Breaking: Schottenheimer Gone; Jets to Hire Sparano
Rejoice. After weeks of speculation, the Jets have just announced that embattled offensive coordinator Brian Schottenheimer has informed the team he will not return next season. According to ESPN’s Chris Mortensen, the Jets are expected to hire former Dolphins head coach Tony Sparano as their new offensive coordinator as early as tomorrow.
Stay tuned for more..
331 Responses to Breaking: Schottenheimer Gone; Jets to Hire Sparano
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Rafael says:
OH YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAH!!!!!! SUPERBOWL BABE!
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SackDance99 says:
Our long Jet National nightmare is over!
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johhnyjetson says:
Yes…my prayers have come true!! Thank you lord!!! I volunteer to drive him to the airport!!
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joeyboy79 says:
And while your at it pick up a rt/depth, safetys,pass rusher, LBs, wr, rb,p,k,and a back up qb who will push Sanchez.
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JetsFans4GIANTS says:
You & 31 other teams. Anything else you’d like? How about Maurice Jones-Drew, Logan Mankins & Patrick Willis as well; all because they will take a discount to play for Rex, right? Do you think the salary cap applies to every team except for the Jets? Dude, the Jets have 75% of the projected 2012 cap allocated to 9 players. Do the math: that means they 25% of the cap ton spend on 46 players. If you think you’re getting anything other than below average journeymen, veterans coming off big injuries or inexperienced rookies, you’re fooling yourself.
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B ROCK says:
Beat it Buzz Killington
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Revis Christ says:
can we ban trolls?
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Again, punk, where am I wrong? Ban me for speaking the truth? If you don’t like it, dont read it. Ya dig?
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Johnny Reefer says:
i dont think they ment you!
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I just lost my “woody”
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Robert says:
HATER!!!!
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stanner says:
at the airport?!
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jerk says:
I agree with every thing besides a new running back.
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I agree, with all our other needs, lets make JM the second half of Green and see what happens.He just has to hold on to the ball.
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Dave says:
Bye Bye Brian! You’re a great guy & a solid coach (not the worst OC we’ve ever had)… But you will not be missed…
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Christian says:
+1
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WesleyWalker Was Awesome says:
YESSSSSS!!!!!! WOO HOO !!!
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First thing on my to do list tomorrow is start palnning my SB party.
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mike francesser says:
I haven’t seen one post indicate this is a move that will secure a Super Bowl. No one is denying that personnel upgrades are in order as well but that portion of the offseason has not started yet.
Schotty’s resume as Jets’ OC is miserable; even when he had very talanted personnel. Even if Sporano proves to be a lateral move, a new voice might be what’s in order.
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JDB says:
See I told you guys to stop worrying.
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Now I wil sleep like a baby!
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john says:
Be careful what you wish for…..but I sure do hope this works out!
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Nah nah nahhhh nah nah nahhhhh HEY HEYYYYYY GOOOODBYEEEEEEE… but why sparano and not hue jackson..
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Thank You Jesus!!!!
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clint says:
We want Hue Jackson!!
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Olive says:
Do we? I sure as hell don’t. Head Coach of the most penalized team in nfl history. We dont need any more problems. And quite frankly hes an a** clown
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Jolly Green Mangold says:
Just curious, what’s Sparano’s offensive reputation look like?
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ny213 says:
when he called plays in dallas they had the 5 ranked offense in 2006 that was romos first year so he has lots of experience with young qbs
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boogie down says:
Yeah, that year they ranked 5th in passing yards and 13th in rushing yards. Clearly, he wasn’t beholden to the run in spite of what his reputation may indicate.
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DirtySanchez6 says:
THANK YOU!!!!
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Ryan says:
Good football mind with a very good pedigree and a bright future most likely. With that being said im glad hes gone, it just wasnt a fit. I will not however forget those games where he seemed to put out the perfect game plan and helped this team to some pretty big wins the last few years, but again im glad hes gone.
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Were you saying that when he was coaching the Dolphins? I don’t think so. Chad Henne is a better QB than Mark Sanchez; Brandon Marshall is better than any Jets WR; the Dolphins OL is better than the Jets’ OL; and their offense never finished in the top 10 during his tenure in Miami. What makes you think he will change the Jets?
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LeReviis says:
lol @ chad henne being better than Sanchez
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Dude, before you go blasting people, at least read and properly comprehend their posts in their entirety!
“…[W]ith that being said, I’m glad he’s gone, it just wasn’t a fit.” That’s clearly a reference to Schotty; Nowhere in Ryan’s post does he even hint at discussing Sparano.
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lead the league in fcking wins says:
if flipper’s oline is so good and their receiver core is better than what the jets have, then how come henne couldnt throw more than 15 tds?
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fortune. says:
this may be…the happiest i’ve been in all my life
this…this is our year fellas-
Are you kidding me, over an OC? OK, to each his own, lol. Lets not overreact please. No matter how good he is and thats debatable with .475 career record with the phins, we still need huge upgrades in talent and Sanchez has to come through. I see this as just a lateral move and that is all. Sparano is just average at best. The real differnce will come from our personnel moves.Put that in the bank!
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greg sec 336 no more says:
Would you please STOP IT ALREADY!
This is the only move they can make until March when the league starts. All your calls for all the other moves you want them to make can’t be done until then. This was the ONLY move they could make in Jaunary to improve the team, and they did it. SO excuse us for being ecstatic and feeling like finally the front office is headed in the right direction this offseason. NOBODY believes this is the only thing that needed correcting, we all just thought it was the first, minor change (that they had never made before).
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February 13th Free Agency starts so there, lol. All this fuss over hiring a guy whose offense declined EVERY year since he was with the phins! Talk about jumping from the frying pan into the fire! The phin fans hate him down there as much as we hate shotty up here for the same reason of being too conservative. T is on a roll!
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andy says:
Why should we stop celebrating?
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matt3222 says:
Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh!!!
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AHAHAHAHHA YESSSSSSSS!!!!!!!
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I also like the fact that Sparano will be OC. Who better to understand the weaknesses of the Jets offense? He faced us a bunch of times and has to have a good idea about how to improve the offense. And, he’ll know who to show the door. I’d say more Wildcat is a certainty as is more of a power running game.
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He couldnt improve his own offense. He finished the phins with a .475 pct.
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There are some coordinators that are just not good HCs. Wade Phillips, Marty Mohrningweg, Cam Cameron, Mike Nolan. Sparano was known as an OL maven, a good developer of TEs and good at developing QBs. As much as you hate Tanny, he’s George Young compared to Jeff Ireland. So, with better OL personnel, a better TE, better RBs and a better QB, together with a GM and owner committed to winning an SB, Sparano should have better success. I would say it’s a lock that the running game will instantly be more dynamic. And, I’ll be very interested to see what he can do with Keller and Cumberland, not to mention Kerley in the Wildcat.
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Wildcat? Do you know anything about football? The Wildcat was a gimmick offensive formation that has become absolutely irrelevant & unproductive the past couple seasons. How many team’s ran the Wildcat this season & are still playing football? Do not say the Broncos; they run a spread option with Tebow & it is only effective because Tebow is & was probably the best spread option QB in college football history. Even the Broncos had to drop back & pass the ball to get this far. The problem is Sanchez, not the coach. Thisnis like plugging a dam leak with your finger. Changing OCs does NOTHING to change the personnel problems that were the real problem behind the Jets’ offensive futility this season. Look at the teams & their QBs who are still playing: Packers (Rodgers); Saints (Brees); 49ers (Smith); Giants (ELIte Manning); Patriots (Brady); Ravens (Flacco); Texans (Yates); and Broncos (Tebow). 5 of those 8 teams have a QB who can put up 300-plus yards any given week & carry their team. The 3 that don’t, 49ers, Texans & Broncos, all have dominant running backs & running games to go long with great defenses, led by dominant pass rushers. The Jets don’t have a QB who can carry this team nor do they have a great RB & dominant running game to compensate for the QB’s weaknesses. The Jets defense is okay, but no longer great, they’re aging quick, and most importantly they don’t have any pass rushers. Again, the issue is & was the personnel, nit Schotty. Once this offense shows little to no improvement under Sparano, maybe, just maybe you guys will finally realize that.
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Sack knows plenty about football you troll. This isn’t a giants blog. If you want to jump on a bandwagon go for it but on this site theres only one wagon right now: Tony Sparano
Go Packers…Giants fans deserve nothing
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Dawg1331 says:
Oh really, that’s why Eli started getting good when the giants made a change at OC. Your a clown who talks out of his ass.
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Easy Dog!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Eli also had a solid team around him.His O line back then was rock solid.That is what Sanchez needs to develop AS A qb and it could also be possible.
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When did the Giants make a change at OC? Tom Coughlin’s first year with the Giants was Eli’s first year & his OC then is the same OC now, Kevin Gillbride. Who’s talking out of his ass?
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Sanchez was coming along fine and management dropped the ball this season. With some positive changes and a better supporting cast around him, he can be a solid qb. All your stats mean nothing as results are more important. Sanchez has shown that he can win with the right players around him. Due to circumstances ,the jury is out on sanchez. JetsFans4GIANTS, you sound like you just enjoy bashing sanchez, but are not looking at the entire picture!
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Okay, hater. No use in arguing. Enjoy the Giants-Packers game.
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I will. But my Jets are #1!
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it will be a hard game to enjoy as a giants fan!
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I am not counting the gmen out. They were right there with them the last game and that was when they were without their pass rush and missing key players.Now all thier pass rushes are back. Their secondary was also having huge communication problems which now has been resolved. Their run game has opened up again and they are amped up. They are much better than the first time they played the packers and the packers oline is banged up and with the giants fierce pass rush, not a good combo for the packers. The packers have been off for a few weeks and the giants are hitting their apex. No way am I counting them out.
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SouthWestJet says:
Packers 52 – gmen 13 HaHaHaHaHa
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Murse13 says:
“Again, the issue is & was the personnel, nit Schotty…”
Schotty? Is that you?
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flacco says:
Hahaha you think flacco can carry the team? yeah. okay.
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J Roc says:
Great opinion. Also, Sparano was an OL coach in Dallas. Helps fills the void left by Callahan.
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It’s interesting that he was the OL coach and was given the play-calling duties in 2006, before handing them off to the then-wunderkind, Jason Garrett, in 2007. What happened to the Cowboys’ OC in 2006?
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Zack says:
THANK YOU TEBOW!!!!
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Voiceofdoom says:
OH NO SAY IT AIN”T SO TONY SOPRANO WOULD BE BETTER THAN TONY SPARANO> YIKES WE WANT CHARLIE WIESS
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brightfuture says:
isn’t he about to be the coach of Hawai’i?
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Jimbo says:
Never had a problem with Schotty. Oh well, good luck pal.
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Jeff says:
Um… is Sparano any better? I am bitter the damn Chargers kept Norv Turner!!
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I’d much rather have Hue Jackson than Sparano IMO
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I want to see at least 4 40 yard passes a game. This is why we should have kept Braylon. He opened up the field. I want to see deep balls to Holmes and Kerley. Keller needs to be involved and we need to give McKnight a try. Our year boys!! Lets get a good draft pick and start their!
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You just don’t get it, do you? The lack of deep passes for the Jets was not a result of Schotty not calling them; it was because Mark Sanchez couldn’t complete them. I’m not going to go into my whole analysis, again, and argue with another Jets fan who refuses to accept what statistics tell them about a player. Just please, take a look at the link below and then tell me why would any OC who is interested in keeping the ball more than 3 downs, let alone his job, would ask Mark Sanchez to throw the ball deep even once in a game.
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Bob Kole says:
Then his long passes at USC were mirages?
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Ghost On says:
Hey, did you look at the link before you posted it? what is that supposed to prove? Peyton was 4 spots higher on deep throw completion %. The diff was 2%…does that mean peyton should never throw it deep? Obviously not. Stupid post.
Although, considering peyton’s neck…and the stinger Sanchez had in his…hmm…
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The Chart indicates Mark was a good deep ball passer. You must have misread it, or assumed you knew what it was saying. Read it again.
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” The lack of deep passes for the Jets was not a result of Schotty not calling them; it was because Mark Sanchez couldn’t complete them.”
He attempted three of them all season. Three! He threw 26 in the two season before that. What does that have to do with an inability to complete them?
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J-Kay says:
PARTY
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Genedog65 says:
Is he the man who tells the guys where to go?
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JACK THE FOOTBALL GURU says:
Who knows how Sparano would do. All I know is the Jets offense needed a remodeling and that is happening. A capable offense with a better Mark and a renewed elite defense next year = recipe for success…
By the way, I know Nick Folk is under contract, but… Jay Feely is a free agent. Boy do I miss Jay Feely.
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A renewed, elite defense is a lot to ask for. The players on defense are getting old & 2012 brings about just another year on their tired legs. The defense was on the field A LOT this year due to the offense’s futility. If I were you, I would hope & pray that there is not a significant decline in the defensive performance & leave “renewed, elite defense” alone. Defenses age at a pace much quicker than offenses, aside from RBs, due to the constant contact on every play. Defenses in the NFL are like starting pitchers in the MLB. Aside from very few, young, elite pitchers, when a pitcher throws 200-plus innings in any given season, you can almost bank on either declined production the following year or a significant injury. Increased age only increases that likelihood. I would expect a significant decline in the Jets’ defense in 2012. I hope I’m wrong because I love watching the Jets’ defense when it’s clicking on all cylinders, but this is a proven trend that I don’t see getting past the Jets.
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Excellent points.We know we need youth and speed. Hopefully it will be addressed.
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This is such a wrong-headed opinion that I have to laugh. Defensive players usually have far longer careers than offensive players. The Jets have a ton of youth on defense. Where’s the age? Pouha is the oldest Jet, but he started his career at 26, so he doesn’t have a lot of tread on his tires. Besides Scott and Pace, the rest of the starters and key subs are under 30 and most are in their mid-20s. The Jets D is surprisingly young, with guys like Revis, Harris, Cro not in their primes and Wilkerson, Maybin and Wilson are under 25. The Jets D old? Just not true.
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I meant to say “tread gone” from his tires as Pouha has only been a starter 1 season and a regular for 3 seasons.
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Kevin says:
DROP THE BOMB ON SCHOTTY PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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jetfaninhoboken says:
HALLELUJAH! The reign of Schotty is over!
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Ok , now with this horse and pony show out of the way, lets hope they now go in the war room and plan on addressing all our key needs. At least I wont have to hear fire shotty 24/7 now, that is the only thing positive to come out of this BS PR shuffle. Now its time to address the real needs.
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Do you really think they were spending the last week staring at a photo of Brian Schottenheimer? They were not spending the time on this that the media and fans were.
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schottyhater says:
yesssssssssssssssssss
schotty gone
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Señor storm says:
Thank you Tim tebet for answering my prayers
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I want to see MARK SANCHEZ TRANSFORM INTO AARON RODGERS OVERNIGHT!!!!!
300+ YARDS PG!
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NEVER happening. Aaron Rodgers can make every throw, especially the deep pass, with impeccable accuracy. Accuracy isn’t taught or developed at thisnstage of a QBs career. The only time Sqnchez and Rodgers should ever be used in the same sentence is when you are using an example of the best starting QB in the NFL compared to the worst.
Alex Smith > Mark Sanchez
Tim Tebow > Mark Sanchez
Chad Henne > Mark Sanchez
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its a joke you breathing waste of a sperm.
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Why the hatred, punk? Is it because my boys in blie dominated & embarrassed you guys on Christmas Eve? Just when you guys thought you had the best team in town, we go out & beat your ass as visitors; win a division title, something you guys couldn’t do the past two seasons your team made AFC CG APPEARANCES, and that 1 division title this year is only 1 less than the total amount of division titles the Jets have won since the AFC formed in 1970 (2 division titles over 42 years is a nice average of 1 every 20.5 years); and we won the first and only playoff game in “Jetlife Stadium.” Hate our success all you want. It’s jackasses like you that bolster the widely accepted position that Jets fans are the most unintelligent fan base regarding football knowledge in the NFL. Let me guess, you’re one of the fans who think MJD & Peyton Manning are coming to the Jets, right? You’re a joke, dude. I speak the truth & you get offensive. I don’t hate the Jets, I just hate idiot fans like you who can’t come up with a logical argument so you resort to hate. Debate me, punk. Tell me why I’m wrong. Am I wrong because I’m a waste of sperm? I’ve accomplished more during the course of my wasteful life than you can even dream of.
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you know who is lame? dudes who troll other fan blogs cause they got nothing better to do with their time.
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This is in the gutter! Lets chill.
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TOM says:
Why is a Giant fan like yourself on a Jet blog??? Your team is in the playoffs, with a very good chance to beat the Packers on Sunday, and your so preoccupied with the Jets that you have to spend all day on a Jet blog fighting with Jet fans???
What this shows is that despite all the Giants titles and all their success, the Giant fan is still threatened by the success of the Jets. Just like Mike Francesa, you hide behind your statement of “just stating the facts”, but its clear as day how jealous you are of the Jets and their success, despite the Giants success. That, my friend, shows how truly sad the Giant fan is.
When the Giants were choking away the last 2 seasons, as Desean Jackson broke your little hearts, I never heard 1 Jet fan call WFAN celebrating Giant losses, or I never spent 1 minute on a Giants blog rubbing it in.
When the Jets were winning playoff games, I couldnt care less about the Giants, all I cared about was my team.
But when the Jets lose, Giant fans cant be happier. You, as a Giant fan, seem more concerned about the Jets than your own team. This either makes you a very jealous Giants fan, or someone that has nothing else better to do than spend all day on blogs. Either way, you are a total loser, and in need of a hobby.
Get off this blog and start using energy rooting for your own team, you pathetic excuse for both a Giant fan and a human being in general!!!
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Why are some giants fans so short sighted. one year Eli finally does what he gets paid to do and carries their team to squeak into the playoffs, and now their trolling a jets sight writing paragraphs upon paragraphs of bias hatred.
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*FYI, I’m using third overall year in the NFL, not as the starter*
Sanchez: 3474 yds, 26 pass TD, 18 INT, 56.7% comp, 78.2 RTG
Roethlisberger: 3513 yds, 18 TD, 23 INT, 59.7% comp, 75.4 RTG
Eli: 3244 yds, 24 TD, 18 INT, 57.7% comp, 77.0 RTG
Brees (played only 11 games, so I’ll provide his 16-game pace): 3066 yds, 16 TD, 22 INT, 57.6% comp, 67.5 RTG
The latter three are clearly elite, Super Bowl-winning, franchise QB’s. While we can debate the probability that Sanchez reaches such a level, I think we can agree that the book hasn’t been written yet.
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What boogie down said. Also, if I remember correctly, in his first four years in the league, HOFer Steve Young had a worse completion percentage than Sanchez has in his first three years.
And, oh, yes, good-bye, Schotty, good-bye!
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Using third year in the NFL stats is BS & you chose to use them only to bolster your position. There is a HUGE difference between 3rd year in the NFL & 3rd full year as a starter. When you go into the season as the starter, the QB is in a leadership role, takes OTA & training camp reps with the 1st team & plays with the 1st team against opposing 1st team defenses. You can’t consider a QB a rookie until he has that first full offseason with his players as the number 1 QB. Regarding the 3 you mentioned above, Ben & Eli both had Super Bowl rings by the conclusion of their 3rd full year as starters. As for Brees, there are quite a few similarities between a young Brees & a young Sanchez. Brees has never possessed a strong arm & has made a living with the short to intermediate passing game (8-15 yards). Sanchez certainly doesn’t have a strong arm & it was one of the knocks against him coming out of USC. Nevertheless, Brees is proof that you don’t need a strong arm to be a successful NFL QB. Maybe with the right teaching & gameplan, Sanchez could become a player as good as Brees. I would like to see that happen because from all appearances, Sanchez is a hard worker & despite his propensity to screw girls significantly youger than him, he seems like a really nice kid. However, one glaring difference between the two is accuracy. Accuracy, even more than a strong arm, is the most important asset a NFL QB can possess. With that being said, accuracy cannot be taught; you either have it or you don’t. Sanchez’s completion percentage this year, along with the fact that the rarely threw deep, demonstrates he doesn’t possess NFL accuracy. Some passes he is right on the money, but others you wonder where the hell he is throwing it. His deep accuracy is even worse. He either under throws the ball by 10 yards, resulting in a pick, 15 yards over the WRs head, or 10 yards out of bounds. Very rarely are his deep throws right on the mark. That is the most compelling evidence that he will never be a top NFL QB & there is a high likelihood that his performance has peaked.
I’m going to give you a few QB stats to chew on. This time they are the stats of the respective QB’s third full year as the full-time starter.
Kyle Orton (2010; 13 games prorated to 16 games):
4,496 yards / 25 TD / 11 Int / 58.8 % / 87.5 QBRByron Leftwich (2005; 11 games prorated to 16):
3,088 yards / 22 TD / 14 Int / 57.9% / 89.3 QBRDavid Garrard (2009):
3,597 yards / 15 TD / 10 Int / 60.9% / 83.5 QBRMatt Cassel (2010; 15 games prorated to 16 games):
3,324 yards / 28 TD / 7 Int / 57.9% / 89.3 QBRMark Sanchez (2011):
3,474 yards / 26 TD / 18 Int / 56.7% / 78.2 QBR3 of those 4 are without full-time starting jobs right now (Orton was a fill-in for the Chiefs) and I don’t really think many people here view Cassel as even a good, let alone elite NFL QB. Another stat for Sanchez that lends credence to the fact that he’ll never be very good is his dismal yards per attempt, the true barometer of a QB’s effectiveness. His yards per attempt this year was a dismal 6.40 this year, worst in the league amongst QBs who started every game this season. It is more likely that Sanchez becomes one of the above 4 players, hopefully along the lines of Cassel, than the 3 you mentioned. Then again, who knows? However, the eye test doesn’t lie and he didn’t show that he has the ability to be a top NFL QB this year.
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Eli didn’t crack 60% completions until his 5th season and still has a career 58.4%. Also, Eli badly regressed from his 3rd to 4th season, but oddly won a Super Bowl. From my eye, Sanchez regressed. It’s hard to know the source, but we will see next season if Schotty held him back. In his defense, there’s no NFL throw that Sanchez can’t make, but he’s very inconsistent. He has a tendency to throw behind his receivers and throw low. Can he be coached better? Is it a natural progression in his development? Who knows, but as shown by Eli, completion percentage alone doesn’t tell the whole story.
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Harvlis says:
When they win four away playoff games, let me know.
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They did, buddy. They won 4 straight playoff games on the road when they won their last Super Bowl in 2007-2008. Are you really going to hang your hat on the fact that you guys won 4 road playoff games over two years? Come on, bro, you’re better than that. How many Super Bowls did the Jets win over that time? None, and more none since ten NFL/AFL merger in 1970. How many conference titles did the Jets win? None, and yet some more none since 1970. How many division titles did they win? None, and only 2 since 1970. They don’t give out Wild Card trophies & they don’t give out trophies for finishing 4th. How about you tell me when the Jets actually win a trophy to go along with that old, lonely, tarnished Super Bowl trophy sitting in Floral Park from 40-plus years ago.
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I was referring to Smith, Tebow, Henne, and Grossman.
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I was referring to the Smith, Tebow, Henne, and Grossman comment.
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How could anyone not think that was a joke?
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#1defense says:
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Scape-goat. And Tony Sparano? I’m sorry but what more has he done as an OC than Schotty? The Dolphins offense got BETTER after he got the axe. Also, Dallas’ offense under him was far from a juggernaut. When he comes in next year & there is little to no improvement with the offense, specifically Sanchez, who are all of you guys going to blame then? Schotty leaving does nothing but put a band-aid over a gaping shotgun wound. The problem is the personnel, specifically the mediocre QB & the overrated RB. Sparano isn’t going to make Sanchez learn how to throw the ball deep with accuracy & he’s not going make Shonn Greene get faster. Temper your excitement; Vince Lombardi couldn’t fix this offense.
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The aggregate of Eli Manning’s first three years in the NFL:
41 G, 39 GS, W-L: 20-19, 690/1276 (54.1%), 8049 yds (6.3 YPA; 196.3 yds per game), 54 pass TD, 44 INT, 73.2 RTG, 60 rushes, 136 rush yds, 1 rush TD, 21 total fumbles
The aggregate of Mark Sanchez’s first three years in the NFL:
47 G, 47 GS, W-L: 27-20, 782/1414 (55.3%), 9209 yds (6.5 YPA; 195.9 yds per game), 55 pass TD, 51 INT, 73.2 RTG, 103 rushes, 314 rush yds, 12 rush TD’s, 29 total fumbles
The key here is that the rate stats are nearly identical, apart from rushing TD’s. While Sanchez needs to be more secure with the football, there’s pretty strong statistical evidence that suggests he’s right where Eli Manning, indisputably an elite QB, was as a passer at this point in his career.
Remember, Eli stagnated in his 4th year, seeing a slight reduction from the prior year in his completion percentage and TD’s, a slight increase in his INT’s, and nearly a 50% jump in the number of times he fumbled.
All of this is to say, it takes time, diligence, and patience to develop a QB. Being that you know how Eli progressed, why should we Jet fans have no reason to believe Sanchez will do so accordingly, especially when their statistical profiles are exceedingly similar?
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You can think he’s going to develop into Eli all you want. I’ll advise you not to hold your breath. They’re two completely different QBs. Eli had all the tools coming into the NFL whereas Sanchez had significant weaknesses. Eli steadily improved on the few weaknesses he had early in his career & showed signs of being elite early his career. Sanchez hasn’t improved much since he has started his career & hasn’t shown any signs of being more than average. He is either an average QB one day or terrible another; never great. I may be wrong though, and it would be good to see him succeed. He has one more year to show it or else he’ll be trying to do it somewhere else.
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Sanchez came in with not even a full college career. He has in his first two years won 4 playoff games and both times one game away from the SB. This year management pilliged his offense! He was all set to make the leap and had his chemistry of wrs taken, an oline with a career back up who sucked at RT and depth issues which had him battered all season. Next season if given back the resources that were taken away and a breath of fesh air in coaching, he will be on the right track to being a very good qb.
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This man lost his job! How dare you morons celebrate his familys trial and tribulations. Besides i think considering what he had to work with he did a great job this year! There were 3 games in which the jets scored 30 points or more.
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I’m sure he wont be on the line for food stamps.
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xtremestarzz says:
was even he fired?
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Actually, he informed the team he would not returned so he wasn’t fired. Leads me to believe there will be something else on the table. He did not do a good job this year or any other year he was the Jets OC.
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Bent, we need a “drop the bomb” thread, if you know what I mean.
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If sparano didn’t work out as head coach what makes you think he will have a different approach with the jets?
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chris says:
sometimes people arent meant to be head coaches, look at wade phillips as a DC vs a head coach
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BurbankJetsFan says:
^THIS^ times 911
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sorry team america reference…
F Yeah!
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You just slayed Clint with this reponse. Game over
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Technically, yes, but it has been mentioned in previous posts that Cavanaugh has told his close friends that he feels he’ll be fired. As there seems to be a bit of a coaching overhaul going on, I see no reason to believe Cavanaugh will be retained, considering Rex and Tanny’s thoughts on Sanchez’s stalled development.
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The thing is, how can tanny not expect Sanchezs development to be stalled when you keep changing his wr chemistry on him and also downgrade them and let the oline go to hell in which he was battered all year and had a career back up start at RT who was the worst in the league in protection , HELLO!!!!
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Nothing close to major, just your typical PR shuffling after the team has failed expectations.Normal SOP.
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Overhauling your entire offensive style, playbook and leadership is merely a minor PR move?
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Thats what makes this lateral move suck even more.
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I was mocking you. Overhauling an offense is not a PR move. I’m going back to ignoring you, but when you post 1/5 of the time with the same misguided message over and over it’s quite difficult to do without cutting down my visits to this site.
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Dylan says:
Schotty and Rex desperately wanted Schotty back. They just happened to have a replacement ready two minutes after he announced he was leaving lol. This is why you never take anything Tanny says seriously. Everything he says is a calculated move.
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I wish his calculated moves didnt leave us in such a huge hole with depth and talent needs though and Sparano, nothing close to special. I reviewd his career in google and nothing stands out at all.
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The only reason he was hired as a head coach was because he was successful as an assistant coach. Being a successful head coach and being a successful offensive coordinator are completely different. We will probably run the ball a lot more with Sparano, and use duel-TE sets.
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A 10 win improvement, developing the best possible offense for Chad Pennington and getting the Parcells seal of approval aren’t good enough for you? Also, he developed a pretty good running game in Dallas and helped develop Romo. If folks want a guy that will be pass happy, then Sparano isn’t your guy. If you want a powerful running game and a controlled passing game, then he’s your guy. Plus, he’s a disciplinarian and judging from all the offensive penalties and me-first attitudes, a little discipline would be a good thing.
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Nonetheless, it’s interesting to note that the year he was given play-calling duties in Dallas, 2006, the Cowboys finished 5th in total passing yards and 13th in total rushing yards. Of added importance is that this was the year that Romo took over and started the season’s final 10 games. That the Cowboys performed so well passing the ball in the midst of some QB turmoil implies that Sparano wasn’t as beholden to the run as we may think.
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Ben Nevis says:
Dylan—
I agree: whenever Mike T says he “expects” someone to be back next season, it’s like the kiss from the mafioso that means you’re gonna get whacked.
As for Schotty saying he’s not coming back, I think this means that Mike T saw that OCs around the league were being snapped up by other teams, and he had to act fast, so he made Schotty an offer he couldn’t refuse: either you announce you’re leaving, BS, or we’re gonna can you.
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PA Jetsfan says:
What has Hue Jackson done to draw your support (overlap w/Rex for 1 yr)? I like Sprano and company. I think the tandem that was discussed earlier this week could work now that Callahan is heading to the big D. Sprano on the pass and Todd Haley on the run.
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Massive says:
I think it was the other way around; Haley on the pass and Sparano on the run.
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You are correct
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Is that still a possibility? It’s interesting from both sides — the positive possibilities of having both a passing and rushing expert (I’m assuming they’re qualified to be referred to as such) on the staff, handling those responsibilities that they are most comfortable with; and the negative possibilities of having too many voices and no real offensive identity, among other things.
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Mark Gastineau says:
Since Schottenheimer stated that he has decided to not return I wonder does that mean he forfeits his salary?
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Probably means he thinks he has a good shot at either a lateral NFL move or a college gig and that he and the Jets probably reached an agreement in regards to the remainder of his deal.
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Mark & mike—
As I said above, the fact that Schotty said he has decided not to return is probably a factor of Mike T seeing all the other (desirable) OCs around the league starting to get snapped up by other teams, and he had to act fast, so he made Schotty an offer he couldn’t refuse: either you announce you’re leaving, BS, or we’re gonna can you.
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Bring back Paul Hackett!!! or even mike Heimerdinger!!
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jetsdt715 says:
uhhh…Mike Heimerdinger passed away….RIP
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heimerdinger died…
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Didn’t Sparano basically give legitimacy to Reggie Bush’s career as a feature back? He was also the coach when Pennington was in Miami, right? I also remember hearing that Haley and Sparano are basically a package deal this off-season? I’d like this move, personally.
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YESSSSSS
Sparano will go with Rex and get this team back to a ground and pound offense
LOVE IT
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Justin says:
Awesome! Big fan of Sparano..he got a bit of a raw deal but he seems to know what to do and how to motivate divas (Marshall!).
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Thought Haley went to Arizona?
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If I was Shotty I would ask for one hell of a severance package considering how he had his talent decimated by management this season and had to watch the game with blindfolds on as his qb was beaten to a pulp.Good luck Sparano!
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Only if they can they make him pay back his salary for the years they gave him talent and he stunk.
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You guys make sparano out to be vince lombardi, and news flash Sparano is a huge METS fan, not a good sign.
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David says:
mike Heimerdinger is not a candidate, as he sadly passed away not too long ago.
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I loved his HBO show.
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I hope the Jets move fast and that Todd Haley joins Tony Sparano as a joint package, respectively handling the passing and running game.
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I can picture the two slugging it out over the ratio of runs to passes and trying to establish an identity.
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Mort says he may go with Sprano.
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I can picture what Holmes is thinking to himself on hearing this news? Maybe something like this, If this guy thinks he will just come in and be sheriff he has another thing coming, cause if he does, I will make his life miserable, lol.
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I wonder if Pauly Walnuts will be named receivers coach. “Hey T”!
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LOL!
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He will make T an offer he cant refuse!
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Joe B. says:
SMH. That’s Godfather, not Sopranos. Stick to pretending like Schotty got a raw deal.
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Jets Phan says:
Ah yeah
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Gentleman, this is our SB!
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Y didn’t they get him to replace callahan .an hire Haley as oc.but dam I wanted the green bay qb coach clements
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Haley didn’t go to Arizona then?
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YEAAAAAAA BABAYYYYYYYYYY
I AM JUMMMPINGGG UP AND DOWWWNNN THIS WAS THE POST I WAS WAITING FOR ALL DAYYYYY.
FINALLY LOVE IT GOOO JETS SO FREAKEN HAPPY.
SORRY FOR THE CAPSSS.
Go Jets 2012.
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They have had a volatile relationship. They got into a shoving match two years ago outside the stadium in Miami and Sparano spit at Rex. Only kidding, they are buddies, at least now!
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Hahahaha, I enjoyed the “volatile” characterization.
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I get a little punchy late at night.Have to have a little fun.
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We might not have a SB in the last 40 something years, but we get our fill of fun and drama!
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Harlan Lachman says:
Good news bad news.
Good news. We clean house and get rid of almost all the offensive coaching drek.
Bad news. We supposedly hire a loser.
While having Shott gone is good, he will get his revenge because we are not hiring a young innovative mind capable of adapting to the talent he has and with proven success in multiple systems (pro, spread, and option).
I was hoping for a Mark Whipple.
Harlan
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Joey The Jet says:
why yall keep deleying my commenst,i didnt cuss,wussup with this favoritism?
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frustratedjetfan says:
Great news. Sanchez needs a new voice to listen to, someone to ID his weaknesses, get him to work on them AND optimize his strengths with the right play calls. This is th best thing that could happen to Mark’s career.
On the flip side, wish Brian the best but it was really time for a change for both him & the Jets.
If the choice is Sparano, at least he knows why the Jets offense was so easy to defend against & what talent was wasted. If we focus on personnel now, next year we’ll be back in the playoffs easy.
A change on Offense was a no brainer. After 8-8 this is a key moment in Jets future; either go for it or fall behind to hungrier teams. Miami at least always played like they weren’t afraid to win.- This makes my day.
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I clearly remember an interview with Sanchez last season when he said that he has ALMOST all of the playbook finally down, and now he has to start all over again.
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I will guarantee that learning Schotty’s play book means that Sanchez can easily digest a new one. Seemed like Chad, who went to Miami during training camp, picked up the Phins’ offense pretty quickly and Brees picked up Sean Payton’s pretty easily, too.
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Chad is a scholar, Breeze and Peyton Manning has the same wonerlic score as Sanchez 28.Fitz was in the low 40s as is McElroy!28 is considered good for a qb,low 20s is average.
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So, you agree with me. Having learned a far more difficult and complex Schotty play book, any other OC’s play book will be easy to digest. And, judging from Chad’s success with the Phins and virtually no time to learn the play book, Sanchez with a full off season should be fine. Or, do you disagree?
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You’re right, Chad is a scholar — he was a finalist for the Rhodes Scholarship while at Marshall. That he couldn’t properly grasp Schotty’s playbook should be the loudest, most damning indictment of the reported overcomplexity that riddles those pages.
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So Schotty is exploring all his options? You think McDonalds or Burger King? Or are those menus a little too complex. He does have trouble with understanding simple tasks so maybe 5 guys. Ding Dong the witch is dead. Its like a huge weight has been lifted off our shoulders
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The witch is dead but will OZZ be exposed now without a scapegoat?
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Many have said he has problems processing things between the 20s, is anyone worried that this will now be a bigger problem with all the new terminolgy and new book?
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Depends on the level of complexity of the new system.
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Very true. Hopefully like frustratedjetfan posted, they will make it Sanchez friendly.
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Sorry, I was stuck on west Broadway. What did I miss?
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Shotty’s actual statement: “I resign as HC, I mean OC, because I want to be a HC. Crap this isn’t nearly as cool as when Bill did this and went NE to be HC. Anyway, I wanna be a HC. Malarky? This sucks. I’m out of here.”
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miketaliaferro says:
Sparano?? Just what does HE bring to the table? Never heard of him until Tuna had him in tow in Dallas, then Miami. What’s he ever done as a OC to justify this move?
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Unfortunately when you google his career, nothing stands out at all, but you still never know. This had to be done if for just the fact to remove a variable in shotty that MIGHT have been the problem. As I have said, this is just the tip of the iceburg.
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So the other question is next is Todd Haley coming also?
But any ways love fresh mind new ideas now we can get ready for the draft. With a fresh mind in Sparano.
Norv suck as a coach but great OC. So lets give it a try with this guy I know it will be good.
But as I can see some Jets fans are never happy geeez guys.
Good luck to Schotty hope all goes well.
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Todd Haley will probably be our new WR coach now. I have a feeling this was a package deal.
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I had my fun with this and all jokes aside, we needed this if only for the fact to take away a variable that MIGHT have been part of the problem. Maybe this can be an improvent but only when the team is built around Sanchez. We know what type of qb he is, not a rodgers, brady , breeze, or even an eli. He needs a solid supporting cast. If this move with Shotty gives us momentum to role now, it was worth it but if T uses it as justification that all is good now and goes back to counting his beans we will fail again. Now I will just wait for our predraft moves and see if this organization is on the right track.It will take a hell of a lot more than this.
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What’s this “counting beans” BS? The Jets under Tanny have been as active, if not the most active, team in free agency since he’s gotten the job. And, several times, he acquired the top UFA to fill a need, like Faneca for Clarke or Pace for Hobson. You are just not being fair.
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Not getting into it again.I posted a thousand posts on the subject of T and I am finished with it. I am just looking forward to a solid offseason.
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Rodgers throws to Jennings, Nelson, and Finley, among others.
Brady throws to Welker, Gronkowski, and Hernandez, among others.
Brees throws to Colston, Graham, and Sproles, among others.
Eli throws to Nicks, Cruz, and Manningham (possibly the best WR set in the NFL), among others.
I get what you’re saying, but no one does it all by themselves.
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Madbacker #57 says:
this was Woody listening to his buddy Parcells, the only man who supports Sparano. Hired him in Dallas then hired him and Ireland in Miami then had to convince ross not to fire them last year. Also doesn’t have a winning record but yup he will turn the everything around
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Did you ever have a girlfriend that you wished would disappear and when she did and you hooked up with your next, you said what was I thinking? That happened to me a couple of times when I was a pup, lol.
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Cam Cameron was a terrible HC, but has been a great OC for the Ravens. Remember, Sparano’s first season was great. Then, he was saddled with a bad QB and an aging RB corps. He’ll have better personnel with the Jets.
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Cam was also very good as the OC in San Diego for 4 years prior to Miami. Sparano was Offensive line coach & Assistant head coach in dallas and called plays in 2006, then gave up those duties to Garrett and in 06 they went 9 – 7. In Miami they were 11 – 5, 7 – 9, 7 – 9, 6 -10. IF he was coming in as our Oline coach it would be a great move, but as the OC it is questionable as he has never been an OC and his record is questionable.
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His love for running the ball definitely fits with Rex because if i recall correctly when rex first came in he wanted to bring in Hue Jackson but stayed with Shot, Hue also favored running the ball. My dream would be to pair the two with Hue as the OC and Sparano as the Oline coach.
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As I mentioned, I googled his career and nothing stands out. If he is just a conservative pound the ball type, we need a top Defense and solid oline with slasher who can break some, otherwise we will stall again. I hope he incorporates a passing game for balance. We will see.To me its just a lateral move but sometimes a breath of freash air is all it takes. I am just ok with it as long as we go full throttle addressing our many needs.
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as you said ’85 bears and we should add the Ravens (XXXV)
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YUP.
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In his best year, Sparano’s 2008 Phins passed 491 times and rushed 448 times. Sounds like a good mix to me.
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Definitely.
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I’m willing to see wht develops & give Sparano a chance. When you troubleshoot a problem you replace one thing at a time. Out of Sanchez, Greene and the rest of the underachieving cast, Schotty was the obvious choice because he calls the plays.
I also wouldn’t worry about new plays for Mark to learn. If Sparano is good, he’ll simplify the O to maximize Mark’s strengths. He was never comfortable with all the pre-snap movements. It just wasn’t his thing. – Maybe it will improve his reads and reduce his mistakes. – It sure as hell couldn’t hurt!
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frustratedjetfan, good post. You are very level headed and bring up good points. I agree.
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Whatever. If it makes you guys happy, great. Question: Was anyone saying “wow, the Jets would be so much better if they had Tony Sparano at OC rather than Schotty” before yesterday? Whatever. Get the Oline fixed, some sill players and a pass rusher. And a safety.
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I think people just wanted a change. I saw a few comments regarding a lawn chair being more effective so, I’m sure people are thrilled about Sparano.
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We live in a society that always thinks its better on the other side. That is how we are wired. Lets hope in this case its true.
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joeyboy79, i think the way the O has been looking it can only go up!
Another positive from this is that we can finally see if Sanchez was being held back by the scheme he was in, or if its just…him.
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Tot says:
Now we will find out whether the problem was Sanchez or Schotty. Hopefully it was Schotty.
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I think it was the pieces around Sanchez and downgrades this season. How we address that will be the big one!
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I have to admit, I am a little excited by this development, but keeping it in proper perspective.
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He’s getting a lot of credit from this guy.
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Dobby says:
Change is always the best but the necessary thing…no matter the outcome Schotty HAD to go….We were stagnant offensively with him… Let’s see what Sparano brings
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Quinn says:
I understand the creaming of the pants over the Schotty “step down” but what about what we are getting in Sparano? He is a conservative caller, who loves to run the ball. What is going to happen with this QB!? Shouldn’t we be building and not hiding him? I wan’t to be ecstatic about who is coming in – not who is coming out. These guys are going to hide Sanchez.
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Well, you can look at the job he did with Pennington for his work in the passing game. I too don’t know much about him, but Pennington played really well for him after he left Schotty.
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Cip says:
THANKS to shotty for 2 awesome season. Best of luck to him on his next stop as a young coach in the league
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Dpaq says:
I really laugh at the ignorance of so many people. Am I concerned about Mark Sanchez? Yes. Does he still need to make a lot of progress? Yes, but let’s look at history. Better numbers across the board than Eli at the three year mark, has not had the same number 1 receiver for more than a season, jets had a very good oline years 1 and2, but not as good as the giants of 05-08 and has not had a Tiki Barber…
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vurtualife says:
Clearly Pennington will be hired as QB coach in short order..
Where did Sparano coach prior to Miami, and how did he fare?
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oline & ass. head coach in dallas then followed Parcells to Miami
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“Clearly Pennington will be hired as QB coach in short order..” Thats when I get estatic!I love Penny!
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runleon29 says:
Hooray, I think??
Schotty had to go and change was necessary, but doesn’t Sparano come off as a loser that Miami has been dying to dump for two years now?My only hope is that Sparano is more of the smashmouth, run first tough guy that fits Rex’s image of how he wants his team to look.
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At least there would be continuity then, which is big. Only when an identity is defined, can you then build it.
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Shotty wasnt too Shoddy! http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/jets/2012/01/brian-schottenheimer-informs-ny-jets-that-he-wont-be-back-as-offensive-coordinator-in-2
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Sparano is a really good coach who’s had crap luck. Adapts to his players’ strengths, that’s why he went to wildcat…best 2 weapons were Brown and Williams. Helped with Pennington’s resurgence. Players coach, strong disciplinarian…I always liked him, he was set up for failure once Parcells left…
We certainly have needs, but for offense all I think we need to do is get bray back, get one stud OL, find a quick pass receiving back to make a triumvirate and pound the rock…this will allow Sanchez to develop at a better rate and make him look better right away!
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That would definitely be a boost.
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I understand it’s easier said than done, but it is not asking for toooo much…FA should allow us to pick up a couple needs and we have all our draft picks right now….not making the playoffs this year was a blessing in disguise, it brought weaknesses to the surface AND it improved our draft value by 10 spots every round in a year that currently have ALL!…as a consequence, these picks hold more value should trader mike feel compelled to do so
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Sporanosaurus Rex says:
If this is some kind of April fools thing, I’m going to karate chop people in the neck!
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LOL
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He’s being hired as OL/run game coordinator. Not HC.
I guess Steve Spagnuolo, Josh McDaniels, Mike Tice, Tom Cable, Mike Nolan, Wade Phillips, etc etc are all terrible coordinator hires by their new teams as well? After all, those guys were even bigger losers as HC.
Stop imagining some knight in shining armor that’s going to turn us into the NO offense. This isn’t a video game.
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Kevino says:
I think Rex & Sparano are much closer philosophically than Rex ever was with Schotty. Going forward, I think we’ll resemble 2009 a lot more than we will 2011. Now all we need are the right pieces to get that rolling.
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Perfectly said.I agree 100%.
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Couldn’t agree. If Sanchez doesn’t show a lot of improvement, we will simplify the offense, and go back to a much more conservative approach. My biggest concern though is that Sanchez isn’t accurate enough to be a good game manager. For that reason, it wouldn’t surprise me to see the Jets bring in someone like Jason Campbell in case Sanchez struggles.
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*Couldn’t agree more
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Jets without Schotty > Jets with Schotty.
There is a god.
Find out what was wrong with Brick. Replace Hunter. Get some depth at O line. Add a FB who can block and catch the ball out of the backfield. Pick up Marques Colston or Dwayne Bowe, if they are available. Kick butt.
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Now you’re talking!
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elmoron says:
Wonder what this does to Tom Moore’s role.
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I guess Moore stays.
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Will it be Moore or less, I wonder?
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Marvel (we want Manning) says:
This only solves one of our many problems…..
Gotta start somewhere though…
Go Jets!!!!!!
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We’ll find out if Conner is for real because Sparano runs a lot of I formation. If you like ground and pound, Sparano is your man.
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In todays nfl, it is a pass happy league. All the regulations favor the qb and wrs for the passing game. It is not like years back when ground and pound won the big one. Today only if you have a TOP running game and an 85 bears D can you make it over the hump. We need a primary running game no doubt, but some balance with some pinpoint and downfield passing to go far.
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We could debate this all day long, but since 2000, teams like the Ravens, Bucs, Steelers and 2001 Pats all won with primarily run offenses. I’m not saying the Jets should run more than pass, but it has to be closer to 50-50 to complement the Jets D. Like Buttle says “you pass to score, you run to win.”
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Agree,balance.
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I like a FB who has some pass catching ability. Nobody covers a FB. Although, a pure blocking FB (or TE) can be effective, I believe all of your offensive weapons should be dangerous.
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But, hopefully not dangerous to your own team
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boozer says:
I read that Sparano and Todd Haley were thinking about joining as a team.
One for running and one for passing.
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Smh.. Just for that… I’m going negative all week.
Until next time moderation… Goodnight
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Jeremy Squirley says:
The lack of deep balls thrown was from bad play calling, non creative routes, and everyone knew what we were doing. Sanchez def had a little to do with it too.
Every team knew when Sanchez wanted to Go to Keller and his production showed.
Scamtonio killed all of Sanchez confidence late in the season.
The Miami Players played hard for Sparano. I like this pick up.
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bernie says:
I live in south florida and can tell you Sparano is as hated here as Schottenheimer is up there – and for the same reasons. He is conservative to a fault. This move makes very little sense to me. But then again, that is the case with most of Tannenbaum’s decisions.
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There goes the “woody” again!
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One team’s trash is another’s treasure.
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I hope we dont burry it though.
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The future is blurry, but I’m hopeful.
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There are a number of reasons I like the Jets brining in Sparano.
1) We will have an offensive identity. Rex always envisioned a smash mouth football team, but I don’t feel like Schotty always felt the same way. We will run a much more simple offense, hopefully with better results.
2) We are going to run the ball a lot more. Sparano is a conservative play caller. He will not let Sanchez throw the ball 50+ times. He will play to the teams strengths.
3) Our TE’s should become a much bigger part of our passing game. Sparano is a former TE coach, and used a lot of duel-TE sets when he was in Dallas. We should see a lot of Keller and Cumberland this year.
4) He will bring back the wildcat. The wildcat was a successful part of our offense, and for whatever reason, Schotty stopped using it for nearly the entire season. I expect to see a good amount of Kerley this year.
5) He will have a much more disciplined offense. We saw way too many penalties this year. Sparano is a disciplinarian, who won’t allow that to happen.
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Jets-Fan-4-Life says:
Well if we are going to run more, I hope LT chooses to come back for 1 more run!
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Browning's Nagle says:
I’m very happy Schitty’s gone, but at the same time I really don’t get why some of you are so excited about the Sparano hire? I’m not saying he won’t succeed, but he’s never been an OC before, and he was a lackluster HC… so there’s really no track record to be excited about? So, what am I missing?
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Your first sentence answers your last.
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The hope is that as a former TE and OL coach and assistant coach that called the offensive plays, he will have more of a run first philosophy that is in tune with Rex, takes pressure off of Sanchez and complements the defense. Also, a former TE coach might be able to run a 2 TE offense that would suit Sanchez better and follow the trend of using the TE as a potent pass weapon.
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Teams will still have most of their D up front to dare Sanchez to beat them through the air. Sanchez will still need a competent fastball downfield to keep them honest and losen them up. There will be a lot of traffic up front if he cant zing a few and our 29th yds/carry run game will need a miraculous change to be effective.
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Is Tony Sparano a good choice, and couldn’t the team go after someone who might be better?
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There are alot of possible choices the team can go after. Right now it is Sparano based on a Chris Mortensen report, although Mortensen does have a long history of being wrong on reports. It seems to make sense on paper, but we won’t know for sure until the team offically announces.
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reality jet fan says:
rex doesnt want anyone who could take his job
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jets0906 says:
Hey. Every dingle person here complained at least once about a lack of commitment to the run. Well guess what? That’s over
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Lol at some people here. Win a division. Championship with the pats in ur division… not the cowgirls…then talk
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JUST MADE MY MORNING!
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daleinct says:
We just got better…great day
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Mike Battle says:
Don’t get too excited, read the article in the Daily News this morning, i think the wheels be fallin off. looks like a lot of players think Sanchez is the problem.
Whether they are right or wrong about him is not the issue, the fact that they are talking to the news papers about his mental toughness, lack of leadership etc is the real problem. i don’t remember any articles like this about any other supposed “franchise” QB’s.How long before Shotty leaves and then gives his true opinion of our QB, that should be interesting
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Tom in Raleigh says:
If Sanchez needs to go that will become evident soon enough. Move number one was getting rid of Schotty. Move number two will be Sanchez if he cannot perform.
Personally, I think he will thrive if the system is easier, plays to his strengths (run and then play action) and he has time.
Also, only if the Jets brain trust is still on board with Sanchez. We’ll see. No way of knowing who the players in the article were.
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greg sec 336 no more says:
“i don’t remember any articles like this about any other supposed “franchise” QB’s.”
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Waking up to sparano? Big deal
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Bent says: ALL – Name calling and personal attacks are not appropriate here and we will block/moderate anyone who continues to do so.
That includes implying that another poster doesn’t know what they’re talking about (especially if you do that to one of our most knowledgeable posters when you’re a Giants fan that doesn’t realize Kevin Kilbride was promoted from QB coach to OC in 2007).
Apologies to anyone whose comments were automatically blocked overnight by our spam filter.
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Malthe says:
You’re probably the guy who has studied the offense and the playcalling of the Jets most diligently. Do you think this is a good move?
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Bent says:
I think the time was right for a change. Sparano AND Haley would be quite a coup.
I still think we’re overrating our personnel and the execution isn’t going to suddenly become perfect overnight, but hopefully this will get things going in the right direction.
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Thanks for the reply!
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Bent, what do u think of daily news article?
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Bent says:
Only just read it. There’s no smoke without fire and obviously the locker room is in bit of a mess, but I would hope not irreparably so.
The Dickensian Aspect is pretty significant and NYDN has a habit of collecting dubious quotes from anonymous sources dating back to Cimini’s days (I still, to this day, don’t believe that someone said of Chad Pennington “He’s like an egg back there”).
The fact Mangold publicly rubbished the report makes me more confident it has been exagerrated by someone for whatever reason. The locker room was fine over the first couple of years under Rex, so I’d hope that it will be next year, even if you write this year off as a failure on that front.
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david i says:
If this is true, I have to believe a major factor in this hiring is Sporano’s no nonsense approach. He’s a disciplinarian. Someone who will not take crap from a dysfunctional bunch of underachieving pro football players. He’s the antithesis or the anti-Rex! Funny thing is, with his head coaching experience, Rex will give him the reigns with a single goal…Ground and Pound! Then Rex will go settle in on D with Pettine and hopefully figure out how to generate pressure and cover TEs.
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cgrec says:
Im THRILLED that Schotty is gone, but im not so sure about Sparano.
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They must want peyton really bad
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Scouse Jet says:
I guess, with 2 years left on his contract, and a new OC, Mark will have a 1 year audition this year to proove that he can be the franchise QB going forward. It’s the big year for him.
Some article by Manish though, I know the papers pulish thew most ‘interesting’ quotes, but wow!
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/ny-jets-players-bash-mark-sanchez-peyton-manning-gm-mike-tannenbaum-trade-young-quarterback-article-1.1004395?pgno=2-
My cold fingers make me type as if I’m illiterate, sorry
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Wow, The last paragraph is unreal on that link!
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If its a healthy Manning, id do it to, and i’m a Sanchez supporter.
You’d have to be dumb to not want a healthy Manning for 3 years.
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Also, the get the ball to the “playmaker” line, we all know who that is. Holmes.
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It seems to be everyones fault except the guys who created this mess rex and tanny
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GIANTMARINE says:
While I hate your organization, Im happy for you Jet fans. Snotty truly was a terrible terrible offensive coordinator. Think you guys can convince him to take Kevin Killdrive with you?
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Since shottie resigned he does not qualify for
unemployment benefits.lol good luck shottie sorry for being jerks but you did last 6 years.In NY I have to give you that much.-
Lam Jones says:
not necessarily true… if Schotty and the Jets both tell the state that he resigned ahead of termination (i.e. the truth) he gets his 4 bills a week!
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There are much bigger problems then shotty
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Ya think? I have said it a million times,shotty was a drop of water in the vast sea!
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totally disagree. schotty cost us the game vs the gmen. we’re in the playoffs if not for that game alone. just need a couple of players on o now and i think we can be at least average on that side of the ball. an average offense with our defense makes us a playoff team easily.
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please!
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we beat flipper, gmen, and broncos if our offense was just average. that gives us 11 wins. we may have even beat the pats in the game in foxborough. i just dont understand how you cannot agree with that.
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Do you really think we looked like a legit playoff team this year?
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absolutely not because of the incompetent offense. that’s my point.the d wasnt as good as the first 2 years under rex, but it was still good enough. we had enough talent to be in the playoffs imho. the offense held the team back and a big reason for it was schotty.
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This is interesting…
22% of the 287 comments on this post are from one person.
Some are in favor of this move, some mock it’s importance, so are hard to determine the reason for the post.
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Think about it, Sparano? Can you really look in mirror and say this was a good move? Now an entire offense will have to be learned for an ex coach whos record was .475 and his offense declined every year he was in charge! He was run out of Miami and their fans hated him more than we hate Shotty!I am done with this nonsense!
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To be fair, Mike Tannenbaum and his staff didn’t google him at 2am to determine his qualifications.
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ssx tricky says:
LOL
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mikebe1 says:
Idk if I like sparano I wonder y are they so inlove with him. But…. I had a dream we traded tone the the raiders maybe that can happen they love hot heads out there
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Is it at all possible that the Sporano thing is just a rumor and not official. I hope so. The Jets media just released the statement about BS but no mention of anything else, and everything I can find is mostly speculation based on previous rumors.
I am glad we moved past Schottenheimer since, forgetting this year when personnel wasn’t great, he was so inconsistent in years past, and often too conservative, but Sparano is known for his strategy to play it safe and settle for field goals. This will only work if we get ourselves a monster RB and get a quality RT — two things I don’t know we can afford since we need that safety and LB and depth.
I know Daboll was the OC in Miami and Henning before him — both conservative game callers. But Sporano picked them for that reason and coached that way himself as a coordinator.
IF they do go this direction, I hope it also means they sign Henne as a backup to Sanchez as I’ve been wanting all along, and perhaps Pennington is the QB coach and eventual OC if Sporano finds himself a HC job in the next few years (or sucks! haha)
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Jets interviewing Todd Haley today :) Teaming him & Sparano as asst. HC and OC looks amazing on paper…. However, they both have hot heads. I want this to happen, but only if they can co-exist. Can we FF time real fast to see if it will work out before making this hire?
I have a feeling it would so my gut says GOGOGO tanny
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NY Daily New article today on Sanchez not good.
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Things are going to hell in a handbasket in a hurry. According to the article, some of his own players threw him under the bus. This is turning into a freak show!
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Brendan says:
No everyone stop crying. Stop questioning Rex. Stop questioning Woody’s desire to win. Stop questioning Tanny’s balls. Just, stop.
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M-E-S-S, MESS MESS MESS!
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Who will be scapegoat #3? It is just a matter of time before the whole organization at the top level gets gutted! This season, no one to hide behind. This has all turned into a sad circus and management must take the blame!
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will says:
Sanchez is now on the hot seat. This is a make or break year for him. No more excuses for him.
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The most interesting angle about that Daily News article by Mehta, is that the more dysfunctional this organization looks (Cimini calls it the Flohram Park Zoo) the less of a chance that Manning actually comes to the Jets.
The perception around the league is that Ryan didn’t have control of the locker room. The best receiver on the team quit with the season on the line, and guys were getting into a fight in the huddle during a game.
Now if you are Peyton Manning, do you want to come here or what?!!!!!
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Thats what scares me about Sparano coming here. He must be desperate with all that is going on here and now a qb controversy to boot.It is not the most stable atmosphere.
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Jimbo says:
Thought everyone might want to see what the Phins fans are posting about this news (these are literally the top three comments and then I just stopped reading… looks like they feel the same way about him as we do about Schotty!)
1. Stop the presses we have found ONE organizatio EVEN DUMMER than the Fins Spare Ano as OC what a freaking joke IT could not happen to a better team The Jests are headed for destruction Rejoice Fin Fans!!!
2. I’m soo happy for the Jets.. Haahaahaa now the Jets will be my least favorite team {}
3. Tony Sparano, Offensive Coordinator…..talk about your oxymorons.
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Here are the positives and negatives on the Sparano move, who I know very well.
Positives:
1. Works extremely hard. His work ethic in Miami was legendary.
2. Commands respect. His Miami teams were always in line.
3. Excellent motivator. His Miami teams always played hard, that’s how they finished the year 6-3 after starting 0-7.
4. Don’t think he will be in charge of discipline, but trust me, he won’t take crap from Santonio.
5. He obviously knows Miami’s personnel very well.Negatives:
1. He is not as smart or creative as Shotty was. He is not as intelligent.
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The shotty move had to happen, now we can relax a bit. Besides all the over-complicated and ill-advised playcalling, what really bothered me about shotty (as pointed out by Bent many times in BGA) was that the players’ execution was consistently a problem. If one guy drops a pass and you lose the game, blame that guy. If the team as a whole continually under-executes, blame the coaches.
As for Sporano, I think it’d be an interesting move, especially if they can get Haley as well. I, for one, never bought the ‘too many cooks ruin the meal’ excuse for the Jets under-performing offense, because they’ve been consistently inconsistent during all of shotty’s 6 years with the team, regardless of HC, QB and players in general.
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According to the article i can ow see why maybe santonio was pissed about going to extra sanchez meetings when it looks like sanchez himself is lazy. If the article is half true then sanchez is a huge baby and thats what usually happens with athletes that are given everything there whole lifes.
The jets messed up big time when they drafted sanchez. I had said from the beginning that there should have been a qb competition right from the start to push sanchez. Instead the jets made him the starting qb right away. That was a huge mistake. They needed to make sanchez fight for his job to realize how much work it takes to be a qb n the nfl.
Also during hard knocks you could see a little of that childish attitude coming out of sanchez when namath was trying to give him some pointers on being a better qb. I think the jets best option is to trade him, he obviously cant handle the pressure of the big city. He needs a fresh start in a less media driven location. I dont think manning would come here but there is a few qbs in fa we can sign. My guy is still campbell.
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JimWH says:
Tony Sparano comes to NJ. Which way to the Bada Bing club?
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Real Jet fan says:
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
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johnl says:
does pennington follow??????????????
Rich 
OMFG YES!! This made my YEAR!