who was lost like your boy did most of last year.
You guys probably think your receivers are better also, well maybe you should look up Miamis top 4 receivers and see how they rank league wide I am sure it will shock you guys that only one of your receivers is in the same conversation.
You think Edwards 3 TD’s were special, you lost the games.
Your Defense is #1 – well take solace in that now because for all the points you Hot QB and Pro Bowl Receivers poped on Miami – Chad Henne, Brian Heartline and Crieg Carmilleo tattooed even more points on that #1 Defense last year!
Read that again and let that sink in…… Miami didn’t have Brandon Marshall then and still smacked that #1 Defense in the mouth and did whatever they wanted, what makes you think they won’t be able to this year?
Sounds kind of ignorant to suggest that they can’t doesn’t it?
So how are the Jets going to beat the Dolphins? Oh ya Jason Taylor is going to beat them for you!
Miami knows JT better then any other team, they let him go to NY for a reason. Now, I love JT and he will retire as a Dolphin the same as Zack but Miami knows that JT is not getting by Jake Long…..Maybe two years ago, not now said to say.
So what is your plan New York?
Rex will figure it out you say?
Well, he hasn’t figured it out the last three times he has played the Dolphins and until he does you can keep your comments about how much better the Jets are then the Dolphins to yourselves.
But I’m sure you won’t!
I too can’t wait for the season
Seriously though – Have fun guys
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chad henne only looks better than sanchez because he had a year in his system longer. when sanchez was coming out you heard all the scouts raving about him but when henne came out of the draft know one really didn’t know who he was.
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Len says:
Both coaches were/are overweight. Strong mind – strong body. One is taking the road that will make a difference long term. One is going for the quick fix. Sounds like their football philosophies too.
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since chad henne has been in the league he has has the same amount of tochdown passes as sanchez the only, thing that chad henne has ove sanchez is less interceptions.
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TOON2388 says:
more proof that these hacks are not REPORTERS. Does Miami have a such an inferioritu complex that their press has to try and take cheap shots @ the JETS and their fair weather fans have to come on this site? I would rather go to Havana, oops I mean Miami, then go on Dullfan blog
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Mr. McMullin, Rex Ryan only played the Dolphins twice last year… where is this phantom 3rd game coming from??? I understand why you guys are here..The only thing you guys can say about last year is that you beat us twice. Which is big in a rivalry I guess, so you’ll count that as your own personal Superbowl and be content. Our QB doesnt need a gimmick offense to hide behind. QB rating of 93 with 60% completion rating 4 TD’s and 2 INT’s… not bad for a boy playing a mans game dont you think Brian??
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Felix says:
Seriously, how can you get mad at someone stating the facts? Sparano lost weight through diet and exercise, Ryan lost weight via surgery. Its the same approach the Jets are using to build a team….taking the fast easy way adding older high profile guys while the Dolphins are building a solid foundation that should thrive for years to come. This will always be the best rivalry in football, and there will always be some ugly exchanges between fans. That being said, I know for a fact that Miami fans are classier than the Jets’. As for the other stuff, it will be decided on the field.
GO FINS!
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This is the same franchise that coined the term “FAIL, FORWARD, FAST”!!! lol get out of here, after getting shelled by Baltimore in the first round, i kept hearing about a deep playoff run the following year. Yeah that never happened
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lol Fins Fan, where is Ted Gin Jr now?
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FItz says:
Hey Dolphin fans,
Who has beaten who more times cumulatively in recent years? If you try to say, well that’s in the past, so is last year, and you can make all the excuses you want as to why we were in the AFC conference championship, but we did win 2 playoff games on the road to get there numnutz. Let’s see who beats who this year. I hope we destroy you. And your stupid Salguero has to bring personal weight issues into his column, because he doesn’t have enough credibility to write something that is relevant to the game of football. What a freakin loser. I can honestly say I hate the Dolphins and their fans as much as the Pats. -
I heard the Dolphins received a Box that Rocks from Taco Bell in exchange for Ginn
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Give me a break says:
Some of the comments from this blog seem to be quite racist saying, Armando should be deported, wow that is deep and explains why we always had more fights when the Bills and the Jets came to play at our statium. The sad thing is the people like that don’t know their own history. I am assuming you guys with these racist comments are not native Americans. Hard to believe that even though the north won the civil war that doesn’t make this country any less racist or ignorant.
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Finsfan says:
adornoj1 aka JetFan in Miami…. you ar right, you dont need a gimmick… oh wait… but you did. Actually the Jets pulled more crap out of the bag in 2 losing situations with the phins playing more wildcat style option plays than our team did. Not to mention 2 fake punts… I mean who was the real gimmick.
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Zartan, I find it funny that you said we won with “Gimmicks” and you would be ashamed of your team winning like that. How ashamed are you about the fact that not one, but TWO teams laid down to let Your team into the playoffs. Still ASHAMED?
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so if you see that they both have thrown the same amount of td passes, why are you guys talking so much.
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My how short term these Phin fans’ memories are. How many games did the Phins lose to the Jets before then? Calm down. Holmes, Edwards, Cromartie, Pool are over-the-hill 30+ year olds? You guys will do whatever you can to talk yourselves into this team of yours. What will happen when Henne can’t get B-Marsh the ball because he’s lost on Revis Island? And without Jet-Killer Ginn, what else do you have?
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Phinfaninbeantown says:
“Both coaches were/are overweight. Strong mind – strong body. One is taking the road that will make a difference long term. One is going for the quick fix. Sounds like their football philosophies too.”
:)
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Give Me a Break,
Give Me a Break lol
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If you cant stop 2 fake punts, that says something, ratio of fake punts to ratio of Wildcat used??????
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Jetsfan310(Andrew) says:
Hey Dolphins fans you barely won both games last year. Even though you won those two games we still finished 2 games better than you guys. Then we went on the road and won 2 playoff games. Does your team suck so bad that you guys have to come on to our blog to brag about your coach losing weight. Well i guess you might as well take that small victory because thats the only one your getting against the Jets year.
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Just worry about Pat Whites brain activity Phans
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FinsfaninPA says:
Jetsfan310,
first off you got lucky in the playoffs, every squirrel finds a nut at somepoint, in the jets case 2… the dolphins won those games didnt they? i think a win is a win and that means they were 0-2 vs us last year, o yea, and that was hennes first game and they STILL beat them.. My hate for bills fans is strong but i think the jets fans are even worse now, I know the fins will beat up of the jets this year becuase ur QB(name isnt worth mentioning) blows and ur whole season rides on his back, bet u havent thought bout that yet have u? U probably have the hope of going to the superbowl but lets face it the bills, lyons, rams, browns have the same chance on the jets.. your coach is a loud mouth just like all you fans.. Revis island is going to be blown away by B-Marshall, you heard it right here, bess, carmillo and hartline will do the same, running game doesnt need to be brought up because we all know its awesome… On a bright note i will wish you horrible fans some luck this year against the fins, you do have a good team BUT will your QB step up?? remains to be seen -
NamVetJet says:
Damn 102 posts for a Phin writer—WTF.
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Brendan,
how many games did we lose to the Jets???
Ok lets start back all the way to the begining since you wanna keep going back season after season. Who owns the all time record against the other? -
Bent says:
Currently, the Jets hold the advantage in the all-time series with a record of 46-40-1
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FinsfaninPA,
First off after what I saw from Sanchez in the playoffs I think he will do his job very well, much better than your sucky QB(name isn’t worth mentioning). We had the # 1 defense last year and that was without Jenkins plus we added Cromartie, Taylor, Pool, and Kyle Wilson. So lets see here we have the better coach better defense better offense better special teams so I guess that means the Jets are better. Remember this site when the Jets destroy the Dolphins this year.J-E-T-S JETS JETS JETS
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Thank you Bent for proving the fact that Dolphins fans dont know what their talking about.
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Haha Finsfan, do a google search next time. Jets, I believe won something like 8 in a row before the recent success for the Phins. So the Jets beat two division winners, on the road, and they’re fluky wins? The Jets demolished the Bengals and Chargers, and if not for injuries they had a great shot of beating the Colts. I love this new confidence Phin fans have. That’s great, but maybe it would be better if your team didn’t choke away a playoff spot to us.
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RyanM says:
finsfaninpa, so a win is a win but u still say we got lucky in the playoffs? makes alot of sense, u guys got lucky with beating us, obviously we were and still are the better team, and it has nothing to do with luck
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dflo007 says:
WOW….. You Jets fans are talking about gimmicks….. Doesn’t Brad Smith run the JET version of the “wildcat”??? ……….something to think about…..Yes, you have a great Defense, YES, Sanchez has the tools to be good, and YES, Rex can coach……. But please realize that you don’t build NFL teams by signing ageing vets and sitiuational players. It’s built through the draft and young talent… Both teams will have sucess this year and the rivilary will be at it’s best this year…As a lifeime Dolphins fan,,,,,Phins fans chill out….. JETS fans chill out…. and let’s settle this on the field……And get off the Miami Herald and Sun Sentinel writers….. You really don’t want to compare our writers with yours………..Oh yeah…… WE ALL HATE THE CHEATING PATS!!!!….. the division will be won by either the dolphins or the Jets, Pats are old and past there prime….so both fans DEAL WITH IT!!! LET’S GO PHINS!!!
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JetsFan310,
Sanchez(cant belive i said his name) is horrible, his playoff run was a fluke just like your team, Yes u had a great offseason picking up players, I love jason taylor but if parcells didnt want him back then something must have been up.. Hes getting up there in age and theres no way hes getting by Long (remember that statement). Henne does have stuff to prove but hes better than sanchez, he had a whole year to sit and watch then got thrown in 4th game of the season and did better than most would have thought WITHOUT a #1 wideout… now that B-Marshall is there he will do just fine.. pretty sure they fins have the same problems the jets have, our players are eqaul to most of urs they jsut arent well known YET… this will be a breakout year for them u just wait and see… Dont u worry ill rememeber this site and be back to hear ur apology when the fins whoop ass this year.. BTW ur agrument wasnt very good, all you said was ur defense was great.. remember u need offense to win the game and it wont come out of the ***** QB you have.. Calling it now.. Sanchez will be hurt this year.. knees arent doing to well -
i had a nice arguement back to all you fans but they wouldnt let me post it and im not typing it again.. ill remember this site.. get ur apology ready Jetsfan310 ill be back in a few months..
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BTW all those teams didnt show up when the jets played them in the playoffs.. im glad you al have high hopes for ur team, the jets and fins are pretty equal teams (think bout it) u have alot well known players but the fins have young guys that will break out this year… on a sincere note good luck in ur season, i hope you do well but just a lil worse than the fins hahah
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RayRay says:
Division Titles::::
Miami 13. Jets 3.Playoff app.:::::
Miami::::23
Jets::::13AFC Championships:::::
MIAMI :::: 5
Jets:::::: 0. (NFL merger in 1970)
if you need it, then Jets 1. (before NFL)That’s all that need to be said.
Who’s the better team???
Historically, the Miami Dolphins are the most winningest team in the history of the NFL!!!!!!! (actually tied with Pitt.)
The Jets ranked around 24-25 out of 32!!!
So, the loser who’s looking at the history of both franchises,
CHECK THESE STATS OUT!!!!!!!
and these stats don’t lie like jetfans!!!!
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Bent says:
FinsFaninPA – Your comment was blocked automatically by our spam filter because you swore. I edited your post and added it to the site, but please try to adhere to site rules if you want to post here.
Note: Gloating is against site rules too.
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FinsfaninPA,
Actually Sanchez is ahead of schedule get your facts straight. Also like I said we have a better QB better O-Line Better receivers and your one strength (running game) we have three solid backs there too. -
LT solid i dont think so… hes getting old, he will be a beast down in the red zone tho.. you do have good recievers but u have to remember B-Edwards drops ALOT of passes, Holmes is a drug addict… Cotchery will do fine tho… Who led ur team last year in rushing? hes gone now.. U forgot to mention our passing game, that will be fullstrong this year
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check the stats btw and see who had more passing yards last year.. Sanchez or Henne, remind u that henne didnt play the first 3 games
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“holmes is a drug addict”
lmao, is this for real. guy like to burn one down every now and then. at least he didn’t GET HIS TEAMMATE KILLED like marshall did…
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that is low right there hahahah
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Pdubbs says:
That’s a good idea….. a Miami reporter insults the moral leader of a team that hates you…..
Miami is so stupid, even the reporters.
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Im apparently a little late to this party, but fins fans really need to calm it down a bit with the revelry, congrats you swept the jets when they were in a 1-6 growing slump. the reason jets fans are confident (and rightfully so) is how they played down the stretch- you know the fins could have won their games to end the season and they got smacked around. what happened in early to mid-season is far less telling. fact of the matter is the Jets were one half away from a super bowl and lost because the best QB in football had a lights out second half and the Jets had one too many injuries. so if you want to rest on beating the Jets twice during a stretch in which they lost a bunch of atrocious games, be my guest phins fans. the bills beat the jets in that stretch too and i don’t see any bills fans on here thumping their chests. now looking objectively at each team’s talent:
Offense
QBs- Wash: Sanchez vs. Henne is a wash until further notice
OLine- Jets: especially after removing the weakest link
TEs- Jets: Keller is the best TE on either roster
RBs- Dolphins: I actually think Greene is going to be better, but unproven
FBs- Dolphins: Polite is a beast
WRs- Jets in a walk and here is where Fins fans are most delusional: Holmes, Edwards, and Cotchery vs. Marshall, Bess, Hartline, and Camarillo. For Dolphins fans to claim that their group is superior is insane. Also you have one really good receiver- which is useless when playing the Jets. Marshall and Revis may as well purchase tickets and sit in the stands (and if any Dolphin fan talks about Ted Ginn beating Revis so why won’t Marshall- they’re two completely different receivers, the only chance you have to get off Revis Island is with track speed to get behind him. Marshall is a big physical possession type- that’s not going to be effective against Revis)Defense:
Secondary- Jets (could their be any bigger mismatch)- the Jets had the #1 passing D last year and they replaced the two weakest links and are returning their all pro NT
ILBs- Jets: Dansby wouldn’t even be a starter on the Jets and the Fins made him the highest paid LB in the NFL- really smart, let’s see what happens when he’s not playing in the NFC West.
OLBs- Wash: Don’t think either team has a huge advantage
DLine- Jets: enjoy being without your NT for half the season like the Jets had to beFans/Media: Jets in a walk because we have enough confidence in our team that we don’t need to talk about the Dolphins. Do we want to win? Of course. Are we upset about last year’s sweep? Undoubtedly. Do we need to talk about the Dolphins every chance we get like the Fins fans and writers do with the Jets? Uhmmmmmm, no. There’s a bad smell coming from south Florida and I think it’s fear.
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I seriously can’t deal with these people. I don’t go to PFT anymore specifically so I can avoid reading these mindless posts from miami fans doing nothing but bashing the Jets with nothing to back it up except their WE SWEPT YOU HAHAHAHA remark. It is hilarious that they think those 2 fluke wins are going to lead to 2 more this year.
Our D didn’t show up for the Monday night game, otherwise we win that one easily. The special teams couldn’t stop anything in the 2nd game, otherwise we win that one by 2 TDs.
Bent – I know it would give them more to yap about, but I vote for seriously just banning them all from our site. If they had brains and would have a sensible argument with us with real facts to support them, that’s one thing, but we’ve all seen that that is not the case and they’re just here to start with us.
If that’s a bad idea, maybe I’ll just go hit a pregnant chick. Oh no wait I don’t play for the Dolphins.
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Hey Dolphins Sweep Jets,
Try to beat the fins once a year huh? I guess you have a memory block from before last year. Let me remind you. We beat you clowns 17 out of 24 times since 1998. Just because you got lucky 3 times in a row doesn’t mean you can run your mouth now.
2 years ago we were eliminated before the final game and the Jets clearly didn’t care about that game, if anything I think most Jets players were happy they lost to get Chad into the playoffs after management let him go. As a fan I was glad that happened to keep the Pats out.
Monday night game – Congrats, our D took the night off and your wildcat worked like a charm.
2nd game – Get lost. Jets outgained you 350-110, your own players admitted they shoulda lost on the way off the field.
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Bent says:
Shane – That wouldn’t be my decision, but in the past we have always encouraged fans from all teams to be welcome (and we’ve had some good insight from many of those fans, as we have from some of the Dolphins fans that have chosen to post here).
If they continually break the rules, then they won’t be able to post here any more.
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congratulations miami on the sweep but did you guy make the playoffs ? oh alright then.
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juunit says:
And you all play right into his hands by showing just how upset he made you… WHO CARES what this guy thinks? He’s a COLUMNIST for Christ’s sake, you can’t be a writer for a newspaper and be any lower than that. Let the guy wallow in his own miserable existence… damn Floridiots.
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serious question. to dolphins fans really have this bad a selective memory? yes they swept the jets when the jets were in a bad stretch.
then, at the end of the season, the jets won 5 of their last 6 regular season games to clinch a playoff spot, eventually winning 7 of 8 overall falling 30 mins short of the super bowl.
the dolphins…. choked away the playoff spot the jets got with awful football down the stretch. i don’t understand how a team that choked away its spot can get on a team for taking said spot. it’s so hilarious.
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Dolphins Sweep Jets says:
how many people are left on either teams from when the Jets beat the Dolphins a bunch of times? like 3 guys between the 2 teams?
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NJDPelc says:
Today is a NY Jet’s legend birthday and this blog did nothing for him? A little dissapointing. Here’s a little video for him.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDg5vacKOs4
at about 1:40 to 1:55 I can see some Broadway Joe in Sanchez. haha.
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http://www.thejetsblog.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/revis_witness21.png
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fin13 says:
Jets fans grow up the comment was said, in jest.
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Give Leon The Damn Ball (new name pending) says:
WOW! lots of flipper fans in here!
i would just like to point out that mark sanchez as a rookie led the jets to more playoff wins than flipper had this past decade.
worry about your own team because your first 10 games are brutal. enjoy third place and watching the jets in the playoffs again.
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Finfan says:
why arent my comments being posted?
Because you are a troll.
Stop namecalling, posting under fake aliases and making comments designed to bash the Jets and their fans. That goes for everyone else too.
Thanks, TJB
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One thing the JETs fans forget. Our biggest pick up this year, was not a player, but Defensive Coord. Nolan. His experience will be the difference this year, and you can take that to the bank.
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g. JETson says:
Phins fans say the Colts and Bengals gave us two wins. I’ll give you Indy but the Bengals could have played us 10 times and not gotten a win. Here’s the funny part…we gave you a win! They thought Ginn was more of a bust than any of us thought about Ghost, so he runs for not 1 but 2 100+ yrd tds against a top 5 special teams unit in a game where there offense put up barely 100 yrds? That 7-9 should’ve been 6-10. But even more funny is that a 7-9 team thinks they are better than us.
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@fin13
I agree it’s silly to overreact about the weight loss remark. However most of the comments here aren’t really in response to that comment, it was just the straw that broke the camel’s back.
Since the season ended, miami fans and some players and apparently now writers have done nothing but yap about the Jets, their moves, their draft, their players, their coach, last season etc. Meanwhile, the Jets (who are ironically accused of being the talkers in every miami article) have made no ill comments about the fins this offseason. Revis talked about Marshall a little bit after the trade but nothing serious. Taylor said something comparing the 2 teams but you won’t find a real Jets fan that wants that guy on the team anyway so we refuse to be accountable for whatever garbage comes out of his face.
We have all heard just about enough out of your fan base for the rest of our lives. Week 3 can’t come soon enough.
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“Who beat the Jets TWICE last year!?!”
who made the playoffs?! what team choked away a playoff spot?! i’ll gladly get swept by flipper every year if it means making the afc championship game.
us jets fans are thinking about superbowl while flipper fans are thinking about sweeping us in a season they didnt even make the playoffs. that right there is very telling.
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Where is Ben Nevis at today? One big ass post and maybe these dullfans would shut up.
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This week, when it came down to it, the Jets defensive personnel knew that the Dolphins were going to dominate them with the run, and they couldn’t do anything about it. They got pushed around all night by the Dolphins and when the Dolphins needed a drive, they just went out a did it. Chad Henne, who was a high rated QB a few years ago when he came out in the draft, had a great game against the Jets and benefitted greatly from the running game that his team had, and the Jets were unable to stop.
The great thing about the Jets defense is that it is built to stop the pass, but that’s only relevant when teams have to … you know … pass. When the Jets removed Kenyon Coleman from the equation on Draft Day, they got worse against the run and maybe only now am I seeing the difference that his presence meant. It was something I was concerned about, and although the team can apply pressure and has stopped the run against some lower tier rushing teams, but when they face a team like the Dolphins, they got exposed.
From your own blog. Dolphins will win again.
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Tryptich says:
I wouldn’t say the Dolphins “choked” their spot away… Losing your starting tailback, nose tackle, Inside linebacker adding on top of earlier losses(starting quarterback, cornerback) with players who were missing games or nicked up at the time(all 3 interior line positions-which didn’t help the aging Ricky Williams hold up as the main guy to finish the season) do tend to impact a team beyond just the mental aspect required to “choke”.
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a guy who had 7 sacks last year is going to be a situational pass rusher on the team that had the best defense in the NFL. i dont get how any intelligent football fan can knock that move. does adding him some how make the jets defense worse?
i think we’ll be fine no matter what taylor does. if he can get 7 sacks on that god awful defense flipper had last year, then i think he can at least be productive for the jets.
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poor dolphins, they had some injuries, did they? we lost our playmaking RB and all-pro NT. injuries are not excuses. if you lose guys, you better have the guys to replace them. don’t make excuses, just get better depth next time.
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Yes well last year was the 2nd year of parcells in miami… nobody claimed the Dolphins had yet gotten the required depth to deal with mounting injuries.
and Ronnie Brown meant a lot more to the Dolphins then Thomas Jones meant to the Jets. Because of how well he runs the wildcat which died once he went down.
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Fobi says:
lol this is funny, you fins fans are funny…i can’t wait to revisit this post when the games are played.
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guys dont lets this dude get to you i saw one of his articles and he said the jets moving gholston down to DE is an act of “desperation to fill the RE spot left by douglas”
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Jets fans…a quick question to you all. Do you really feel confident that your team is better than last year. You lost 2 stud RBs, and a All-pro LG with tons of game experience. You gained a old RB, Our old Pass rusher, and a rookie OG, not even from a Division 1 program. Granted your CBs are better, but our interior offensive line is better this year, than last year. We are again going to run the ball, and how are you going to stop the run. When you put 8 guys in the box, then Henne will play action and throw it deep to Marshall. Get ready for it, and please no excuses this year.
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speaking of ronnie brown, how much can you expect out of a running back that is coming of his second season ending knee injury in 3 years?
flipper is loaded with question marks. sure, every team has question marks, the jets are no different, but i dont think ours are as abundant as flipper’s…will ronnie brown coming off injury be ronnie brown? can brandon marshall behave? will the young secondary grow up or get torched like they did in 2009? who is playing nose tackle (the most important position in a 3-4)? can henne get it done? how will the team adapt to learning a new defense? who is going to replace the 16 sacks that taylor and porter had?
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Wolf says:
This is out of control.
Keep it up Dolphin fans. Soon, you’ll have to change your name to the Miami Oilers.
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Ok, well first of all I’m a diehard MIAMI DOLPHIN fan from Miami. I never thought I’d be commenting on a JETS BLOG but here goes:
The biggest problem I have with Ryan is what the fans call his “swagger” but what the rest of the league refers as his MOUTH. He talks too much. That’s it.
The Jets have a 16-0 championship defense and a 4-12 disaster offense. Yes, the defense got better but I think the offense got worse! With a year of film to study, opposing defensive coaches will be giving Mark Sanchez fits this year. Hey, I think the same thing will happen to our guy Henne.
The NFL is built on research and tendencies. Sanchez is predictable in his way as Henne is predictable in his way. What CAN’T be predicted is how well a team will play and how healthy a team will be.
I don’t care how RYAN lost weight or how Sparano did it. Just glad they both got it done for their health’s sake. But as far as the classic Dolphins vs. Jets debate, I will say this.
If Mark Sanchez had to play the Dolphins 8 times in a season and not 2, do you REALLY see him winning more games than losing? That Jet defense is impressive, but the team will ALWAYS be vulnerable with Sanchez throwing the ball. He’s a mistake machine.
Our guy Henne isn’t Drew Brees yet but he’s steady and careful. He’s got Marshall now and I think, if KYLE ORTON can look like a Pro Bowler with Brandon Marshall running routes for him, imagine how good Henne is gonna look? Also, last year’s tape on Henne CAN’T show what the new look Dolphin’s offense will be with Marshall on board. It’ll all be fresh and new. Expect less wildcat and more Marshall Plan.
Can you really say the same for a Shonn Greene, Braylon (I never met a pass I couldn’t drop) Edwards and Ladanian (ready for retirement) Thomas? Where’s the offensive excitement going to come from? When has LT EVER lit up a Dolphin defense? (Ummm… Never.)
So I feel good about our chances to sweep the Jets again this year. Because your Defense is amazing and only more so with Jason Taylor whom you will see, is an absolute PLAYER. But as long as Sanchez is steering your ship, you’re gonna find rocks, man.
Ryan has no reason to talk, cry or anything else he does. Yet he does it because he’s a buffoon. He’s a good coach, but personally he’s a buffoon. There’s very little CLASSY about that guy. So when he gets beat, he usually gets beat UGLY. Look for that to be the case. Look for the Jets to finish the season looking for a veteran QB to bring in to give Sanchez some “competition” and look for Ryan to spend just as much time APOLOGIZING for inappropriate comments as he spends talking trash as if he ever played the game.
He’s a buffoon. But he’s a good defensive coach. However, he’s not exactly ready for prime time. He’s going to prove that next year with one stupid PR mistake after another. Because that’s what clowns do. They ASTOUND you with their stupidity. That’s all I have to say. GO PHINS!!! ;-)
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guys did anyone of you guys noticed that on jet related articles they had a story about a fighter jet killing 18 in pakistan *fail* also just throwing it out there who here hates bill maher non-sport related i just want to feel not alone on this on
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Anyways, outside of pointlessly arguing fins/jets… In terms of Dolphins writers… Armando is one of if not the worst, his cheap shots at Rex are nothing surprising, he cheap shots pretty much everything including the fins not giving him the media access he feels entitled to.
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Bent says:
David – I would say that the general consensus is that Jets fans expect their team to be more like the team that won 7 of 8 at the end of the year than the one which lost 6 of 7 earlier in the year.
They went on that streak without Leon and the losses of Jones and Faneca are not expected to hurt them as much as you might think, because they actually underperformed last year.
Of course, this means they’ll have to rely on some younger unproven guys, which introduces some uncertainty to the whole situation, but based on the way they closed out the season, I think Jets fans have as much reason to be optimistic as they have in recent memory.
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“Jets fans…a quick question to you all. Do you really feel confident that your team is better than last year. You lost 2 stud RBs, and a All-pro LG with tons of game experience. You gained a old RB, Our old Pass rusher, and a rookie OG, not even from a Division 1 program. Granted your CBs are better, but our interior offensive line is better this year, than last year. We are again going to run the ball, and how are you going to stop the run. When you put 8 guys in the box, then Henne will play action and throw it deep to Marshall. Get ready for it, and please no excuses this year.”
i’ll answer that…
1. jets made the afc championship game while leon washington was on IR. thomas jones lost his starting job in the PLAYOFFS to a ROOKIE
2. faneca stunk last year.
3. LT was brought in to BACK UP shonn greene
4. jason taylor is a situational pass rusher on the best defense in the NFL. how on earth that can be considered a detriment is beyond me.
5. joe flacco was a qb from a 1AA program and made the AFC title game as a rook. anyways, ducasse isnt definitely the starting guard. he has to beat out 2nd year player matt slauson.
6. stop the run? we were 8th in the NFL without this guy playing…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiJ9lYyj4uQ
7. brandon marshall? you realize we have revis, right?
yaaaaaaaaaaaawn
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Bent says:
WPF – I realize Rex is portrayed that way in the Miami media, but he really isn’t anything like you describe.
He’s an intelligent guy, fun loving and affable. He likes to make bold proclamations, but mostly is just having fun with the press.
If you get a chance to watch Hard Knocks this year, you’ll get an up close look at a totally different guy to the one you just described.
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juan tellado says:
I guess they don’t have anything to say bout the fins so got to talk bout my JETS
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no comments about the jets that are reality based or your comments will not be posted, DUH
No, actually comments will be posted unless you break site rules, which includes namecalling, trolling, coming here just to bash the team, this blog or Jets fans, personal attacks, posting under fake aliases etc…
Thanks,
TJB
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As far as the question about replacing Joey Porter and Jason Taylor, it seems daunting but when you look at a statistical break down of their plays last year….
Jason Taylor(828 snaps)- 7 sacks, 4 qb hits, 20 qb pressures
Joey Porter(755 snaps)- 9 Sacks, 5 qb hits, 11 qb pressures
Cameron Wake(167 snaps)- 5.5 sacks, 6 qb hits, 20 qb pressuresThe stats really speak for themselves in terms of their pass rush, Wake only had a fraction of the snaps and put up fairly comparable numbers… and everyone knows Porter and Taylor were never very good against the run or in coverage. The point being of all the Dolphins questions… replacing those “16 sacks” isn’t a major concern, most of Porter’s sacks were handed to him by somebody elses good play driving the player to him anyway. JT and Porter’s best football days are behind them. Anyone can see that…
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willy perez
the jets offense got worse this off season? really??? i dont expect you to know all that much about a team you dont like, but come on.
last year teams loaded the box with at least 8-9 players in every single game and yet the jets still led the league in rushing even with leon on IR and jones fading down the stretch. now we got santonio holmes to go along with cotch and braylon edwards (the guy who no one in your secondary could stop in either game). good luck stacking the box when those three are on the field at the same time. oh, and there is also dustin keller to worry about.
i agree that sanchez is a question mark. he singlehanded lost us a few games last year and the reason we didnt walk away with the division title, BUT he did a lot of growing up in the playoffs. did you even watch those games? well, he had a 90 rating, completed 60% of his passes, and threw 4 TDs (would have been 5 if not for a drop in the endzone). he did that in the playoffs. as a rookie. ON THE ROAD. the best part is that sanchez doesnt even have to be great this year. he just has to be game manager and not give games away.
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Well this thread has been a fun break in the doldrums of the off season.
These fins fans crack me up. They would switch rosters with us in a second if they could.
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geomanice says:
rex is a fat p.o.s. that cant control his emotions same as he cant control his weight! miami has been the better team forever and will always be! especially this year no gimme games for jets to get them in the playoffs. when stupid fat rex says were out of the playoffs this year it will b true and not that he has no smarts n doesnt kno the status of his own team!
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BigKatFan says:
Doesn’t matter. The stress from losing games and then being fired will cause Sparano to gain ALL that weight (and then some) right back.
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finfan23 says:
yea my post was deleted too. No breaking of the rules just the facts of the offseason. What is a blog without posts? It was on for a few minutes and then deleted. Not any truth being spoken on this blog i guess
You did break the rules. Making fat jokes about our coach constitutes coming here just to bash the Jets and therefore trolling.
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Switch roster with the Jets, no I don’t think so. We like our team. We are a lot younger than the JETs and are being built for the long haul, so no way would I switch rosters right now. Revis is a stud I will give you that, but I like our young CBs. I like Dansby & Crowder, but I would take the OLBs. We have no idea what they will do next year at all. I would take our DEs in a heart beat compared to yours. I think you will be surprise by our WRs next year, and Henne Vs. Sanchez, no debate I would take Henne and you will see why this year. Stronger arm by far. Our RBs, yes they are injury prone and getting old, hopefully, next year we will get some new blood in our Backfield. It was great debating with you guys, and I can not wait until the year starts. Good Luck.
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offtopic:
bent and bassett, kudos for moderating the comment section. my blog doesn’t often get trolls and stuff like that, but evidently a few of them followed me from this post over to my blog. no matter, i only had clean up 10-15 posts or so. you guys had your hands full i bet, and i appreciate it. thanks for making TJB the best damn football blog there is.
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Dolphins Own the Jests says:
I see where you don’t want this site “trolled” Have the jests fans been so nice to us??? I don’t think so. So, here we are… we are curious about all the greatness your trollers have told us and we want to hear why…so we are coming to visit!!!
I read through these remarks and not one of you has even touched upon the FACT that Miami has beaten your sorry team three times in a row. The first knocking you and Brett “The Savior or NY” Favre out of the playoff in 2008…IN YOUR OWN JOINT. And twice last year. The first time humiliating you and your …ehem…coach… on MNF. And then in your own shack (AGAIN) because you forgot that special teams is as much a part of the game as your ehem…vaunted defense…. You should have had a Garbage truck Beep Beep Beep Alarm going off as you backed into last years playoff picture after as mediocre a season as any of the rest of us. I hope all you “concrete jungle prisoners” sent Manning a nice card with a kiss saying “Thanks for the free ride”!!! on you way to getting owned in the AFC Champ game. Must suck to know very few teams make it back that far the next season? It would be fun to rant at you guys… but your so far removed from the truth you wouldn’t understand. Real quick like though. To the person who said they were glad they were out of S. Florida and back home. If we could only get about 2 million more just like you out of here we would have our beautiful Florida back to ourselves. We’re trying… one or two a day make um go away!!
We are so Gonna POUND YOU MOPES THIS YEAR… AFC CHAMP >>NOT!!!<<…LOOOOOSERRS…
I promise to be here regularly to keep you humble… I will also keep it clean which is far better then your fans have done on our sites now for months… you don't deserve better… but we are just better people down here. -
dolphin fan in nc says:
i don’t really think rex ryan is portrayed by the media in south florida as anything other than what he is. he is cocky, loud mouthed and arrogant. people who are long time dolphins fans aren’t really used to that kind of boorishness from their head coach. don shula had more professionalism and class than rex ryan ever will. i for one will not talk trash about the jets team because i suspect our rosters are much closely matched than fans of either team want to believe. however, i do believe that our roster has more players with significant upside than does the jets. that being said i don’t think the dolphins or the jets will go to the super bowl. no one gets crowned a champion yet-that’s why they play the games. just like last year the dolphins will give you one of the best games of the year. the first jets game last year was one of the best of the entire season. dolphins 10-6 jets 9-7 pats 8-8 bills 5-11
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Bent says:
David – Kudos for your honest and intelligent posts.
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One last comment, we are glad you traded Leon Washington, he was a killer against us, even though he was hurt last year, he was a stud for you guys, and I am glad we don’t have to face him anymore. Good night.
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Bent says:
DOTJ – We don’t encourage any of our readers to troll other Dolphins fans sites. You’re probably talking to a completely different group of fans. Still, we are here and happy to talk football, as long as posters abide by the rules.
Calling yourselves “better people”, calling Jets fans losers and the general tone of your post, mocking the Jets, is already pushing it too far, but I appreciate your desire to keep things clean, so if you want to talk football without trashing the Jets then go right ahead.
“I read through these remarks and not one of you has even touched upon the FACT that Miami has beaten your sorry team three times in a row.”
You didn’t read very closely because that’s been mentioned over and over again.
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Actually, one more comment on your coach. I love our coach, but your coach is so funny. I can’t hate the guy, because he makes me laugh so hard. I love his passion, and his directness of saying whatever is on his mind. I am glad both coaches have lost the weight however they did it, they did it and made up their mind to do it. That is always the first step. I do miss the the old games played at the Orange Bowl, those were the classics. Good Luck with the new stadium, and congrats on getting the Super Bowl. I bet it will be cold, but it rains down here, so be it.
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flipper is a lot younger than the jets, huh? virtually ALL of our key players are in their mid twenties.
sanchez is 23
greene is 24
cotch is 27
edwards is 27
santonio is 26
keller is 25
mangold is 25
dbrick is 26
david harris is 26
calvin pace is 29
revis is 24
cromartie is 26
leonhard is 27
bart scott is 29
i didnt check flipper’s roster and the ages of their key players. they may be younger for all i know, but they dont have nearly the young talent the jets do. it’s not even close.
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payaso del carajo says:
El hombre Rex es un sapo muy gordo y feo.
Translation: Rex is a good coach and smart
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Bent says:
Frank – if you really want to be able to post on this site, make an on-topic comment that doesn’t break any of the rules and it will get posted.
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lol, that ain’t exactly the espanol translation… what’s the word for jealousy in spanish, eh?
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tedforthejets says:
Why can’t we Jets fans at least be honest among ourselves. The Dolphins are building a team the right way, through the draft and by signing young, still emerging free agents. Our Jets, on the other, are taking a very different track. While our defense is solid, the O is going to be very suspect, nd certainly worse than last year. Sanchez is not what we hoped, not even close. We will need to start over at QB by next year, wait and see. Look for 7 – 9 this year, maybe only 6 – 10. Nothing would be better than to beat Miami this season, but I expect them to sweep us yet again. Their O-line is just that good, they will maul their way through the AFC East (if they remain healthy). Sorry, the truth sometimes just hurts. Thankfully, wishful homers forget fast, and there will be other, better times.
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Bent says:
Very funny, payaso…
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almost all of those players that you listed above have probably reached their potential with the exception of greene and sanchez. i just don’t see those players performing at a higher level in the future. granted that is a good list but i feel the dolphins have more players who are ready to take that next step. any football fan can tell that vontae davis and smith in the db have the potential to be stars. our young 3 wrs hartline, camarillo, and bess have only scratched the surface. jake long has way more potential at lt than ferguson. our de’s are young and promising. henne will emerge as a top nfl qb this year. we have not had a player of his caliber at the most important position since dan the man. our team really is primed to emerge as a powerhouse. who on the jets do you guys feel will make the jump for you this year? i look forward to our games this year as i feel that the jets are the main competition, not the pats. don’t look past us-we will be the stumbling block for the jets dreams of afc east championships.
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it’s sad, really. what i wrote about in a piece on my blog is that the dolphins fans have such a strange obsession with us. the dolphins have a very good young team, just as we do.
but another thing they have in common is their passion for talking about the jets. whatever.
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mexdolfan says:
Armando Salguero is right by calling things by name.
When a HC like Rex Ryan ask his players to be in shape, put effort on the gym while he uses surgery as solution to lose pounds, he’s being unfair and inconsistent, placing a double moral.
Unlike Ryan, Tony Sparano is taking no shortcuts and he included himself on the conditioning program of his team and he’s showing great results.
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Tom in Raleigh says:
I enjoy the “Dolphins own the Jets” smack. Simply not true. Who holds the edge in the lifetime series?
Jets/Dolphins hasn’t meant much in recent years. Mostly because the Dolphins have been really been relevant since Marino left.
Bottom line? You hate the Jets because more often than not, the Jets beat you.
I will give you three in a row…and take the AFC championship game.
When was the last time the Dolphins made it that far? 18 years Dolphins fans.
Enjoy the season also-ran.
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david says:
you were 9-7 last year and got gifts at the end of the season. The jets are a long way from good. man this season is going to be a crusher for jets fans
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david, are you insinuating that the jets were not a FINAL FOUR team last year? yes or no? we went into the playoffs and won two games on the road, fact or fiction.
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when was the last time you guys went to the super bowl? oh that’s right -over 40 years ago. no one cares about going to the afc title game. we have 5 afc championships and you know what they mean? nothing- no one cares about second place or the afc/nfc champ. only one team goes on the lombardi trophy and last time i checked the dolphins name was put on it way more recently than the jets. last year is meaningless. that’s why i don’t mention it in my posts. good luck with the fins this year. you will need it.
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Bent says:
Mex – Rex had reportedly been dieting for ages and will need to continue to do so to keep the weight off, he just happened to have the lapband surgery as well, which he needed to do for health reasons.
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okay, bent, here goes, the dolphins are better, period. History has shown us that miami is a better franchise, bottom line. I understand that jets fans have a step child mentality but its not our fault, its your fault for being a jets fan, don’t be mad at us.
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matt s says:
the jets are the most overrated team in the nfl…. the jets are going to finish in 3rd place in the division and not even make the playoffs…
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yes im saying you got thier buy luck the colts layed down and you got cincy twice at the end of The season in bad bad weather. it fell in place for you last year. THE JETS ARE NOT A TOP FOUR TEAM. not even close and if thats what you think this season in going to hurt
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Rich says:
I find it funny that some of you guys are making fun of Armando because he’s Hispanic when your quarterback is SANCHEZ!!!.
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Top Three Signs Your Team Sucks:
1) Your HOF Sack Leader Leaves For Division Rival
2) Your Beat Writer Talks Weight Loss
3) You Are Posting on Posting on The Jets Blog.com.
Even in the best of times, you wear aqua marine blue and your best player, Marino, looks like David hasselhoff.
http://ianundercover.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/david-hasselhoff.jpg
Sucks to be you, Flipper!
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A Brito says:
Hey losing AFC is really like 4th place. In the Olympics doesn’t warrant a medal.
First interview with Revis about Marshall going to Miami you could tell in his voice he was worried.
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we’re not making fun of armando because he’s hispanic. we’re making fun of his because as a sports writer he should be better than that. like i said. the jets are focused on the jets. why are the dolphins always talking about the jets? i honestly don’t know. you guys have a very, very good football team. the jets and fins are 2 of the best 4 or 5 AFC teams. so stop focusing on the jets and go worry about your own team.
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hey david hasselhoff lookes like dan marino
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Wow! I can’t believe that this is that big of a deal compared to past trash talk between these two organizations.
I am a Dolphins fan so I will undoubtedly get blasted for this. Please read my entire post before jumping to conclusions.
I think what Armando was implying was that as a professional football coach Rex Ryan is surrounded by world class athletes, world class training facilities, world class trainers and therapists, world class doctors, world class dietitians and nutritional experts and that his income pays well enough that he can afford to buy higher quality, healthy foods instead of his steady 6,000 calorie a day diet of “Rexican” fare. (Before blasting me look up stories about Rex’s liquid diet. He was consuming that many calories a day and he jokingly referred to Mexican food as “Rexican” cuisine.) It would have been easy for Rex to make minor life style changes and he could have easily melted off the pounds before needing to resort to the lapband procedure.
Seriously…I mean he couldn’t have hopped on a treadmill for fifteen minutes while watching game film? Rex couldn’t have trotted back and forth during practices? Rex couldn’t have had one of the team doctors come up with a diet plan consisting of healthy and delicious foods that he could eat? Seriously?????????
He also missed out on a super opportunity to cash in and be a spokesman for NutriSystem just like several other pro football personalities.
I am glad Rex decided to do something about his weight before dropping dead of a heart attack. But I think the point is that he could have made several minor changes years ago and avoided this completely.
Burning off pounds is not easy. I am glad Tony had the discipline and dedication to follow a diet and get some occasional exercise over the past few months.
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starz31 says:
I hope people read the original article. It was barely a professional article. It was all just two simple comments and exaggerating their significance. It was funny actually, how much of a lack of actual reporter there was.
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L7WIENIE says:
Bottom Line…the past is the past and the Phins fans on this site see beating the jets the past 3 games as their own mini superbowl…whats funny is that we prob beat you 10 out of the past 15 games before that…
as a young jet fan i passed on jets phins games because they were such a joke over the years…thank god the phines are more fun to watch but seriously…phinsfan is a straight up loser in the basement of his mothers house…age range 39…wears dolphins thong to bed
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comparison between the jets and dolphins over history. more super bowl appearances and victories-check dolphins. better win percentage in history-check dolphins. more pro bowlers-. check dolphins. head coach history-big check to dolphins. biggest star ever- marino vs joe namath. again check for the dolphins. what can the jets claim in their history that is better or even equal to what miami has done? absolutely nothing that’s what. let’s be realistic. anyone who is an nfl fan knows that the dolphins are a more storied team than the jets-period. i know you guys like your team but lets be real.
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Bent says:
Admittedly some people did make fun of his ethnicity earlier on, which is wrong, but it really was a minority. Any more will be deleted.
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Reprocity says:
How can I take any of these Dolphin fans seriously when their franchise is owned by Gloria Estafan!
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Eddy0007 says:
All I can say after checking the Jets site for the first time is that we all you Jets fans have coming over the our blogs during the football and trashing our blog with miami hated comments. If you can’t take our true comments and respectful comments then stay out blog.
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Does Gloria have them doing the Conga after practice?
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PaperChamps2010 says:
Congratulations on your Lombardi matching pen set!
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Just some facts:
a) As today the Henne-Sanchez series is 2-0.
b) Jets added more 30+ players this season than Dolphins so they invested just for this season.
c) As Bills seems to be rebuilding, this is a three horse ride on AFC East.
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reply to lil wienie yes i am 39. congratulations. no i don’t live in my mothers home- i have one of my own. and by the way i’ve never owned any dolphin thongs. sorry that you find rational fact based posts so offensive. i’m just not drinking the jets kool aid. good luck being a jets fan. my lifetime of dissapointment is eclipsed only by yours. lol
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Bent says:
The guys you have trolling your blogs are not the same guys that use this site. We don’t encourage anyone to do that.
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Armando sent us!
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Marshall Law on Revis Island? O? I don’t think you know what revis Island really is… Most of us Jet fans don’t even know what Revis Island is because we never get to see him on TV because NO BODY catches passes on him. Marshall avg less then 11 ypc! Our TE does better than that!
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Bent says:
May I also remind Jets fans not to respond to trolls and that we do not allow name calling or personal attacks.
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Thanks Brent. Just as their is some nuts on the Dolphins blogs, there are nuts on the Jets blog. Comes with the territory. Cant wait till the two times these teams meet in 2010 its always a great game to watch.
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… Don’t forget J-Low and her boy, Anthony joined the owners in the losers circle.
“Dolfans have become the Gigli (2003) of the NFL.”
- Roger Ebert and Mel Kiper Jr.
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This is ridiculous!!!!
My posts keep getting removed???
What about freedom of speech???
Something I fought for in 3 wars!!!!Please note that some posts are automatically sent to moderation so there will be a delay before they post. We cannot man the site 24 hours a day. Thanks, TJB
Ok, no name calling::;;;; just stats!!!!!
AFC EAST Championships:::::
Dolphins—-13
Jets———-2
(which the jets didn’t win the division from 1970-1998, 28years!!!)
AFC Championships (since 1970 merger)
Dolphins——5
Jets———–0Last Year!!!!
Dolphins—-2
Jets——-0OK!!!!!! no name calling, just stats
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Bent, Can we have a thread just for that?
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Gotta give to you guys, you are not like the wannabe Jet fans that troll our Dolphins sites.
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… Don’t forget J-Low!
“Essentially, Dophins are the Gigli (2003) of the NFL!”
- Roger Ebert & Mel Kiper Jr.
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To be honest with you jet fans I also think that Armando’s an idiot, as do most dolphin fans.
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Paper, WE LOVE FOOTBALL!!! I will go on any site football site to learn anything about any team. Any real football fan LOVES this site.
I have to ask these Dolphins fans something, I have hated some of the trades the jets have done in the past ie. Rob Moore. Did you guys hate the Wes Welker trade?
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to give him to the patriots was insane. that said he wasn’t going to resign with us at the tender he was offerred. so they had to trade him but we should never trade with the bills, jets, or pats. that is just common sense. a disguntled/former player is going to tell all that you don’t want told.it’s never worth what you get in return.
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Reprocity, absolutely! Now most our idiot fans want us to sign free safety OJ Atogwe. Just what we need, fork out another $35 million dollars for another damaged goods player. We just got rid of Smiley for pete’s sake.
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Why wasn’t he going to resign? I’ve never heard of a tendered player having much choice…?
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i think he was going to sit out. they didn’t really want to trade him.
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I would say Welker is one of the top 3 greatest “slot” WR of all time… Not straight up WR but if you look at what the typical “slot” is who better than Welker?
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The idiots we had at the time did not think Welker was worth paying more money. Then he goes to the Patriots and looks like a hof!
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Reprocity who are the imposter Jet fans that come to our sites and act like idiots? You guys act nothing like them.
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He wouldn’t sit out… Has anyone ever? With such a short lifespan NFL careers have who sits out? Well, I guess that could have been the case because they did trade him… I’m hoping the Holmes trade pays similar dividens…
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maybe largent or art monk or chris carter were better. but if so not by much. i like welker but i hope his knee takes all year to heal. in the game today i don’t really know of a better slot. (that is if he comes back all the way)
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Bent says:
Apologies to those fans that are seeing a delay in their comments being posted. Unfortunately a large number of offensive posts have had to be removed or blocked from this thread, which often has a knock-on effect of confusing our spam filter into thinking innocent posts are spam/inappropriate.
Once the trollish posts slows down, things should get back to normal.
We also apologize for any offensive posts which do appear on the site. Rest assured that they will eventually be removed.
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It’s about Focus… Why would anyone post flaming remarks on another teams website?
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Like I’ll get the Jets a win by trolling some one elses site? No disrespect but I don’t give a rats arse about your players… I just want Epic games and that’s where the Dolphins have my respect.
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Bent you dont have to worry about anymore trollish comments by me. You guys are actually pretty cool.
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I feel the exact same as you Reprocity.
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Actually losing Welker really hurt!!!
Good thing we found Davone Bess, who’s a Top 5 SLOT WR, just behind Welker. But yeh, it hurt for awhile.As for Jason Taylor. The Dolphins can never replace him!!!
As a player and as a leader.
Oh yeh and his 127.5 sacks!!!!!I don’t see why the Phins could have kept him around for his 1 or 2 more years left in him. It couldn’t have hurt.
Some of my PhinFans bash JT, but it’s not his fault for going to the Jets.
It’s out Front Office!!!! For not signing him for his final year or so.Oh yeh:
Go Phins!!!!Peace
and ps. I’m from NY, but lived in SoFlo for the last 30 years. Moved down south when I was young. So I got to deal with my 2 brothers, one a jet fan and the other a giant fan.
It’s all in good fun.But historically the Dolphins are the better team. One of the most winningist teams in NFL history. The Dolphins actually have 100 more season wins then the Jets since the NFL merger in 1970!!!!!
And this years team is way better then the Jets!!!
And last years also, obviously cause we beat you both times!!!The Dolphins are the better team and has ALWAYS been the better team!!!
JETS FANS:::: JUST ACCEPT IT!!!!!!
Peace Out…
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Bent says:
Thanks, Paperchamps.
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Here’s the AFC East for any true football fan. We hate bellicheck because he’s a cheater, Rex; like him or hate him is just Rex, Parcells makes any team respectable, and we all feel sorry for the bills!
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Actually Armando did send us here with his last blog, even posting the website. I thought that I was getting revenge for the trolls who post on our site. But instead found you guys here are actually very decent.
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And bring the god dam Colts back!
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Lots of dolphin fans hate rex but I actually respect what he has done with you guys. I just dont think the quick fix approach will be good for you guys in the long run.
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I miss playing the colts too!
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Jimbo says:
Well, ignoring all the other crap up top…
I’m glad Rex lost the weight and all that, I was worried that Rex would have a heart attack or something right as we were on the cusp of a SB run., But at the same time, it is kind of sad that in today’s world people have such a hard time doing basic things like getting exercise and eating somewhat properly that they need surgery to keep weight off.
Oh well.
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yeah i’d like to play the colts 2x a yr. we used to abuse them pretty good-even after they got peyton. that was our best performance in a loss for sure last year. it would be more fun than the bills.
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Paper, Rex is the type of guy who says he’s comming into your place and going to punch you in the face. I would think any fan wouldn’t take to kindly to that. BUT! Belicheck filming signals… I wish he was banned Pete Rose style!
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Dont you guys worry about Armando to much because most dolphins fans think that he’s a total idiot too.
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Jim, Sorry… Didn’t mean to crap above an below you…
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The way Armando sometimes berates our players I was beginning to think that he was one of you guys, lol!
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I think the best thing Armando’s ever done was to send us to your site. At least now I see you guys are nothing like we have been errantly led to believe.
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Do you guys really like the “Wildcat” or do you feel like it’s a gimic?
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Armando hates Ricky Williams with a passion just because Ricky will not give him interviews.
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It’s not a gimic when you have a guy like Ronnie Brown running it. But since the Marshall acquisition I believe we will see far less of it in 2010. Rex has diagnosed it very well anyway.
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I hate when we run our version of it even though we’ve had some success. Ronnie Brown is the most underated player in the NFL. Just my opinion but I’d take 1 Ronnie Brown over 2 Marshalls…
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Andrew in Iowa says:
I think we are all forgetting to simply respect our opponents. Before miami traded for Brandon Marshall, I think most of us Dolphin fans were a little jealous of the Jets. Who doesn’t like their team to be aggressive and sign big names? I get that. There are more than one ways to skin a cat, and both teams are taking opposite approaches to get the the super bowl. As a Dolphin fan, I’m confident in our approach, and like our team. Both teams seem to be hitting our strides, should make for a great two games this year. Ps. Bent, I’m impressed with how u run the site, and regulate the posts. Armando is a good guy, the racist things some comments were implying at were just childish. Thanks
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I guess I’m not a big fan of misdirection Offences. Henne looked like he might have some promise?
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Brown cant stay healthy. He maybe best remembered as coulda qoulda shoulda.
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I guess he’s the AFC version of Westbrook!
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Beastmode says:
Mark Sanchez is good, but he is not a game changer. He does not have a strong NFL arm, nor does he have the size to be elite or even a top 15 qb. Due to his size, he is not able to stay in a collapsing pocket and make the right throws. Often times he gets fluttered and has to dump the ball off. This is the reason why the ball was not in his hands for important situations. Henne is better then Sanchez. Henne has a strong arm, has the size, the accuracy, and can stay in the pocket to make throws. The Dolphins have better recievers. They finally have a number 1 receiver in Brandon Marshall, and Revis will not be able to guard him. Why? The dolphins have the Jets number. Remember Revis got beat for a 50 yd TD by Ted Ginn? That was pathetic. (the fins have a better QB and Recievers) as of now. Let’s move to running backs- Shone Greene is a mediocre back, and the fins have two great backs in Ricky and Ronnie. I don’t know much about the Jets O-line, but all I know is the dolphins line is solid and has depth. Move to Defense. Corners- Revis is great and cromartie is on the decline. He had a terrible season last year and there are no indications leading me to believe he will have a turn around. The dolphins are on the uprise. Vontae had an excellent first year, and is the hardest hitting CB in the league. Sean smith had a good rookie year as well and is on the rise as well. Give it two years and the dolphins will have the best set of CBs in the NFL. Oh yeah, our starting CB Will Allen is returning. Our linebacking corps have improved by the signing of Karlos Dansby. He is one of the best coverage linebackers in the league, allowing Channing chrowder to focus on being a run stopper where he prevails. Oh yeah, the signing of Koa Misi will help. He’s another young versatile athlete. And the Jets? They are desperate enough to take our damaged goods in Jason Taylor. I love Taylor, but he’s past his time.
Let’s recap. Last year the Jets were the joke of the NFL. They shouldn’t have made the playoffs. They lost Thomas jones and filled his gap with an old player. They lost lito sheppard and Kerry rhoades and replaced him with the washed up cromartie. They added a problem in Holmes. He’s already suspended and who knows if sanchez can get the ball to him.
The Dolphins? Almost made the playoffs when they lost their starting QB, RB, CB, NT, RG, and C. All these players are returning either for more depth on the bench or to resume their starting roles. The Dolphins signed two main, top tier free agents in Marshall and Dansby. And also brought in the best D coordinator.
Oh yeah, the Dolphins have better weight trainers. Our coaches can get in shape because our trainers.
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At least 75% of Dolphin fans want to scrap the wilcat too. Teams have figured just put at least 8 men in the box. Ronnie doesn’t scare anyone to death with his passing accuracy.
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Beast, You got me smiling a bit here. You don’t know anything about our O line. We have 2 probowl WR. THE best CB in the league. We didn’t “lose” Lito or Rhodes… We know where they are. Also we drafted Wilson who is a CB.
Henne better than Sanchez? I guess we’ll see. Look at him in the playoffs last year and Shone Green. You need to study the Jets better if you want to make direct comparisons.
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We are getting some special treatment from the League this year with all the prime time spots and Hard knocks, plus the SB in 14 so I would understand some fans being ticked at us right now…
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Actually Sanchez is the only reason I dont see the Jets making the SB in 2010. Sanchez will see more blitzes, exotic schemes to confuse him, and teams will crowd the line of scrimmage to shut down the run game. DC will invite Sanchez to beat them.
Your defense maybe great enough to limit teams to 10pts a game but Sanchez mistakes could cost you guys another 10pts or slightly more.
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Paper, I wish they would scrap and go head to head with everybody because they are an above .500 team. I really think they will go as far as Henne takes them… like Chad did.
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At this point I wouldnt say Henne is better than Sanchez. But I will say Henne has a better set of physical tools than Sanchez, which gives Henne the better chance to become more successful than Sanchez as they move into the future.
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Sanchez plays big in big games. Looking at the playoffs last year he did see those exotic schemes and they did put 8 in the box and Sanchez was perfect but he played much better than you’d think a rookie would.
We lost to the Colts because we couldn’t get to Payton in the 2nd half and Shone Greene getting hurt. Taylor is a low risk move as is Holmes and Tomlinson.
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beastmode: the greatest post i’ve ever seen in my life.
first of all, i don’t think english is your first language, no offense. it just adds unintentional comedy to an already funny post.
second of all, beastmode is the nickname of a player for the buffalo bills, which adds a lot more unintentional comedy. but yea.
every single thing you said. every SINGLE thing. is laughable. and they don’t even warrant a full explanation. all of it is hopeless optimism on your team and baseless fiction about ours.
thank for the lols
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its because you guys are the new “hot pick”. i remember a couple of years ago when saban was the coach and the fins were the trendy pick and we got the steelers to open the season. didn’t work out so well. i’ll stick to flying under the radar. whenexpectations are so high there’s usually nowhere to go but down.
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Paper, Kyle Boller Has a better set of tools than both Henne and Sanchez. Sanchez isn’t a prototype QB physically but he just has that “it” factor and we’re riding hi on it!
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We averaged nearly 25pts per game without Marshall last season. Henne isnt my major concern. It’s our very young defense and a very tough first half schedule that has me bitting my nails.
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I wonder if being screwed over by Saban felt the same way when Belicheck left the Jets after 1 day as HC?
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Problem with Sanchez too is when “old man winter” comes in you guys are not going to win any shootouts because Sanchez’s arm isnt built for it. Sanchez is a southern cali boy. Henne’s used to Michigan winters and has the arm for it too.
There are at least 3-4 games a year even great defenses have bad outings. If you guys have them in the winter they could be automatic losses.
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I didn’t know the Dolphins Offence scored that much. We have Balt and NE right off the bat but no one ever has an soft sched in the AFC East.
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Actually I dont feel bad about Saban leaving. The guy was over his head. In the “Nick ” of time too. Saban could have been the guy being credited for the 1-15 record. Instead it was Cam Cameron. But in reality it was Wannstadt who set the ball rolling downhill for us. Cam was just the unlucky guy in place when it finally stopped rolling.
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Yeah we had no major problem scoring points. It was in stopping the opponents from scoring where we had the major problem. One of the games against you guys we scored 31pts.
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Sanchez fared quite well in the two Bengals games in frigid weather. His playoff game in Cinci, probably the coldest game of the year, he went 12 for 15 in one of the most efficiently quarterbacked games in NFL playoff history. He’s not a liability in the cold.
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Wannstadt, He was Kotite bad!
Sanchez highlights:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FT55CeBvaxg&feature=player_embeddedSanchez’s arm strength is not an issue at all. I hear that quite a bit. His arm is much stronger than Penningtons. He’s not Testaverde but the Kids arm is legit NFL quality even in winter.
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Not to mention, one of the three incompletions was dropped in the endzone by Edwards. For the record, Edwards had four drops in the regular season and one in the postseason.
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31 pts… 14 of those were on kickoff returns and I think 7 more on a fumble return though that might have been the other game. I’m not being a sore loser but I’m just saying that it wasn’t the Offence that scored those 31. You GOTTA play special teams or that stuff can happen!!!!
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That’s not true. I don’t know enough about each lineman to Amie a comparison about both lines. The Dolphins is solid and the Jets is too I just think they are even. Two pro bowl wide receivers? Braylon has stonehands. Santonio is a product of Rothlisberger.
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Jon, don’t remember the one in the post season… I think they just blended together at that point. One drop after another, none as bad as the one against Buffalo where it bounced off his helmet. DOH!!!
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We finished 20th in passing last season and you guys finished 31st. Sanchez needs to be far better this season. Even the Ravens would not have won the SB when they had the all world defense if a Trent Dilfer led passing attack had finished one digit from dead last.
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You should know at least something about our O line… Faneca went to the probowl the 2 years even though he was an iffy selection. Both Mangold and Ferg have gone. 3 out of 5 OL in the pro bowl. Yes the probowl is BS but it’s a fact they went. No body is a product of Ben. Brady, Manning, Brees… They make products but not Ben.
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marino13 says:
We dont worry about you Stinking Jets:
Jets Management/Coach Talks Too Much without winning anything. See below. Dolphins 3, Jets 0 last three games.
By Armando Salguero
asalguero@MiamiHerald.com
It has been a truly entertaining NFL summer, with much of the fun and frolic delivered by the world champion New York Jets.Oh, did you miss the news? The Jets have crowned themselves the offseason champions again, so it’s only correct to acknowledge them as such until evidence proves otherwise.
Evidence will begin to pour in starting in the regular season.
Until then, the Jets are the NFL’s best team. Just ask them.
Quarterback Mark Sanchez talks of February visits to the White House to celebrate the coming title, coach Rex Ryan fuels the high-expectations fire every time he conducts a news conference.
No one knows what form the next New York boast will take, but we do know when it will happen: next time one of them opens his mouth.
BEST IN NFL?
The latest slice of Jets bombast came this week from linebacker Bart Scott, who said the goal of the Jets defense is to be the best in the NFL. “Ever,” he reportedly added at the end of the sentence.
So what are we frightened South Floridians to do with such a menacing storm of NFL talent amassing on our shores for a fall blitz?
What are the Dolphins to do against a mighty New York team that spent the offseason making Super Bowl tweaks while Miami’s bunch spent their offseason unsuccessfully trying to avoid arrest?
Turns out the Dolphins don’t seem too concerned about the Jets and their embarrassment of talent riches. Turns out the Dolphins, who swept the Jets last season, aren’t too concerned about their greatest rival at all.
“Who?” running back Ronnie Brown said dismissively when someone wanted to know his opinion of New York’s many additions.
The Jets, the questioner repeated. “Who?” Brown responded again for effect.
Nose tackle Jason Ferguson, a veteran of 13 NFL offseasons, can appreciate great roster building when he sees it. But ask him if the Jets are the best team in the AFC East and he looks at you like you’re an exotic zoo exhibit.
“The Dolphins!” Ferguson answers. “Yeah, we are.”
Is that what he thinks? Does Ferguson really think the Dolphins are the best team in the AFC East today?
“Why wouldn’t I?” he said. “I’m not going to say no other team is better than us. I think we did what we were supposed to do. We’re out here and working hard. We’re building a foundation like they are. I’m not going to crown them the offseason champs right now.”
These two teams got into a debate about offseason championships last year. That discussion was meaningless as both stumbled into December. Then the Jets finished with two consecutive victories and played well in the playoffs, and Miami slumped with three season-ending losses.
This offseason, the debate isn’t quite so personal because the Jets fancy themselves in a different orbit than the Dolphins. Reaching the AFC title game apparently does that for a team.
And although the Jets have all but announced they will be playing for a Lombardi Trophy, the Dolphins haven’t even announced if they will show up for 2010.
DIFFERENT MANAGEMENT
That speaks to the personality of the men atop each organization.
But the players in Miami don’t view themselves as outclassed by their New York counterparts.
Cornerback Sean Smith, a rookie a year ago, got to talking Friday about matching up with veteran New York receiver Braylon Edwards in their two 2009 meetings.
“We had a couple of good battles,” Smith said.
Won by . . .?
“Oh, by me of course,” Smith said. “Do you have to ask?”
Smith was having fun with the question but suddenly got serious to give a more calculated, responsible answer.
“No, I definitely won those battles,” he said.
That’s the feeling among several Dolphins players. Yes, the Jets have used the offseason to make moves.
“But you still have to go out and play no matter who you have,” Smith said. “I’m not worried.”
Read more: http://www.miamiherald.com/2010/05/29/1653815/fins-not-concerned-by-jets-moves.html#ixzz0pZXbwciU
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Kevin G says:
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woody and moore, the guys on the right side for hte jets were two of the best run-blockers in the NFL. there’s a reason the jets ran right so often.
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uh…. why did you post the article that this post was originally about? i know that intelligent discussion isn’t your strong suit, but that’s pretty bad, even for a fins fan…
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Just pulled it off of nfl.com. we won the first game 31-27 where ginn burnt down down Revis Island with th 50yd Henne bomb.
We won the 2nd game 30-25 when Ginn set fire to you guys special teams. Where is Fireman Ed when you really need him?
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Paper, Sadly that stat produced another stat I hate the most… “The #1 rushing Offence” is slightly over rated. We HAD to run so we ran more than any other team. We ran up a ton of yards against Buffalo and Oakland. We made Thomas Jones look like Jim Brown! Our running game was very good. Prob top 10 but we couldn’t pass… Rookie QB, new WR, but he got better as the season went on. Go to nfl.com and check his stats in the playoffs. Stats are huge on this site!
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by the way Jon Presser, the only reason you are a Jets fan is because you couldnt get season tickets for the Giants. The Giants family dont allow trashy fans like the Jets Fans.
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Fireman Ed would have done a better job that Izzo on those two returns :)
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WW85 says:
After reading this whole series of posts, I am somewhat amazed that so many Dolphin fans bother to post on our blog in May? Well, it’s good to see a modern day sports rivalry generate this much energy. I had to laugh when a Fish fan posted that they had won a more recent Supe than the Jets. NEITHER TEAM has done squat for over 30 years that was meaningful. Miami couldn’t win one with Marino? Perhaps the greatest QB until PManning. Well, I actually think that is the saddest statement to make about the Miami Dolphins. The greatest player NEVER to win a superbowl. I never hear Mercury Morris running his mouth about that.
I have a lot of hatred for the Dolphins, but also a lot of respect. It will be an exciting series this year. Fans from either team who think there will be 2 easy games this year are nuts.
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Rk Player Team Pos Comp Att Pct Att/G Yds Avg Yds/G TD Int 1st 1st% Lng 20+ 40+ Sck Rate
1 Peyton Manning IND QB 87 128 68.0 42.7 956 7.5 318.7 6 2 51 39.8 46 9 2 4 99.0
2 Drew Brees NO QB 72 102 70.6 34.0 732 7.2 244.0 8 0 39 38.2 44T 6 1 2 117.0
3 Kurt Warner ARI QB 46 59 78.0 29.5 584 9.9 292.0 5 1 29 49.2 33T 6 0 2 129.1
4 Brett Favre MIN QB 43 70 61.4 35.0 544 7.8 272.0 5 2 28 40.0 47T 9 2 3 97.6
5 Mark Sanchez NYJ QB 41 68 60.3 22.7 539 7.9 179.7 4 2 26 38.2 80T 6 3 1 92.7
6 Tony Romo DAL QB 45 70 64.3 35.0 442 6.3 221.0 2 1 23 32.9 36 3 0 8 85.5
7 Aaron Rodgers GB QB 28 42 66.7 42.0 423 10.1 423.0 4 1 17 40.5 44 9 1 5 121.4
8 Philip Rivers SD QB 27 40 67.5 40.0 298 7.5 298.0 1 2 15 37.5 37 3 0 2 76.9
9 Donovan McNabb PHI QB 19 37 51.4 37.0 230 6.2 230.0 1 1 12 32.4 27 5 0 4 68.5
10 Joe Flacco BAL QB 24 45 53.3 22.5 223 5.0 111.5 0 3 13 28.9 27 2 0 1 39.4
11 Tom Brady NE QB 23 42 54.8 42.0 154 3.7 154.0 2 3 9 21.4 24 1 0 3 49.1
12 Carson Palmer CIN QB 18 36 50.0 36.0 146 4.1 146.0 1 1 7 19.4 19 0 0 3 58.3 -
Marino, No one can afford the PSL’s!
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92.7 playoff qb rating for Sanchez not bad at all.
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If Sanchez can get a 92.7 rating for the 2010 regular season games you guys would have at least 13 wins. an 80 rating or lower and the Jets will again struggle to become a wildcard playoff team.
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In case you Jets fans missed it, Peter King, probably the best journalist that covers the NFL(he gets his information from league scouts/coaches/gm’s), ranks the Dolphins ahead of the Jets for this seaon.
6. Miami. I probably like the young quarterback more than most do; I think Chad Henne is set for a breakout year, and I think the receiver group (Brandon Marshall, Brian Hartline, Davone Bess) will be good enough to give Miami enough at that position for the first time in years. Even though the Dolphins didn’t get a fourth receiver like the one they wanted (Demaryius Thomas) on draft day, they’ll be good enough there to contend.
The most important rookie in the league to a playoff contender, other than Ryan Mathews of the Chargers, could well be Koa Misi, the second-rounder projected to rush the passer for Miami. But as Bill Parcells has said since he came out of the womb, “They don’t sell insurance for that kind of thing.” They don’t, and Misi needs to have immediate impact to bolster the one area of the Dolphins that they need the most help — pass-rush.
7. New York Jets. Tough team to forecast, through all the glitz. The one thing I like a lot about the Jets is their ability to make tough decisions, even when the decisions seem ruthless. GM Mike Tannenbaum said goodbye to two locker room pillars, running back Thomas Jones and guard Alan Faneca, when he knew there’d be player rumblings about it. Tannenbaum has put his trust in offensive line and running-game guru Bill Callahan to keep the best running game in football rolling. There’s a lot about this team that’s a tinderbox. Will Santonio Holmes and Braylon Edwards coexist peacefully? Can LaDainian Tomlinson be happy being a middle-relief pitcher? Will Antonio Cromartie tackle, even a little? Make no mistake about it: There’s more pressure on Rex Ryan than on any other coach in football this year.
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for the record, ginn beat kerry rhodes for a 50 yd td in the first game. revis was in zone coverage and released ginn up to rhodes, who was traded because he refused to learn the playbook and was out of position, because he did not know his assignment. once revis released ginn to the safety and saw the safety wasn’t there, he put on the burners to try to catch him, but we all know ginn is one fast SOB.
his two KR were because our best special teamers were deactivated to make room for wildcat run stuffers. we absolutely shut down the dolphins offense in that game, but the special teamers, full of inexperienced guys, broke contain on the right side both times and cost us the game.
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LOL at referencing peter king as an informed journalist. his column is talking about text messaging football players and random conversations with ppl who talk to him, as well as coffee rants and random meaningless stuff about his life.
http://kissingsuzykolber.uproxx.com/2010/05/peter-king-lost-his-blackberry.html
enjoy
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92.7… I never thought he’d do that well in the playoffs. I thought we were 1 and done and it would have been an ok rookie season ie growing pains.
Forget the numbers. Any one should like Sanchez just becuase of this. He’s “Seeing” a model… He gets invited to the White house… Who does he bring? His LT! He is everything you want your QB to be… The anti ROMO!
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Marino13, chill dude. I am a Dolphins fans too. I know Armando sent you here with that blog just like he did me. These guys here are nothing like those idiot trolls who invade our site. Give them a break.
I was trolling when I first came too but really these guys are not bad at all. Actually this site is a lot more orderly than the ones we are used to.
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Look at Pete Prisco”s of the most overated/underated players for each team. He names the next Joe Montana, QB Mark Sanchez as the most overrated player on the Jets team. See below…
New York JetsOverrated: QB Mark Sanchez. I really think he will be a good player. But let’s hold off on putting him as a top-tier quarterback. He wasn’t even the best rookie passer during the 2009 regular season.
Underrated: LB David Harris. I loved him coming out of Michigan and he has lived up to the billing. How he hasn’t been to the Pro Bowl is a mystery.
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I believe 2010 maybe a little tougher for both Henne and Sanchez. DC’s around the league will be throwing the kitchen sink at both this season.
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I’ll take your word PaperChamps. With these Jets fans, you need to be careful. Is so Ironic that they love living in NY so much, but they want to move down here for a lot of reasons; weather, less taxes, etc…
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pete prisco? so what? he’s naming a player on each team in an arbitrary fashion. marino13, you got anything to add to this discussion besides garbage? anything insightful at all?
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i just saw that blog post the dolphins writer wrote about this site. are you serious? an actual beat writer who wants to be respected actually links to a great blog of a rival team and tells people to troll? yes i know he didn’t say THAT, but that’s what’s happened. give it time fins fans, if you read this site consistently, you’ll see its far more fair and objective than armando whats his name over there. the lack of professionalism from a beat writer is shocking, quite frankly.
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Marino, “Get a real Job” Wow that’s good stuff! I’m not paying $2K for a PSL!
The weather and Taxes are nice but there’s a reason we leave to!
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jon presser, I am telling you that the Jets maybe an 8-8 team. Team is not as talented as you guys think you are. You are just like the democrats, when you cant argue on point, you take a shot at me personally..
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Marino13 from the looks of our blog the Jetfans down here seems like the the NY dept of sanitation made a very long lefthand turn after a very bad night of NewYear’s partying and pressed the dump button.
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Marino, You just took a shot at me!…. Personally!
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Reprocity, I thought you guys loves the jets soo much that you will stop contributing to your kids education to go to their games!! What happened here!!
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never took a shot at you personally, just asking truthfully if you plan on adding anything relevant and/or insightful to the conversation. you have no idea how many games my team will win.
what is “you are just like the democrats” just what does that even mean? get that trash outta here. this is a jets blog, not a whine-about-politcs blog.
come strong or go home.
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“I thought you guys loves the jets soo much that you will stop contributing to your kids education to go to their games!! What happened here!!”
again, what does that even MEAN? what are you talking about?
you wanna pay a couple thousand to sit in the stadium, or do you wanna watch it for free on your tv on the couch, while checking fantasy stats and relaxing? you tell me.
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CA_fin_fan says:
The Jets are OVERRATED. They got huge breaks late last season. Before that, they were and still are a very average football team. And you have to be kdding yourself if you think Sanchez will take your team to the promised land.
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Even the New Yorkers are glad that some of the trash we get down here has left.
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Ca_fin_fan seems you are here to join the idiosy too.
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I am going to my dolphin screen name(DyingBreed)
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this is pretty entertaining, i’ve gotta say. paperchamps, you’re a class act and i appreciate the banter. i’m here watching a baseball game on TV with a football score (17-6! lol) and this comments page is really good stuff in comparison haha
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Can you help me out with the kids bit? I ahve no idea what that meant at all…
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Califin these guys are not nearly as bad as those trolls who come onto our site
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im glad you’re changing your name, though. you know, revis said specifically that “paper champs” is something this team refused to be. :)
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CA, What were we supposed to do against Cincy, and Indy? Lose on purpose? What about us in the playoffs?
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Dying breed, Next Jets/Dolphins game if you’re in the Albany NY area, come on over for a beer!
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That was a good one Reprocity! LOL
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And no Super Bowl tickets to PSL holders says:
If Roger Goddell donated 2 50-yard line seats to a football game to help raise money in the town he lives in for the school, would he:
(a) donate Giants tickets
(b) donate Jets tickets
(c) donate BOTH Jets & Giants tickets
(d) donate for the Pro Bowl or some agnostic gameAnswer: (a) and it seems a bit odd – even if they are his own personal seats – which would be even worse, i.e., he should not have personal seats to 1 team.
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jon presser,
I have been a 15 season ticket holder. I am there wether they win or loose. Except for one year, the Jets have done anything. Look at the years in the 70, 70, 80, 90′S. Most of years were loosing records. Miami has been to 5 Super Bowls, many playoff games, top 5 qm of all time (Jets passed on Marino), Don Shula, Hall of fame players. Is sad to say it, but the Buffalo Bills have more history than the Jets.
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Never been to NY, but have been as far as Ohio and it did not take long to realize “Green Acres” was not the place for me.
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that’s fantastic that you live in the past like that, mario13. congrats on the 1970s. meanwhile, in 2010, the jets are the talk of the town in miami when they should be talking about their OWN team. i don’t know whats in the water in miami, perfectly good football team down there. they don’t always have to yap about the Jets so much. i would classify that as an inferiority complex. sad.
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We beat Shula, and SB 3 is what made the NFL what it is today!
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Upstate NY… Ever hear of Saratoga? You have to see the Adirondaks!
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I love the Dolphins but I have never hated the Jets. It’s the small microcosm of Jet fans that I had been exposed to that I truly hated. I think it’s “juvenile” to automatically hate someone because of “team affiliation” alone
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reprocity, no it was the NYG beating the colts in the championship game that made the NFL what it is today!!
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So Namath’s HUGE contract and the SB victory and the merger that fallowed was…..??? The NFL is a buisness and the market in NY because of Namath and SB 3 is what made the NFL happen!
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If Namath would not have beat Shula and the Colts Shula may have finished his career in in Baltimore and our 17-0 season would have never happened.
Wow, I guess that means the Jets not only beat the Baltimore Colts, they totally reshaped football history with that win. WOW!
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by the way, If Ginn has scored 5 TD’S the last 3 games aginst the Nets, how many touchdowns do you think Brandon Marshall is going to score in the first game? Especially, our offensive coordinator putting him everywhere, in the slot, x, and Y
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Ginn’s only asset is speed and Marshall isn’t a speed WR…
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When looking at the Jets SB win over the Colts as the primary clog that forced Shula out of Baltimore. I hate to say this but we do owe the Jets a debt of gratitude. If Shula stays in Baltimore we never have the undefeated SB season.
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ginn scored, i believe, one receiving touchdown and it was on blown coverage with the primary defender (rhodes) in la-la land instead of covering ginn. as far as im concerned, marshall will not have much success with revis on him like glue. marshall on his best day cannot get off of revis island. revis last year had the best season for a cover corner in NFL history. he’s 24 years old. marshall just had two hip surgeries. yea. good luck with that. against anyone but revis, he’ll be a factor.
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Dying Breed, And NE can thank us for knocking out Bledsoe.
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Fat Ryan who are you on the dolphins blog?
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Marshall will be moved around. It will be impossible to cover him.
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If you want to brag about the last three games… what about the 10 before that?
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If only those darn WR would stop moving around, we could cover them!
Moving Marshall means it will be more difficult to jam him and that’s all it does. Keyshawn was never used in the slot and never had to be moved around to be effective.
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Knocking out Bledsoe only changed things for Brady. Bill Parcells had already laid the championship foundation for Belicheat. That’s what Brady benefitted from most.
I try and tell all who will listen that in Brady’s early years if he didnt have thier championship defense already in place the Patriots would have struggled just to make the playoffs. The defense almost always gave Brady the ball in great field position. That greatly changes the way a game is called by offensive coordinators.
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Dying breed, what is the dolphins website you post on? Not for trolling, just something to do…
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SQUISHTHEFISH says:
Don’t be naive and say the are a “non-factor” cause thats clearly not true considering we couldn’t beat them once last year. There’s always this year but don’t be foolish because even Buffalo can sneak up on us.
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And they had a great kicker.
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I understand the fans being excited about the Dolphins, but everytime this writer puts pen to paper Im amazed he is still holding a job. Hes one of the worst journalists I have ever read. Writers should never be as rah-rah as he is. On top of that why does he care about the Jets? Last I saw it was the Pats who won the division, not our Jets. The Dolphins have more or less been irrelevant for a decade. I cant even recall the last time they won a playoff game. I know its a big rivalry between the two teams, but did the Jets players or fans even care when the Jets owned the Dolphins pretty much from the Parcells era through the first Favre game? Jets fans were more obsessed with New England, than caring about what they did to Miami. I dont get this obsession with the Jets.
Right now Miami has ground to make up on the two teams ahead of them. They beat the Jets head to head, but the record around the rest of the NFL was not even close. Miami had 5 wins against the rest of their schedule. The Jets ended winning 10 games if we take the Colts giveaway game out of the mix. Thats alot of games to make up even if you want to believe Miami simply has the Jets number and will sweep them again.
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Actually the Patriots did not become a prolific offense until New England got both Welker and Moss. Still they have yet to win a SB with that trio. LOL
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Jason,
Armando rags on our own players to no ends. He absolutely hates Ricky Williams. Wanna know why? Ricky will not give him an interview.
Armando is one of the most disliked writers in S. Fla period. He has a small loyal following on his blog but predominantly most Dolphin fans dislike him.
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DyingBreed, re: armando the “journalist”
that’s pretty sad that a beat writer can give an entire newspaper such a bad reputation. isnt that the same paper that dan le betard works for? i like him on espn tv, he’s great.
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I’m sure if I became a writer my friends and family would write nice things about me to!
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Armando is a firm believer in “controversy sells.” He does that whether its the Jets or our players. He even had a blog this year basically he loved the moves the Jets have been making the last two seasons over Pacells. Armando is truly a “soup of the day” beat writer. He’ll try anything to stir the pot.
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Lebatard mostly cover the Miami Heat I think. He doesn’t do much af far as football coverage right now.
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ahhh that makes sense. we have a guy on the radio here, mike francesa. biggest blowhard you’ll ever witness. his top story is whatever will make people pissed off enough to listen to his show and call in so he can hang up on them. classic blowhard stuff. sounds like all this attn is just what armando the blowhard wants too. what a tool.
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Paperchamps / DyingBreed
This dude should be honorary jets blog member of the week or something lol. Hands down the straightest opposing team fan I’ve ever seen post on here. He’s actually telling these other psychos to chill.
I appreciate it man, it gives me a headache to read the nonsense these guys are spewing. I’m all about a sensible discussion but if you’re gonna come on here name calling and bashing the team, just go back to your coloring book and STFU.
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All of these socalled writers and journalist are the same no matter the city or sport. They gush enough crap sometimes to make the greatest of fans sometimes give up on being a fan.
All of our writers here are like that. One week they are good cop and the next they are the bad cop. The whole thing is a racket.
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LOL Shane L, try going to Armando’s football blog at Miami Herald.com. Absolutely no moderation at all. It’s a freaking zoo! LOL
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@Presser
Francessa is the worst. I really wonder what got him started on this anti-Jets kick. I never heard him diss the Jets in all the years I’ve heard him talk. At least nothing over the top. Now he goes out of his way to slaughter them even if it’s a total non-football day.
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yea. it’s sad but it’s true. every team in the league has fans. each team has writers, both good and bad. every team has trolls, every team has intelligent fans. i just hate how the line between journalists and trolls is blurring. guys like armando do a disservice to journalism and all aspiring writers.
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DyingBreed
I’ll pass, I can’t handle this trash talk it drives me nuts. I can do it with the best of them but it’s just not worth it right now lol. Plus I don’t believe in disrespecting other teams like that no matter how much they’re asking for it. I think fan bases should really keep to themselves unless it’s a rational convo.
One of my best friends is a Pats fan who truly thinks they can do no wrong. It’s frustrating talkin to him but at least we make real points lol.
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and on that note, i’d like to say, trying to be unbiased, that the guys who run this blog, bassett, bent and company do a better job bringing original content, analysis, opinion, overall journalistic integrity and a cleaner comment section ;) than a so-called journalist working for a major newspaper like armando does.
kudos again to TJB.
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Dude, Armando is low man on the totem pole here. They all pretty much are pathetic. I’m sure you guys may have not heard of Greg Kote. He’s a bigger idiot than Armando.
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every team has guys that spew nonsense, i just don’t understand why the miami media HIRES those blowhards. whatever. it’s not like it’s my newspaper getting a bad reputation. luckily for me, i freelance :P
man…. i need to sleep. (>.<) good chatting with you guys, jets fans and dolfans alike. can't wait till september!
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Nothing pisses me off more than a biased reporter. Period. I give Francessa a pass even though he’s a jackass because his job is opinion based. A reporter like Armando should put the pom poms away and give the fans team info. Be a professional, when you start in with stuff like that you’re better than some idiot fan running his mouth.
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It was nice chatting with you guys and maybe we do it again sometimes. Good luck to your team and even better luck to ours. Thanks guys its been fun.
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Peace. Come back anytime but tell the majority of your miami brethren to stay home lol.
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Aight, peace out brother!
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Sometime I wanna get the hell away from them too, lol!
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Billy Blanks says:
LOL @ quoting what Peter King wrote when he had the Saints ranked 24th before the start of the year. Fish fans nobody cares about you guys. Jets fans are more focus on the Pats and Colts, you know teams who have been relevant over the past ten years unlike you guys. Thanks for caring about us so much in the month of May.
LAMES!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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NJ Phin Fan says:
Lmfao!!!You can stay her Breed trader have fun with your new bestfriends!!
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If you guys are focusing on the pats and colts you’re stupid, you guys have to win 10 out of 16 games to even think about making the playoffs and im pretty sure they arent all against the colts and pats…and the jets and their fans talk more crap in the month of may and june than any other team! OTA champs!!, remember that?
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and dont forget you guys shouldn’t have even made it to the playoffs, you guys were handed a playoff berth…and once they made it they beat a bengals team that was on the decline and played a game in which the chargers kicker missed 3 FIELD GOALS!! (you guys only won by three). you guys lost the only legit playoff game you played in, I would say you guys found the golden banana last season…you weren’t really that good
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KillerFins says:
Wow, some really good humor here, although mostly unintentional. Armando isn’t well liked among Dolphin fans, as he was pretty much a mouth piece for JT this past spring. Like most reporters/bloggers you have to take everything they say with a grain of salt. But he was 100% right in his tweet about Ryan, Ryan had the surgery because he couldn’t lose the weight on his own, why else have the surgery? But I’d agree that as far as football goes I don’t think it has much of an impact on what happens in 2010. The Jets are a good team, as are the Patriots and Dolphins. If you expect any team to run away with the AFC East I think you are sorely mistaken. Holmes, when he plays, will be a nice piece to the offense. I see LT as a downgrade from Leon, as he hasn’t shown to be the player he was a couple short years ago. Sanchez did show flashes last year but also shown that he has plenty to learn. I’ll let you guys crown the Jest as the paper champions, as it means absolutely nothing. I’ll be honest and admit I’ve always hated the Jest, but the Patriots have been my most hated team for awhile. But they’ve gone way up since Rayn took over, a loud mouth that hasn’t done crap, much like his father. He certainly likes to talk a big game, and we can only tell in 7 months if his big ass can back it up.
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Zach,
If not for injuries the Jets stood a very good chance at winning the AFC Championship. The ran roughshod over Cincy, a winner of one of the toughest divisions in the NFL and then manhandled a team many were picking to go to the Superbowl. My how a selective memory is a blessing.
Killerfinz,
The one thing you seem to have forgotten is Leon only played in 6+ games. He was having by far his worst season and LT isn’t the 3rd down back, McKnight is.
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surely you jets says:
Miami –irrelevant city, irrelevant team. And your stuck with Parcells –the sport has passed him by. Last year, true, you had two fluke wins against us. Congrats –that was your Super Bowl! You’re a seven win team, guys. Condolences.
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JB Fish Fan says:
This is going to be a great season, I can tell already! Just remember last off season that this back and forth was going on and alls we did was swept the JETS! Maybe you forgot that tidbit already!
Just keep thinking you are going to the Super Bowl this year. Come the end of the season maybe the Colts dont lay down for you and LET you SQUEEZE in like last year. The higher the expectations the further the letdown!Your jet fans though, you should be used to it.
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Kevin says:
how does this man call himself a journalist…mocking our coach for losing weight? how does this man still have a job. I read that article he put up and it was just straight up ignorant. Not only should the Miami Herald fire him but the editor that let them out up that crap should also be out of a job.
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maybe read it in context? Both coaches lost weight and he mentioned that Rex took a shortcut!
Same way he will coach this year, half a&*%. With all the so called TALLENT you guys have you better make the superbowl or someons getting fired! Cant wait for the next shleprock to come and try to do overnight what takes years to build!
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No, JB. He took a cheap-shot at a person in a non-football related area. That’s bush league. He could have easily praised Sparano for his weight loss without even mentioning Rex. Instead, he made himself look like a chump.
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He was placing the weight loss in the same competiyion as the teams but I can see both sides of the argument. I do like what he did with your D but overall just don’t see why everyone thinks the are super bowl bound? Just don’t see it, Dolphins are not going either but I think we are closer than most think!
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The Guy who will be sitting in the Seat you cant afford says:
I believe the jests have lost 3 in a row the the Fins, so shut ur mouths.
When you are stuck on your couch this year listening to the game on ESPN 1050s horrible reception because you can afford a PSL and the games are blacked out You can come back to this blog and cry
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Dolphins you were 1-15 not too long ago! We were in the AFC Championship game last year, and a Super Bowl contender this year! You got smacked around in the playoffs with our leftover Chad Pennington by REX RYAN DEFENSE REMEMBER?!
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What do you have to show for it?
A PSL you cant afford or PSL you blew JRs college fund on?
Have fun with the radio broadcasts…and following the game online..
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sammy29 says:
Just thought I would drop by and see what is like to troll the Jets blog like they do ours.You guys gotta be wondering why you got rid of two outstanding running backs to downgrade to two future backups.I’m sure that’s the way to help your young QB out in the passing game.We will beat you guys twice this year.Thanks
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Hey The Guy Who Won’t Be Sitting In My Seat That I Can Afford,
And before that precious little streak the Jets had won 5 in a row, 8 out of the previous 9 and 13 out of the previous 17. So yeah, hang your hat on that 3 game win streak. Impressive.
JB,
People think the Jets are possibly Superbowl bound because:
-Their defense (whether Phin Phans want to admit it or not) is the best in football. With the additions of Jason Taylor (seriously I can’t believe Cameron Wake is better than him, and I watched the film), Antonio Cromartie, Kyle Wilson and Brodney Pool the defense only got better. I could go into painstaking detail about each player, but for everyone’s sake I’ll make it short & sweet. They now have 3 man-cover corners, so, in lamen’s terms, Rex is going to get more creative than we’ve ever seen. He’s never had 3 corners of this caliber, and he’s not hiding his excitement.
- The running game, which is tops in the league, will still be there. Don’t need to go into much more than a simple “Shonn Greene the War Machine”.
- The passing game will be vastly improved. When Holmes returns, Sanchez will have receiving options of Braylon & Holmes on the outside, Cotchery in the slot, Keller in the other slot or at TE, and LT/McKnight in the backfield. The Jets completed the lowest amount of passes to the RBs in football last year, and conversely Peyton Manning (who led the league in completion %) had more than double the Jets’ totals. So between the “pick your poison” issue for defenses on the outside, and the likelihood that Sanchez’s completion % will jump up because he has legitimate options out of the backfield (and a better relationship with his TE, that blossomed in the playoffs), it’s a safe bet that the Jets are a much scarier team passing the ball.
- Coaching. Rex with a BIG year of experience. Bill Callahan/Brian Schotty still running the offense. Continuity. Improved game management. Rex is the best motivator in the NFL.
Those are basically the reasons. This team is close, “closer than you think”.
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Sammy,
Two future backups? Really? Greene is the next big thing at RB, McKnight was drafted to be the next Leon (Leon wasn’t a starter, in case you forgot) and LT is a mentor/all-purpose backup. LT will get short-yardage carries, 3rd down plays and a few drives per game. It’s a perfect storm, and when TJ posts a 3.6 YPC this year and Leon plays less games than he did last year, please be sure to come back and say you were wrong.
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sammy,
That was the most ridiculous statement I have ever heard. Next time if you decide to troll at least study up on your facts.
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By the way…Cromartie was a good pick-up.From what I’ve read so far….you guys are not cut from the same cloth as the classless jet-trolls we have on our blog.Good football talk with no personal attacks is great.If you ever wanna argue football you know where to find me…..Sammy29
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Hey Dolphreaks, how’s it gonna feel when we can line up Cromartie, Revis, Wilson, one on one against your crappy receivers ( dont worry Revis will handle BMarsh, HECK Cromartie used to handle him in Denver!) and then we sent that Rex Blitz to destroy your sorry ass O line and Crybaby Henne in half? Dont think you gonna be running the ball either with that stoner.
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E.Weeks….come see me in week eight….We(mostly you) will know more then.
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Ha week eight? We are gonna have Santonio back by then. Dolphin fans are a joke.
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Sexy Rexy, Revis is a great Cb but he better not have an off day against us (Ted Ginn).Don’t forget we don’t have to pass to win.Passing will still be plan B.
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Sammy,
I won’t call your wins lucky (I don’t believe any wins are “lucky”, just individual plays), but you can’t seriously believe that your team is going to run all over the Jets again. In the 2nd game the Jets destroyed the Dolphins offense, but special teams blew the game. Well, the Jets went out and revamped ST’s this year (one of the many, many things you DON’T hear about) and without Jet-Killer Mr. Ginn, what will you do?
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You don’t have to pass to win? Why did you get Marshall then? Revis off day? Im hearing all these things that dont make sense.
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Brendan
Watched film? Come on buddy! Do you work for a NFL team? You broke down all the film of all 16 dolphins games? You must be a jet fan. No job, no real prospects on the horizon for you! Plenty of time to watch some NFL channel.That Jet D sure did give up a lot of yards to those Fins receivers last season.
Did you run out and get a Jayson Taylor jersey? When his shoulder is not letting him be productive and he is out there each week getting blown away….talk to me.
You know you cant stand the guy..wait till he falls flat on his face.And please get off the DBs..ever wonder why SD let cromartie go? This aint Boise St anymore.
The War Machine…really.
Sad Sad Sad…and in your hearts you all know ….ITS THE JETS and we all know how that story ends.
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hojo3 says:
Sammy, you are deranged if you think the fins stand a chance…the more your crappy writers bash our team, the more your sorry a## team will feel pain! Bart Scott For Prez!!!
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I do believe we will still run on your blitz packages.We have done alot in the offseason to upgrade our LB core.I don’t believe either team is gonna have the same approach this season.Good luck.I look forward to these rivalry game as I’m sure you do too.I don’t think either team is gonna let ST be the deciding factor in our 2 games this year.
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Ugh broke guy who cant afford a seat…Cromartie didnt fit in the San Diego scheme of zone defense, now that he gets to play one on one where he has a superstar cb (REVIS) doing the same, he can finally play his brand of defense. You think any of your receivers are even decent enough to handle Cromartie? that’s funny.
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Hojo,Thanks for the name calling.I am not deranged to think My Dolphins will be able to play football with your World beating Jets.We have seen time and time again what happens to teams that try to build through free agency(Redskins).I think with all of the new players you guys have aquired it will take time to gel.That being said….We’ll see.
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Rexy, we went out and got Marshall because we didn’t have a true#1 receiver.We needed balance.You think Marshall was a bad pick up?
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jorge says:
Why can’t Jet fans leave out the fact that Armando Salguero is Hispanic? Does that have anything to do with his blog or commentary?
It would be nice if a football/sports discussion could occur without some bigotry. My bet is that Armando is more educated than you and probably just as American as you.
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no Marshall was a good pickup, its just not good enough against Revis. not even good enough against Cromartie. And you guys let go of the only guy who was fast enough to actually outrun the Jets D, Ted Ginn. 2 fluke kickoff returns remember? Rare blown coverage wide open remember?
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Sampetra says:
Alright guys, let’s cool down, relax, and keep it classy.
Allow me to set the mood.
http://www.rainymood.com/
http://www.endlessyoutube.com/watch?v=HMnrl0tmd3k
http://www.endlessyoutube.com/watch?v=DIx3aMRDUL4Open all 3 in individual tabs, come back to this thread, and chill.
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That guy says:
“One final note on Tony Sparano’s 30-lb. loss: He did it thru hard work, not a lap band. ”
I didn’t see “Rex”, “Ryan”, or “Rex Ryan” mentioned in there anywhere.
Just becasue you’re paranoid doesn’t mean they’re not out to get you though.
Sleep tight Jet fans.
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Rexy,The reason Revis(and the safety who was supposed to help over the top) got burned is because the didn’t believe that Ted Ginn could catch the ball,even if wide open so the were watching for the run or a shorter pass route.Now with Marshall you guys will have to cover which should help us run better….or at least that’s the thought process behind it.Like I said before time will tell and our teams have alot more to worry about than eachother.
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nicko says:
hey Armando Salguero , stick to Futbol you clown……….guess all them scrub dolphin fans are nervous that we adding pieces , while they adding injured WRs……..Marshall will get embarrassed by Revis, just like every other receiver did last year….screw the Fins and their fake fans……..
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AKA Jack says:
sammy29-
How come when you guys go out and get free agents it’s called building through the draft but when the Jets do it it’s somehow a crazy strategy? The Jets young core is built of players drafted by the Jets and brought up through the system. We have added to that core, just as the Fins have, through free agency. Had his arm not given out again last year, your starting QB would be one of our castoffs and had he not ingested banned substances your nose tackle would be another.
The Jets have admittedly not been as consistent a franchise as the Fins. Can’t blame the fans for that, most of us disagreed with many of the moves and we didn’t have Don Shula sitting on the competition committee paving the way. But those days appear behind us. We have a solid front office that is assembling a team and an organization that top free agents want to come to much like the FIns used to have.
The Jets are clearly a team on the rise and the Fins seem to be making some good moves too. I think we have a better organization and team now. Let’s see what happens when the ball is snapped.
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Ugh Revis one on one against Marshall , it dont matter if its run, pass, whatever Revis gonna give him the Randy Moss treatment. Heck even on the sideline he gonna be covering him so I think we are good there. And now that we don’t have soft ass Kerry Rhodes anymore we can actually use some more aggressive safety blitzes against the run.
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Nicko,settle down…you might wanna post your tirade on the “Miami Herald” if you want Armondo to read it.The only intelligent thing you type was stick to football….and you spelled that wrong.
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Rexy, Our O-line should buy us enough time to hit check downs.Maybe not every time but at least some of the time….much better than last year.I’m hoping Henne’s improve his blitz recognition.
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“improved”
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Miami Sam says:
Salguero is right this is just another example of big fat Rex not practicing what he preaches. He talks about discipline and motivation and then insstead of losing weight like normal people he goes and does the short cut method. As for your great pickups. Cromatie will be so involved with his 10 custody battles be will not be focused on the season and Holmes after his suspension is still a bad guy and a guy that will be suspended again, soon. There is a reason why he was available for a 5th round pick. If Ginn was able to toast Revis what will Marshall do to him in our offense. Marshall is better then al of your receivers COMBINED. The guy had 21 catches in a game did all of your receivers do that in a game last year?? As for your pickup of all the old broken down players they are jsut that old and broken down, good luck keeping them on the field all year. JT was done last year and Miami and the rest of the league knew it. Most of your additions were guys that no other team wanted, what does that say about those players?? It says that they are bad seeds and bad seeds spoil a locker room. Good Luck Jest fans because come November you will be your old Just End The Season selves.
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aka Jack,I don’t believe the Dolphins or the Jets have been consistant as of late.You might recall since Marino retired our QB position has been a terrible revolving door.lol
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Some of you Phin trolls are embarrassing yourselves and your team!
Who had the most rushing yrds in last years Playoffs? One of those backups you mentioned, S.Greene. Who averaged 5.6 ypc and supplanted a 1440 yrd veteran who was not injured, all in his rookie year. That sounds like a future backup to me? LOL! The Colts didn’t give us a gift you did. If you guys took care of business we wouldn’t have been able to get in but you didn’t. You choked up your playoff spot and didn’t even finish at .500! I’ll trade two losses to you scrubs for a playoff berth and a spot in the AFC title game every year! Personally I don’t think you guys will beat us with out your lucky leprechaun T Ginn. In the playoffs Dolphins PSL’s stand for Personal Sofa Loafer! You can watch us in the playoffs or the Burn Notice marathon! -
Jetson,You might be upset right now but you’ll get over it.S.Greene is good not great.M.Sanchez is gonna get the Penningto special from defense this year and your All World veteran supplanting RB will show his true colors.can you say eight in the box…Sanchez will have to step it up bigtime.
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Miami Sam,
If you’re going to trash our players, do your research. Cromartie has settled his court issues when it comes to his children, which he has stepped up and taken accountability on. Holmes is NOT a bad person. Talk to a Steelers fan, they love the guy. He likes to burn some tree, and that makes him a bad person? This isn’t the 50′s, you can stop listening to Reefer Madness.
Revis wasn’t toasted by Ginn. It was a coverage mishap between him and Rhodes, both thinking the other had Ginn. I think Andre Johnson is a better receiver than Marshall (as would most logical football fans) and Revis shut him down. Marshall will just join the growing list of people marooned on Revis Island. There’s no shame in that, just try to be realistic when you pump up your squad.
The Jets got players that other teams were scared of, I’ll give you that. But the Jets also have a coach that motivates better than anyone else in the NFL. He has the team focused on one goal, and that’s to win a Superbowl. You seriously are bringing up questionable character? Your new receiver acted like such a scumbag that he got his own teammate KILLED. This isn’t even debatable. The bullets were intended for Marshall, but struck an innocent. Nice guy, certainly a more upstanding citizen than Holmes, who has never lied about injuries or beaten a woman as Marshall has.
And just so you know, Marshall is overrated. Football Outsiders has him ranked 24, behind both Cotchery (22) and Holmes (10). Pro Football Focus has him ranked 32nd, behind Cotchery (9) and Holmes (16). So settle down with your BETTER THAN ALL YOUR PLAYRS COMBINED ASKLJHGKLJHSDGJKLHSFGJKLHS banter.
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Gotta go…thanks for the dialogue Rexy.Go Phins!!
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Sammy,
Can you say nine in the box? The Jets faced 9 in the box all year last season. It’s nothing new. They just keep pounding away and eventually the defense cracks. They all do. Oh, and with a Braylon/Cotch/Holmes/Keller/LT or McKnight combo on passing downs…have fun solving that riddle. Phins are well equipped for that….
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Brendan…Burn Some Trees…Ha! Better than HGH!!!Ricky used to love the trees!
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Agreed the Revis burn was Rhodes fault.
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John says:
Wow. I think it matters how you lose the weight. Rex Ryan is losing his weight the same way the Jets operating. Short term. Go get all the high price FA’s so you can win now. It gonna be awesome watching Jets win 6 games next year and have to dismantle the whole team because they cant afford to keep their players.
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matt says:
lol i love that all these people hate us. it means were making them scared
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With our additions at LB…Dansby,Crowder,and Misi will have no problem.Davis and Smith can handle your receivers…they did last year as rookies with no free safety.
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John,
We can afford to keep everyone. That’s including the guys that we need to extend.
And are you seriously trying to correlate Rex trying to prolong his life, to the way the Jets operate? That’s almost as Bush League as Armando’s post.
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Alot of players use HGH…I’m just laughing at the burn some trees analogy.No accusations on my part.
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sammy,
Sanchez had a combined 437 yards with 3 TD’s, no INT’s, no fumbles and one rushing TD.
Yeah, your corners really held it down.
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Oh, well that’s one way to say he smokes weed. I don’t personally care. I watch the NBA and it looks like 1/2 the league sleepwalks through games. Let the dude live is what I say.
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Well I guess you know how well JT will cover as a Jet.I am a big fan of his but he lost a step for sure.He gets so close to the QB but no cigar.They held it down good enough to win?
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First,, I would like to thank the moderator for not deleting my post. I do not believe that ANY blog site would be best served to tell its fans to “Troll” a site or in any way be someone who lowers the level of the site. And Armando did be certain to ask his blog people to “Play Nice” before leaving on vacation.
However, my statement about Jet fans trolling Dolphins site and posting very harsh and mocking posts is true. All but one of our sites are for the best part, not moderated.
Miami & NYJ’s have ALWAYS shared an intense rivalry.
My favorite Era being when Marino and Ken O’Brien lit the field up like a Christmas tree for a few fun years
I feel very comfortable say that the AFC Easy may look very similar to that year very soon. It may not be this season, but from what I have seen from the building process of both the Phins and the Jets leads me to believe they and NE are going to be a very daunting division to have to face. Not just inter-divisional play, but other teams having to play these three (so far Buffalo has shown me nothing) teams looks like it will be no fun task .In 1985 this was the record in the AFC East
Miami………..12-4
New York…..11-5
Patsy’s……….11-5
Baltimore…..5-11
Buffalo……….2-14Now neither any of you nor myself have any clue who will be the front runner in this scramble over the next few years. I guess you have to give NE the nod because of their extended run at being successful. But I see New England’s real problem being in the Coaching department, Not with Belechick. But with the absence of a Full blow Offensive Coordinator or Defensive Coordinator, I think they will have issues in preparation and scheming that they have been so damn good at for so freaking long. Ryan is no fool and neither is Nolan. Throwing the kitchen sink at NE will HAVE to cause them issues. Belechick is no computer and eventually he will be overwhelmed.
I like very much what both New York and Miami have done with their O and D lines. Both teams have been known for high power Offensive production and quick well disciplined Defensive play. But this is different, These two team are setting up their core players to be maulers. It is a departure to what much of the rest of the league has done. The other teams in order to take advantage of the ridiculous Corner -v- Receiver contact rules and QB contact rules has made every Corner a eventual liability (Yes even an Island named Revis) You cannot cover a guy forever, they will eventually get open and then its on . To me, great O and D line play is the heart and soul of great Football. Regardless of what the Logo on the Helmet says. To watch a team DOMINATE another team with a ton of slippery weapons with Bruising Line Play is just a sight to behold.I will finish with this statement. I believe regardless of all the talk and hype the Dolphins and the Jets are going to be a couple of very good football teams. I believe Conditioning and mental preparedness may have a large part of how things turn out. It always comes down to match-ups. That player against that player. Both teams have done well at filling question marks and getting good and proven talent on their teams. For the moment I se an advantage to the Jets in experience and having an O-line who has spent more time together. As always a well Coached Jet Defense will be a chore.
On the other side of that coin, Miami whent out and brought in the peices they needed to get the WR core where it needed to be. It will be a handfull to defend those guy and after a couple visits down to camp Hid passes has much more controll and even more velocity. Miami has also wotked very hard at Conditioning and it shows on the field. I give Miami the advantage of longer term contracts given to younger players with a higher upside. But lets face it. New York is “All IN” this year. You guys are making a title run and have done nearly everything Miami did in 1995. The hardest part for the Jets will be not having what happened to Miami in 95 happen to them in ’10. It is not an easy task and there is a reason it comes into question more then just something to talk about.
Be talking to you soon Jet fans. Once again, thanks for the consideration. Perhaps some of you can be a example of how to “do it right” when posting another teams blog. I will try and do the same…Fair enough?Go Dolphins!!!!!!!
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The NBA does have some smokers!Most of them openly admit it.I don’t care what they do as long as it doesn’t provide an athletic advantage.
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JT is on the Jets to do one thing, get after the QB. He’s a specialist, playing for cheap. I don’t get why Phin Phans keep acting as if he’s a 3-down player for the Jets.
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John-
The Jets got high priced FAs? Really? How much did the Fins pay for Dansby and Marshall? Here’s a hint, more than the Jets paid for Holmes, Cromartie, LT and JT combined.
Fins fans are the most thin skinned in the league. The fact that we now have a better team that is gaining respect around the league is driving some of you guys nuts. Our coach getting Lap Band surgery is enough to push some of you off the deep end. Maybe Rex will get a nose job and then some of you can light yourselves on fire in anger.
Rex is living in your heads rent free.
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Brenden, Ok so pot heads are good for a football team, trust me when Ricky was doing the stuff he was about as reliable as a 1975 chevy. Holmes is a mess. The only reason Cromartie has cleared up some of his baby mama mess is because the Jests gave him some up front money. When he burns through that he will be broke again and with 5 women after him how much attention can he pay to football. No other team wanted these guys. JT and LT are washed up. You guys backed into the playoffs and even your dumb coach thought you were eliminated. He motivates them by letting them do whatever they want, that is a recipe for disaster especially when you have bad character guys. As for Marshall he did not get anyone killed, there was an incident and he was involved, where was it ever reported that he was the guy that triggered it?? Just another Jest lie. Marshall at least was wanted by other teams. So I guess I was right at no time last year did all your receivers catch as many passes as Marshall did in one game and agaisnt the team that beat you to go to tht Super Bowl. Your coach is jsut like his old man, no class, he showed that with his one finger salute. JT was right Jest fans take the CL out of class, and now he is one of you. LOL
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Miami Sam,
Ricky Williams had an addiction. As in an addiction he literally couldn’t function without fueling. Holmes is not like that. Comparing the two is just not realistic. It’d be like comparing a 20 year old who got caught drinking a few times to a full-fledged alcoholic.
I guess you missed the point of the Jets forwarding salary to Cromartie. It was so he COULD concentrate on football. Solving his financial issues makes him more relaxed. Yeah, stupid Jets Brass trying to get everyone comfortable and focused. What are they thinking?
Backed into the playoffs….at 150 mph. Look, you can complain all you want, fact is the Phins had the same opportunity as the Jets, and they blew it. The Jets beat the Colts STARTERS for 3 1/2 quarters. Their defense played the whole game. Get over it.
Marshall DID get someone killed. The men convicted of the murder of Darrent Williams even admitted the bullets were intended for Marshall, who was taunting and baiting the gang members. These gang members weren’t, shall we say, dressed to blend in, either. It was widely reported, in court documents, multiple news outlets, go google search it. Marshall is an uppity punk who hits his women, gets into stupid trouble (like when he put his hand through a sliding glass door wrestling with a friend), and got a teammate KILLED. How you can compare a pot-smoker to him is baffling.
His one finger salute? Are you serious? The Phin Phans showed their true colors when the SPIT ON HIM. I’m sorry, but you’ve got to be kidding with that comment. Let Rex spit on you and you take it with a smile.
Try again, Flipper.
Oh, and this “Jests” thing, really? that’s the best you guys can do? That has to be the worst name-trashing I’ve ever seen. I think the sun is rotting your brains.
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Brendan,
I suppose if we are going to talk about the last 4 decades we could bring many things into the argument concerning who owns who, Things like…Playoff appearances…. Miami> 22
Jets> 13Divisional Titles………… Miami> 13
Jets> 4Conference Titles………..Miami> 5
Jets > 1 (AFL Champs ’68)Trips to the SB……………..Miami> 5
Jets> 1Superbowl Victories…….Miami> 2 (Unbeaten in “72)
Jets> 1All time winning %. .Miami> 400-292-4 .578%
Jets> 304-364-8 .456%So, if ya want to take it back to the stone age and make broad swipes at the situation… This is what you get. That Winning percentage is in the Top 2 by the way… If fluxuates between Miami and Dallas with the Steelers in a tight race.
My name used only is there to denote the inability thus far for Rex Ryan to win against a Miami team while in NY. I have no doubt that will change one day… when and if it does I promise to change the name.
Thanks for you very in depth and thought provoking post.
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Yeah, we all know the numbers. But your winning percentage, against the Jets, is .459. Since your name implies you own us, that is the number you should be concerned with. If your name was “Dolphins own the 2nd best winning % ever” I would agree with you. Or if it was “Dolphins get more pretty teal and orange banners” than I would as well. But when you’re losing a head-to-head battle, (whether it be ever or this decade) you shouldn’t bring that to the forefront.
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Did you mention HGH because you think its in weed? That would be tetrahydrocannabinol or THC. You guys think HGH is THC, 5.6 ypc is bad for a rookie RB, 2 wins and not making the playoffs beats 2 losses and going to the AFC title game, giving up 9 catches for 138 yrds and 2 TDS is getting the best of a WR, (that is what your CB Smith said about going against BE), losing 16.5 sacks (Porter and JT) while bring in a guy who got 1 sack and a rookie(Dansby and Misa) helps your pass rush! I think you guys are smoking way more than Bluntonio!
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Dolphan23 says:
I can’t believe how much attention this topic got. Can the season start any sooner? : )
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Rex had weightloss surgery. Not everyone can lose weight due to genetics. If Sparano and Rex had the same gentics or even a similar body type then the comparison would be fair at best. Millions of people actually need that surgery to have any chance at a somewhat normal life.
Any of you Dolphin fans like this site… you’ll love this one: http://kissingsuzykolber.uproxx.com/2010/05/this-week-in-f%e2%80%94k-you-people-complaining-about-the-2014-ny-super-bowl.html#more-27006
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@Dolphins Own the Jests
…yeah, that and those two wins over us + a 7-9 record get you a…wait for it … wait for it…a trip to…….your couch to watch us go to the AFC title game!Brendan,
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Lucas says:
Look, Armando was right. If rex wants to lose weight,
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Rex tried to lose weight naturally. He tried every diet & weight loss program you could think of. They simply do not work. Some people are naturally huge men. Rex is a wide-bodied dude who is in perfect health. This was a preemptive measure.
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This is still going on? We do need the season to start.
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Does anyone know the last time the Dophins won a playoff game?
I dont even remember since they are “the greatest” franchise in NFL history?
Oh wait it was 10 years ago. Get off the Jets jock and try to not finish 4th in the AFC East
I cant belive i missed all the fun!!
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?C says:
Go position by position againts the dolphins. They are a very good mirror image of each other. They did sweep us last year. So lets not get over our heads here and start crowning us already. I think we can easily beat the patriots, but the dolphins might be a dog fight. Anyways, lets not crown ourselves just yet.
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O'darris D'haiti says:
it is a wonder how many of you jet fans made this far in human development. first off, our writer was just comparing our coaches weight loss to your coach as they took different approaches. our coach worked his ass off like a real man that values his body and your coach simply put, let another man do the work for him. most people would find underlining reasoning for the different approaches. such as rex would take the easy way out for a quick fix as our coach put in the work to build good habits that will last (sound like our football teams).
anyways back to football something that ur sports writer here seem to lack as he talking about an article in miami that is meet to explain our coaches accomplishments with his weight. but I regress, the dolphins may not be getting washed up super stars and proclaiming we are the next world champions of football ball but believe it or not miami is as close or close as the jets. let me break it down so I don’t get accused of be blind as some of my fellow state men are and many of you jets fan are.
QB= miami, henne is a qb that carried the dolphins and won game in the 4th where mark struggled most of the year and the jet had to lean more on the run game to win game. mark showed signs of being better in 2010 as he played well in the playoff even though be still was limited in attempts.
RB- even both teams seemed to run the ball with greatness. the dolphins will have to wait and see how brown recover however williams still was able to maintain the rushing attack that finished 4th in the league. the lost of jones will hurt the jets however tomlison will ease those worries and the progess of green will also be something to watch, however tomlison is aging and green has not had a full season to prove himself. both teams have worries but mega talent in these two groups.
OL- even, 4th rushing attack miami and 1th rushing attack jets tell the story these two lines just move people.
WR- even, miami’s marshal is considered by some to be the best wr in the game (don’t think he’s the best but he is top 5) and he will make a bbunch of young wrs better in miami that are doing nothing but getting better. jets have added a superbowl mvp however he will not be playing the first 4 weeks and edwards has been a bust all but 1 year in the league. I see both wr as not doing much as mark.s will be limited in attempts and the jets will lean more on a rushing attack. however jets wrs are talented and may win a game for the jets just not the dolphins games.
DB- even, jet fans will most likely say they win this battle and I will give them a slight egde but that is all be cause I be bell is better than safty on the jets roster and sean simth and vonte davis are rookies that play very well for rookies and will progess and get better. the jets corners are better because of revis, who was bombed by ted ginn jr in the first meeting, lol. sorry had to laugh on that one. revis is a very good corner, shutdown….. not yet. antonio is good as well and will cause issues for opposing offenses. however, jim.l is an over achiever at the safty position and most likely not start on many NFL teams. if he plays well this year will recant that comment however he has not poved anything to me probably why the ravens didn’t resign him.
LB- jets, adding jason will really help the pass rush if he can stay healthy
and that big mouth mlb is pretty good aswell and can get the job done and the mlb on the team too me may be the most underrated lb in the league and is very fast and instictive. miami, is putting a lot of stocking young players here after losing porter and jason.t to other teams. dansby is agurably on of the best LBers in the NFL however outside of him I don’t see any game breakers unless the young player can step up.DL-even kris jenking is a beast when healty and not over weight. need to get right this off seson to be great this year. outside him…… you tell me, nothing. miami, starks is a very good DL not great but very good and I feel langford will be a game breaker this year but he has to prove it….
tell me whatu all think…. jet fans don’t try to hard as u may hurt urself. those with brains given me a soild well though response and I will respond in the same manner.
2010 afc east champion???
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This isn’t us crowning ourselves. Do we think we can go all the way? Yes. Do we think we are better than the phins? Yes. Do we think we are the best team in the NFL? I haven’t seen one serious post that has said yes, not one! Are we on a Phin site saying so? NO! This is in defense of a Phin writer and a bunch of Phin trolls. All Jets player have said they don’t want to be Paper champions or Offseason champs yet their jerk writer sends all these trolls,( a few good guys), to our site to stir up trouble over things the Jets and our fans haven’t said. I haven’t read one Jets beat writer dissing the Phins or any other team, (hell, we have to beg some NY writers just to say something nice about the Jets, Cimini, Meyers….).
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JetFanDan says:
I emailed this tool and pretty much said that he was a joke and i hope Rex finds him one day and takes him behind the woodshed, he actually responded to me and was like “your the joke for writing this” meanwhile he’s the one who sent trolls to the site to help and try and defend him, this guy really ins’t a paid profesional right?
what a loser
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WOW THANKS FOR STOPPING BUY HOMER MCMIAMI!
QB – Sanchez’s play in the playoffs gets brushed aside for Henne carrying the Phins against…the Pats. And I’ll give you the Jets first game (even though it wasn’t Henne who beat us). So Henne carries his team to two wins, the rest being a product of his team, not him, and he’s better than Sanchez? Homer McMiami, you slay me.
I’ll give you RB, because Ricky Williams is the only sure thing in the group.
WR – !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! A-WHAAAAAAA?!?!!? You have one receiver. One. Jets have three Pro-Bowl caliber receivers. Homer McMiami, you silly rabbit, tricks are for kids.
O-line – I’ll leave this as even, with the depart of Faneca. Not bad, 2 logical picks, two homerisms.
Secondary – ………………………………………………………………………………………………………………….. OH! You were serious. Ha. Ha. Ha. Hahahahahaha. Really? “Even.” Ok. The Jets were the #1 passing defense last year, added two CBs who are BETTER than the guys they replaced, they ahve the best player in football. Best. Player. In. Football. Not best CB, not best defensive player. Best player. But yeah, we’re even! Homer McMiami strikes again!
You came to your senses with the LBers, which is surprising.
Defensive Line – No. Jenkins and Ellis are better than anyone on your defensive line, and it’s not even close. And since Rex is the DL guru of the NFL (not exaggerating, either) he’ll always make mediocre talent into big-time contributors.
Homer McMiami, you just wasted 10 minutes of my day, so I thank you for that. But if you’re going to say something like “it is a wonder how many of you jet fans made this far in human development.” you should either type the sentence in English, or just leave it out entirely. Insulting the intelligence of people when you have the writing skill of a crayon-munching six year old is laughable.
Thanks for playing!
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this was his response when i told him to put the Pom Poms away and be a professional:
I sent my followers to a blog that posted MY Twitter account and tweet without asking me for permission or explanation. They opened the door and when I called them on it, they refused to post the comments of Dolphins fans. That is simply disingenuous to refuse to engage in the debate that they obviously started by posting my thoughts.
I have a blog and have no problem debating anyone about the NFL on there. Obviously I have proven that by answering your email. I don’t hide.
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yes the Jets as AFC east champs lol
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O’ harris-
Well thought out. I agree at all positions accept DB, ( no surprise there as you called it). here a link to a post i did on CB tandems.
http://www.ganggreennation.com/2010/5/22/1483093/revis-and-cro-left-off-the-a-team
I left tds against off by mistake. Revis and Cro each gave up only 2 last year, Davis gave up 6 and smith 4. Couple that with the difference in QB ratings against each DB, ( DR 29.4 and Cro 72, vs Davis 104.9 and Smith 116.1) and the fact that we did have the best pass defense in the league all adds up to a bigger than slight edge. If your rookies improve the gap closes. Thank you for being semi polite. -
Bent says:
We have ONLY deleted posts that don’t adhere to our commenting policy. Although he told fans to come here and be respectful, we simply don’t tolerate trolling, name calling, personal attacks, inflammatory comments and so on, in an effort to maintain a healthy discourse.
Several Dolphins fans have actually applauded the way we monitor the chat round here and called his blog a zoo.
As noted, we are not the same set of guys that trolls other teams sites, so if a Dolphins fan came here to get their revenge, all they are doing is making a series of comments that will never get read by that group of people (and will get removed from this board too, if they don’t meet the rules).
Thanks for the pageviews though!
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Jesus, I just went to check the defensive stats last year and was stunned.
We have the #1 pass D, (153.7 ypg), the Phins were ranked #24(234.4 ypg).
We have the #8 run D, (98.6 ypg), the Phins were ranked #18, (114.7 ypg)
We ranked #1 in points allowed, (14.8 ppg), the Phins were ranked #25(24.4 ppg)
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@g. JETson
coaching skill, thats why we have a d- coot.
if you look at the talent and 2008 that tell the story of talent. up to the coachs to get it out of the players.other jet fans, just SMH. no hope for some people.
jet are a good team yes best in the afc est and super bowl bound highly doubt that. but anything possiby. Brady is consider one of the best after year of cheat so it can happen. cheat do win i guess. (shot at the pats on a jets blog) lolo the name is O’darris put in yahoo and you will know the name!
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http://www.miamiherald.com/2010/05/16/1631622/miami-dolphins-jets-similarly.html
This a link that supports my thought and and goes in a little more details. those jet fans that can read may want to check it out.
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Dolphins4life says:
Truth is you guys backed into the playoffs and got a little hot for 2 and half games. Your team is clinging to the fact the we made the afc champ game. But the Jets weren’t flattered by the colts because they got whopped by the Saints.
This year the only thing the Jets got was OLD
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JesusRevis says:
You Dolphins fans are just embarrassing yourselves.
Your team wheres the same uniforms as your cheerleaders and your ownership is pathetic. Go listen to some J-Lo.
Comparing your secondary or receiving core to ours? Have you ever watched football before?
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Brendan, you’re doing great man. Fight the good fight lol. I just can’t do it. It’s like trying to talk to a 4 year old about Einstein’s theory of relativity.
You make several great points about football and this is the response.
“REX IS FAT HAHAHAHA YOU GUYS SUCK! GO PHINS!!!!”
And they question our intelligence? With these guys now posting on our site, I can skip the funnies in the paper and see what they have to say instead.
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Oh and if I hear 1 more fin fan talk about how they’re building through the draft (despite making Dansby the highest paid LB in the league and giving Marshall an absurd contract) I’m gonna flip. The Jets haven’t given out 1 big contract this offseason. Marshall will make more by week 4 than all of our FA additions combined. We picked up a few older guys to be spot players in a rotation and provide some depth.
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Haha, I know Shane. I am at work, it’s a mind-numbingly slow day, and these guys are throwing meatballs into my wheelhouse. It’s like telling Ronnie Brown’s ACL to stay intact….notttt very likely.
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The Jet Factor says:
So I guess next time the Dolphins add some older players, we reserve the right to mock them relentlessly. As far as I’m concerned they can make fun of LT and JT all they want but you know payback is a …
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As for Rex lapband Ryan, well it does matter how you get there. What you did was cut the corner and took the easy way out instead of hard work.
Tony Sparano=hard work personified sets the example and tone for the team
Lapband Ryan=cut corners and try to win now with a slew of free agents etc, back fires almost every time.
No hard work needed, and if the Jets have losing streak again, I will break down and cry. Hopefully that will set the team back on course. lol -
And this “you got OLD” line? Are you kidding me? Here is the Jets’ core:
Mangold, Brick, Sanchez, Greene, Keller, Braylon, Holmes, Cotchery, Revis, Harris, Pace, Cromartie, Wilson, Leonhard, Jenks/Ellis/Scott. Guess what guys? Only the last 3 of those players are 30+ years old (Scott will be 30 in August). Yeah, break out the wheelchairs and Matlock, WE’RE GOIN TO MIAMI! For the record I meant to retire these geriatrics, but then I just realized, you guys live in the city where most people go to die. Big ups!
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Dolphins4life,
Why are you even trying? Your beating a dead horse. Just stop, you will lose this battle.
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To say Rex didn’t work hard to try and lose weight is to show how little you know about the man and his weight. He’s tried EVERY type of diet/exercise program. He’s a huge man who is 100% healthy and is doing this because he would like to be around long enough to be a grandfather. But yeah, let’s be scummy people and bad mouth a guy trying to live long enough to enjoy his golden years.
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Geez with all the free agents we added this year……
Wait isn’t there something called the final 8 rule? Who have we signed? We gave up nothing in a trade for Cromartie, we signed LT as a backup for nothing, got Taylor to be a spot pass rusher for nothing. Traded nothing for Holmes.
By my calculations we added 2 FA’s this offseason at roughly $2.5 mil and 1.5 mil respectively. Miami added 2 FA’s at roughly 12 and 10 mil per yr? Lol yes we’re the ones handing out monster deals. Must have slipped my mind.
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YOU GOT SWEPT,
Ronnie can’t even keep his ACL intact and you’ll be lucky if Ricky can run by the time Kris Jenkins falls on him.
Darrelle Revis, Cromartie and Wilson are going to be on your receivers all day which means Chad Henne is going to have start running only to be greeted by Kris Jenkins who will proceed to rip his arms off.
You really want to play these childish games? Find another blog you witch.
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@ You got swept
Boy you Fins fans truly are geniuses. Sanchez will be out for the season in week 2 due to his arm being torn off by Wake? Is Wake gonna send a cruise missile or something to get that done cuz you guys will be in Minnesota I believe in week 2.
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Dolphins4life,
You can either get off this blog now and stop embarassing yourself or you can get your behind whooped over and over again because quite frankly your comebacks are old and stale.
Geez, talk about taking the CL out of class, it’s Dolphins like you that put Miami to shame.
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Dolphins4life is out.
What a shame I’m gonna miss him.
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REVIS is overrated? Revis. Darrelle Revis? Not Brandon Marshall? The guy who is ranked in the 20′s on both Pro Football Focus and Football Outsiders?
Braylon beasted Sean Smith, go look at a highlight reel, Braylon has quite a film vs. the Phins.
Ricky Williams is your best player. Ronnie “Has someone seen my ACLs” Brown? How about he plays for a season first.
Dansby will be the 3rd or 4th best LB on the field when he plays the Jets, and you made him the richest LB in history.
Um….Jets don’t play the Phins in Week 2, for the record, and there’s about as much chance of Cameron Wake beating Brick as me beating Brick.
Dolphins4life,
We replaced an aging runningback with a second year battering ram (Greene > Jones)
We added a player “appreaching” (approaching?) forty? Who on the roster is almost 40? The LB who is 35? Yeah, he might as well just have his Over the Hill party right now.
Jenny Jenkins? That’s funny on so many levels. The main one being that “Jenny” can literally take your weak center and loft him airborn at Henne like a sack of potatoes. You’d be lucky to have a DL as talented as Big Jenks. Cromartie? Yeah, he’s better than any CB you have, and he’s not our #1.
Thank you, come again.
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All miami fans do is talk about the Jets and our fans, yet the basis of their yapping is that WE talk too much. Isn’t that ironic?
For miami fans: ironic does not mean something that is made up entirely of iron.
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I’ll just assume all these dolphins fans are 13 year old because the grammar is poor, they lack football knowledge and the comments are childish.
YOUGOTSWEPT, you are officially the valedictorian of the idiotic class of Dolphins fans, your comments literally made me spit out my coffee.
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I’d say most of us Jets fans have done a pretty good job handling this invasion. Keeping it clean and putting down the idiots with logic. There’s a few posts on here that should prob be deleted but with so many it’s tough to keep up.
I know we’re doing well cuz the fin fans with brains, you know all 2 of them, have stated that we aren’t the ones trolling their sites and called off their own fans.
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@YOU GOT SWEPT
Tried to come and fight my case with logic but that was pretty funny!
and the comment about rex trying every thing and not losing any weight, save. I was a walk on to D1 college that cut me, but i tried harder (that what you do when u want something bad enough) and harder till i made the team…… guess what happen next? I started my senior season cause I work my Bleeping ass off!! Even after beening put in the starting role coaches wantded to me to teach rookies to play over me. What i do I showed them ever little thing i knew so we could win and I still started…. why you ask? Cause all the WORK i put allow me to perform at a higher level. Tell you lazy ass coach I said that and he can come see me in the 305. Get this fat as wip out my face. It not even hard to get a work out plan. HE’S THE HEAD COACH OF THE FREAKING JETS. Go to the conditioning coach and be like “man I really need to shed some pound” I think he’s the one to help you, just a thought.
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Can someone translate O’darris’ comment? I think he’s trying to make a connection between his making a college team to Rex losing weight. You know, because his early-20′s metabolism makes it equally as difficult as a 40+ year old man. Dude, just stop. You clearly don’t know what you’re talking about.
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Jet Factor
Like I said it’s better to just ignore them. It’s like a little kid throwing a temper tantrum. If you ignore them eventually they’ll tire out, go to their room and slam the door. Then the adults can get back to their conversation.
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Jets?
That was a simply awful comment with no support to backup your statement. Further more, I wouldn’t wish death on anyone — after all this is only a game. The sooner you realize this, the better.
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Jets? hahaha
Obesesity? Really? You’re gonna commit to that spelling? You sure? That miami school system is being very well represented here.
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96DEBACLE says:
Brendan
that wasn’t a post about REX O’darris clearly just wanted to talk about himself.I’m so proud he was a starter in college, makes me just tear up… -
Not making a connection throught age and body type. Trying to say that any task you set your mind to ca be achieve if you have the well power and the drive to get it done. Rex didn’t show that, our coach tony did. Its something great in a man to fight off human nature and not quite when the odds are not on your side. That greatness skipped rex in this instances.
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Sorry O’darris. I may talk trash but I don’t disrespect people. Personnel may be similar but coaching does make the difference. Even the talent level is not quite equal. The Jets have more ? that could elevate our talent level. If Cromartie and Edwards return to form? If LT and JT still have anything in the tank? If Greene can hold up under a full year? If Holmes can not get suspended? If Ducasse can take over for Faneca. If Rex can get all the super egos to mesh? If Jenkins can stay healthy? To me if we get a majority of these answered yes than our talent level will be higher than the Phins.
If Cromartie returns to his prow bowl ways we will be the best pass defense, again. If he is just as good as last year we still will be better than Phins in this area.
If Edwards returns to form and Holmes stays on the field our top 3 WRs trumps the Phins top 3 WRs.
If Greene holds up all years, Lt has anything left, and Ducasse steps in we will have another great year running
And if Jenks stays healthy and JT produces as much as he did last year we will again have the #1 Defense.
As far as coaching, look what a rookie HC did:
-lead his team to a 9-7 record and the AFC title game with a rookie QB.
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YOU GOT SWEPT
and still went to the AFC game
Henne to Marshall…defended by Revis
better start looking to the other side of the field. Wait whose your other receivers?
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@96DEBACLE
Thanks for the tears but their not needed.
But it touches me that a man I don’t know would shed a tear for me. THANK YOU, i really mean that. THAnKS -
I’d love to hear a Dolphin fan intelligenty explain to me where the Dolphins are better than the Jets other than at RB?
Please
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O’darris,
You are incorrect. The mind doesn’t just solve all problems through the force of positive thinking. Rex’s middle-aged body has limitations. Maybe as recently as 10 years ago he would stand a good shot at changing his body type, but the fact is he remains in excellent health and is doing this as a preventative measure. So because Rex couldn’t lose weight he’s not a great man? I truly wish my brain was that illogical, things would be so much easier to not understand.
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@g. JETson
Man you make this blog worth reading.
Their is alot of if in that but I agree IF you get most of them you should be better, however Our rookie coach tooka 1-15 team and turned it to a 11-5 and AFC EAST Champs. Last year 7-9 and missed the playoffNot saying your team will regress but most teams that improve so much overrachieve and regrees, Falcons, Arizona, Steelers (kinda their thing bad then good), and the list can go on. just saying history not on ur side and if the Dolphins are as bad as jet fans say the JETS are not to far behind. If your superBowl bound guess we will see you in the playoff, just saying we pretty even (on paper) will see how even come the season start.
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Firemen ED takes it deep says:
Lets see,
RB’s are def better.
QB…no question there. Sanchez is decent. Henne is better. Better tools. Doesn’t pose for GQ.
LB’s- Id say a close tie. Adding Dansby made that one a tie.
S- You got it.
CB- You got it…not for long
Line- TIE
Recievers- Marshall is better then Edwards…Bess is a weapon.
Coach- Ours lost more weight naturally.
Field- We dont share with another football team.
Equipment- I like the orange
Franchise- 17-0? Marino? Zach Thomas? Shula?…wow we won there
Fans- Our #1 fan is a fish….we won -
@O’darris
Its called Sarcasm. Its new, don’t sweat it. -
Fireman ED,
CB – not for long? HOW DO YOU FIGURE?
O’Darris, how are we even on paper? The Jets are better than the Dolphins pretty much everywhere.
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I ♥ NY says:
Come on, let’s be real, the Jets got lucky as hell last year. It will not happen again. I don’t care how many has-beens they pickup. New England is on the decline, and Buffalo just plain sucks, so the Jets just might be able to be in second place in the AFC East. Maybe they get lucky enough to get a wild card spot, but I seriously doubt it. Then Rex “some one get me a lap band so I don’t eat myself to death” Ryan will be toast.
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JESUSREVIS—-cool name brahh
I figure this… Cromatie is a big name yes, but I do not believe he is or will be better then Vontae Davis. Yes revis is better then any1 we got, but we got 3 studs in Smith Davis and dont forget about Allen. Allen just cant seem to find those INT’s
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@Brendan
I can not go with the 40 year old age limiation cause that will not fly. I seen SO many people who are in far worst shape, older, and sicker do things cause they wanted bad enough. On my way to becoming an OT so I think I know a little something about the human body, maybe just a little. Greatness in this moment can not be his to claim. He may or may not be great just the fact is he could have done some thing better for his body then this. -
Ok. Wow.
Linebackers: Bryan Thomas/Jason Taylor, David Harris, Bart Scott, Calvin Pace
OR
Charlie Anderson/Koa Misi, Channing Crowder, Karlos Dansby, Cameron Wake.
How, on God’s green Earth, could anyone conceivably call that even a draw?
WRS – Um…Braylon, Cotchery, Holmes & Keller are better than Marshall and some spare parts….I think….but I’m simply a logically thinking person.
CB – not for long? Our 3 CBs are all YOUNG. God, the homerism is so thick I can hardly breathe.
equipment – I like not having to wear teal to a manly even such as a football game.
Coach – ours is the most brilliant defensive mind in the game. You don’t shed brain weight, so we should be good there.
Field….you share with a BASEBALL team. Nice infield on the 50 yard line.
franchise – Superbowl 3? Biggest upset in the history of sports? Biggest prediction by a player ever? Chill son.
Our #1 fan is a real firefighter. We win.
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@O’darris
Congrats on the hard work. I went to Syracuse, (87-91) and walked on to the BBall team before getting into a car crash that weekend and messing up my back. Missed it my Freshman year and know how hard it is to make it, good job.
But making the comparison that Rex can’t inspire hard work since he had to opt for the lap band is kind of hard to make when he turned this defense into the #1 D after adding just B Scott and Leonard. The same people were Ranked in the 20′s in 2008. Read the quotes Jets players and former Ravens players say about Rex and you would know he gets the best out of them. -
FIREMAN ED,
Sorry, but anyone who calls Smith, Davis and Allen “studs” cannot be taken seriously.
Oh, and we just drafted Kyle Wilson, I guess you dont think he will be good, right brah?
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@96DEBACLE
Man that hurts…… Thought you was a friend, dang man thats low real low.But i’m cool, don’t sweat it
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Fans -Edge JETS
Stop the fight!
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Stephen Blaynes says:
Who the hell cares how coaches lost weight – it is argumentum ad hominem
here’s a link in case you aren’t familiar – http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem
By attacking character one distracts issues they otherwise can’t really defend. So when I see it used I think the person arguing doesn’t have much of a point. If you want to prove the Dolphins are better than the Jets than back it up with how the current teams will match up. Going to the past and using weight loss techniques as indicators of the teams approaches is really quite foolish. I commend both coaches for losing weight but it goes both ways – neither approach makes for a better team/coach/season.
For Dolphins fans who aren’t aware Eric Mangini lost a good deal of weight after his first season with the Jets (10-6 season) he didn’t use a lap band but instead went about it through working out and dieting. I wish he’d focused on football instead as his approach seemed repetitive and dry. If this lap band allows Rex to focus on coaching instead of dieting all the better – but this is conjecture – what you’ve been doing and it leads to nothing. It is only to say if you’re making up points and using lame evidence you can ostensibly prove anything.
Lets talk football not “my team is better cause’ my coach work out and went on diet and yours didn’t”
That sort of argument sounds a lot like whiny children which is pathetic to see – I can only hope the Dolphins fans who made a joke of themselves here don’t represent the entire fan-base.
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@g. JETson
Man that sucks with the car…… had my share of problems but nothing I never overcame. I can understand your comment with JETS players, and maybe your right but if they get in a tough point and start losing with the qoute be that same? play for some great coaches and that work ethic they showed me was like wow! If this 30ish year old man can run 30 110′s a week I can too (coach Pop may god bless your overactive ass) . -
O’darris-
You are flat wrong regarding your understanding of weight loss. No, not everyone, particularly those who are grossly overweight, can lose weight based on willpower alone.
Rex has never hid the fact that he is overweight and he did try numerous times to lose weight with traditional diets. It didn’t work for him. But what you and clearly the goofball writer in Miami don’t seem to understand is that lap band surgery is not a panecea, you don’t get the surgery and automatically lose 100 lbs. You also need to diet which is exactly what Ryan is doing.
Trying to make this into some morality play is assinine but sadly not surprising from the Fins faithful. Rex took steps to get himself in better shape. So did Sprano who was also a badly overweight. Good for them. Caring about how they do it borders on the stupid particularly from people who live in the plastic surgery capital of the world.
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@Stephen Blaynes
Good point, kind why I have like a 3 page post breaking down why the jets and dolphins are so close to each other here is a article if you just don’t feel like scrolling up.
http://www.miamiherald.com/2010/05/16/1631622/miami-dolphins-jets-similarly.html
Good day!!
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jetsfan0906 says:
i think its absolutely hilarious that the phish reporters and fans write several articles bashing the jets, and the jets say nothing. yet we are the smack talkers…..its just funny how stupid people in florida are(phins fans anyway)
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@AKA Jack
I’m done with that train of thought, will go on forever explaining this to every jet fan.
Talk football or read my old post or here is an idea
leave the site.I like the last one.
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@O’Darris
Rex has used his effort with weight loss as a tool to help two of his key players, Jenkins and Woody, get into shape. He started a weight loss contest with the two with the winner getting money for his fav charity.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-jets-weightchallenge
Thats coaching.
As far as how we will perform if we encounter a losing streak.
We were 4-6 and Rex rallied the team to go 5-1 down the stretch and 2-1 in the playoffs. As a rookie HC. Now that the team knows what he can do they are more motivated by him. When everyone said we didn’t belong in the playoffs Rex said his team was the best there and he said it publicly. The team loves this guy! -
SackDance99 says:
Hey, the Phins have the bragging rights. They have won the last 3 games in a row. Sure, the Phins underachieved last year and failed to make the playoffs, which is the true goal of the regular season. But, they did beat the Jets twice, even with all the yapping. Kudos.
What I think is pretty hilarious are the Chad/Sanchez comparisons. First, they’re both 6-2, which is undersized by NFL standards. Sanchez, however, has bigger hands, 10 1/2″ to 9″. Most scouts believe hand size is at least as important as height. Henne loses the size battle. Second, Henne was a second-year pro as a starter and Sanchez was a rookie. Henne should have been better statistically and he was. The real test is this season. Third, Sanchez throws to his WRs more…a lot more. So, comparing Henne and Sanchez is very difficult because of their different offenses. However, Henne, with Marshall, will be expected to go downfield more. So, who is more likely to slump? Can’t get much harder for Sanchez, he was just 2-1 in the playoffs. Going downfield and properly reading zone coverages is hard for young QBs. Ours just had a baptism of fire; yours was spoon-fed. Fourth, Henne has a stronger arm (but, as has been pointed out, Sanchez can make all the NFL throws). Just a strong arm is meaningless. Kyle Boller, J.P. Losman and JaMarcus Russell all have cannons. Fifth, Sanchez has much better mobility and mechanics. So, it should be interesting, but I would be surprised if Sanchez doesn’t end up the better QB…by a wide margin.
Oh, and Marshall is a great WR, but he’s tailor-made for Revis. The big, physical WRs are easier for Revis to cover. Plus, Henne has to throw him the ball while he’s covered by Revis. Then, let’s see how that strong arm works. But, the real weakness on the Dolphins is the front 7. Ferguson is out for 8 games, they can’t replace Porter and Taylor that easily and Philip Merling just, allegedly, battered a pregnant woman! I think Commissioner Goddell frowns on such behavior and a suspension there is likely.
Which leads to the idea that the Phins are a “class” organization and the Jets are not. Pick on Cromartie or Holmes all you want, but a 305 lb. NFL player beating up a pregnant woman?!? It doesn’t get much lower than that.
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hennes stats were actually pretty horrible for a second year qb, and if you want to talk about sanchez being helped by the run game in the playoffs lets talk about how much the phins run the ball
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alexander in Boca Raton says:
HAHA, YOU GUYS HAVE NO RESPONSE FOR THE FACT THAT WE BEAT YOU BOTH TIMES WE PLAYED LAST YEAR. DEAL WITH IT AND KEEP CHANGING THE SUBJECT, YOU LOST HEAD TO HEAD WITH US BOTH TIMES LAST YEAR. FLAT OUT NOTHING ELSE MATTERS, WE BEAT YOU HEAD UP AND YOU COULDNT DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT. FINS ARE CLEARLY THE BETTER TEAM AND PROVED IT IN HEAD TO HEAD BATTLES. BATTLES, THATS PLURAL BECAUSE YOU HAD A CHANCE TO DISPROVE THE 1ST LOSS BUT COULDNT.
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@jetsfan0906
Yes we ran the ball well but look at the last couple game of the season as our defenses fell apart henne keep the team in game and led game tieing or winning drives have not seen that out of your guy yet. Check out NFL network they can tell you the story better. Also if I remember right this is the same henne that lead a game winning drive on the in the first meeting. rest my case
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Good point, kind why I have like a 3 page post breaking down why the jets and dolphins are so close to each other here is a article if you just don’t feel like scrolling up.
– Good for you, you seem to be one of the outliers amongst Dolphin fans.
Forgive me for generalizing the fan-base you are a part of. I understand the gang mentality and internet anonymity fosters hyperbolic responses the writer of which isn’t even likely to believe, BUT that doesn’t make the blind following of some beat writer any more excusable. He couldn’t defend himself so he asked a bunch of fans to begin an aggressive dialogue then added an entirely disingenuous afterthought that the Dolphins fans should be courteous. If a Jets beat writer told me to do that for him I would sooner email his editor that they have an employee who is besmirching their publication with their unprofessional approach.
I assume most Dolphins fans here have come on his behalf and I just suggest they think seriously for a minute and consider
1) Who they are representing?
2) What they are representing?
3) Am I perpetuating a double standard I would be offended if held against me?I respect those who are mature enough to desire a healthy discussion – but a few fair comments within a storm of misdirected vitriol hardly does anything to fix this rotting carrion of a discussion. I find it necessary to point out the general tone and direction of a discussion to hopefully provide some Dolphins fans with a bit of objectivity, which it appears they sorely need.
Good day.
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Done here, pray I never come to this site again. my hope is I showed you that the jets and dolphins are pretty equal. both team has areas of strengths and weakness but overall equal. come sept. we can see who better!
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O’darris-
Are you suggesting that I, a Jets fan who has been commenting here for some time, should leave this site over you, a troll who has been here for 5 minutes?
Yea, you Fins fans really have a grasp on reality.
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alexander,
No one is changing the subject. That’s been acknowledged many times. We just choose to also point out that the Jets have dominated the past decade, and you shouldn’t have such a selective memory.
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alexander in Boca Raton
– Nice use of caps locks. I just want to clarify that you meant to put it in caps locks as I understand most people living in Boca Raton live in retirement communities, so in case you’re just an old man who didn’t realize his writing was capitalized this is a heads up.
If you did it of your own accord I have to question the caliber of thought coming from someone who can only emphasize his point through subverting intellectual convention.
Good day.
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LOL AGAIN YOU CHANGE THE SUBJECT, THE FINS PLAYED THE JETS 2 TIMES LAST YEAR. THE FINS BEAT THE JETS 2 TIMES LAST YEAR. HEAD TO HEAD, WE HAD THE BETTER TEAM. THIS YEAR IS TBD, HOWEVER ALL YOUR TALKING ABOUT BEING SO MUCH BETTER…BLAH BLAH BLAH, YOU LOST HEAD TO HEAD TWICE. AGAIN, HEAD TO HEAD, AND TWICE.
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alexander in Boca Raton
– You really are quite an anomaly. By all indications (seeming inability to use the computer) I would typically think you are a ninety year old man who moved to Boca to retire and die. But the substance of your argument is that of a five year old. Perhaps you’re visiting your grandparents or perhaps you’re a product of the Florida education system – if this were the case I sincerely pity you.
As long as you are antagonistic towards the long time posters withing this thread I don’t know how you expect to get taken seriously.
Equating others comments with: “BLAH BLAH BLAH” isn’t likely to foster any sort of discussion besides the obvious criticisms you subject yourself to.
Try think for a minute about what you post next time.
Good day.
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Alexander the Waste,
Ok, and where were you when the Jets won FIVE head-to-head matchups in a row? 8 out of 9? 13 out of 16? Those were the streaks the Jets had before your cute little 3 win run. Someone take his keyboard away before he explodes someone’s eyes with his caps lock.
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Space man spiff says:
Well im a true die hard dolphin fan. But i agree with you all its kinda childish for him to go there. This is supposed to be fun and enjoy our sundays. So for the rest of us true fans sorry hes a ass. Ans yes i do look forward to the two games this yr, We are both great teams and should show it when we play.. Go DOlfhins..
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HAHA, AGAIN, NO RESPONSE TO THE LAST 2 GAMES PLAYED HEAD TO HEAD YOU LOST
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Alexander the Waste,
At least be up-to-date in your trash talk. The Dolphins have won 3 in a row against the Jets. Please type in a Google search next time you muddy these waters with your stupidity.
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LOL YOU CAN SAY WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CHANGE THE SUBJECT. LAST YEAR THE TEAMS MET ON THE FIELD TWICE AND JETS LOST BOTH GAMES, HEAD TO HEAD, NO EXCUSES, THEY WERE LOSERS WALKING OFF THE FIELD FROM BOTH GAMES. DEAL WITH IT.
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……I don’t think Alexander the Waste is even reading my posts. I literally just helped his argument, yet he continues with his all-caps & no-brains assault. Stop it, you’re making me eyes bleed.
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So let me get this straight…Beating a division rival twice is what the goal of every NFL team is? Do you get an extra win if you do this? Is there a trophy ceremony for this accomplishment?
Moron, Winning your division, making the playoffs, winning your conference and winning the super bowl. Those are the goals that matter.
Now I see why your team choked down the stretch. They had already met their goal of beating us twice. At that point everything else was not important. That’s why the couldn’t hold on to the playoff spot. You’re right you are better than us. Oh how I wish we went 7-9 and had all that free time during the playoffs to watch Burn Notice Marathons! -
YOU KEEP CHANGING THE SUBJECT. FACT IS THAT THE FINS MET THE JETS FOR COMPETITION TWICE LAST YEAR. THE FINS WON BOTH TIMES. THE JETS LOST BOTH TIMES. THE TEAMS PLAYED HEAD TO HEAD BATTLES AND THE FINS WERE THE WINNNERS BOTH TIMES. DEAL WITH THAT.
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Space man spiff
I’m glad we have a Dolphins fan here who is able to acknowledge obvious points which one would think is a given going into a football discussion. It is disappointing fans find the need to act as if the games are won in June.
While I have tremendous confidence in my team and i put very little stock in the Dolphins three game streak I don’t feel the need to diminish your team which I believe will be the main rival of Jets in the coming years. The Pats are disappearing and the AFC East will be a two team race.
Now it would be a better rivalry if Dolphins fans weren’t so foolishly defensive.
When one is defensive of points which haven’t been called into question then it usually means they are wrong and that’s what I find common in a lot of Dolphins fans responses (on this blog and in other locations).
I believe a fan such as yourself should ask for beat writers who better represent you and don’t diminish the quality of the teams they cover, the fan-base they serve, and the publication they write for.
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Alexander =Jimmy Witchard from “King of the Hill”
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Do you think when Ireland said to Parcells, “We can get B Marshall for a couple picks.”, Parcells replied, “WHY SHOULD WE DO THAT, WE BEAT THE JETS TWICE LAST YEAR!” LOL!!!
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alexander,
Please continue to run your mouth, as you only continue to the fuel fire for retaliation. I’m not quite sure what the big kick you get out of this is though. However if you wish to be immature and petty that is your choice however I certainly feel sorry for those around you as your personality leaves a lot to be desired.
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alexander in Boca Raton
- At the risk of engaging in a personal attack I would like you to reconsider the nature of your responses and how you represent yourself – if you are capable of such reflection.
HAHA, AGAIN, NO RESPONSE TO THE LAST 2 GAMES PLAYED HEAD TO HEAD YOU LOST
FACT IS THAT THE FINS MET THE JETS FOR COMPETITION TWICE LAST YEAR. THE FINS WON BOTH TIMES. THE JETS LOST BOTH TIMES. THE TEAMS PLAYED HEAD TO HEAD BATTLES AND THE FINS WERE THE WINNNERS BOTH TIMES. DEAL WITH THAT.
YOU CAN SAY WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CHANGE THE SUBJECT. LAST YEAR THE TEAMS MET ON THE FIELD TWICE AND JETS LOST BOTH GAMES, HEAD TO HEAD, NO EXCUSES, THEY WERE LOSERS WALKING OFF THE FIELD FROM BOTH GAMES. DEAL WITH IT.
You talk a lot about changing the subject when you are the only person attempting to change the subject
- Some of us are engaging in a dialogue as mature parties attempting to represent our perspectives, instead you restate the same opinion multiple times with diminishing effectiveness.I work with autistic children and you demonstrate at least three warning signs of Aspergers syndrome. In addition you may also be suffering from a learning disability – evidenced by your inability to deal with more than one point at a time.
Fact is you are either a seriously deluded individual who is a lazy writer. Or you are suffering from some disorder – either way I recommend you write somewhere else. Hopefully somewhere with a smaller audience so your stupidity doesn’t waste anyone else’s time.
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alexander in Boca Raton says:
I ADMIT THAT I AM NOT TO SMART AND STUFF. BUT MY DOLFINS R SO GOOD YOU CAN’T LAUGH AT ME WE’RE THE BEST AND WE BEAT YOU GUYS AND WE GONNA DO IT AGAIN SO MANY TIMES AND YOU HAVE TO DEAL WITH IT LIKE I HAD TO DEAL WITH INBREEDING.
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Jests says:
g. JETson, on June 1st, 2010 at 12:32 pm Said:
Jesus, I just went to check the defensive stats last year and was stunned.
We have the #1 pass D, (153.7 ypg), the Phins were ranked #24(234.4 ypg).
We have the #8 run D, (98.6 ypg), the Phins were ranked #18, (114.7 ypg)
We ranked #1 in points allowed, (14.8 ppg), the Phins were ranked #25(24.4 ppg)
Apparently the personnel is not as even as you think or there is a big difference in the coaching skills. OH WAIT, It’s both!Jests fans, this is exactly what I’m talking about. You claim to be the next great thing, but lets examine this for a minute.
If you’re so amazing, then why did you lose to a 7-9 team, not to mention your #1 divisional foe, with the 24th and 18th pass and run defense? Seems to me like a great team like yours would beat a team like mine easily, twice. Hmmmm. But ya didn’t. Ya got owned.
Miami’s HEAVY defensive draft, all but one d-player choosen, coupled with the pieces Parcells has already put in place including the addition of Dansby and Mike Nolan, one of the greatest pure 3-4 defensive coaches ever, the defense is set to make a huge jump this year.
And on offensive, the addition of Brandon “The Beast” Marshall, will help this offense get to the next level. The franchise, Henne, will be the biggest beneficiary of Marshalls presence. He now has a prototypical number 1 NFL receiver, big, fast, great hands, impossible to tackle and is a great blocker. Lets not forget to mention he has three straight 100 catch seasons, constantly makes spectacular one-handed grabs and he also holds the NFL record for most catches in a game. The other receivers will greatly benefit from Marshall attracting the double coverage now. And the best run game in the league last year, until Ronnie Brown was lost for the season, will be back on top again this year.
If you still doubt us just think about this, last year we had one of the hardest schedules in the league, we lost our starting CB, NT, RB and QB, a quarter of our starters at the most important positions, and we still only finished 7-9 and beat you twice in the process. This year we have vastly improved and we have an easier schedule. We’re taking our rightful spot atop the AFC East this year. Fear The Fish Jests!!!
And P.S. don’t expect anyone to lay down for you to get into the playoffs this year, you’re gonna have to earn it, and make it through US!
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JETson, your make me laugh…
Jests fans, this is exactly what I’m talking about. You claim to be the next great thing, but lets examine this for a minute.
If you’re so amazing, then why did you lose to a 7-9 team, not to mention your #1 divisional foe, with the 24th and 18th pass and run defense? Seems to me like a great team like yours would beat a team like mine easily, twice. Hmmmm. But ya didn’t. Ya got owned.
Miami’s HEAVY defensive draft, all but one d-player choosen, coupled with the pieces Parcells has already put in place including the addition of Dansby and Mike Nolan, one of the greatest pure 3-4 defensive coaches ever, the defense is set to make a huge jump this year.
And on offensive, the addition of Brandon “The Beast” Marshall, will help this offense get to the next level. The franchise, Henne, will be the biggest beneficiary of Marshalls presence. He now has a prototypical number 1 NFL receiver, big, fast, great hands, impossible to tackle and is a great blocker. Lets not forget to mention he has three straight 100 catch seasons, constantly makes spectacular one-handed grabs and he also holds the NFL record for most catches in a game. The other receivers will greatly benefit from Marshall attracting the double coverage now. And the best run game in the league last year, until Ronnie Brown was lost for the season, will be back on top again this year.
If you still doubt us just think about this, last year we had one of the hardest schedules in the league, we lost our starting CB, NT, RB and QB, a quarter of our starters at the most important positions, and we still only finished 7-9 and beat you twice in the process. This year we have vastly improved and we have an easier schedule. We’re taking our rightful spot atop the AFC East this year. Fear The Fish Jests!!!
And P.S. don’t expect anyone to lay down for you to get into the playoffs this year, you’re gonna have to earn it, and make it through US!
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alexander,
Your responses are childish and immature. As I said before, I can’t quite understand what your trying to accomplish here. Big deal your ruffing up a few feathers. So what? In the end no one truly cares what you have to say because A. You are not acting like a calm, intelligent Dolphins fan and B. Most of what your saying is pure crap.
Although I’m sure you will continue to bombard this post with stupid comments keep in mind that the only one your embarassing here is yourself. Talk about taking the “CL out of Class.”
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Jests,
If you can’t offer rebuttles in a calm, civil manner then you have no buisness on this site.
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Jets (I refuse to type that idiotic fake-name),
The Jets were killed with injuries as well. You don’t get to use injuries as an excuse, not in the NFL.
The Jets lost because yearly numbers aren’t indicative to divisional success, at least not entirely. Any knowledgeable fan would know this.
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Bent says:
Stephen – It’s not just Dolphins fans that are expected to adhere to site rules. Please watch the name calling and personal attacks and don’t respond to trolls.
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alexander,
All I read when you write is CRAP CRAP CRAP (clearly he feels smarter when he uses CAPS but it actually makes him look more stupid).
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Jests
I can only presume you are a resentful Dolphins fan who became a fan when your team couldn’t get a win in the playoffs – not unlike now actually – and find the Jets to be your perfect scapegoat. If you can’t acknowledge the possibility that the Jets are competitors for the superbowl and AFC East than you have no right to expect Jets fans to consider your Dolphins any less of a Miami joke than Ricky Martin.
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“HERE” = “hear”
“JETS FAN” = “Jets fans”
“RUBBER BAND THINGY” = Lap-band surgery.
“DOLFINS” = “Dolphins”
“JETS (0-3) VS DOLFINS (3-0)” = “Jets (46-40-1) vs. Dolphins (40-46-1)
“FAT BOY WHO CHEATED ON HIS SAT’S” (leaving the fact that this isn’t even relevant aside) = “Jolly big man who is as sound & skilled a football mind as there is in the NFL”
There, I feel better.
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Why did we lose to you guys twice? Two words.. TED GINN. I have no idea what deal he made with the Devil but if you think you guys win the second game without him you’re all nuts. No goo ahead and tell me you think he is anything more than a scrub/ bust. I ve been to Phin sites and he is thought of as a bust. Yet with out his tds you lose both games. Since he is gone what magic amulet will you use to win a game where you have barely a hundred yards in offense.
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Hey Bent,
Any way we can send a search party to find out if these Phin Phans kidnapped Hank? I’m starting to get a little worried about the guy.
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The AFC is gonna once again be the most highly anticipated division to watch in 2010.
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g. JETson
Yeah, Ginn is a scrub, and he owned your team……….what?!?
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No wonder why were being inundated by Dolphins fans, Armando told them to come here but he did mention to be respectful. Unfortunately some of the Dolphins fans on here have selective memory.
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in 2007 what was the dolphin record 1-15 i actually felt sorry for you guys.
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No wonder why were being inundated by Dolphins fans, Armando told them to come here but he did mention to be respectful. Unfortunately some of the Dolphins fans on here have selective memory.
I can’t take any of the fans who blindly followed the orders of a beat writer seriously. It is pathetic on more than one level.
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“a Jets blog”
a!? No, no sir. This is THE Jets blog. Often imitated, never replicated. Get it right, Armando.
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I put those stats as a reply to another poster who thought the two teams have similar talent on D. What’s amazing is your inability to logically discern that.
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FACT: two teams let you back into the playoffs after your “intelligent coach” cried in a post-game thinking you guys were mathematically eliminated, then you HEAVILY relied on your D and run game cause you’re afraid to let your interception machine attempt to win a game for you, but when the chips were down, u guys failed the grade.
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Jests
“And look who we replaced him with, “The Beast”"
That’s a cute nickname for the Marshall, you think of it all by yourself of did you get it from one of those witty Miami beat writers.
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Just admit that every Jest fan would absolutely love to have Henne who can win games, over the interception machine known as D Sanchez…..Eat it up Jests, he’s ours!
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Jests,
I would in no way want Henne over Sanchez. They’re debatable in terms of who will be better, but I’m happy with the QB who bowls over starting NFL safeties to get a touchdown in week 3. Let me know when Henne does that.
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After posting a few times on you blog, I have removed my previous posting name of “Dolphins own the Jets” to the one you see above. I feel to be able to have decent conversations on this site having such a handle will only draw wrath so I removed it.
I would really like to be able to converse and talk about more then just who hates who the most, This is a much bigger league then just our rivalry (Phins and Jets). I believe bashing each other about players in trouble off the field has no future with either team also. Neither the Jets or Dolphins are choir boys and that’s that. So I’ll leave it at that and hope the same from you guys.
I am interested in one matter, and I sort of touched on it in an earlier post. What do you guys as Jets fans think of the direction New England is taking as far as Coaching goes?
Not having a standing D-Coordinator or O-Coordinator seems to be so unorthodox that it must have drawbacks. I know Belechick is a smart guy but damn. Having to call an offense and defense is no joke. He does have an assistant head coach. But I am uncertain of his actual connection to what is going on while the team is on the field.I personally believe both New York and Miami are very close to closing the gap that has existed for so long between the three teams. I know they can shake and bake a roster like no ones business but I have serious doubts about a team that has been decimated at the coaching level so bad….. Do you guys have any thought or have you heard anything about the way they plan to operate without the Coordinators on the field or in the upstairs booth?
Thanks for any reply or comment about my thoughts….
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Henne is a good QB. Nobody is debating that. He didn’t do anything spectacular last year. He was basically Trent Dilfer+. The RBs carried the offense and he threw check downs all day. Which is not too far from what Sanchez had to do. I’d say they’re even right now.
However, Sanchez has shown that he can hang in the pocket and make every throw there is, even if his judgment was shaky at times. The most important thing is that the bigger the game, the better Sanchez played. You can’t say that about Henne since the fins controlled their own destiny and didn’t get in.
In the AFC title game with the world watching, Sanchez had his best game of the entire season. As a rookie, that’s awfully encouraging. He’s only going to be better this year.
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Derek,
I honestly think it’s Belicheat feeding his own ego. You know, in a “Coordinators? Do you even KNOW who I am?” type of way.
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Let me see… You guys were 7-6 and had your destiny in your hands. What do you do when the chips were down…LOSE 3 STRAIGHT!
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Derek
We’d be happy to have a sensible football discussion.
I think the Pats (while still clearly the team we’re both chasing) are on the way back down to earth. The defense seems to get worse and worse as they trade off their proven commodities for picks. They go into every draft with 15 picks and after all the moves select a bunch of players but none of them really ever pan out.
I’m very happy with the Jets approach to the draft in recent years. Move up and get guys you’re sure about rather than sit tight and take a flyer on someone. It landed us Revis, Sanchez, Greene, David Harris, Dustin Keller etc. Who knows what garbage we coulda ended up with instead.
Everyone bows down to Belichick, well I guess this year we’re gonna find out how good he really is if he thinks he’s gonna run every facet of the team.
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Kn8wledge says:
One thing to say.
Mark Sanchez will be a turnover machine he holds the ball too low before delievery and gambles way too much. Maybe not all his fault could be the coaching staff but either way if they don’t control it the jets are doomed. If you need any examples ask the panthers what a good defense and a bunch of turnovers on offense can do. -
Kudos to Bent and Bassett for getting such an flux of annoying Dolphins fans.
no seriously its good to get some more page hits even if it means having to deal with the less then educated.Let Me Be Clear, some dolphins fans had some logical and thought out posts. Its the others i am referring to.
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Brendan… The problem with your teams starting QB “Bowling Over” starting safeties is he shouldn’t be doing that. Sanchez is a very important piece of the Jets puzzle and having him running around taking on safeties will eventually show him how Pat White felt in the final game of Miami season against the Steelers. He got rocked to sleep.
Smart QB’s and smart Coaches who have taught QB’s the right thing would not want their QB smashing heads with D-Backs.
There is no doubt Henne is capable. At 6’3 230 Henne is a load. He is also a very fit kid. But would end up with an earful if he did something like that unnecessarily. Going head to head with a safety is NEVER a smart move for a QB. Henne most certainly has wheels though. His roll out is a thing to watch… he and Camarillo work well together on that.
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Derek,
This is football. There was a time when QBs were more than throwing machines with a 6 square inch box that you’re allowed to hit. I am a throwback guy, so when my QB chooses a TD over a slide on the one yard line, and simply beasts a starting NFL safety (and pro-bowl safety at that), I will always applaud that decision.
For the record, Sanchez is actually the same height, and a little heavier than Henne (they’re essentially the same size).
And the coaching staff immediately got on Sanchez for that. They made a huge deal about it, it was an ongoing story during the year, and he finally submitted to the Coach’s wishes to slide feet first, but he’ll still go head-first now and then, when the team most desperately needs it. He’s a “win at all costs” guy and they literally have to physically hold him from going back on to the field after injury. I’ll take that type of guy at any position.
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yeah he got benched a little longer than he needed to be because he wasn’t listening.
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Derek
You’re right about that. Sanchez really shouldn’t be risking his health like that. It does show a passion to win that fans love though.
The play we should all be highlighting from Sanchez’s rookie year isn’t that one. It’s his TD pass to Keller in the AFC championship game. Here’s a rookie QB in the pocket facing mad pressure, steps up and throws an absolute strike for a TD just as he’s getting crushed in the face. THAT play made me turn to my dad and say wow, this dude can get the job done.
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From NFL.com, the “negatives” of Chad Henne:
Negatives: Lacks upper-body tone and does not have the ideal height you look for in a quarterback…Gets very animated making audible calls and pre-snap changes, but has just adequate judgment…Competitive, but tries to carry too much of the load and lacks the creativity to improvise…Needs to throw the ball away more, as he seems bent on forcing the ball in order to complete the play and it has resulted in several costly miscues (37 interceptions, 159 passes deflected, 20 fumbles)…Has good arm strength, but lacks a quick and explosive release…Quick to set up, but holds the ball too long and will pat it before unleashing it, lacking ideal trajectory, which has resulted in a high amount of passes getting defended on him (168-of-1,113 passes were either picked off or batted away by the opposition)…His arm strength is sometimes negated, as he takes too long to deliver the ball on deep outs…Will also underthrow when passing in the short-to-intermediate areas (better when he takes a three-step drop to throw, as he gets the ball out quicker and with better touch than when he pats the ball)…Very inconsistent on the deep-out, as he can get rattled by pressure…By holding the ball too long, he is susceptible to the costly sacks (sacked 89 times for losses of 588 yards)…Has good field smarts, making his throws into traffic befuddling…Has the strength to fire into the deep secondary, but his receivers often have to break off their routes, as he doesn’t lead them well or get the ball to the outside shoulder and away from the defender…Will step up to avoid the rush, but will tuck the ball and run too early, leaving the ball exposed, resulting in a high amount of fumbles…Needs to improve his timing, especially on deep throws, as he does not hit his deep targets in stride that much (will also rush some of his throws)…Tends to get tunnel-vision and stay on his primary target too long. Must do a better job of reading route progressions and locating other targets…Needs to square his shoulders better when trying to throw downfield on the move, as he will look awkward trying to maintain balance on the run. Compares To: JOEY HARRINGTON-Atlanta…Henne is a good mechanic with the arm strength to air it out, but he needs to do a better job of timing throws, as he tends to hold on to the ball too long. He will get “happy feet” when pressured and run too early, but he lacks good ball-security skills and that has led to 14 fumbles in 39 games. He lacks ideal trajectory on his passes, as he will short-arm often, leading to 30 interceptions and 138 other passes deflected by the opposition. Like Harrington, he is an erratic performer, who can look sensational one minute, but tries to do too much and gets caught with the ball in his hands. Any general manager daring to consider him a first-round target will soon see himself on the unemployment line. Henne has too many of Harrington’s deficiencies to be considered a franchise quarterback.
http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/chad-henne?id=252#tabs:tab-analysis
Let’s see him with more downfield passes and a lot of film to point out his weaknesses. Should be an interesting season for Henne.
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Shane L,
Thanks for the reply. I watch ever year as Belechick stacks freakin picks like Chord wood man. I know much of it is good moves and some of it is losing Franchise type players and getting compensatory picks. But do you ever get the impression that he likes juggling the damn pick as much as he likes playing the players?
Even looking at Josh McDaniels out in Denver now you can see where it all comes from. The guy was sliding up and down the draft board like a Fair ride or something. I believe his picks (McDaniels) were questionable but he did the work.
I suppose Hubris or ego could be his reasoning (as you stated)… But I can see where he can be the Hero or Villian in that situation real fast. Both Miami and New York are fully aware that as long as Brady is under center.. that team can beat any team in the league on any given day. However, just like it was with Marino and all the QB’s who teams relied on way too much… once you solve them… its all down hill. Brady does not react well to pressure right up the gut..(just like Dan) he does well when he is pressured off the edges but not up the middle.
I can see Belechick getting himself in a tight spot trying to be a one man band… and the Jets OR Miami will certainly be there to exploit any weakness they show!!
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I wonder if this is the most commented article in TJB history.
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Bent says:
We’ve had over 1,000 before.
If we didn’t delete troll posts, it might be close!
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No problem. I certainly like to see the Pats lose anytime so I really look forward to the year when the wheels finally come off. Here’s to hoping it’s this year but prob not. I could really see it being next year though since Moss will be leaving most likely. Eventually they’re gonna miss on one of these 35 yr old RBs they bring in every year and have no running game either.
Brady’s been in Cali with the family a lot this offseason so maybe he won’t be as crisp as he’s been in the past. Welker had the bad injury. They have some serious question marks but they’ve always worked around it in the past. We shall see.
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phins forever says:
as long as sanchez is the qb and teams don’t let you back in the playoffs (colts,cin).. I’m not too worried bout the jets
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It’s obvious some of the trolling grammar has rubbed off on me. That’s the third or fourth post I’ve completely botched.
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Yeah… I read that article about Henne also. I have read some about Sanchez too. One thing I have learned about the talking heads… they are not held accountable for their statements or predictions. So they can just say whaever the hell they want without anyone calling them out at the end of the season and telling them they were wrong (Or right for that matter)… I believe that both Henne and Sanchez possess all the tools to be very solid QB’s in the NFL. But just like in Manning’s situation, you may not see it up front or like Breese it may be there but take a particular blend of players to bring it to life like he did this past season. I see one issue the both Henne and Sanchez suffer from and need to get under wraps… they both forget uniform colors real quick. If there is one thing the ANY team cannot tolerrate its turnovers. As far as Henne goes this year , I am looking forward to seeing what working with the first team and taking nearly all the first team snaps in OTA’s and Camp will do for him. He took over in game 3 last year and had exactly 233 snaps with the first team under his belt… That is not enough to get anywhere near where a guy needs to be with an Offense. Getting the work and having the players he needs around him should make for a much better year.. I expect a good year for Mark as well. He has had time with his receivers and that will make a tone of difference.
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I think Sanchez has more potential, but Henne has a big arm and could be the thorn in the side of the Jets for a decade. Or he could flounder. But it will be interesting to watch these two develop and possibly duel multiple times in the coming years. If Buffalo removed its head from its rectum they could join the arms race too, but they’re Buffalo. They need more Rbs.
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I don’t get everyone bashing Sanchez, I really don’t. The guy was a rookie. How many all time great QBs had bad rookie seasons? I’m pretty sure Aikman and Elway were so bad as rookies that one of them was even benched at one point. Even Manning had more INTs than TDs his rookie year.
I think it was great that they were able to have any kind of success last year while breaking in a rookie QB. Plus he didn’t have much to work with after Cotchery until they got Braylon. Now he’s had a full offseason to work on learning the protection schemes which is what he struggled with last year. He’s got a full offseason to get comfortable with Braylon and now Holmes.
I will bet my life that there is no way in hell that he’s as bad or worse than last year. Not a chance ever. He had 12 TDs and 20 picks. If I was a betting man I’d give him 19 TDs and 14-15 picks this year. Maybe even better but I’m guessing on the safe side. Don’t forget this IS still a running team.
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yes some rookie qbs that had bad rookie years did become great.. alot of them didn’t though. think he has quite a ways to go before you start comparing to manning, elway, or aikman
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Buffalo needs to bite the bullet and blow the doors off the whole damn show and start over… from the inside out. They had a GREAT opportunity this year without a cap to at least do a little “Creative Financing” but there big move was… well I don’t know what their Big Move was…anyway.
I can see the AFC East looking very much as it did in 1985 when you had 2 teams at 11-5 (NY and NE) one at 12-4 (Miami) and then Buffalo and Indy at 2-14 and 5-11 respectively. They may not be in that order? But I feel the numbers will be good.
I feel the team to be wary of in the AFC this year in Baltimore. They had a very good free agent run and their draft6 was considered one of the better ones by people who consider such things.
It could very well come down to 10-6 not getting you NEAR the playoffs. It may take an 11-5 to get a wild card should Indy go on another 12-6 ride and Baltimore get hot, Pittsburgh always being a threat along with NE. The AFC is going to be a Hard hump all the way to November… then its a Drag Race with the team having the most Horse power and conditioning taking the lead. Dallas, New Orleans, Minnesota…???? Not sure who else in the NFC. Maybe the Giants? Perhaps Washington with Shanahan in town (he will get that team straightened out soon) But I se the AFC getting the Lombardi back this season for certain. -
Was Henne really that much better than Sanchez? Remember, he had a full year under his belt over Sanchez.
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I wasn’t comparing him to those guys, I was pointing out that just because you have a tough rookie year doesn’t mean your career is over. Sanchez has great tools. He has a very good arm, above average for sure. He has off the charts footwork which is key for any QB (that’s coming from Phil Simms who is one of the best QB analysts there is). He has excellent mobility and can make plays on the move.
Also now entering his 2nd year, he’s starting to show some serious leadership ability as well. He brought his receivers to practice with him in SoCal. He brought Brick to the White House instead of a girl or his dad. He’s showing that he has a passion for success. I’m thrilled to have him and look forward to his improvement.
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In case you Jets fans missed it, Peter King, probably the best journalist that covers the NFL(he gets his information from league scouts/coaches/gm’s), ranks the Dolphins ahead of the Jets for this seaon.
6. Miami. I probably like the young quarterback more than most do; I think Chad Henne is set for a breakout year, and I think the receiver group (Brandon Marshall, Brian Hartline, Davone Bess) will be good enough to give Miami enough at that position for the first time in years. Even though the Dolphins didn’t get a fourth receiver like the one they wanted (Demaryius Thomas) on draft day, they’ll be good enough there to contend.
The most important rookie in the league to a playoff contender, other than Ryan Mathews of the Chargers, could well be Koa Misi, the second-rounder projected to rush the passer for Miami. But as Bill Parcells has said since he came out of the womb, “They don’t sell insurance for that kind of thing.” They don’t, and Misi needs to have immediate impact to bolster the one area of the Dolphins that they need the most help — pass-rush.
7. New York Jets. Tough team to forecast, through all the glitz. The one thing I like a lot about the Jets is their ability to make tough decisions, even when the decisions seem ruthless. GM Mike Tannenbaum said goodbye to two locker room pillars, running back Thomas Jones and guard Alan Faneca, when he knew there’d be player rumblings about it. Tannenbaum has put his trust in offensive line and running-game guru Bill Callahan to keep the best running game in football rolling. There’s a lot about this team that’s a tinderbox. Will Santonio Holmes and Braylon Edwards coexist peacefully? Can LaDainian Tomlinson be happy being a middle-relief pitcher? Will Antonio Cromartie tackle, even a little? Make no mistake about it: There’s more pressure on Rex Ryan than on any other coach in football this year.
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jury still out on henne. I think he has all the skills, but who knows. I think adding marshall, if he stays healthy, is going to help him and other rec a lot.
I do know jets/fins gonna be fun to watch though!!
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Yeah that’s right, the Dolphins historically own the Jets. That’s why the Jets lead the all time series 46-40-1. Sounds like domination to me.
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Look at Pete Prisco”s of the most overated/underated players for each team. He names the next Joe Montana, QB Mark Sanchez as the most overrated player on the Jets team. See below….Prisco is a DIEHARD JETS FAN FOLKS….
New York JetsOverrated: QB Mark Sanchez. I really think he will be a good player. But let’s hold off on putting him as a top-tier quarterback. He wasn’t even the best rookie passer during the 2009 regular season.
Underrated: LB David Harris. I loved him coming out of Michigan and he has lived up to the billing. How he hasn’t been to the Pro Bowl is a mystery.
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phins
Marshall was huge for them. That should improve your offense by leaps and bounds. I can’t say I’m terribly worried because nobody has outplayed Revis lately but he’ll def be a challenge. Also, we finally dropped the dead weight in our secondary and replaced them with potentially explosive playmakers in Cro and Kyle Wilson so now we can actually cover more than 1 WR and not have to get burned by 4th stringers thanks to wastes in coverage like Drew Coleman and an injured Lito Sheppard.
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DolphinsSweep Jets,
Historically, the Jets lead the series 46-40-1. So yeah, google next time.
marino13,
I don’t know which line made me laugh more:
“Peter King, probably the best journalist that covers the NFL”
Or
“.Prisco is a DIEHARD JETS FAN FOLKS….”
Prisco has had an ax to grind with the Jets since……well, since he has been a sportswriter.
Peter King isn’t the worst writer int he world, but google his 2009 preseason power rankings. Then compare them to how the season really ended. Then tell me we should care about them now.
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time to forget the past season. yes we swept you guys and yes you got into afc champ game. time to move on. we both watched the superbowl on our tvs.
both teams are not the same as they were last year. both will be better.
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Brendan,
At this young point in both these guys careers, I cannot see where saying one is better then the other does either justice. Henne was in the NFL one year longer but did not take a snap in 2008. When he took over at game 3, he may as well been a rookie with a good handle on the playbook.
As you have already read here… QB’s take time to really develop. Sometimes they are 100% right off the line (Elway, Marino, Montana, Etc Etc) but for the most part I feel guy must develop to some degree. One thing that is so much different then it was years ago is there is so much more technology and film work that did not exist before. Defensive Coordinators can study and take away you top players… lkeaving you with whatever you can come upo with to execute. That is where a Good QB comes out to play… when its not all timing and Play action. When its line up and play head to heap football as it comes. Brett Favre in better days was a master at that as was Dan. Elway could make something out of nothing.
Time will tell if Henne and Sanchez are “New Breed” or “Old School”… whichever they are, their teams will have to suite their needs with proper personnel or either or both will founder. Particularly “New Breed” guys… They need more system stuff to keep things more organized and easy to read. An old school guy just lines up and either gives the Big Back Da ball… or lets it fly when he sees a guy that looks open… its a big difference and we have no clue what these guys will be like in 5 years.
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marino
Who exactly is saying Sanchez is a top tier QB? I haven’t heard that even from the most optimistic Jets fans. Maybe in a few years who knows, but certainly not yet. He’s a young QB with a lot of potential. He’s def not overrated cuz I haven’t heard anyone say anything positive about him lol. I’ve heard nothing but bashing (mostly from your fans).
We’ll see.
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Marino,
Just curious, what makes you think Pete Prisco is a Die Hard Jets fan?
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lmao @ dolphins sweep Jets.. why don’t you give us the last decade of Dolphin football in a nutshell. Im curious to see your spin on it. historically owned the Jets??? The Jets lead the all time head to head series, come on dude at least use Google.
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I think they’re very close right now, but that one year does play a huge role in Henne’s growth. You can’t discount that extra year when comparing them.
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HENNE VS. SANCHEZ COMPARISON FROM SCOUTS/ESPN.COM. HENNE HAS EVERYTHING THAT SANCHEZ DOESNT HAVE!!!
It has come to my attention, via the Football Today podcast when Tim Graham was a guest, that there is much debate as to who is the second-best quarterback in the AFC East behind Tom Brady. Is it Mark Sanchez or Chad Henne? Tim and I debated it briefly on the podcast, but here are my more expansive thoughts on the subject.
Personally, I would take Henne. He wins by a landslide, actually. Granted, Henne’s accomplishments in terms of leading his Miami Dolphins are not as impressive as what the New York Jets did last season. But to me, Sanchez wasn’t the force behind the Jets’ drive to the AFC Championship Game. I am not discounting Sanchez’s rookie-season accomplishments, but I just contend that quarterback was far from an area of strength for the 2009 Jets.
There is much to like about Sanchez. He has shown anticipation, can make plays with his feet and throws a catchable ball. Sanchez should develop into a fine anticipatory passer who gets the ball out on time. His accuracy will improve in the short and intermediate zones. But overall, I see Sanchez as a player who is very average physically for the quarterback position and he will struggle passing outside the numbers within this division late in the season due to weather problems. He simply doesn’t have nearly as high of a ceiling as Henne.
Henne is the prototype. He has a very good arm and can threaten the field at all levels. He is well built and shows great toughness. He can stand in the pocket in the face of a heavy rush, step into his throw and deliver the football. Henne sees the field and reads coverages better than Sanchez, which is to be expected since Henne has been in the league longer at this point.
While he might not be as light on his feet or as good of a runner as Sanchez, Henne gets the most out of every play by standing firm and keeping his eyes downfield. In contrast, Sanchez too often feels and reacts to pressure that isn’t there and hurries his throw or leaves plays on the field. Miami consistently keeps an extra pass blocker in and have some very solid peripheral pass blockers, but it would not be a shock if they were less conservative in this regard next season.
Still, they will throw a lot from heavier personnel groupings. As I expect that we will see more this year with a threat like Brandon Marshall to throw to, it will become apparent that Henne can put the football in spots that Sanchez cannot. Henne’s passes come out hot. Already a confident and decisive young quarterback, Henne will become increasingly comfortable and his toughness will further reflect upon his teammates.
Both quarterbacks have a ways to go. Both still misread coverages. Both miss open receivers that they should hit at times. They need to cut down on their interceptions. Sanchez had a few horrible games last season. While Henne wasn’t always spot on, he never seemed as though he was overwhelmed or didn’t belong.
Go back and watch Sanchez in Week 6 against the Buffalo Bills or Week 11 at the New England Patriots: It wasn’t pretty. I would like to see Sanchez improve his pocket awareness, stand in against the rush longer and require fewer protectors to keep him upright.
The only quality that Sanchez has that Henne does not is that he has led his team further in the postseason. That isn’t nearly enough for me to side with Sanchez in this argument though, especially considering the makeup of the Jets team last year.
This blog post isn’t to be critical of Sanchez. If he’s used properly, the Jets can win a lot of games with him behind center. Both signal-callers could go on to have very productive careers. The Dolphins and Jets are two of the best-coached teams in the league and I think they both feature top-5 offensive lines and strong running games. The weapons for Sanchez and Henne also have improved this offseason.
Both young quarterbacks are on the rise. But, in the end, I want Henne.
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THE QB POSITION IS THE HUGE DIFFERENCE MAKER. EDGE: DOLPHINS..
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@Marino13
You said this already, at 12:50 am. Stop beating a dead fish!
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The “prototype” is the same height as Sanchez while weighing less and having smaller hands. But yeah, long live the “prototype”.
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OVERALL records goes to the jets, however, last game b/w that us that really matter was on 2008 last game of the season, Chad Pennington took us up there and lead us to the playoffs on your TURF!!! After that game, it became chaos in Jets Land…..
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Marino,
That game meant nothing to the Jets
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New York Parking Expert…
Saying,
“Thanks, Shane, for shoving the same fact down that moron’s throat that I was going to post. Typical fish fan – completely unfettered by fact.”I would say that yes, NY has won 6 more games against Miami the Miami has won against them…. Tell me Does it sound like EITHER TEAM dominated the other with those numbers?
Seriously, your talking about a six game separation after 87 played. NEITHER team can claim that they have Dominated the other… THAT IS FACT. And I am very Unfettered by it.
As I said many posts back, we can break down winning and losing percentages and how many years each team had winning or losing seasons and I believe you will find, AS A FACT. That in the big picture… not just the Dolphins/Jets games… Miami has a superior record and history. While taking NOTHING at ALL away From New York, Even with the success Miami has had, NY has always managed to be very competitive and at some points able to eat Miami’s lunch… But taking a look through time we have done the same to you.I feel one of the reasons this rivalry still rages is BECAUSE the teams are so damn close when it comes down to it. I would like to look at other division rivalries and se if any are so close in Numbers. I doubt there are.
No disrespect to you meant here, But Dolphins fans understand just as Jet fans do… its so close it squeaks and you have the edge for now. However I will take Miami’s last 44 years over the Jets any day….. But I would have LOVED to have a QB Guarantee a SB Victory like Broadway Joe and then pull it off… that is a classic and I have stood right there in that tunnel at the OB (pre tear down for new Marlins Stadium) where Namath lifted his #1 finger a bunch of times thinking about that game.
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Did this guy watch the AFC title game with Sanchez standing in there to take a mega hit and drill the ball into Keller for the TD or fake out freeny for the deep ball on a dime to Edwards. He loses credibility when he knocks something that clearly Sanchez has shown he can do in the biggest game of his life. Do we know how Henne handles that pressure? No, not yet. But we Know Sanchez can handle the pressure because he did it 98.6 Qb rating in the playoffs and he says he can’t credit that too Sanchez. That is ridicules.
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Untrue. That 2008 game was huge. I hated Mangini and was glad Chad won it! if we had won Mangenius stays and we don’t have Rex! So thank you Phins!
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Are Fins fans still following orders from their beat writer ruler?
When you get opinions of your own get back to me.
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WHY DID MY POST GET DELETED
Name calling, inflammatory comments and trolling are not permitted on this site.
Thanks, TJB
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It appears TJB is promoting dialogue by diluting the opinions of Jets fans and allowing Fins fans to run around unchecked on this page
– Go ahead delete or prevent this comment from being posted.
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Jets Fans [namecalling deleted] says:
Well,
I guess name calling is fine when its saying something about the Dolphins huh ? I will make sure this gets back to the editor.Correct.
Name calling in terms of Jets players, fan or coaches constitutes an inflammatory comment. This is, after all, a Jets blog. If you want to post here, obey the rules.
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WHY U HATIN TJB? says:
There is nothing on this site that says you can’t say whatever you want.
We publish the site rules regularly and they have been mentioned multiple times throughout this thread.
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It’s hard to get a read on Henne because so many of his completions were to his RBs and TEs, while Sanchez’s were to his WRs and Keller, who lines up in WR formations. Henne had a higher completion percentage (but he still threw more INTs than TDs) in a much simpler offense. Sanchez was thrown to the wolves and had a rollercoaster season: great early, struggled in the middle and finished very strong.
The questions for Sanchez are whether he will cut down his mistakes (made in 4 games with 15 INTs) and can handle throwing more than 30 times per game, which he will have to do to win some games. Henne has to show that he can go downfield and he, too, has to show whether he can be successful throwing more than 30 times a game (1-5 last season). IMO, Sanchez may be readier for the simple reason that he’ll have better weapons once Holmes is done with his suspension. And, fwiw, Sanchez did have 4 completions of over 50 yards to 2 for the stronger-armed Henne (and I don’t know if his long completion to Hartline of 67 yards was YAC or not…Sanchez’s all traveled over 40 yards in the air).
Henne has Marshall, but is he ready and will he be successful throwing 150 times to him? And, if he doesn’t, will Marshall (who is recovering from hip surgery) be in his face? I think Henne has more question marks than Sanchez, no matter what the pundits/Dolphin fans say.
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cant put up my post about sack 99? cool thanks guys. good blog
Maybe we would have if it didn’t contain namecalling, a direct personal attack and an inflammatory comment about the Jets team.
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+1 for Sackdancer
good day lame Dolphin fans.
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Well,
I guess name calling is fine when its saying something about the Dolphins huh ? I will make sure this gets back to the editor.What a putz, claiming his right on another teams board.
Good job TJB taking him out. Let him cry to his editor, no self respecting individual would do anything but laugh at his complaint.
Now go easier on the Jets fans.
I have no idea what you’re talking about. The only Jets fans posts removed have been those that broke the same set of rules or ones which were responding to posts that were deleted and were therefore irrelevant. If any of your posts fell under that category, it’s nothing personal, just cleaning up the board
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I have no idea what you’re talking about. The only Jets fans posts removed have been those that broke the same set of rules or ones which were responding to posts that were deleted and were therefore irrelevant. If any of your posts fell under that category, it’s nothing personal, just cleaning up the board
– I’ve haven’t used one explicative on this site – or done any blatant name calling yet I’ve had some comments deleted for deconstructing the statements of others. Perhaps I missed an implication in one of my remarks but I’m more inclined to believe it was overzealous censuring against the very group your blog is supposedly serving. You can ignore my suggestions if you like but I’m a Jets fan in my thirties in the NY/NJ area — so if I’m pretty sure I’m demographic you are attempting to reach.
If you intend to keep your readers and members happy you would do well to treat them well.
The fins fans may be here for a few days but they’re gone afterwards – it is not in your interest to uphold some sort of moral imperative by which you punish fans of both sides. Just punish them.
Good day.
Firstly, some of your comments were automatically blocked by our spam filter, not deleted. I would then have added these to the site if they met the rules. You called one guy a schmuck, one a putz and one an “impotent individual”, which may not be explicit, but is still namecalling, which we don’t allow.
Secondly, your contention that we were only targeting Jets fans is obviously not true.
Finally, we uphold certain standards here, which earned us the partnership with SNY, over 1m pageviews in April and almost a quarter of a million comments in 5 years. Hopefully our readers are quite happy because we do not intend to let these standards slip.
Good day to you too. Your posts won’t be deleted unless you break the rules.
If anyone has a problem with how we run TJB, please email the site.
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I just looked at Henne’s longest pass to Hartline for 67 yards…it was a terribly thrown pass that Hartline stole from the DB to save an INT. Great individual play by Hartline, poor pass by Henne.
http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2009122008/2009/REG15/dolphins@titans#tab:watch
So far in their careers, Sanchez throws a better and more accurate deep ball.
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But SD, Henne’s arm is stronger! He’s a foot taller and he can cure cancer with his tears! Or something along those lines, at least that’s the feeling I get by reading the heaps of praise given to him.
Let’s be honest, if both QB’s can close the INT/TD gap, learn to use their weapons and become viable offensive threats both teams/fan bases will be thrilled.
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Brendan,
I hear you, but I still think Henne has more questions to answer. Unless he’s trying to be Chad Pennington, sooner or later he has to start going downfield and I haven’t seen him be consistently accurate with deeper passes. But, he completed a long one to Ginn “against Revis” and that makes up for everything.
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Good day to you too. Your posts won’t be deleted unless you break the rules.
It’s that sort of snide treatment of people within the fanbase you’re allegedly serving which makes me question your sincerity and the effectiveness with which you could do your job.
Wasn’t meant to be snide, we were just trying to assure you that your posts would publish, as long as there is no namecalling. Multiple posts here have praised how the comments are managed and how much better than other sites they are. At the end of the day, I’ve had to spend HOURS over the last few days monitoring these comments and trying to retain order. Totally unpaid, by the way.
I’m glad you have a deal with SNY, I’m sure it is deserved and the numbers you indicate do demonstrate your successes within the blogging spectrum of sports coverage.
I hope you’re modicum of success doesn’t get to your head such that you mistreat members of the fan-base you are serving.
We don’t aim to mistreat anyone. Name calling has never been allowed here, that’s all.
One doesn’t expect to be treated with rudeness and skepticism for attempting to defend his team on a website covering his team but I suppose you learn something new everyday.
Apologies if we came across as rude. Just trying to explain the rules (and the reason why some comments weren’t published). Nothing personal.
I’ve followed this page off and on for a while now but haven’t engaged in discussions until today and with the treatment I’ve received here today – FROM MODERATORS NO LESS – I will not hold this website in high esteem. I remain objective to the possibility that you could make me think better of this site but I end this comment by telling you that you personally have left a bad taste in my mouth – something someone covering the Jets should not do to members of the Jets fan-base. If you are satisfied with such a result go on and make excuse but I consider you re-evaluate your approach.
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I would like to thank TJB and some of it contributors for allowing me to post and getting reasonable feedback. I suppose Jet and Dolphins fans are Oil and Water for the most part. However, It is my opinion that by being civil and posting good solid football info instead of ripping each other about dumb shyt or pointing a five year old finger saying “He Done to me first Teacher” I would sort of hope we can talk about each others team and what makes them solid and what the weaknesses are… In other words, Talk football. I am not sure about you, but does it ever get boring to you listening (reading) the same old people stroking you with the same old crap? Each agreeing your team is the center of the universe and unbeatable! Does it not interest you in the slightest bit what the “Enemy” has to say? Don’t forget guys… This IS FOOTBALL… Not a UN security Counsel Meeting.( Although I fear People in this blog would be far more capable then most of those morons over there are!)
Take it for what its worth guys/gals. As much as you may want to feel or believe different. The Jets and The Dolphins are MIRROR Images of each other. And their records playing each other prove that out over the years. These two teams are really the last of the “Run First” and “Blood and Guts” Linemen playing hard and winning or losing at the point of attack hard core teams. Perhaps the Giants, KC and Baltimore fit that bill.
It was written down somewhere that “Iron Sharpens Iron” These two teams have spent many of their resources trying to cancel out what the other guy is up too… I find that fascinating and worth talking about. I hope some of you feel the same. We both hate “The Enemy” running around our safe little blogs… but that crap is getting old. It will likely not work around season time. But I cannot see why Football cannot be spoken on either teams blogs by each other in a Adult manner.
I’ll be back around… I hope to find people who wish to talk about those matters rather then argue who has the fattest coach and who may or may not have every one of their players on NFL Suspension before the season ends..
Have a nice night Jet fans……. Go Dolphins!!!!
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You mean that arm punt when the Jets went down to Miami? C’mon man that was pinpoint accuracy! For the record I agree with you. I saw a lot of Cutler-itis in Henne last year (trying to power throws through a defense) and feel his pretty decent completion percentage was somewhat fluky, which you kind of pointed out by mentioning his number of throws to RBs and TEs.
I think Sanchez got the toughest part behind him and with reliable RB options (and the hopeful continued improvement of his chemistry with Keller) I see him making a big step forward. His team will certainly be a big help and a full offseason will be a huge piece of his puzzle IMO.
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jason hoffman says:
1. the guy above who said that sanchez throws a lot more is clueless… the jets ran the ball the most out of any team in the nfl last year.
2. alexander clearly has amnesia because all he is doing is repeating the same thing over and over… buy his logic the dolphins could sweep the jets finish 2-14 and the jets could win the superbowl but the dolphins were the better team cause they beat us twice… everyone should ignore his comments.
3. i found the reason for all the trolls.
http://miamiherald.typepad.com/dolphins_in_depth/2010/05/vacation-time-is-here-for-dolphins-in-depth.html?cid=6a00d83451b26169e2013482b14f33970c#comment-6a00d83451b26169e2013482b14f33970c -
Miami Has Become Home For NFL’s Bad Boys
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/philip-merling-miami-dolphins-home-to-nfl-bad-boys-060110
So Armando, you of the month long vacations cause writing a blog is soooo stressful, you still want to stick with the Fins being full of character and the Jets being full of jerks? The Fins are leading the league in one thing, off season arrests and beating on pregnant women.
Can’t wait to see Richie Incognito, one of those home grown build through the system free agents that populate the Fins roster, lose his crap again this season or maybe Marshall quit on his team, again.
I used to have respect for the old Dolphin teams. They were arrogant SOBs but they backed up their talk. Now they, their writers and many of their fans have just become punks.
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sanchez > henne
henne cant win big ball games. he was 0-4 vs Ohio State and 1-3 in bowl games. that choking trend continued the end of last season when he couldnt lead flipper to a victory in the last 3 games, 2 of which were at home.
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Marino 13
Finally someone who knows what they are talking about on this blog, soon to be taken over by Dolphin fans! yeah baby
Peter King! LOve that man and could not agree with him anymore. I’ve hit paydirt many times with his picks and now this should be no different Jet fans take note.
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In Parcells we trust!
You jet fans know this!
You just know hes gonna make this team, super bowl bound not if but when!
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Dolphins 4 life…are you Jorge Sedano?
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Brendan
Power throws like Cutler?
Are you mad…
Cutler has throw 5, 6 interception games.
The only ball Henne is powering is the one that scored a TD on a long bomb to teddy gin. Wait then there was that riffle of a throw on a comebacker to Camarillo that set up Ronnie Brows td against the jets Monday note football. Yeah now that power football yeah but more like winning football!
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Nope jet fan in miami
Im not that person you said…
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LOL i do this debate almost daily living down here. So essentially, in your thesis about these 2 teams head to head…the advantage goes to Miami because……………………………….?
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de4yanks says:
hey jests fans. lighten up (no pun intended). face it your coach is fat and you would hate him too if he coached anywhere else. if armando wrote for the ny post or the daily news, you guys would love him, so save your hate for someone else. while no self respecting dolphin fan would argue the jests had a better year last year, the fish did beat you twice despite a roster ravaged with injuries. and miami had a much better off-season than the jests did, so i am looking forward to this year and the dolphins being a surprise contender in the afc.
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Well were should I start?
Being sweept out right and three in row would speak of advantage altogether.
But most beleive we have a better core of players and coaches and front office. Essentially what the Jets front office did was let Mangini draft the current core of young players and while managemnt choose to replace him while adding verteran players at all cost no matter what type of chemistry Mangini had gained with the players and vice a verse. Now its even worst becuase the jets are basicaly selling their soul to win now. And we all know what happens when you start adding prima donna free agents.
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de4yanks, stop hiding behind injuries, we had them too remember? (Jenkins, Washington) Way better off season than the Jets??? You paid essentially 100 million dollars for 2 players (Dansby and Marshall). While the Jets secondary bolstered to elite status. Stop bringing your hometown spin to this blog, I live with it everyday down here, I come here to get away from jokes like Salguero and Jorge Sedano
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It seems the longer one of the Fins fans posts on here, they come to their senses and realize we’re not here to talk trash.
We come here to discuss OUR team. Not other teams, as some teams in this division seem to love doing about us. I realize some guys prob troll on your blogs and articles, but I can assure you, none or at least a VERY small fraction of this site’s contributors are the same guys doing so. As if this is really gonna stop them right? lol
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What the Dolphin front office is doing is building mainly through the draft and a few stop gap free agent signings. But make no mistake this team is built through the draft. Save for Marsahll and Dansby and those are pro bowl players that will make HUGE impact.
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de4yanks
We wouldn’t love an idiot like that if he wrote for one of the papers here. We have plenty of him and don’t like any of them. We have professional writers that objectively cover our team and report team information. Armando should take notes. There’s a way to do it without coming off like a jerk.
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till we meet again Jets fans
I bid you a good nite and GODOLPHINS!
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You guys are funny, your team had to front 500K to one of your free agents because he has way to many “Baby Mommas” and you got another guy off free agency who can’t play for the first 4 games because he broke the Dope rule… And your own damn coach got wacked for 50K by the league for being a tasteless jerk and flipping off a group of hockey fans with like 200 kids in the same 2 sections there watching him do it.
All the “Your team is full of bad guys is just cheap BS finger pointing that has ZERO to do with football… If one of your team were to get in trouble (And you can count on one or three in that group having issues before its over) you would be the same way we are about our guys, we think their idiots for getting in trouble but that is life. Acting as If Your team is the Hallmark for Good behavior is a joke.We’ll just see how Henne does after working with the first string taking all the snaps and all the off season work he has done. Just having his first full preseason and camp knowing he is the Starting QB will elevate his game tremendously. He had to ride back up and not have the benefits that Sanchez got in camp last year. We shall see who comes out on top. As your own guy here said… Either of these guys still can either wash out or be a thorn in the side of the other for a long time to come. WE will also see what Miami looks like when 5 of its top players are not on IR.
I can see that here on this blog is just like some of the Miami fan blogs. You have a few good people who want to talk football and then you have a bunch of “we gotta protect out team” goof balls who want to argue every point of why my toy is better then yours. Its too bad there are some good football bloggers here just like some of our sites… but they are buried in Google clicking Meat Heads who don’t want a conversation… they just want to make excuses or explain why you suck and they don’t. As a guy who has seen a bunch of good teams built over the years in several Cities… I have seen NOTHING from either of these two teams that would lead me to believe a Superbowl Victory is in the bag. Miami is susceptible to mistakes by their younger guys and New York is susceptible to a complete internal meltdown from being overloaded with questionable personalities and 1 year wonder contract holders. Been there seen that right here in S Florida before.
I suppose trying to be civil is a dream that is best left were it was. Or where it is……
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i dont understand why this sporano losing weight the “right way” would hold any kind of water. OF COURSE sporano lost weight by working out with strength and conditioning coaches. afterall, he had more free time on his hands because he was at home while rex was coaching the jets to the afc championship game. sporano had an unfair head start. rex had to lose a lot of catching up to do.
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Jeff M. says:
Dolphins fan here. Just wanted t let you guys know that Armando and the rest of the south florida writers are a joke. They’ve been banished from the locker room and facilities for the most part by Parcells because of their devisive nature.
They now have a vendetta against Parcells and Ireland because their access is so limited. Which is why I have to laugh at some of these posts. Seriously guys, Armando is no Dolphin fan. The guy rips the team apart every chance he gets and many loyal posters have left his blog and formed their own. Armando was caught cheering at Dolphins stadium during a game in which the phins were being blown away. He hates the Dolphins but does have friendships with a couple of the players some of whom have been shipped off by Parcells.
IN NO WAY does the south florida media represent what Dolphins fans think. It’s actually quite the opposite. We intelligent Phins fans realize that the Jets have an excellent team and are not looking forward to the matchup. I hate the Jets so much that my palms sweat and my heart races every time the two teams play. I’m sure many of you feel the same way about the phins.
On another note, why would the blog editor pick some random blog entry from some know nothing beat writer to make a story out of? Parcells, Ireland, Sparano, the players, the owner, not one of them has said one word about the Jets. Why do you guys care what freaking Armando Salguero thinks? HAHAHAHA that’s too funny. That would be like Dolphin fans getting all up in arms over an Alan Hahn from newsday article on the Dolphins. Who cares what these hacks think, they’ve never even played the game!
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“building maily through the draft”, oh and spending 100 million dollars on a linebacker and WR. lol Better core of players??? like who? Please name the core players you speak of, and what they hold over ours”
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Bent says:
Derek – I don’t think anyone is holding the Jets up to be any different to the Dolphins. That comment was a direct response to Armando’s own article, which (apparently, I didn’t read it) said that the Jets are all bad characters and implied the Dolphins are squeaky clean.
I agree with you that both teams have guys with problems and arguing whose are worst isn’t really productive.
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Last question. How can anyone in here accuse another team of being classless when your team disrespected the Dolphins after both losses last season? Ever heard of being a good sport or graceful loser? How do your players get in front of the media, after they lose, and start talking about how much better they are then the team that just beat them?
Honestly now that has to worry you a little bit when it comes to your teams mental makeup. That’s not how a championship team should carry itself now is it? Win and lose with class and dignity. Otherwise you’re just another trash talking punk with no respect for anyone. You guys have a very talented team but that attitude will be your downfall in the end. Well that and maybe the billion draft picks you’ve given up to win a superbowl in the next two seasons and all of the aging talent that is signed to large contracts but I digress.
Then Rex gets in front of the media and cries? Come on guys admit it. If a Dolphins coach cried like that you would be laughing your a**es off.
The season will be fun and the Dolphins are still rebuilding, but make no mistake about it, the Jets won’t be blowing away the Dolphins for a long time. They’re a very well coached team, just like your Jets, and play tough. We will see two knock down drag out brawls this year and I see the teams splitting wins.
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Jake Long says:
It makes no difference if Sparano lost his weight from watching what he ate and exercising regularly while Rex went into the doctor’s office to put some restriction plate on his gut. Rex deserves credit for making the hard choices for his weight loss. Diet and exercise is the easy way out and real men go under the knife when they lack the basic self control of what they put into their own mouths. Rex should be praised for taking the hard and difficult path of putting an inner tube around his gullet. If you can’t have any self control, how can you expect to control others? Hmm.
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Bent, there is no article that Armando wote that implies the Phins are squeaky clean while the Jets are thugs. It’s just not true. This whole thing started because Armando Salgueuro, a reporter for one of the bajillion papers down here TWEETED a bust about Ryan being lazy by not losing the weight the old fashioned way. For some reason Jets fans really care what Armando thinks eventhough he’s not a Dolphins fan nor is he affiliated with the Dolphins in any way except for writing stories about them.
And how dare a Florida reporter have an opinion of his own. God knows New York reporters are sooo objective and never interject opinions into their blogs.
Remember people, Dolphins In Depth is a BLOG. It is not published in the paper therefore it shouldn’t be held up to the same standard of objectivity that a normal article would be. It is a blog designed to draw internet hits from fans. Of course the author is going to sensationalize his entries in order to make his blog more popular. And what better way to do that than to rip apart your customers most hated rival? Wake up already.
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>>What the Dolphin front office is doing is building mainly through the draft and a few stop gap free agent signings.
Did Ricky Williams come in the draft?
Did Richie Incognito come in the draft?
Did Brandon Marshall come in the draft?
Did Chad Pennington come in the draft?
Did Jason Ferguson come in he draft?
Did Carlos Dansby come in the draft?Hell, the fish tried hard to get Calvin Pace but he chose the Jets.
These aren’t stop gaps, they are key pieces of your team.
It’s a convenient myth that only fish fans buy that the team was built through the draft any more than the Jets. Both teams have drafted some good young players, the Jets obviously have the better of that lately, and added through FA where needed.
Maybe you should actual read the article that brought you here before you start shooting your mouth off. It was your sports writer who has been ripping on the Jets players and coaches. Frankly, most of us don’t care enough about the fish at this point to care. You guys are fixated on winning the AFC East. Our goal is a bit higher. I don’t give a damn if you beat us twice a year until the end of time as long as we keep going deep into the playoffs and you guys get to keep marveling at how wonderful your weather is.
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>>Bent, there is no article that Armando wote that implies the Phins are squeaky clean while the Jets are thugs. It’s just not true. This whole thing started because Armando Salgueuro, a reporter for one of the bajillion papers down here TWEETED a bust about Ryan being lazy by not losing the weight the old fashioned way.
No, no it didn’t. It has been going on for quite some time.
>>The Dolphins are a team with character. The Jets are a bunch of jerks.
http://www.miamiherald.com/2009/11/02/1311524/miami-dolphins-have-true-character.html
Seriously, do you guys even follow your team?
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Bent says:
Jeff M. – I believe this is the article to which that comment was responding…
http://www.miamiherald.com/2009/11/02/1311524/miami-dolphins-have-true-character.html
Jake – Rex has also been reportedly dieting and exercising in an effort to lose weight. He was medically advised to have the surgery for his own well being.
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Bent says:
“And how dare a Florida reporter have an opinion of his own. God knows New York reporters are sooo objective and never interject opinions into their blogs.
Remember people, Dolphins In Depth is a BLOG. It is not published in the paper therefore it shouldn’t be held up to the same standard of objectivity that a normal article would be. It is a blog designed to draw internet hits from fans. Of course the author is going to sensationalize his entries in order to make his blog more popular. And what better way to do that than to rip apart your customers most hated rival? Wake up already.”
Well, that’s all the post at the top of this page is, steiny has blogged his opinion. Did Armando have to call it annoying and encourage all these Dolphins fans to invade the site? Since we actually monitor the comments section here in an effort to have an interesting discussion, this has given us a ton of work to do, because (despite his request) many of the fans that have come here refused to comply with the site rules. (Note, I do not include you in that as you have been one of the many fans prepared to actually have a discussion without things getting too personal).
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F 16 says:
From time to time I’ve trolled his blog because of the absurdity of his comments. When I respond I like to start my response like this,”Hey Armando did your mom drop you on your head when you were a kid?” Depending on what time it is my comment will be deleted within a few hours. I think everybody who respondes to his blog should do the same. Go Jets
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akajack, if you’re teams goal isn’t to win the afc east you’re going to have a hell of a hard time getting in the playoffs. Division titles usually make that a tad easier but you know that already.
I agree that the whole “building through the draft” argument is stupid . It doesn’t matter either way because both ways work so I don’t see what the point of that argument is. Also The Dolphins have 266 years of experience between the guys on the training camp roster as opposed to the Jets who have 281 years of experience in total. It’s very close.
“Your sports writer has been ripping the jets players and coaches”. REALLY? Why is he “our” sports writer when there’s thousands of them down here? And no, he only ripped the Jets coach. You know the one who disrespects his opponents on national tv after he loses to them, flips off fans at charity events, and starts fights with players who are 20 years younger than him through the media. That coach, the one that you people feel is all class and doesn’t deserve to be made fun of. Holy crap, “our sports writer rips apart Sparano on a daily basis. If anything I secretly believe he’s a stinking Jets fan.
Lastly, you can keep Calvin “the face” Pace,,,,he stinks.
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F16 that’s not true, must’ve been a different blog. He wouldn’t delete you for saying that. I’ve said far worse to him than that and he just comes back at you. He is actually pretty good about peoples rights to free speech. He writes articles ripping Parcells and Ireland all ofthe time and fans bash him really good. “Dropped on your head as a baby” is a compliment compared to some of the things said.
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Bent, fair enough. You are correct and it was classless to ask fans to come here. Funny thing is, now that I checked in, I have found that the people on this site are far more intelligent than some of the morons on that site and I am having a better time discussing the teams with Jets fans.
Oh lord say it aint so! Seriously you guys are good people and run an informative blog. Dolphins in depth could learn a thing or two. Have a great night guys and good luck to your team in 2010.
Dolphins fan since 78′
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Bent says:
Jeff – I appreciate that and we understand that there are also Jets trolls on other team’s sites all the time and that often fans of those teams come here for “revenge”, but you’ll generally find we aren’t the same bunch of guys doing that. We try and keep things civil here, although it is more labor intensive, (especially when something like this happens).
If any Dolphins fans do want to talk trash (uncensored) with Jets fans, there are other sites that allow and encourage this. We try to run a family site though, especially in light of our partnership with SNY. However, we don’t make you register to comment and we haven’t turned off the comments in this article, even though we could have, so we do encourage everyone to join in.
We prefer our readers not to go onto other team’s sites and trash the author or the other fans, so I can’t endorse F-16′s comment.
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>>“Your sports writer has been ripping the jets players and coaches”. REALLY? Why is he “our” sports writer when there’s thousands of them down here? And no, he only ripped the Jets coach. You know the one who disrespects his opponents on national tv after he loses to them, flips off fans at charity events, and starts fights with players who are 20 years younger than him through the media. That coach, the one that you people feel is all class and doesn’t deserve to be made fun of. Holy crap, “our sports writer rips apart Sparano on a daily basis. If anything I secretly believe he’s a stinking Jets fan.
JeffM. If he is so inconsequential, why are you here? Just like every other Fins fan you came because of the dumb crap he wrote. So don’t pretend that he is some nobody to you. I like this blog a lot but if Basset told me to go to some Fins site because they were being mean to the Jets I think I would take a pass on that. For the most part, the Fins fans who did show up here haven’t done anything to change anyones mind. Just the opposite, most have reinforced what most of us already thought of Fins fans. I’m not sure how that’s helped you.
The one and only time Ryan flipped off anyone having anything to do with the Fins was when he went to some MMA event and was heckled and threatened and even spit at by one of those precious youngsters you are so concerned about. It wasn’t a charity event and the NFL didn’t even bother to fine him, the Jets did.
>>In an interview with the “Boomer & Carton Show” on New York radio station WFAN, Glazer said the fan confronted Ryan three times and spit on him before Ryan reacted, giving him the finger.
>>”I’ve gotta tell you guys,” Glazer said, “I’ve never seen a fan go so far over the line.”
>>The incident occurred at an MMA event in Sunrise, Fla., a suburb of Fort Lauderdale. The Jets fined Ryan $50,000; the NFL did not punish him.
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/Glazer-Ryan-confronted-three-times-by-fan-020510
In other words, a Fin fan got totally out of line and all Rex did was give him the finger. If a Fin fan did that to me 3 times, I can guarantee my reaction would have been stronger.
Yea, Rex is a confident guy and his team is feeding off it. Big deal. You guys have Sprano and Parcells, not exactly a couple of shrinking violets and the Fin players have been trash talkers forever. This idea that we are supposed to listen to all the crap that comes out of South Florida and suck it up is absurd. Hell, we even took one of your biggest mouths, Taylor, much to the chagrin of many Jets fans, and Joey Porter got cut loose. How any team with Porter and Taylor on their roster can complain about some other team yapping just goes to show that some people have zero self-awareness.
Finally, now that not only I but Bent also pointed you to an article from last fall when Armando the mouth called the Jerks a bunch of jerks are you ready to admit that you were wrong and that Armando really is nothing but a classless clown?
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OK I have to jump on this. I’ve just read 3 or 4 different stories about when Rex flipped the bird and none of them were accurate. I’m guessing the miami media brainwashed you guys into thinking he stole a kids candy, kicked a puppy and then flipped off a group of make-a-wish kids.
Jay Glazer from Fox was with him and vouched for him. It was NOT a charity event. It was a Strikeforce MMA event at the Panthers hockey arena. They showed Rex on the tron, so of course all of you started in on him, booing and yelling things. On his way out, a group of particularly obnoxious miami fans were harassing him and one of them spit on him.
He then flipped them off. In my opinion, that guy is lucky that’s all Rex did. Glazer said if that had been him he woulda nailed the guy.
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I hate PFT but this was too good to pass up.
AND Coming from Florio of all people who might be the biggest Jets hater on earth:
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/06/01/dolphins-become-the-new-poster-boys-of-bad-behavior/
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Rex starting a fight with Chrowder? The best part about that was/is how many people thought any of that was serious! They were bantering in good fun. Rex never disrespected anybody before any game. The NFL is turning into a league of cub scouts and Choir boys (See Mangini). Rex is everything football used to be! Is anyone sick of the same recycled stuff people say before and after games? “God this and god that” , “They’re a heck of a team.” Next time Rex says he’s comming to Miami to whoop some arse be thank ful he’s addressing you as real men and not saying crap like “We’re going to try our best to come out with a win.” In Rex we trust!
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Good point Reciprocity
I can def see how other fans would dislike Rex but there’s a reason why the players wanna run through walls for him. There’s a reason guys want to be around him. He’s a regular guy who loves football. Other team’s fans can complain about it but if he was their coach they’d be in love just like us.
No doubt I sometimes wish he’d tone it down a little bit but I like that he says what needs to be said and doesn’t take crap from anyone. When he says we’re coming to kick ass so be ready for us.
Why is that wrong? This is football, every team is coming to kick ass on sundays lol.
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I got to Armando’s site from a link @ P.F.T. At the sake of sounding lame doesn’t that mean I trolled someone else’s site? The link I clicked on was refering to how the Fins and Jet’s were evenly matched with Armando’s style of sarcasim. I replied with the “Dropped on your head line” and provided stats to back up my point. I refreshed my post a short time later and responses to my post were there but my post wasn’t.
Today I checked out his site [ trolling? ] ,which I did after reading in T.J.B. about the lap band article, and I again asked about his head and sure enough a short time later my post was gone.
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When compairing Henne to Sanchaz wasn’t Henne a three year starter in collage whereas Sanchez only had a year of college. And Henne was learning the Fins offence for a year before being thrown into the game? Correct me if I’m wrong but Sanchaz was thrown right into the fire with a year of college under his belt. Considering how the season played out last year I’ll take Sanchaz.
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Well, I just killed it, but this post DID have 666 comments…THE MARK OF THE BEAST.
Armando Salguero = Satan?
…nah, but he’s still annoying.
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Why are people acting as if Henne had a great season. He threw 12 TD’s and 14 Int. Yeah Sanchez threw more picks, but he also was learning on the fly as opposed to Henne having an ENTIRE season and 2 Off-Seasons to learn the offense.
So when comparing the 2, we should compare Sanchez’s 2010 season with Henne’s 2009 season, since both will represent each player in their 2nd NFL season. If you ask me, I think Sanchez will shatter Henne’s 2009 numbers in 2010.
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Yeah the Sanchez vs Henne thing is pretty much a wash right now. Henne may not have entered the season as a starter last year but he did have a whole season of being groomed and being able to learn from Chad Pennington who we here know better than anyone is a great pro and incredibly knowledgeable about the position and very willing to help younger guys. That’s why I was hoping we could get him back to help mentor Sanchez.
Sanchez was thrown in there from day 1 and who was his support? Who were his eyes on the sideline? Kellen Clemens? lol Get real.
They both had some advantages and disadvantages so there’s no way either one is better at this point. We should find another topic to discuss and re-visit this one in mid Feb after this coming season.
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Tony Sparano Jr. says:
As a dolphin fan, I have to give prop’s to the Jets. They have great fans and really turned the franchise around. Many great games have been played against each other over the years. But, with all the trash talking at the beginning of last year between Crowder and Ryan, it made the games more about bragging rights. Sure the Jets made it to the playoffs and the dolphins didn’t. Sure the Jets had one of the best defense’s in the league. B. Edwards did have a great game playing against a “rookie corner.” The Jets accomplished many noteworthy things last yr.
But, the bottom line is you lost to the dolphins twice. Which ever way you want to slant it, you still lost twice. Who cares how you lost. You still lost twice. Your trash talking coach put his foot in his mouth and you lost twice.
As far as the lap band vs hard-work weight loss thing. Who cares? Both coaches have taken a path toward a healthier lifestyle, props to both of them.
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Tony Sparano Jr.
I completely agree with you about the weight loss thing, and I think its not worth arguing about. But in fairness, the Dolphins fans came over here and beat it to death.
Sure the Dolphins won both games last year, but thats not gonna help them this year, and it really didnt help them much last year.
If you ask me, I think any knowledgable Dolphins fan knows the Jets are the better team, and bragging about what happened last year shouldnt matter.
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JesusRevis
I can’t help you with the Fins fans but, I can tell you it is definitely a two way street.
While you may be right (that is not an acknowledgment) the damn football sometimes gets a mind of it’s own, and on Any Given Sunday anything can happen.
Who would have thought Ted Ginn could do anything but, duck and cover
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Wait a minute Dying breed
and all you jetsies Armando is not the beat writer for the phins but works for the hearld and runs the Dolphins blog…does a creditable job and often will critique the Dolphins Trifecta, but as always Parcells has strict guidelines when it comes to his players and coaches talking to the media where ever he goes and as such puts team ahead of any one player.
Now he has drafted 3/4 of the secondary, the lb’s core and d line. 3/5 of the offense are also his draft picks.
You can’t do nothing about the players the Trifecta inherited, but cut the weak links and keep a few. Save for Marshall and Dansby sprinkle in a few stop gap players alot of whom Parcells brought his first year, are now mostly replaced on the roster.
Now Parcells and the trifecta inherited a lot of bad players from that 1-15 season. The following year we go 11-5 and win the division on the last game of the year beating the jetsies. And if it wasnt for that hail mary earlier that season by Farve you would have been looking at a 4 game streak by the Dolphins.
Because we whent 11-5 and won our division that year the following year (last season) Dolphins had the toughest schedule in the league and finished with a 7-9 record and were in about every game that they lost till the end save for two games.
Now Parcells and the Trifecta have had 3 drafts and will begin our 3rd season with the Tuna running the front office! We are bigger stronger and faster, and now deeper than ever before.
We are the mighty Dolphins and will seattle this on the field come September 26th opening nite at Dolphins stadium! National tv and the streak will continue 4 in a row!
Ohh by the way Jeff Darlington is the beat writer for the Dolphins and hes a good one, so dont be confused and god bless the Miami Dolphins!
GoDolphins!
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*YAWN*
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Two words you never hear, not even on the Discovery Channel, are “mighty” and “dolphin”. Oh, and nice way to leave out how the Phins won the division with the easiest schedule in the league.
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RH says:
Well, you can have Armando back any day (I believe he grew up up there). As for trading our roster for yours, well, other than starting corners, no thanks. (Not that ours won’t be better than Cromartie this year, but I’m betting Kyle Wilson will start and be much better than Cromartie.) And yeah, Kris Jenkins is a proven MAN at NT, but his loss didn’t seem to affect your defense, and Randy Starks might prove to be a playmaker at NT in Mike Nolan’s attacking scheme. What it may come down to is that Mike Nolan and his new toys may wind up with the success of last year’s Jets defense, and offensive coordinators may be better able to attack the Jets’ defense through familiarity this year… though Kyle Wilson could make that more difficult. But I think that if Nolan gets the Dolphins’ defense playing anything like last year’s Jets D, Sanchez will have a much rougher time of it than Henne did in LAST year’s games… let alone this year’s. Then again, there are fourteen other games to worry about… but I wouldn’t mind seeing the matchup repeated in the playoffs….
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Chad Henne > Dirty Sanchez.
When you have to throw to Ted Ginn, who sucked horribly, don’t expect much. Now that the fish have this Marshall guy…you will witness greatness.
Fish have:
better O-Line
better running backs
better fullback
better QB
better WR
than the NY stinkin Jets.And we stilllll beat the Jets twice last yr. I sure hope your D can carry the offense again – they’ll need it :))
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Jake Long
There were a few errors in your post so I’m gonna help you out real quick. You spelled Sanchez correctly. Other than that it was a disaster.
Better O-line? Wrong. We had 3 pro bowlers on the line last year and an all world Center in Mangold leading the way for the #1 rushing attack in football (without gimmick plays).
Better RBs? I’ll give you that one.
Better FB? Get real, Tony Richardson is as good as it gets and is a future hall of famer still playing at a high level in his 17th season. Led the way for the #1 rushing attack.
Better QB? They are even at this point. Neither of them had a good regular season but Sanchez played excellent in the AFC title game while your guy watched from home.
Better WR? Marshall is the best WR of the 2 teams yes. As a group, our WRs are better. Edwards is a playmaker, Holmes is a recent SB MVP, and Cotchery catches everything in sight. Bess and Camarillo? Not bad players but gimme a break.
I’d add the defense but do I really need to? lol
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Shanee
Better O-line no, that even.
RB check Dolphins
QB check Dolphins
Wide outs check-with Marshall better (he had more td’s then all of Dolphins wr combined) And we still beat you jetsies twice. Camarillo has a great pair of hands and catches everything. Hartline had a good rookie year and will be better under the Parcells conditioning program.
Defense even-jetsies numbers sky rocketed and for good reason. Lap band Ryan’s blitzing d and Revis, for all the blitzing your team did they were no were near the top in sacks or had a sack leader.
And that my friend is how you scare the living day lights out of opposing QB’s.
Save for Revis there really is nothing to fear about you guys at all. Manning figured your D in less than two quarters, your blitz throw evrything but the kitchen sink didnt not work and now you signed an 80 year old man to be the sack master of your d? Bhahhhhhhhhh
Note gonna do it, not gonna do it, lol
Ohh and by the way you say gimmick’ well we gimmick the hell out of your defense UP AND DOWN the field.
Dont forget your club runs gimmicks too shame on you. Course the Wildcat is not a gimmick and your team knew it was coming and you and none of your winded d could not stop them.
Good nite mighty Dolphins nation!God Bless the Miami Dolphins
GoDolphins!
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PhinPhan22 says:
Haha… Mr. Armando made a factual statement in regards to the weight loss approach by both coaches, so what is all the fuss about? And last time I checked the DOLPHINS have BEATEN the NY Football Jints 3 times in a roll..Thats 3 times in a roll.. let that marinate for a while..
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“Jints”? That’s a slang name for the Giants (spelt “Gints”). That’s even worse than the “Jests”.
3 times in a row?
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Bent says:
PP22 – All this “fuss” has nothing to do with the lapband comment. It rubbed a few people up the wrong way, but really wasn’t that big of a deal.
The reason this conversation has gone on for so long is that he told readers of his blog to come here and (once we dealt with the troublemakers) it developed into a discussion between two rival sets of fans about their respective teams, one which we have tried our best to keep civil.
Note – when the story falls off the front page of this blog, comments will be closed, but fans of other teams are still welcome to post on TJB, as long as they obey our site rules, which include:
No name calling
No personal attacks
No offensive comments
No inflammatory comments (including just coming here to bash the team, it’s fans or this website and having a screen name that does the same, such as JetsSuck23 or RexisFat)
Stay on topic (ie we shouldn’t need to hear how great another team is in a discussion about one of our players)
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Jim Shockley says:
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All beware – the offensive juggernaut that is Miami is coming to town ! Sounds to me like someone’s drinking the famous tropical cool-aid of South Florida ! We all give Miami their due for beating us twice last year, but seriously, was it their unstoppable offense or was it a few great plays and a rare down game for Westhoff and Co. ??
Drink your cool-aid friend, my money’s on the league’s number one “D” and the boatload of new toys for Schotty & The Sanchize….Go Green.
And who wears teal ? Seriously ?
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DLT says:
The Jets will be solid but I can’t see them going to the Superbowl. I think the Pats are passed their prime. the Dolphins are still another year away.
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The Dolphins are an offensvie juggernaut now? You Dolphins fans are truly dilussional. You added a good WR, great for you, but do you know much about him? He is a glorified possession receiver and matched up against Revis you shouldnt expect much, and thats not being a homer, its me being a knowledgable football fan. Revis is an awful matchup for Marshall.
Dolphins4Life,
your post was one of the dumbest things I have ever subjected myself to. The defense is even? Really? Go check the numbers on that, because the Dolphins were below average while the Jets were BY FAR the best in the NFL.
The Wild cat may have beat us the first time, but we adjusted to it and absolutely shut it down in the 2nd meeting. Go check the stats from that game, sure you guys won and I wont take anything away from you, a wins a win, but it wasnt because of your wildcat or your offense, it was because of special teams. Your offense was pathetic in that game, actually.
The Jets are the better team, and its obvious, and it will be proven this season. At which point im sure none of you loud talking Dolphins fans will be showing up on this message board.
And the WR’s are not close either, the Jets group is better, by far.
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jennyrevis
the only dum thing i hear are you flaps or fingers if you will. And for all your Defense rankings the Jets didnt win a thing and truth be told you could not even generate a decent pass rush with out throwing everything but the kitchen sink. very sad and now that manning has set the stage on how to beat your blitzing d.
Ohh wait Henne already did that on a Monday night game-=rememebr reivas riva. You got burnt and beat up all over the field deal with it jestsiesBy far the best in the NFL? really how did you guys do in sacks? not even near the top. I mean you forced alot of three and outs but you had to bring everyone on d in hopes that the ball would not make it out of the qb’s hand. That got old and teams figured you out.
But ther dumbest thing I hear from you is that Marshall is a glorfied possesion reciever. hahahahahaha!
Revis island is going to become Marshall Island and hes not Moss, Marshall is gonna bench press Revis back into the end zone, Marshall is gonna mop up your pathetic but.
Your team for all its hype and fan glorification has not won a thing and wont for a long time.And I will be back on this message board whenwe meet and whip the jetsies or trounch them. Back here opening night Sept 26the
Late im out!
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Sooooo is the Dolphins go-to insult to just attach any female name to a Jets posters’ name? Donna4life? That’s funny?
D4L,
Allow me to educate you a bit on the Rex Ryan Blitz. He sends “everything but the kitchen sink” quite often. I will give you that, but it’s by design. When you have the best player in football at CB, one who has better ball skills than many WRs, you want the ball going towards him. So the jets use overload blitzes to funnel passes in Revis’ direction. So to you, it looks like Rex sending the house out of desperation. To an educated fan, it’s a control chaos that is a beautiful thing to watch. When you know there’s a 75% chance the QB will have to bailout and throw to a certain side of the field, it increases you chances for turnovers and broken up passes.
So sacks is how you rate a defense? What about QB pressures/knockdowns? No one had more QB pressures last year than the Jets. Out of the top 10 teams in sacks last year, only four made the playoffs. So you have fun with your sacks (16 of which you have to replace with no-names).
Teams figured out the defense? Um….the defense got better as the year went on. Not sure where you figure that other teams figured it out, it was much more that the team just didn’t have the coverage men that it needed. Now it does.
Marshall is not stronger than Andre Johnson. Andre Johnson got beasted by Revis. Marshall can’t out-muscle Revis, can’t out-jump him and can’t lose him with a route. The reason people call Marshall a glorified possession receiver is because his yards per catch is so low. He’s not a big-play receiver. He needs tons of looks/targets to be effective. So yes, there is merit to what JesusRevis said.
And please don’t lose the address to this site, we’d love to hear your thoughts after Smack City is brought to the shores of Southern Florida.
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Do these idiots really think they’re even on the O-line and on Defense? This is what I mean. We try to have a reasonable discussion and all they do is talk trash.
The Jets offensive line is widely regarded as the best in the NFL. I can’t name anyone on your line besides Long, and my good friend John who is the biggest fins fan I know has told me that he hasn’t even lived up to the hype.
The defense? That’s so stupid I don’t even know where to begin. I’ll spare you all the stats cuz it would just embarrass you. You think cuz you signed Dansby you’re as good as us on D now? He wouldn’t even start on our team at ILB. David Harris is a top 3 ILB in the league and was robbed blind of a pro bowl spot. Scott talks a lot but he’s a real good player. We had the best secondary in the league last year almost entirely cuz of Revis. Now we added a 26 yr old CB who excels in man coverage which is our scheme, and drafted a CB to play NICKEL who many had as the #7 overall pick which we got at #29.
Not to mention we softened up against the run when Jenkins went down last year. Assuming he’s healthy, that’s like adding another big time player who largely missed being a part of the best D in the league last year.
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Bent says:
Guys – Please don’t call each other’s posts dumb.
No namecalling, even if it’s in response to someone else.
Like Shane says all we want is a reasonable discussion, so please don’t attack each other even if you completely disagree with what was said.
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Am I allowed to insult their insult? Because the level of humor we’ve seen is pre-kindergarten, at best.
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mole57 says:
Bent, Just lock the thread already.
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Bent
Whenever you wanna close off commenting is cool. HOWEVER, you are NOT to close it unless a pro-Jets comment is the last one showing lol. If it isn’t, take care of it yourself then shut er down.
We have to get the last word in our own blog.
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haha WHAT WAS THAT!?
Btw, you’re predicting that the Jets are going to get swept by the Dolphins last year? Bold prediction, my friend…bold indeed.
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Brendan
Like I said for all your teams defensive rankings you won nothing. And sacks are important especially in the playoffs. Not the measuring stick but neither was anything your d has done again jets have won nothing.
I know what kind of d rex lap band runs and I said the reason you run this throw everything but the kitchen sink is becauce you have a coach like ryan and revis, pay attention.
Ummm yah the Colts in the playoffs and us, the Dolphins ie monday night last year when we mopped up your so called vaunted d up and down that field. And Henne lead a late late late fourther quarter comeback. On that drive alone you see how MONEY Chand Henne was and showed us all his potenial in the world.
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Sorry here you go check it out go to fourth quarter last drive…check it guys Chad Henne made all the throws that game and that last drive was awsome!
GoDolphins!
http://espn.go.com/nfl/mnf go to week fiveAlso brent
When the jets got on a roll in the playoffs You had the Colts and Manning realing for a quarter and half till he figured out your, “throw everything” at Manning defense. But he did and you guys got burnt! -
Its been fun and I agree to keep it civil.
Have a good Day NY city and GoDolphins!
Catch up to you guys later and if your ever bored come to the sun sentinal or armandos dolphins blog, peace out.
God bless america!
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Bent says:
What actually happened was that Bart Scott got hurt so they had to use their fifth safety as an inside linebacker and two CBs also got hurt, so the Jets had to give two guys who usually only played 15 or so snaps a game for almost the whole game. Manning understandably was able to pick them apart.
They should have better depth this year.
As for the Henne drive, it was indisputably clutch that he hit those two third down conversions, but he was only 2-4 on the drive.
I’d rather not relive it, but thanks all the same.
If anything, Sanchez was just as impressive in leading the Jets on a similar late drive in the game in week 8. That drive was only derailed when Faneca (now gone) blew a block and put them in a 2nd and 22 hole. Henne was not impressive at all in that game.
Sanchez actually had two of his better games against the Dolphins, but overall had a bad year, but it ended on an upswing, so Jets fans are reasonably optimistic. Henne looked okay, but we’ll see who makes the progress this year.
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Bent says:
“Special shout out to the Lakers, hope they win in six.”
Now you really are banned.
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Haha now you are really banned.
I’m glad someone else noticed that Sanchez had 2 of his better games against Miami. Severely outplayed Henne in the 2nd game.
Also that final drive on MNF, Henne made a couple good throws but the wildcat was what got them down the field and scored the TD.
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Bent says:
Okay, closing this thread now.
Whatever the reason for the influx of Dolphins fans, it’s nice to see we were eventually able to have an interesting discussion and that some of the Miami fans were kind enough to acknowledge that we aren’t all bad.
This argument can only be settled on the field, so we look forward to that.
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i would just like to say when was the last time miami won a playoff game?
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madbacker12
I believe that would be in 2000 (aka 10 years ago). 1 year after they suffered the worst loss in NFL playoff history, 62-7 at the hands of the Jaguars.
david65 
With a name like that its hard to believe he’s from Miami.
Oh wait……