He Can Cover Everything, Except Maybe the ‘DBs Night Out’ Check
Feel like being sick this morning? No? Too bad!!
Manish Mehta of the Daily News checks the contracts and lists out who in the Jets defensive backfield is on the books to take home more higher salaries than Darrelle Revis.
Here’s the breakdown of the Jets defensive backs scheduled to earn more than Revis in 2010:
Antonio Cromartie: $1.7 million
Jim Leonhard: $1.625 million
Brodney Pool: $1.3 million
Eric Smith: $1.176 million
Drew Coleman: $1.175 million
James Ihedigbo: $1.101 millionWhen you factor in that first-round pick Kyle Wilson will certainly earn more than $1 million (signing bonus + base salary) when he signs his rookie deal, Revis is scheduled to be the eighth highest paid player on the Jets secondary this season.
Of course, every contract has high & low years, so we’re aware that it’s more about the total deal. And it’s not always going to be equitable when you look at it in a one-year snapshot, but it’s certainly interesting to consider that Drew Coleman on a RFA deal is in line for more dough than Revis …
54 Responses to He Can Cover Everything, Except Maybe the ‘DBs Night Out’ Check
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1. How much more did he really get? I remember the main issue in his rookie contract was the battle between 5 or 6 year contract. I believe the Jets were insisting on the 6th year.
2. Regardless of how you look at it- the fact is that his paychecks this year will be less than Drew Coleman. So if you’re going to say “well one year he was the highest paid CB on the team” I’ll respond by saying he should always be the highest paid player on the team.
This happens so often in the NFL I don’t understand why people get so hung up on it. If Chris Baker can threaten to hold out cause he’s approaching a down year in his contract how can you expect the best CB in the league not to threaten? His agent would have to be one of the worst agents in the league to not advise him to threaten like this. Unless of course hes worried what the fans think- which he shouldnt.
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Because he entered into a contract?
Contracts are a binding agreement. It’s not “oh, this doesn’t live up to my standards now, so give me what I want”. If Revis wants a new deal he’s going to have to give up something (up front money?) that he doesn’t want to. Otherwise, with literally zero leverage, he can just shut up and live out his deal.
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This is the NFL. Where were you when Lito got cut? Were you telling me the jets broke a binding agreement then?
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Bent says: It’s a good point, but (nitpicking) Lito isn’t a great example, because he basically had an extension in place that had not actually started yet and I’m sure he was aware when he signed that he’d only be able to collect that extension if he lived up to it.
Substitute someone like Faneca, Kendall, Baker or Favre and maybe you have a point.
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Ok, let’s go through every transaction ever.
What I’m saying is, when you have NOOOOOOO leverage whatsoever, you either have to give up something you want to get a new contract, or shut up and play with the one you have.
Revis has no leverage. If he holds out his last years become non-guaranteed. He wants all this upfront money and it’s just not going to happen with a possible lockout on the horizon.
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Contracts are not binding agreements in the NFL. A player can be cut at any time, and unlike baseball or basketball, the team owes him nothing. Only guaranteed money means anything.
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Bent says:
The total amount of money in the contract, assuming he met the conditions for void/buyback was way higher than his draft position and actually annoyed a few teams, so this was about more than just that extra year, the Jets had to give up a lot of extra money (albeit conditionally).
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Yes but this was added when he accepted the 6 year contract offer. Everyone around Revis was being slotted for 5 years yet the Jets were insisting on 6. Therefore he negotiated more money to accept that 6 years. I always thought the jets were dumb for doing this because how often do players ever live out their rookie contract?
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Bent says:
I don’t think it was done with having him play his contract out in mind. What it does give them is the leverage of still controlling his rights at a reasonable level whether he turns out to be good, great or elite.
The fact he has outplayed the maximum value of his contract makes renegotiation a must. This is the rocky part, but at least they still have control of his rights and his contract is not untradeable, so they have a number of options.
I guess it was never going to be easy (especially with the CBA and whatnot). Hopefully, they’ll figure something out.
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Revis agreed to the deal knowing this year was only paying about $1MM, but he was ok with that because of how much he was paid in the first years, and how much he is promised to earn in the next three.
At this point, his only choices are to either: Honor the Contract He Signed, or Extort Money From the Team That Has Already Made Him A Milliionaire.-
Any particular reason that last sentence has all the words starting with caps. does it spell something?
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If you think a CB should always be the highest paid player on the team then I don’t think you should ever be a GM (nor should I, but that’s neither here nor there). The CB position is not one of the most important in the NFL and should never be the highest paid position on your team, unless your name is Al Davis.
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You’re right in theory- they never should. But when your CB happens to be the best player on the defense and in his prime- and your franchise QB is only in the second year of his rookie deal then its possible for your CB to the highest paid player.
Before Revis- I always felt Cb was the most overrated position on the defense but after watching him play last season I was convinced otherwise. I thought the team would fall apart without Jenkins but it didnt.
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My bad jumping on Manish before I read the damn article. He does reference his previous earnings. I should stfu until I read the entire article I guess.
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Happy Birthday Bassett. Best wishes to you, your wife and the little guy. Hope all are doing well.
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thanks fellas!! we are all doing well, here’s a shot of him from a few weeks ago:
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4097/4817367805_9b4795806e_b.jpg
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i love the new site look, but how about some css underlining over links? yea, i know, i’m just being picky, but links deserve some type of mouseover, no?
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I was very disappointed in this — very unlike Manish. I guess the Daily News sensationalism has won out –
I can’t believe nowhere in that report does he mention that Revis has already banked over $25 million while Poole, Smith, Coleman and Ihedigbo haven’t made that COMBINED.
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Do any of those players deserve to make that combined? Only one of have them has been considered a starting NFL player in his career, Brodney Poole.
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R,
I just clicked on the link because I was going to post under his article, but in the article he does reference the fact that Revis has made much more in his first three seasons, Bassett just cut and pasted it out of there.
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Bent says:
Fair enough.
R – he’s banked $15m in his first three years. FWIW, Asomugha banked $18m in his first five.
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What did Aso bank in his first four?
Because according to this- Revis is gonna bank 16 mil in his first four.
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Bent says:
8.5m (approximately).
If Revis does earn 1.0m this year and 5m next year, he’ll still hold the lead through five years at 21m-18m.
Then he’s scheduled to earn 15m in his sixth year, which is where Asomugha’s big contract kicked in.
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Yeah, a little typo there — still, I don’t think those four guys combined made that much.
My point is that he makes it seem like the Jets are ripping Revis off when they have actually paid him quite fairly for the first three years of the contract that HE agreed to signed. You say that maybe the Jets even overpaid him his rookie year in the sense that you can make the argument that almost every 1st round pick is overpaid compared to players who have been in the league for years and have proven their worth.
Look, I want him locked up to a long-term contract as much as everyone else. But let’s not make it seem like he was a walk-on playing for minimum for the past 3 seasons and is now looking to cash in.
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Okay, this nested comments thing is messing me up — sorry Bent, didn’t see your comments below.
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Bent says:
This is why I was against the nested comments thing. Still, it seems popular. We’ll get used to it!
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Yeah, I remember saying earlier this week (pre-makeover) that I liked the old style better because it had the most recent comments all at the bottom (and addressing your comment to the intended person seemed to work fine). But I’m adjusting to this and it doesn’t seem to be as bad as I originally suspected.
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It does make mention of what he has made is his career.
“Although he earned $15 million in the first three years of his rookie contract, it’s obvious that the two-time Pro Bowler was well worth that price.”
Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/jets/2010/07/seven-jets-defensive-backs-sch.html#ixzz0v50DrGWM
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Bent says:
Here’s a list of guys in the Jets secondary that have received $11m of guaranteed money over the last three years like Revis:
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Bent says:
I thought so too.
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Bent says:
No, I did consider Rhodes (who got $13m in guarantees over the last few years) but was careful to say that it was “guys in the Jets secondary” of which Rhodes is no longer one.
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Bent says:
Only Leonhard has a higher cap number this year, which underlines the point that Revis has had plenty of money upfront. Note how far below $5m (his salary next year) all those numbers are. Will any of them earn $6m over the next two years like Revis? Nope.
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This contract issue is a huge matter or pride. Not about who is the richest man on the secondary or who will be the richest man over his career in the secondary.
He wants to be treated like the best CB in the league which means being the highest paid CB in the league right now while hes considered the best CB in the league. Who knows where the hell he’ll be ranked three years from now or even one year from now. He just had one of the best seasons for a CB so of course hes going to wanted to be paid like one.
People are quick to slam manish’s point without really understanding the point.
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Bent says:
Yeah, I take Manish’s point and I don’t begrudge Revis wanting more money. I just hope he will eventually sign a reasonable deal and that he has taken into account the difficulties faced by the Jets and doesn’t view their inability to come to an agreement as some sort of slight.
He can grumble all he wants as long as it won’t affect anything on the field, as far as I’m concerned.
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You also have to take into account crazy Al Davis gave Aso a crazy contract that is completely out of line with the rest of the CB contracts in the league. You cannot use Al Davis’ madness as the measuring stick.
There are also many road blocks in the way of coming up with a reasonable deal at this point with the lack of a CBA and rules that go along with that.
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Aso also finished his entire rookie deal before getting that crazy contract.
I believe if you average out his money earned over the course of his career he comes in at like $10 million or $11 million. So Revis taking $13 million 1/2way into his rookie deal would make him the most compensated CB ever at the end of his new deal (to that point of any CBs career).
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His rookie contract was frontloaded, he refused to sign until he got all his money upfront. And he’s going to the same thing again.
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Give Leon The Damn Ball (new name pending) says:
the binding contract argument is weak when used for either side. revis has zero leverage here. none. no way he risks the $20 million he has left by sitting out. he needs to accept the fact that the ball is in the jets court for the next 3 years. if revis wants a new contract it will not be completely on his terms.
pay Harris first. his contact/production ratio is borderline criminal. plus he hasn’t been a douche like revis.
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Final points-
1. Honor your contract? – Technically Revis is allowed to hold out on his contract if hes willing to lose out on future guaranteed money. If that provision is written in the contract then there he is not breaching his contract by holding out.
2. I agree that Revis doesn’t have great leverage because he has 3 more years left, with a decent amount of guaranteed money left. BUT not because of what he has already made in the contract because hes earned every bit of that contract- has he not? Two probowl seasons?
3. While i sound like I’m Pro Revis- Anti Jet, I only sound like this here on TJB because people are so quick to jump on the player here. It seems to be the general tone of this blog, im not complaining just observing. You might catch me arguing with people outside the TJB blogosphere defending the Jets.
4. I’m going to get breakfast. Enjoy your day.
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I think we all agree he deserves a big deal. The problem is that he’s making demands based on an unreasonable bar set by a senile old man and it’s simply a difficult time to extend players long term.
Bottom line is the Jets hold all the cards and if Revis continues to make unreasonable demands they can simply call his bluff and force him to play out his current deal. If he holds out, he loses a year towards free agency so he’d basically be in the same exact spot next season after holding out.
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Bent says:
Yeah, similarly, some of us may seem anti-Revis because we’re just making points that put across the management side, but that’s just a reaction to the fact the media seems focused on Revis’ POV. I don’t feel like I’m on either side, I’m just trying to understand both sides.
There are two sides to this, and between us all the TJB readers have the bases covered.
I think we all want the same thing. Revis here, long term, with a deal that doesn’t mess up the cap.
And I think we all agree that Manish hasn’t fallen victim to sensationalism either, this was just a nugget that underlined the fact that Revis might expect to earn more this year.
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These are facts that are totally meaningless. Revis could get a new deal to be making 12, 13, or 14 million this year. The problem is that he wants 16 or 17 million (to equal or exceed Asomugha). That’s the issue. What Coleman or Poole make is totally irrelevant. Mehta certainly knows this but he’s got a column to fill every day.
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g.JETSon says:
For the record CB is normally not the most important position even on the defense. However in our D CB is the most important and because of his skill set Revis is even more important. Says who? Rex, who has called him the best defensive player in the league. What does the best defenders make? Because of his skill set and the defensive scheme he plays in you can’t pay him like the normal CB. Great players get us a SB. When the Ravens went was it because of Ray Lewis or the QB? Would you rather have Haynesworth or Revis?
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Super misleading.
Ask any of the others if their contract also featured 11 million guaranteed.
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BigBadBob says:
Could there be a possibility that all of this is being done to ad to the drama of hardknocks? Get the deal done while hardknocks is filming? Not all of it, just the important part, the signing of the contract. HBO has even thrown their 2 cents in on the situation. Why would they say something negative regarding a team that is going to open the doors for them to show the world. It seems like bad business prior to them filming. If they had said it after they filmed it would make more sense.
This is borderline dishonest reporting. As Bassett pointed out this is just a down year in a long term deal. Manish knows that but writes this to get a rise out of people.
Revis held out for his current deal and got much more than his draft position normally gets. Now that he’s in the first “down year” of the contract structure he’s going to demand Aso money?
I have zero sympathy for Revis. Love the guy, but his contract dispute is silly to me.