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Jets 2010 Roster Prediction: Part Two

by Bassett on September 2nd, 2010 at 5:20 pm

New York Jets Hard Knocks Depth Chart

As we head into roster cutdowns through the next few days, we’ll take a closer look at what — we imagine — the final roster could look like. Here’s a swing at the direction I expect the roster to be come final cut downs.  I’ve left one roster spot available for a waiver wire pickup from another team (likely a DL, LB or CB), and I’ve not counted Santonio Holmes toward the total count since that won’t happen until Week Five. On another note, I have optimistically counted Darrelle Revis as a member of the team.

Hope this helps, let us know what you think in the comments.

SECONDARY

Pos # Name Height Weight Age Years
CB 1 24 Revis, D (inactive?) 5-11 200 25 4
CB 2 31 Cromartie, A 6-2 210 26 5
CB 3 20 Wilson, K 5-10 190 23 R
CB 4 26 Lowery, D 5-11 198 24 3
CB 5 30 Coleman, D 5-9 180 27 5
CB 6 34 Cole, M 5-10 192 26 2
S 1 36 Leonhard, J 5-8 188 27 6
S 2 22 Pool, B 6-2 214 26 6
S 3 33 Smith, E 6-1 207 27 5
S 4 44 Ihedigbo, J 6-1 214 26 4

Notes: No Revis, no changes as far as I can see.  With Revis still in cryogenic freeze, Coleman makes the team.  If Revis was to come back into the fold before the season starts, I’d imagine Coleman (though he’s a teacher’s pet since Jeff Weeks coached him at some point as an amateur) might be the one on thin ice … if there’s any monetary benefit to cutting him (5 years) versus Cole (2 years) and and then bringing him back once the season starts – I could see the Jets doing that.

While some are really cheering for Donavan Warren to make this team, he’s not shown enough and been injured, so there’s really no shot of him making the active roster, more than likely, he’ll be a squadder unless someone else picks him up first.

LINEBACKERS

Pos # Name Height Weight Age Years
ILB 1 52 Harris, D 6-2 250 26 4
ILB 2 57 Scott, B 6-2 242 29 9
ILB 3 54 Cummings, K 6-3 250 24 2
ILB 4 56 Laury, L 6-2 242 28 5
OLB 1 97 Pace, C 6-4 265 29 8
OLB 2 58 Thomas, B 6-4 260 31 9
OLB 3 99 Taylor, J 6-6 250 35 14
OLB 4 55 Westerman, J 6-3 255 25 2


Notes:
No changes here. Rickey Foley is a nice idea, but I think it’s too little too late, and when you count the news that Calvin Pace might be back sooner as opposed to later, then there’s no need to have a roster spot for Foley … the Jets just need to hold the fort until the help arrives.  Cory Reamer is a player the team seems to like, but who can’t be afforded a full roster spot at this time.  Lance Laury might be on the bubble, but I think his special teams abilities could well keep him on the roster for the Jets.  With all that said, I get the sense that the Jets wish they had one more legit fill in options depth-wise at linebacker .. so should anyone float to the waiver wire that they’ve had their eye on in the next few days, that might change quickly.

DEFENSIVE LINE

Pos # Name Height Weight Age Years
RDE 1 92 Ellis, S 6-5 290 33 11
DT 1 77 Jenkins, K 6-4 360 31 10
LDE 1 70 DeVito, M 6-3 305 26 4
DL 2 91 Pouha, S 6-3 325 31 6
DL 3 50 Gholston, V 6-3 260 24 3
DL 4 93 Kroul, M 6-3 300 24 1
DL 5 61 Steinkuhler 6-3 290 24 1


Notes:
The removal of Rodrique Wright only showed that the team has more faith in their project linemen from last year, Matt Kroul and Ty Steinkuhler, than the former highly touted NFL prospect.  I still think that if the Jets find a more satisfactory hybrid 4-3 tackle or 3-4 end on the waiver wire, they’ll release one of these guys (likely Stein) to make room.

OFFENSIVE LINE

Pos # Name Height Weight Age Years
LT 1 60 Ferguson, D 6-6 310 26 5
LG 1 68 Slauson, M 6-5 315 24 2
C 1 74 Mangold, N 6-4 307 26 5
RG 1 65 Moore, B 6-3 305 30 8
RT 1 67 Woody, D 6-3 327 32 12
OL 2 75 Turner, R 6-4 308 25 3
OL 2 78 Hunter, W 6-5 318 29 7
OL 3 62 Ducasse, V 6-5 325 22 R


Notes:
Ducasse is going to be buried on the depth chart for the foreseeable future, or at least until Slauson almost gets Mark Sanchez killed, based on Tannenbaum’s assesment of the near-miss on Sanchez’s knee during one of the first unit’s work against the Panthers.  Matt Slauson has all but won the starting job by virtue of turnstyling a lower number of defensive linemen into his QB.  Not exactly what you are looking for from the position.  Personally, I think the Jets would be better playing Turner at LG at this point, but then it would cause real havoc if the team’s backup Center needed to replace Mangold for more than the odd snap at any point during the season.

TIGHT ENDS

Pos # Name Height Weight Age Years
TE 1 81 Keller, D 6-2 250 25 3
TE 2 84 Hartsock, B 6-4 268 30 7
TE 3 82 Mulligan, M 6-4 268 25 2
TE 4 86 Cumberland, J 6-5 260 23 R


Notes:
Matthew Mulligan has played his way onto this team by virtue of his special teams play and lack of compelling backup linebackers who can double on special teams.  Everyone likes Jeff Cumberland based on his potential, and while I thought he would not make the squad last week, it’s clear that Rex wants him here, and barring any shenanigans or Woodhead-esque Game Four preseason performances, he’ll make the final roster for the Jets.

WIDE RECEIVERS

Pos # Name Height Weight Age Years
WR 1 89 Cotchery, J 6-0 203 28 7
WR 2 17 Edwards, B 6-3 214 27 6
WR 3 10 Holmes, S (susp.) 5-11 192 26 5
WR 4 16 Smith, B 6-2 212 26 5
WR 5 87 Clowney, D 6-0 187 25 3

Notes: This looks ridiculous … four receivers on the opening roster?  It just doesn’t look right.  Most teams carry five or six into a season, but I think with keeping Cumberland and Richardson on the team, they have to sacrifice somewhere, and with Holmes coming back Week Five, there’s no reason to have fluff when the team’s top TE is a beefcake’d receiver.  Clowney has beaten out Larry Taylor, a kid who’s a nice story, but nice stories alone don’t make NFL rosters when they return one kickoff and one punt in the third preseason game.  The Jets will get by until help arrives, then find a way to shelve TE Cumberland once it does.

RUNNING BACKS

Pos # Name Height Weight Age Years
RB 1 23 Greene, S 5-11 226 24 2
RB 2 21 Tomlinson, L 5-10 215 31 10
RB 3 25 McKnight, J 5-11 205 22 R
FB 1 49 Richardson, T 6-1 240 38 16
FB 2 38 Conner, J 5-11 245 23 R

Notes: More than anything, Tomlinson has shown a renewed energy this summer and I think that limiting his carries could prove a nice complement to Greene’s battering ways.  I still have doubts about Joe McKnight making the roster … I’d like him to make it, but I think that the team isn’t giving up on their draft pick just yet.

So, the above looks like the most realistic scenario to me, based on how much Rex wants Richardson on this team.  Still, I don’t know how this is going to play out based on Tannenbaum’s reluctance to do what it would take to find a roster spot for the veteran FB.  I could see a scenario where the team takes Danny Woodhead instead and leaves T-Rich off the opening day roster.

QUARTERBACKS

Pos # Name Height Weight Age Years
QB 1 6 Sanchez, M 6-2 225 23 2
QB 2 8 Brunell, M 6-1 215 39 18
QB 3 11 Clemens, K 6-2 220 27 5

Notes: The Clemens storyline on HK was one of the most compelling.  It’s proof to me that contractually, the NFL business model is a one-way street from owners to players … Clemens was forced to take a paycut, or take his chances on the open market – which would have been a death sentence, this close to the season for a guy like him.  There were no RFA overtures for Clemens last offseason, the team had been actively shopping him up until very recently, and I think he saw the reality of the situation:  make minimum level money as the #3, or get cut and take your chances.  Tannenbaum encouraged Clemens to work to make himself the long-term #2 and challenge Rex to see him as such, a conversation which couldn’t have made him feel good, and which pained me to watch.  In the offseason, Clemens will be an unrestricted free agent, and he’ll get the chance to see if there are teams who will take a risk on him, or he could come back to the Jets should nothing avail itself to him.  In some ways, I worry he’s become “Jetstitutionalized” much like Brooks in Shawshank Redemption. We’ll see this offseason.

I get that Tannenbaum is trying to shave it to the bone as much as he can (maybe as a way to justify some insane money for Revis?) but I didn’t like how that played out at all for Clemens.  It was a win for the Jets, while Clemens – a guy who just three years ago was The Great Oregonian Hope – is now barely hanging onto the Jets roster.

SPECIALISTS

Pos # Name Height Weight Age Years
K 2 Folk, N 6-1 222 25 4
LS 46 Purdum, T 6-3 270 26 1
P 9 Weatherford, S 6-3 215 27 5

Notes: Folk missed an XP last week … that’s not good for anyone most specifically himself, but hey, he’s cheap. I still contend if there is someone they like better, they’ll pick that kicker up, specifically whoever falls off the Texans roster.

Every few days, I get emails about James Dearth.  The team is moving on, and from what I saw on HK last night, they are looking to slim the cost of the roster for this season as much as possible by necessity from giving guys like Brick and Nick new deals.  Having a long-standing vet like Dearth on this team is costly, it’s something the Jets aren’t willing to really look at just yet.

33 Responses to Jets 2010 Roster Prediction: Part Two

  1. avatar Bent says:

    I think your assessment of Slauson is pretty unfair. He’s been better than you give him credit for. I like Rob Turner, but Slauson deserves the job on merit and hasn’t won it by default.

  2. avatar Matt3222 says:

    can we all start a collection to take out a full page ad in the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette imploring Revis to sign? I will gladly lead the efforts and set up a Pay Pal account to pay for this. I just cant afford it on my own. Anybody in?

  3. Does anyone see this:

    DL 3 50 Gholston, V 6-3 260 24 3

    He is the lightest DL on the roster by 30 lb. And we are considered 3-4 defense. I guess call him all you want, as long as it helps him play well.

    • avatar HHH says:

      everyone new he was small for the DL position since day 1!!

    • avatar Bent says:

      I wouldn’t read anything into the officially listed weights. Brick was 312 when he was actually about 290. DeWayne Robertson was 317 when he was actually under 300. Jenkins was 360 when he was 390 and so on.

      We know from the horse’s mouth that VG was trying to play at 270 this year, which is perfect 4-3 DE size, which is effectively the role he plays over half of the time.

  4. avatar HHH says:

    What about E. Cook??

  5. avatar EastSide says:

    “A kid who’s a nice story, but nice stories alone don’t make NFL rosters”

    Kinda funny that that’s the logic for Clowney making the team over Taylor who pretty much embodies the “nice story” player himself.

  6. avatar Adam says:

    aren’t Mulligan and Hartsock kind of redundant? Why carry both?

    • avatar Bent says:

      Mulligan’s a better special teamer and I guess the Jets want to keep him and Cumberland on the roster because they want to make sure they can bring them back next year, when cap concerns might mean Hartsock has to go.

      That’s the only explaination I can think of.

  7. avatar AKA Jack says:

    Doubts about McKnight making the roster? He’s looked pretty darned good on punt returns.

    • avatar Bassett says:

      it’s not the punt returns I’m overly worried about … it’s the cutesy dancing toward the sidelines and such he could get away with in college simply by his athletic gifts …

  8. avatar PA Jetsfan says:

    Matt322,

    No one reads the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, not even Revis!

  9. “Money” McKnight Is Making This Team No Doubt. End Debate.

  10. avatar greenpills says:

    In philly
    Tailgating.
    Philly has no love for anyone
    Let’s go jets

  11. avatar MrJetGreen says:

    I see Woodhead making the roster at the expense of Clowney. Woodhead can catch as many or more balls than the Clown and he can play specials including returning the ball. The Clown probably makes the roster and is cut after week 4.

    The Jets will pick up one or two D lineman when the free agent feeding frenzy starts with roster cuts to 53 players.

    HOT NUGGET – Clemens is the #3 QB but will be the starter if Sanchez goes down for any length of time.

  12. I’m not anti-Clowney per se, but I’d rather keep Danny Woodhead, who’s way more versatile and does nothing but produce when he’s on the field. Thoughts?

    Honestly, Woodhead is more NFL ready as a RB than even McKnight at this point…

  13. avatar AKA Jack says:

    I also see Chauncey Washington in the hunt for a final roster spot. Probably a long shot but he did get a game ball after the Carolina game for that crunching ST hit and some hard running between the tackles.

  14. avatar neauone says:

    Jets pick up an O lineman before gameday.

  15. avatar cmart28 says:

    After the first half of the Philly game, with another McKnight fumble, I think it breaks down like this:

    1-3. QB’s
    4-8. Obvious RB’s/FB’s
    9-11. Cotch, Edwards, Smith
    12-15. 4 TE’s
    16-23. 8 OL
    24. Ellis
    25. Jenkins
    26. DeVito
    27. Pouha
    28. Kroul
    29. Steinkuhler
    30. Gholston
    31. Pace
    32. Taylor
    33. Thomas
    34. Westerman
    35. Laury
    36. Scott
    37. Harris
    38. Cummings
    39. Revis/Coleman
    40. Cro
    41. Lowery
    42. Wilson
    43. Cole
    44. Leonhard
    45. Smith
    46. Diggs
    47. Pool
    48-50. K/P/LS
    51. Woodhead
    52. Washington
    53. Clowney/Holmes

  16. Anybody who has watched this perseason can not be excited. This team walks around like they accomplished something.Wow what a fun training camp that must have been.The backups stink and vlad and mcknight stink.Rex looks miserable deakling with these players.

  17. avatar Jb says:

    McKnight has no business making this team. Taylor, Washington, and woodhead all have a place here over McKnight. The guy is way too immature at this stage in his life to be an nil player. Drop a tight end and give the three headed monster of midgets ( woodhead washington Taylor) a chance

  18. Greg “the shill” buttle just said that revis couldnt cover holmes. Are you kidding me who does this guy know that he has a job.

  19. a team that fumbles is an undisciplined team

  20. avatar Chris R. says:

    Woodhead and Chauncey both deserve spots on the team..McKnight does not

  21. avatar Chris R. says:

    Buttle is just awful…ridiculous comments all night long. “Jim Leonhard would have trouble making the 49ers” “Revis cant cover Holmes”

  22. avatar Crazy Eddie says:

    I only count 51 names above, so there is a couple spots available for the woodheads, cooks, and warrens I guess.