Greene Receives Bonus
USATODAY is reporting that Jets RB Shonn Greene has received a $50,000 escalator for the final year of his rookie contract.
Shonn Greene received a $50,000 escalator for the final year of his rookie contract. The escalator will bring Greene’s 2012 salary to $615,000, which is among the lowest for a starting NFL running back. Coming off a season that saw him set career highs, the Jets will likely wait until next offseason to contact Greene’s representatives about a new deal.
105 Responses to Greene Receives Bonus
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njdpelc says:
Yeah I couldn’t help but fear he wasn’t gonna get back up some times. Especially right after the injury.
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joeyboy79 says:
I thought the same thing thats why I am not confident as him being our primary. Even when healthy ,he is pedestrian. If we are going to rely on a ground game,I think we need an upgrade from Green. Sure a team that has a potent passing game he would suffice, but if that our bread and butter will be the run game, I am not sure if he will fit the bill.
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I think Greene is a good back. He’s not an AP but he’s a steal for his price and he is always running hard.
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Green has been hurt almost every season. I am swinging putting RB as a need. Too risky for me. We are relying on a ground game this season as our primary offensive identity. JM is a question mark along with Powell. I dont want to roll the dice on that.
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Every running back is hurt every season. Haha. Name one who didn’t miss any time. Greene didn’t even miss time though which is better off than Jacobs or Bradshaw or LT or mendenhall or forte or Jackson. Any team that runs a lot is gonna get hurt.
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His style is reckless and every year he gets hurt where the others might have gotten hurt but it was one season.That doesnt show a predisposition like it does with Green.
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The sport of football is reckless. haha. Every defensive player is doing the same thing Greene does and you’re not worried about them getting hurt cause you know it IS gonna happen. He plays through the pain though. Every player on every team is hurt by the end of the season. Well maybe except for kickers. haha. Greene hasn’t missed a game since he started getting playing time.
AP is hurt every year. McFadden is hurt every year. They miss time and Greene doesn’t That’s what really matters.
If you look at it like other positions there are people who are hurt more than him but people don’t notice. David Harris is constantly getting hurt every season. He missed the second half of the AFC game that Greene missed too. We just need depth and we have Depth at the RB position.
Drafting someone else won’t help cause you don’t know what you’ll get with a rookie so we won’t be better off than where we are now and we don’t have the money to be spending on a major free agent at RB. I think what we have now is good at the RB position.
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You’re both right about Greene. He’s was a steal at the first pick of the third round. However, Greene’s durability and play are not good enough to justify him being a feature back.
Greene needs to split carries with another punishing back, as well as a change-of-pace speedster, like McKnight or TD Artist Formerly Known As LT. Ground-n-Pound!!!
And, yes even the kid from Bama, Trent Richardson, can’t help, if we don’t block. Run blocking’s not D’Brick’s strength, and suck on the right side too.
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Slausson even had a sub year run blocking. It adds up that we finished #29 in the run game. You are right Barbella, it all starts with line. Either you have a solid line and an average running back which will make your running game good, or a subpar line but a top running back and you can also have a good running game. The way I see it now, is we have a sub par line and an average back, uh oh!
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Well said, Joey.
The good news is we’re only one stud running back, like Trent Richardson, away from an awesome backfield and one decent OT (and Blocking TE) from a solid offensive line.
With the #16 pick, Mr T will need to trade up to grab whichever falls from the top five, top ten.
Should be interesting!
Even more news! We have so many needs, we don’t need to draft a Pass Rusher, Wide Receiver, Safety, Inside Linebacker. We can finally afford to draft best player available – lol.
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… I meant even more (good) news!
I stocked up on sarcasm to get me through the long cold offseason. Luckily, I caught Linsanity. Go Knicks!
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Johnny Reefer says:
as i said before and i will say again.
Peterson was hurt last year
Foster was hurt
CJ was hurtThats the 3 best, who have been pretty banged up.
Greene was never used right, we ran LT to much. 20-25 carries a game. Not 15.
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Green has been hurt every year though.His style is just to bash into people which makes it more dnagerous. He barely made it to the finish line last season! Everytime he got up from a tackle I thought he would be going out of the game. I guess you are a gambler. I would too, if we had depth and our running game wasnt our primary offensive philosophy this season. Its just my opinion.
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btw, powell was a rookie, way to early to judge him, didn’t get many carries to get a ryhtm either and JM hasn’t been used as a back much anyways.
When he did? 150yards.
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Tom in Raleigh says:
Powell was a rookie…who had no offseason. Can’t judge him at all. Additionally, he was a rookie, with no offseason who had to absorb an overly complicated system.
With that said, I beleive that it is possible that Greene is not the guy, but have seen enough not to give up hope. I would feel comfortable going into the season with our RB corps. Like on Sanchez, the jury is out. Let’s see the new offensive scheme and how our guys perform in it.
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The funny thing is, Mark Sanchez only has enough time to throw to running backs and tight ends.
Keller can’t block. Greene can’t catch; and Jets dropped LaDainian. So, guys like Powell and McKnight will need to step up.
If our line improves, it will be good to see more Kerley in the slot. Hopefully, we can stretch the field with vertical threat through the draft.
It will be good to see what Cumberland and Patrick Turner can do?
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Like I said, too risky for a season that will DEPEND on a primary ground game.
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For Sanchez the ground game is imperative. With Green being injury prone and the other unproven two,I would pick up a solid RB. Its just too important. Everything will hinge off our running game. Even when healthy, Green didnt impress me. He is just a north south runner whose style is reckless and dangerous.Like I said, Sparano will make the call but it wouldnt surprise me at all if we went after a RB.
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James says:
If Polk falls to the 2nd round i would like to see the jets trade up to get him to compliment greene. That would be a great pairing
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Marcus says:
Polk was terrible in the senior bowl. No way we’d need to trade up from our second rounder to get him. He could be around for our third round selection, at this point.
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neauone says:
forget Polk, Wilson is the RB the Jets have to target. IMHO he’s the best in the draft.
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I assume you’re excluding Richardson.
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#1defense says:
Correction: If Polk falls to the 3rd.
In the second we might be able to get Wilson from Boise State.
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Do you mean Doug Martin? David Wilson is from VTech
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We need some type of insurance.
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juunit says:
Greene’s got a big year coming up for him, it’s proving time. I know he’s had stuff holding back, but eventually that stops mattering and he just has to be more productive. Another less than stellar year from Greene and I can easily see the whole running game getting a makeover. He doesn’t do the intangibles (catching, blocking) well enough to have 60 yard games every week.
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mucky moose says:
This is 2012. The running game as any teams bread and butter is a recipe for failure.
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Not if the qb thrives off of play action and the team has a top defense. Of course balance is important and Sanchez will have to take some shots downfield, but with the proper pieces and again a top running game,teams will have to play the run and it should open up the passing game. I just meant that his success depends on a solid running game not that its the only weapon.
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Brooklyn Dude says:
Maybe the RB’s would benefit from a QB who can throw the ball down the field too.
I don’t think anybody would mind seeing a true elite Curtis Martin type of running back, but priorities dictate our other needs first.
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Thats not good enough though for a team that will rely on a run game. No run game will make it even harder for the passing game. A solid RB and a blocking versatile TE and we are in business!
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You better tell you theory to Sparano tommy, lol.
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That is called a balanced attack, not ground and pound.
Ground and pound is just a catch phrase. Any team that relies on it is doomed.
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I disagree. When every defense in the league is gearing up and building to defend the pass, going for a good running game, with a strong play action passing game (which happens to be one thing that Sanchez does very well) is ahead of the curve and just what a forward thinking team should be doing.
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Never really thought of it that way. Very good point.
Only thing though is the rules are designed to have passing easier than running.
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True, they are designed to help passing games, but they are not designed to hurt running games.
Think about all those Superbowls that the NFC won in the 80′s. I think they were a direct result of the drafting of the ’83 QBs…all into the AFC. Defenses got smaller to compete for or divisions. On this blog, we’ve all been saying that we need to get quicker on D, better safeties and OLBs that can cover.
Running is the way to go IMO.
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Exactly. If Sanchez has a strong run game, the rest will follow. No run game, teams will defend and make it tough for him to pass.
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If our run game is solid, teams will have to play that and Sanchez will have less secondary running around the field to defend his throws. If we cant run ,teams will have defenders all over the place and with Sanchez still developing his accuracy, it is a recipe for disaster. Also he feeds off of play action which the prerequisite is a run game. Sanchez and the offense go as does the run game. For gun slingers like Eli and Rodgers they can get away withy a less than stellar run game but Sanchez cant.
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Look at Sanchez the first two years when he had a top run game and this season with a #29 run game! It all is about the run game for Sanchez and the passing will follow.
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sanchez’s numbers this year were better than his first 2 years…his numbers his first year were awful…and not much better his second year
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GregNJ says:
We have a lot of pieces to pick for this new season. RBs, *WRS, *Oline, *Safeties, *everydown OLBs, Dline, not in that order; however, the ones stared are the biggest priority whether it be through the draft or free agency.
Shonn Greene isn’t durable, but he’s a hell of a back to deal with. If we can somehow manage to get a nice sized back that can do everything(pass pro, catch, run east/west to go along with his straight-line speed) that would be great. However, those can be hard to come by after the 3rd round. We really need to do our homework on every player in COLLEGE. We really need to find those gems late that can help us. I also don’t mind the philosophy of grabbing a QB late to see if can develop into something, but maybe we should try and pick him a little sooner rather then the last round. Just saying, so we can get some COMPETITION(young blood, with an edge for competitiveness) in camp.
Biggest need in my opinion whether it be the draft or free agency is the DEEP THREAT we will need to create the space underneath for HOLMES. That is a must or we go with a stud Safety or OLB, someone along the line of Terrell Suggs. If that type of player isn’t there, then best play-maker available for us is the way to go in the 1st round. Whether it be a RB, WR, S or OLB, either side of the ball works as long as it’s one of those 4 positions.
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We can develop OLine and not pull a Vlad Ducasse on ourselves again, picking early talent to develop. You go for the guaranteed stuff the first 2 rds. I feel if it ain’t guaranteed then don’t reach. That’s why there are coaches to develop the raw talent from the later rounds. OLine is very teachable and certain schemes dictate certain teachings.
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Can it be taught in time for the first game of the season.
Otherwise Sanchez might be looking at the Injured Reserve list, and then which RB is going to be able to run the ball.
When the OL had Woody, it was a strong unit that could ground and pound, and convert on third down.
It seems like such an obvious area that could improve multiple other players on the team.And since there don’t appear to be any FA’s that would be considered an upgrade, it is urgent that it be addressed early in the draft.
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Wolf says:
Jet’s top priorities this season should be Linebacker, Safety, Tight End and Wide Receiver. Fixing those areas will greatly improve our football team.
We need to see what McKnight & Powell can do for us before we invest in another running back.
Luckily, this is a deep Free Agent Safety & Receiver Class.
Tight End, Linebacker should and will be addressed through the draft.
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Finding out if they stack up is a gamble when a running game is essential this season, in my opinion. It is too important.
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Why is nobody talking about Dwayne Allen? We need a versatile TE, who can help Hunter block. THIS IS THE GUY. I’d drop a first on him, and go after linebackers in the later rounds.
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Because you can get a quality TE in later rounds. This is actually a rather deep TE class.
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Actually it isn’t. Allen is an exceptional talent, far and away the best TE available in the draft.
This solves some major problems;
1.) Improves our passing attack. Allen is a big target, solid route runner and has great hands.
2.) Improves our offensive line. Sparano will use Allen to shore up the right side of our offensive line.
3.) Allows the Jets to trade Keller, who has hit his ceiling and will be nothing more than a pass catching TE that is less athletic than Gronk & Hernandez, has mental lapses and drops passes.
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Brendan says:
You just described Jeff Cumberland (if he’s healthy).
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If he’s healthy.
So why not have two TE’s that can stretch the field and block? This will help Sparano implement his offensive scheme effectively.
And what have you seen from Cumberland that would suggest to you that he is capable of playing at Allen’s level? I do not remember Cumby being highly regarded coming out of college as Allen is.
My point here is that we are one complete TE away from having the players Sparano needs to implement his offense. Why not go after Allen and keep pace with our division rivals?
The LB class is way deeper than the TE class this year.
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Because that’s a luxury, when you have necessities elsewhere on the team.
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If the defense plays anywhere near the level of the past three seasons, they will be fine.
Our problem has been putting together offense, but drafting a TE who can bolster the line and stretch the field ( ala Gronk & Hern ) is a luxury? I fail to see that.
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Hernandez doesn’t bolster the line, he just stretches the field.
Guys like Gronk are rare, and expecting anyone to come out of the draft and be Gronk is setting yourself up for a letdown.
You can get a cheap blocking TE, or they can just go back to using Turner as the extra blocker if they want. I’d rather not waste a high pick on a position that currently has Keller and Cumberland ahead of that pick on the draft chart.
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I know Hern doesn’t necessarily bolster the line, but he’s a competent blocker.
Turner/Mulligan missed their fair shares of assignments this season.
We need a safety, a pass rusher and a WR. If we can get a 3rd for Keller and trade down for Allen, we would be in a position to still fill those needs through the draft. And I’m not even considering free agency.
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Turner was on IR since preseason…
Are you confusing him with Hunter? Because I make that mistake frequently.
I just don’t see the logic in upgrade TE when all that’s missing from the position is competent blocking, not receiving. With Cumby & Keller you have two legitimate receiving threats. If you need a 3rd blocking specialist, you can find that for a lot cheaper than an early first or second round selection.
I also feel that TEs should never be taken high in the draft. They’re so under-utilized in college, you can find guys with great hands who can block in the 3-5 rounds and they can usually be very productive.
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Bent says: I’m not sure Hern is a “competent blocker”. I’d rate him basically on a par with Keller. Just by their usage rates you can see that the Jets use Keller as an in-line blocker much more often (281 snaps to 157) which tells you something.
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Bent says:
Wolf – looking at the splits, that’s correct, so maybe their confidence in his blocking is growing. However his run blocking grades got worse as his workload as an inline blocker increased.
That 281-157 stat from earlier INCLUDES those playoff reps and based on PFF run blocking grades, if you do a comparison of blocking grade divided by inline blocking reps, Keller’s grades (in the bottom ten in the NFL) work out slightly better than Hernandez’s.
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There’s a good bit of discussion about who the best TE in the class is between him, Fleener, and Orson Charles (Georgia) [Wes Bunting, for one, is really high on him]
Between those three players, that’s a lot of elite depth at the position.
I’m a big fan of a 5th rounder on George Bryan, NC State.
Beyond that, nobody drafts a TE with #16. Nobody.
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Brendan,
Actually, I thought you were referring to Patrick Turner, who was asked to come in a block this season.
You do not take TE with the 16th pick, which is why I have been suggesting trading down in the draft and acquiring more picks.
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Ah, yeah, I probably should have specified. My bad.
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From PFF
“Hernandez started off as another of the new breed of receiving tight ends (a big receiver that can’t really block), and saw much of his time split out wide or simply running routes from his tight end spot rather than contributing with any blocking. Since then, however, he has morphed into a legitimate hybrid of three positions, and in this piece we’re looking at examples of how Hernandez can hurt teams three different ways.”
Although in-line blocking is definitely not his strong suit, it is his versatility that sets him apart. He can line up all over the field, and is not asked to block a lot as a result.
Monson writes “Aaron Hernandez lines up as a traditional in-line tight end just 29% of the time.”
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Yeah, I read that article too.
None of the three ways he impacted a game that they discuss were via blocking, though. Lined up in tight, lined up out wide, and running the ball.
Finding a true duel-threat TE is not easy, but those guys tend to never come from the same place. 1st round, last round, UDFA, they all produce these duel-threat TEs because they’re almost always under utilized in college. Using an early pick on a TE just doesn’t make sense to me.
Hernandez was a 4th rounder, right in my 3-5 round range that I like taking TEs at.
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They mention his blocking.
“Hernandez, for his part, follows his blocks well, but then simply outruns the Baltimore linebackers to the hole and gains 9 yards before he can be brought down by safety Bernard Pollard coming up to make the tackle.”
“Since they are accurate in believing that Hernandez is not a capable in-line blocker from the tight end spot, it was a sound strategy that the Patriots couldn’t counter simply by using him more as a blocking tight end in the run game.”
I think Allen was extremely under-utilized at Clemson. This is a deep draft. If we can trade out of the first and grab two second rounders while still drafting Allen, I’d do it.
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Neither of those quotes endorse him as a blocker…
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Bent says:
That’s saying how he performed as a ball carrier (remember, when he lined up at halfback?) and how this was an effective way to overcome his inability to block, unless I’m missing something.
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You’re right, I misread.
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Bent, I believe Hern was asked to block a lot more as the season wore on, and in the playoffs.
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A tight end in the 1st round. you are kidding right. 3-4 pass rushers are hard to come by. The Jets need to get Upshaw. Trade up if needed.
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Cip says:
Haha! Does anyone else lose the concept of money when it comes to sports. Like I read his bonus and was just like “eh, nice whatever” but when you look at it it’s like “50k?!” That’s like me doubling my salary if I got that bonus haha
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Yea, I’d do a lot of things for 50k.
Including getting crushed by 300 pound barbarians every Sunday.
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I don’t get why people keep saying Greene isn’t durable? LT missed more time this year than him and he wasn’t the full time starter. So many more running backs(and other positions) miss a lot more time than him. Just because he gets hurt doesn’t mean he’s not durable. He plays through it and plays well too.
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jerk says:
I’m so fed up with everyone blowing this 8-8 season out of proporton. Ive heard different people talk about almost every player when talking about who to cut. Revis and Mangold are the only jets getting a pass, which is well deserved. I think everyones taking all the wroklng things from the season. Ive heard people say we have to blow up the rostet and completely new, all of you that are thinking this way are crazy and should be ashamed to be a jet fan and really have to m
Yore realistic and be a better judge of what’s going on. Hunter needs to be gone or demoted to a back up. Next on Offense we need to replace plax with a guy whom has size, ability to command a double team sometimes to free up tone. Running backs are fine and.deserve a season to show what they can do, I wouldn’t mind Limichael James in the 4th round and the rest of the o line should get this season to show what they got. Lastly, Mark also shouldn’t be given up on especially since he has.improved statistically when all the odds and everything around him last season was set up for.failure. With a new cooridinator playing to his strengths, getting his confidence back, working on the little things he messes up on, and ironing out.the issues with tone he will have a successful season. On the d side of the ball 2 safeties who can cover and.a pass rusher should make us a top 3 defense.-
Good post, while we have many needs , we do have a solid core. The only thing I differ with is the RB scenario. I dont want to wait to find out and have a tanked season. With Green and his propensity for injuries and JM/BP not proven it is too risky. Sure if Sanchez was a passing qb I would take the risk, but man, he needs a solid run game!Everything he does well starts from that just compare when he had a top run game and last season with it ranked #29. The passing results are much better when he had a top run game. It opens up the passing game.This has been shown. He is more inaccurate when defense doesnt respect the run game and have most of the D in coverage.
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Yes, but we have invested draft picks into these players and we need to give Powell a full off season before we cast him aside. The Jets really like the kid coming out of the draft, let’s see what these kids can do for us.
Running backs come a dime a dozen. Chances are if McKnight and Powell struggle, we will be able to sign an adequate back-up to spell Greene.
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Good point, its all a gamble. The problem is latetly our gambles like the oline and some other moves havent worked out. I just think another option for a role of such importance as a rb, i would cover and not leave it up to we will see.We seen where that logic went with Hunter. We will just have to see what happens.
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Yeah, but you can’t have a proven at ever postion. Greene has proved he can get 1000 yards, even while only running 15 times a game, and a iffy O-line.
Sure up the Oline, give him 20-25 carries a game, give JM or Powell 10. To keep him refreshed. That’s 30/35 runs. About 22 to 26 passes, roll outs, play action, screens to JM. And we are the O we are built to be.
And will be good.
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The run and the pass all compliment one another but some qbs rely on each one in a different proportion based on their skill set.
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Scott pee says:
+1
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jetsetradio says:
go get that money next year
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Read this post!!!!!!!
http://www.ganggreennation.com/2012/2/12/2793754/same-old-jets-ii
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Because it’s another whiny article without
much substance?
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David says:
Melvin Ingram first round, MLB second round, WR (Braylon Edwards, or Robert Meachem), RT ( Jared Gaithers from Chargers), a blocking TE, Shaun Ellis, Jarret Johnson, LaRon Landry and Tyvon Jackson(If we dont resign leonhard) Resign Pouha, Westerman, and Maybin. They SHOULD be able to get that under the cap
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Bent says:
I’m afraid that’s unrealistic.
Seven veteran additions? I’d expect two or three, not including minimum level deals. Anything beyond that is going to be impossible to fit under the cap.
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I agree Bent, 2 or 3 key veteran moves would be great. 4 and we will be jumping for joy!
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who would want shaun ellis back?
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rusty sanchez says:
I’m not that worried about our rbs I feel like that position out of the rest is a spot where you can find a diamond in the rough… Our main goal this year is to be able to get more tds in the 1st qtr the last 2 seasons. We had trouble scoring in the 1st qtr but last season unlike the season before we weren’t able to comeback in the last minute
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Marvel says:
RB ?
Richardson in the 1st
Wilson in the 2nd
Or Chris Rainey in the 4thIf we get one of the above I’d be very happy.
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pete says:
either we make a big splash and get peyton, hopefully trade mark to seattle for a draft pick or we keep mark and get trent richardson. that offense for the next five years would be set. it would really help the jets out, they would slow the game down and wear down the opponents. greene t rich and mcknight, let powell develop for another year
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andres reyes says:
great runner tuff sob..i was thinking about that earlier today how we need another tuff griddy back to help him out..
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If the line blocks like it did at the end of the season, Greene will have a more productive year.
He’s at least a competent receiver (when Mark doesn’t fire lasers at him from 10 feet away), he hits the hole hard & fast, and if the line keeps him from getting hit in the backfield consistently, he’s a 4.0 yds/carry RB.
When you put your resources into other positions (O-line, QB, WR, CB, etc.) you have to sacrifice $ at other positions. Greene allows the Jets to do it at an important position. Hopefully he comes in with a 1,300 yard season next year and quiets most of his doubters. He’s absolutely capable, just a matter of him staying healthy and the line playing well.
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Bent says:
Right, someone above stated that it’s unacceptable for him to only average just over 60 yards per game (66 actually), but when you’re only getting 15 carries per game, what are you going to do?
Give him 20 carries a game and even if he only averages 3ypc on those plays, that’s over 80 yards per game and a 1,300 yard season.
As for his performance and that of the line, he was 51-157 over the first four games. An awful 3.1 ypc. However, it’s clear the line was struggling to gel and then suffered the loss of Mangold and Baxter’s struggles to pick up the system on the fly.
Once Mangold returned, he averaged 75 yards per game (extrapolates to a 1,200 yard season) and 4.4 ypc.
Further evidence that the line was directly responsible for Greene’s slow start comes from his yards before contact numbers. In those first four, he was being contacted on average after 0.8 yards past the line of scrimmage. Over the last 12, following Mangold’s return, it was 2.2 yards. Basically that accounts for the entire difference between his 3.1ypc average in the first four and 4.4ypc in the last 12 games, although the lower your ypc before contact, the less chance you have to build momentum and break a tackle, so the early season effects were particularly tough on him.
After Mangold’s return, other than the Denver game where he left after three plays, his lowest ypc was 3.9 in the last game. His performance over those last 12 – with Hunter and Slauson in the lineup, who they may look to upgrade from – was very good.
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Nicely illustrated.
Where does this injury prone stuff come from.
I just looked up his numbers,
and GP/ATT are 14/108, 15/185 and 16/253.Lets get that line fixed.
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I expect to have his best year in 2012. He will then sign a new contract with another team.
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levi says:
If he is the feature back on a grond and pound team he is gonna wanna stay. Now lets see how he holds up getting 25 carries a game. I cant wait for the season. I actually really like Greene his style is very entertaining.
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+1.
I love when he is “on” and he picks up 3 more yards running dudes over.
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Dude, what’s with the name? Job interviews coming up?
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Bent says:
Haha, I believe you nailed it.
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yup.
I’m sick working 3 part time jobs so I’m looking for a fully.
The place’s I’ve gotten first interviews for all drug test so i’m cleaning my system hard.
Luckily I’m 6’1 165 pounds so being that thin, I should burn it out rather quickly.
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God bless the construction industry’s unwillingness to cave to public demand for testing of its employees.
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lol lucky bastard!
damn TJB is holding out on hiring me! haha
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woah, bastard made it through?
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Bent says:
sPam doesn’t mind bastards.
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Greene will have a banner year then get a new contract some where else. He will go where the money is. He is not going to stay because of ground and pound because ground and pound is a joke, there is no such thing in 2012.
Well Greene showed toughness this year playing thru his rib injury. Which was a concern of mine. I would like to see the Jets get another bruiser to compliment him, Im not sure Powell can be that guy. Then they got Joe$ for the change of pace/3rd down back. See how Sparano can use Greene this year will tell them whether he gets a new contract or not.